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« Reply #5295 on: Friday, March 15, 2019, 15:17:19 »

Last night we saw the farce of a government offering a free vote on a key part of the whole purpose of this government for fear that their own cabinet would defy the party whip. And a government minister vote against the government's motion just minutes after he had sat down from delivering a speech in favour of that motion on behalf of the government he doesn't agree with. This is not a government in any sense of the word
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« Reply #5296 on: Friday, March 15, 2019, 19:38:05 »

On another note, that woman MP who went to prison, how the fuck does she keep her seat?
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« Reply #5297 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 17:09:28 »

An exciting moment for fans of niche parliamentary procedure (that's just Jacob Rees-Mogg I think) as John Bercow announces that the British parliament effectively has the double (triple in this case) jeopardy rule on legislation and therefore Theresa May can't call another vote on the same deal.

I can see that going down well.


On another note, that woman MP who went to prison, how the fuck does she keep her seat?

Serious answer, the jail term has to be more than 12 months to automatically lose the seat. She can be recalled with 10% of her constituents signing a petition though, which you'd imagine would happen as both local parties support it.
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« Reply #5298 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 17:21:48 »

On another note, that woman MP who went to prison, how the fuck does she keep her seat?
the best of it is she turned up to vote last week with a tag on
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« Reply #5299 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 17:22:18 »

An exciting moment for fans of niche parliamentary procedure (that's just Jacob Rees-Mogg I think) as John Bercow announces that the British parliament effectively has the double (triple in this case) jeopardy rule on legislation and therefore Theresa May can't call another vote on the same deal.

I can see that going down well.


Serious answer, the jail term has to be more than 12 months to automatically lose the seat. She can be recalled with 10% of her constituents signing a petition though, which you'd imagine would happen as both local parties support it.

Erskine May, Theresa May not.
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« Reply #5300 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 18:42:05 »

This is ####ing comical.  Almost at the point now where we don't really deserve to be a country any more.

Whatever happens with Brexit in the next few weeks, it's obvious that there needs to be a complete rewrite of the Constitution and how Parliament works.  But I'd probably let Scotland & NI go their separate ways first before bothering with any of that.

This is as far from 'taking back control' as it's possible to get.
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« Reply #5301 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 18:49:42 »

This is ####ing comical.  Almost at the point now where we don't really deserve to be a country any more.

Whatever happens with Brexit in the next few weeks, it's obvious that there needs to be a complete rewrite of the Constitution and how Parliament works.  But I'd probably let Scotland & NI go their separate ways first before bothering with any of that.

This is as far from 'taking back control' as it's possible to get.

Buckland in his role of Solicitor General has decreed a constitutional crisis....
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« Reply #5302 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 18:56:57 »

An exciting moment for fans of niche parliamentary procedure (that's just Jacob Rees-Mogg I think) as John Bercow announces that the British parliament effectively has the double (triple in this case) jeopardy rule on legislation and therefore Theresa May can't call another vote on the same deal.


Another change of font and line spacing beckons.
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« Reply #5303 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 18:59:41 »

Seems as good a time as any to repeat my support for HARD REMAIN

So in summary, there is no majority for a deal, there is no majority for no-deal, there is no majority for remain, and there is no majority for another referendum. There is no majority for a change in the leader of the governing party, and there is no majority for a no-confidence vote in the government. With all this in mind, let's get rid of the lot and let the EU run the show: HARD REMAIN.


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« Reply #5304 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 19:10:36 »

Whatever happens with Brexit in the next few weeks, it's obvious that there needs to be a complete rewrite of the Constitution and how Parliament works.

I agree.

But, as the current clusterfuck shows, good luck getting MPs to vote for that.

The whole reason we're in this current situation is because the majority of the Commons put themselves ahead of their country.
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« Reply #5305 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 19:18:06 »

 
Seems as good a time as any to repeat my support for HARD REMAIN

As things stand we leave the EU in 11 days with no deal.

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« Reply #5306 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 19:22:50 »

This is more comical than a Luke Williams defence. Surely may has to be told to fuck off. Most leavers would remain than sign up to her deal which unites remainders and leavers in agreeing it's a pile of shit.
This country is a laughing stock. Parliament is a laughing stock. Both major parties are a laughing stock.
I'd suspend parliament after rescinding article 50. We've waited a while to leave, another couple of years won't hurt. A general election needs to be called but fuck knows how people would vote. You can see the smaller parties hoovering up votes.
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« Reply #5307 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 19:56:45 »

I think we're agreed Chalkies, and I'm at the opposite side to you on wanted result.
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« Reply #5308 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 21:14:15 »

Buckland has, I think, suggested prorogue to get around the rules on repeated votes being presented to parliament. The irony being this would politicise Her Maj and effectively make her one of them unelected bureacrats.

I'm sure it would look good from the outside too.
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« Reply #5309 on: Monday, March 18, 2019, 21:16:45 »

This is more comical than a Luke Williams defence. Surely may has to be told to fuck off. Most leavers would remain than sign up to her deal which unites remainders and leavers in agreeing it's a pile of shit.
This country is a laughing stock. Parliament is a laughing stock. Both major parties are a laughing stock.
I'd suspend parliament after rescinding article 50. We've waited a while to leave, another couple of years won't hurt. A general election needs to be called but fuck knows how people would vote. You can see the smaller parties hoovering up votes.
Logically you're right - the government isn't functioning and nor is parliament, neither are capable of governing the country. But a delay or even another referendum which I think is a likely outcome of an election would I fear be even more divisive than what we've already seen, difficult though that may be to imagine. I think we're more and more likely to crash out without a deal right now
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