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« Reply #2610 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 09:28:04 »

Harvey Weinstein and the current dramatics in Hollywood.
Seriously, we have a bunch of ‘women’ who prostituted themselves on the chance it would enhance their career and fame. Too many sensitive left wing beta males giving these cretinous cunts attention.

Talk Talk is that you?
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« Reply #2611 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 12:29:10 »

 The Government have refused to publish the outcome of an analysis of how Brexit will impinge on 58 areas of the economy.

 Here's why. Read it in a Sir Humphrey Appleby voice....

“There is a strong public interest in policy-making associated with our exit from the EU being of the highest quality and conducted in a safe space to allow for design and deliberation to be done in private.”

“In this case, releasing the commissioning document for this exercise, which is still a live policy issue, may undermine the effective formulation or development of policies which are key to our negotiating strategy.

“Disclosure would similarly set a precedent that would inhibit free and frank discussion in the future. Without the necessary safe space for unreserved instruction in commissioning briefs, the quality of the eventual advice from the respective exercise would be diminished and would in turn lead to poorer decision making.”
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« Reply #2612 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 13:01:41 »

Reg, aside for a penchant for the exotic Eastern European ladies, should you not be staunchly against the EU as a construct?  Labour/Unions only supported it because it enabled social policy to be enacted over the Conservative party wishes as the Governing party for so long, pre-Blair.
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« Reply #2613 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 13:16:48 »

The Government have refused to publish the outcome of an analysis of how Brexit will impinge on 58 areas of the economy.

 Here's why. Read it in a Sir Humphrey Appleby voice....

“There is a strong public interest in policy-making associated with our exit from the EU being of the highest quality and conducted in a safe space to allow for design and deliberation to be done in private.”

“In this case, releasing the commissioning document for this exercise, which is still a live policy issue, may undermine the effective formulation or development of policies which are key to our negotiating strategy.

“Disclosure would similarly set a precedent that would inhibit free and frank discussion in the future. Without the necessary safe space for unreserved instruction in commissioning briefs, the quality of the eventual advice from the respective exercise would be diminished and would in turn lead to poorer decision making.”

Couple of things...

We have a negotiating strategy? Fucking hell they have kept that quiet;

They seem to think that the EU won't have undertaken exactly the same process as part of their strategy (as they seem to have both a plan and be organised) so not sure what difference it will make.
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« Reply #2614 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 13:22:24 »

We have a negotiating strategy?

Brexit means brexit is clear enough surely. We will Brexit with a deal or without one, and may or may not try to put special trade provision in for certain key industry sectors. The time frame for Brexit after Brexit deadline day is between 0 days and roughly when the Devil skates to work, which is the transition period. Our divorce bill be roughly £1 more per week for several years than we currently contribute, because Theresa May and David 'mince' Davis played hardball.

Its going well. Well its going.
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« Reply #2615 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 14:06:47 »

I haven't yet heard anyone inside or outside the government outline an effective negotiating strategy for Britain for the simple reason that there isn't  one.

Entering into a negotiation with no rights to enforce an agreement and with a fixed deadline at which point you fall off a cliff and the other party is mildly inconvenienced doesn't feature in any books on smart initial negotiating positions.

 
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« Reply #2616 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 14:10:13 »

Could not give 2 fucks about brexit either way.

Hope it helps
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« Reply #2617 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 14:54:37 »

Reg, aside for a penchant for the exotic Eastern European ladies, should you not be staunchly against the EU as a construct?  Labour/Unions only supported it because it enabled social policy to be enacted over the Conservative party wishes as the Governing party for so long, pre-Blair.

I thought long and hard about my vote, and swayed between the 2.... initially I took what might be regarded as the Bennite position, but was swayed in the end to vote remain by considering the future generations both our own and those of our European neighbours.

It is now about the form that Brexit takes and it's impact on the structure of our society...

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« Reply #2618 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 17:17:34 »

As soon as we reach March 2019, the adage that 'democracy did not end on June 23rd 2016' will resonate more than it does now.  If the negotiations fail to produce a deal, and living standards fall as a result - I am sure that the tide will turn quickly and a consensus will build towards taking whatever steps necessary to undo the damage caused.  You can't eat sovereignty for breakfast.
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« Reply #2619 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 17:31:24 »

The list is now circulating in a partially redacted form.... https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/10/31/the-unredacted-spreadsheet-of-40-tory-mps-accused-of-inappropriate-sexual-behaviour/#jp-carousel-42337
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« Reply #2620 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 17:37:08 »


Justin Tomlinson gets a mention.
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« Reply #2621 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 17:50:10 »

Justin Tomlinson gets a mention.

There are now non redacted copies doing the rounds and the matter regarding Tomlinson is already in the public domain to the extent of being noted on his Wiki entry.
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« Reply #2622 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 18:19:12 »

There are now non redacted copies doing the rounds and the matter regarding Tomlinson is already in the public domain to the extent of being noted on his Wiki entry.

I suspect Tomlinson gets in due to backing up his Wonga blub, with blurring the lines with his personal assistant.


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« Reply #2623 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 18:19:51 »

There are now non redacted copies doing the rounds and the matter regarding Tomlinson is already in the public domain to the extent of being noted on his Wiki entry.

So it is. Off with his head anyway.
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« Reply #2624 on: Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 08:40:00 »

Looking up Damian Green online I came across Rachel@Rachel_Swindon who is a prolific and rather amusing harrier of Tory MPs.

Anyone know her?  At the risk of stereotyping I'm guessing she isn't an ST follower.
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