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« Reply #2520 on: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 07:40:33 »

Whilst being a conservative council house kid

This statement belongs in the mildly confused, don't understand thread.
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« Reply #2521 on: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 11:05:42 »

This statement belongs in the mildly confused, don't understand thread.
Then you'll just have to remain confused.
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« Reply #2522 on: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 12:15:45 »

This statement belongs in the mildly confused, don't understand thread.

There's a house in Kingswood Avenue, Park North, which had a plaque, maybe it still has, but it's years since I was last there, commemorating being opened by Duncan Sandys who was Housing Minister in MacMillan's government.

It was some sky number of council houses that the Tories had built post war.  Sandys was one of those old skool Tories who believed in noblesse oblige, typically old Etonian and Magdalen, he was married to Winston's daughter.

Sandys was also responsible for such things as the Clean Air act, and greenbelt legislation to keep a check on developers... today he'd be seen as a left wing politician, very pro European having been shot in the failed Norway campaign argued for by his father-in-law. Think this is what LL means.
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« Reply #2523 on: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 12:39:33 »

There's a house in Kingswood Avenue, Park North, which had a plaque, maybe it still has, but it's years since I was last there, commemorating being opened by Duncan Sandys who was Housing Minister in MacMillan's government.

It was some sky number of council houses that the Tories had built post war.  Sandys was one of those old skool Tories who believed in noblesse oblige, typically old Etonian and Magdalen, he was married to Winston's daughter.

Sandys was also responsible for such things as the Clean Air act, and greenbelt legislation to keep a check on developers... today he'd be seen as a left wing politician, very pro European having been shot in the failed Norway campaign argued for by his father-in-law. Think this is what LL means.

Sandys was also famous for being, allegedly, the headless man......
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« Reply #2524 on: Monday, September 11, 2017, 15:14:45 »

Gina strikes again.... Theresa May must really hate the woman for holding the government to account...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...liaments-approval-after-gina-miller-challenge
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« Reply #2525 on: Monday, September 11, 2017, 16:24:27 »

Your link got truncated

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/11/tory-dup-1bn-payment-needs-parliaments-approval-after-gina-miller-challenge
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« Reply #2526 on: Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 16:38:23 »

Gina strikes again.... Theresa May must really hate the woman for holding the government to account...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...liaments-approval-after-gina-miller-challenge

It is rather odd that remainers like Miller didn't really give Parliamentary democracy a second thought for the last four decades when we outsourced our executive responsibilities to the Berlaymont leading to Parliament being told what to do, but now since Brexit Miller et al are getting rather excited about the whole matter.

It's rather like MPs complaining about Henry VIII clauses in the Great Repeal Bill - currently going through Parliament - the same Henry VIII clauses which have been used since EEC entry to ram through EEC/EU law without such a murmur from MPs. Curious...

That said, it's probably not Miller nor the DUP May has to worry about but Ruth Davidson - only last week Davidson threatened to pull the plug on May's administration...
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« Reply #2527 on: Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 22:04:07 »

It is rather odd that remainers like Miller didn't really give Parliamentary democracy a second thought for the last four decades when we outsourced our executive responsibilities to the Berlaymont leading to Parliament being told what to do, but now since Brexit Miller et al are getting rather excited about the whole matter.

It's rather like MPs complaining about Henry VIII clauses in the Great Repeal Bill - currently going through Parliament - the same Henry VIII clauses which have been used since EEC entry to ram through EEC/EU law without such a murmur from MPs. Curious...

That said, it's probably not Miller nor the DUP May has to worry about but Ruth Davidson - only last week Davidson threatened to pull the plug on May's administration...

If Tory McTory Face wants the top job sometime in the future she'd be well advised to keep the poisoned dwarf in a cage until after the next GE. Miller is an agent provocateur/mouthpiece for some very powerful & influential organisation/s. Labour are, whether they realise it or not hammering nails into their own feet just before entering future arse kicking competitions. I take my hat off to Denis Skinner, he understands full well what is at stake for this country and his constituents. He made a call based on solid ground, not for any backsliding political future gain.
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« Reply #2528 on: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 13:02:12 »

Dennis Skinner has always opposed the EEC/EU, and voted against every relevant treaty, since he became an MP in 1970. It's good to see an MP have principles even though he has been disgracefully labelled a scab by his own party.
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« Reply #2529 on: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 17:03:45 »

Not too clear from Legends and Ghana whether they are in favour of or against parliamentary democracy and the rule of law.  Perhaps it depends?

For all I know Gina Miller may have given Parliamentary Democracy a second thought at the age of 12 but I wouldn't criticise her (or call her a "poison dwarf" if that was implied?) if she hadn't.
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« Reply #2530 on: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 17:36:01 »

Not too clear from Legends and Ghana whether they are in favour of or against parliamentary democracy and the rule of law.  Perhaps it depends?

For all I know Gina Miller may have given Parliamentary Democracy a second thought at the age of 12 but I wouldn't criticise her (or call her a "poison dwarf" if that was implied?) if she hadn't.
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« Reply #2531 on: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 17:37:08 »

Dennis Skinner has always opposed the EEC/EU, and voted against every relevant treaty, since he became an MP in 1970. It's good to see an MP have principles even though he has been disgracefully labelled a scab by his own party.

That's bullying socialism for for you. So much for the Tories being the nasty party.
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« Reply #2532 on: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 12:09:02 »

See Boris Johnsons learned the big lesson from Trump - when you find a lie you like, just keep repeating it even when you get caught out, enough people will fall for it anyway
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« Reply #2533 on: Sunday, September 17, 2017, 13:43:47 »

See Boris Johnsons learned the big lesson from Trump - when you find a lie you like, just keep repeating it even when you get caught out, enough people will fall for it anyway
Yeah, like abolishing tuition fees for the young and gullible.
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« Reply #2534 on: Sunday, September 17, 2017, 14:49:56 »

I don't get that legends-lounge??
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