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« Reply #1920 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 06:28:22 » |
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Fair comment re Trump/Boris - but at least we have the get out that an unelected PM has appointed him. That's democracy.
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« Reply #1921 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 06:37:08 » |
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Fair comment re Trump/Boris - but at least we have the get out that an unelected PM has appointed him. That's democracy.
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« Reply #1922 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 08:12:06 » |
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technically no. But in reality I think quite a few take who is likely to be pm in as much regard as the party manifesto..
taking of which, what % of the manifesto/policy is now implementable? I swear they are on to making it up as they go along now....
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« Reply #1923 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 08:28:52 » |
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technically no. But in reality I think quite a few take who is likely to be pm in as much regard as the party manifesto..
taking of which, what % of the manifesto/policy is now implementable? I swear they are on to making it up as they go doing now....
Equally I suspect that Boris would not have been considered for such a high ranking job had the leave side not adopted him as their figurehead and followed his promises, seems a bit of a win, win, win for him really, gets rid of Cameron and settles the Eton/Oxford battle, gets a high ranking job without the distracting ball ache of actually delivering on any of his promises, which will be the task of Davies, Fox and May - still leaves it open for the saviour to return at a later date when his acolytes realise it was all founded on sand really. Boris has played a jolly clever game. |
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« Reply #1924 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 10:13:43 » |
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Gove, Osborne, Hunt & Morgan all sacked. Theresa May just made a lot of the public sector very, very happy. Although their replacements probably won't be raving socialists...
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« Reply #1925 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 10:37:13 » |
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Indeed, suspect that may fall into the category of "Be careful what you wish for"
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« Reply #1926 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 10:40:20 » |
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Wild celebrations in the BBC Newsroom at the news Whittingdale sacked, according to a hastily deleted tweet
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« Reply #1927 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 11:32:38 » |
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Gove, Osborne, Hunt & Morgan all sacked. Theresa May just made a lot of the public sector very, very happy. Although their replacements probably won't be raving socialists...
Remember that we now have a new Chancellor and to quote the BBC 'With a reputation forged in the shadow Treasury team as the Tories' public spending "axeman"' I understand it may be the case that Osbournes assault on public services may seem tame compared with what this lot come up with, whatever she might say Theresa May is no friend of the poor, working class or needy! Its only going to get worse, the intriguing one is who is going to get health and continue that process, Hunt always seemed to be OK with being universally vilified but I suspect he didn't come up with the policy on his own and thus the face may change but I doubt the policy will. |
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« Reply #1928 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 11:49:01 » |
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At the end of the day Tories will always be Tories, they will look after the self interest of their class, if that coincides with bringing benefits to the lower orders to maintain social cohesion, then sobeit.
For example the postwar governments of Eden, McMillan and Heath were prepared to go along wth one nation Butskillite philosophy, because they feared insurrection and after Suez knew that the Empire and therefore country was fucked.
Now they have no such fears we effectively live in a one party state...
If the Brexit gamble fails to deliver a stronger economy, then opposition may well take other less civilised forms.....worrying times ahead.
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« Reply #1929 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 13:09:36 » |
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At the end of the day Tories will always be Tories, they will look after the self interest of their class, if that coincides with bringing benefits to the lower orders to maintain social cohesion, then sobeit.
For example the postwar governments of Eden, McMillan and Heath were prepared to go along wth one nation Butskillite philosophy, because they feared insurrection and after Suez knew that the Empire and therefore country was fucked.
Now they have no such fears we effectively live in a one party state...
If the Brexit gamble fails to deliver a stronger economy, then opposition may well take other less civilised forms.....worrying times ahead.
I think insurrection is unlikely if only there is not really anyone charismatic enough for people to get behind, plus most of the population have become meh about many things and don't really care if it doesn't affect them directly. I keep banging on about a centrist party but it would at least give the Tories something to think about, sadly Labour MP's who hate Corbyn seem unable to get off their hands and instead will just remain in the party and whinge to keep their seats, whilst the election of May have headed off any Tory defections, the Lib Dems say various things but rarely beyond their core support (Farron has said some interesting stuff post Brexit but its never made the media) and seem a busted flush and irrelevant at the very time their brand of politics could form a home for many disillusioned voters and MP's. I suppose in summary we are just fucked! |
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« Reply #1930 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 13:10:40 » |
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technically no. But in reality I think quite a few take who is likely to be pm in as much regard as the party manifesto..
taking of which, what % of the manifesto/policy is now implementable? I swear they are on to making it up as they go along now....
No opposition = do what the fuck they like, but at least we have wrestled our sovereignty back. |
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« Reply #1931 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 13:21:08 » |
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Gove, Osborne, Hunt & Morgan all sacked. Theresa May just made a lot of the public sector very, very happy. Although their replacements probably won't be raving socialists...
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« Reply #1932 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 13:27:40 » |
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Wild celebrations in the BBC Newsroom at the news Whittingdale sacked, according to a hastily deleted tweet
...much celebrating amongst my librarian colleagues too, although it's probably too late to save anything much of Swindon's library service. |
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« Reply #1933 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 13:35:42 » |
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Wild celebrations in the BBC Newsroom at the news Whittingdale sacked, according to a hastily deleted tweet
Isn't the BBC supposed to be neutral... |
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« Reply #1934 on: Thursday, July 14, 2016, 14:05:51 » |
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Isn't the BBC supposed to be neutral... As an institution, yes. But that doesn't stop the individuals employed there having their own opinions on whether or not the Minister is a twat, just so long as they don't allow that to seep into their reports. Same as teachers can think Jeremy Hunt is walking rhyming slang so long as they don't teach the kids that. They just give them the tools to work it out for themselves |
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