Let's Get Political!

[horlock07]

Let's also ban those norveners too.

Oi!

[Reg Smeeton]

 Got to love the story, I assume it's true, that the Parliament wished to use a nearby building when The Palace of Westminster, is closed for renovation, only to discover it's been leased to an Islamic finance operation, so now operates under Sharia Law. It can be used but no alcohol consumption or bars 

[Saxondale]

I also see that the government department responsible for Gideons big 'Northern Powerhouse' publicity splash are being shutdown and moved to London.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/northern-powerhouse-department-close-sheffield-7265022

So in addition to this, this week they've been defeated twice in the lords, the hated bedroom tax has been declared illegal - not just immoral, they've allowed google to pay tax at 3% whilst the Italian have managed to get 15%, the health minister has been censured by a judge who has told him to remove a tweet which may prejudice a legal case and they have done a u turn on legal reforms. 

All hidden by the fact that the PM and his cohorts have decided that sneeringly referring to potential immigrants as a 'bunch of migrants'. 

Thats just off the top of my head.

I tell you what.  I dont like em.

[jayohaitchenn]

I also see that the government department responsible for Gideons big 'Northern Powerhouse' publicity splash are being shutdown and moved to London.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/northern-powerhouse-department-close-sheffield-7265022

So in addition to this, this week they've been defeated twice in the lords, the hated bedroom tax has been declared illegal - not just immoral, they've allowed google to pay tax at 3% whilst the Italian have managed to get 15%, the health minister has been censured by a judge who has told him to remove a tweet which may prejudice a legal case and they have done a u turn on legal reforms. 

All hidden by the fact that the PM and his cohorts have decided that sneeringly referring to potential immigrants as a 'bunch of migrants'. 

Thats just off the top of my head.

I tell you what.  I dont like em.

And it's the opposition that are unelectable!

[horlock07]

I also see that the government department responsible for Gideons big 'Northern Powerhouse' publicity splash are being shutdown and moved to London.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/northern-powerhouse-department-close-sheffield-7265022

So in addition to this, this week they've been defeated twice in the lords, the hated bedroom tax has been declared illegal - not just immoral, they've allowed google to pay tax at 3% whilst the Italian have managed to get 15%, the health minister has been censured by a judge who has told him to remove a tweet which may prejudice a legal case and they have done a u turn on legal reforms. 

All hidden by the fact that the PM and his cohorts have decided that sneeringly referring to potential immigrants as a 'bunch of migrants'. 

Thats just off the top of my head.

I tell you what.  I dont like em.

And while they have no opposition in the Commons they will just continue to do what they want!

[Reg Smeeton]

And while they have no opposition in the Commons they will just continue to do what they want!

Corbyn's main problem is that he is trying to dilute his beliefs for the sake of party unity....it just creates a mess. 

He was elected on the premise of a new kind of politics, and should get on with it....namely a deselection purge of recalcitrant MP's who vote for things like bombing Syria.

[horlock07]

Corbyn's main problem is that he is trying to dilute his beliefs for the sake of party unity....it just creates a mess.  

He was elected on the premise of a new kind of politics, and should get on with it....namely a deselection purge of recalcitrant MP's who vote for things like bombing Syria.

Both sides need to split but neither will as they will lose the power in parliament that the combined party holds - and who will vote for them from the general electorate not knowing which arm will prevail. Basically someone needs to grow a pair and push the split through.

As for Corbyn he sounded like a breath of fresh air when elected but I am now unconvinced he is any better than the rest, his image seemingly the most important commodity! So we have the situation whereby he makes controversial socialist statement, this then clarified/watered down by a spokesman/Diane Abbott/Cat Smith to something more palatable to the centre but it is still on record that Corbyn made the statement which his acolytes will adore and the back down is credited to another!

The problem with the Labour Party rightly kicking off about the Google tax thing is the fact that the period covered is 2006-2011 a period which for the vast majority was covered by a Labour government and 3% is better than 0%.

[Reg Smeeton]

 I suspect that Labour will eventually split....again.

Corbyn I suspect is a Bennite anti EU man, and would have liked to see come out for a no vote in the referendum. Cameron will have his own problems trying to keep the Tories from lurching further to the right in the coming months.

 

[horlock07]

I suspect that Labour will eventually split....again.

Corbyn I suspect is a Bennite anti EU man, and would have liked to see come out for a no vote in the referendum. Cameron will have his own problems trying to keep the Tories from lurching further to the right in the coming months.

 

Indeed - British politics is a complete bloody mess at the moment and the only ones suffering whilst both major parties wave their accouterments around is us - the general electorate. The Tories can essentially do what they like (as shown by the increasing use of SI's to bypass parliament) whilst the Labour Party spend their days bickering - See Corbyn choosing to raise Trident the other weekend which plays to his acolytes rather than raising important issues such the further decay of student finance whilst interviewed on th telly - its a shambles and even the Lib Dems seem to have retreated into a bunker and are doing very little.

[Reg Smeeton]

Indeed - British politics is a complete bloody mess at the moment and the only ones suffering whilst both major parties wave their accouterments around is us - the general electorate. The Tories can essentially do what they like (as shown by the increasing use of SI's to bypass parliament) whilst the Labour Party spend their days bickering - See Corbyn choosing to raise Trident the other weekend which plays to his acolytes rather than raising important issues such the further decay of student finance whilst interviewed on th telly - its a shambles and even the Lib Dems seem to have retreated into a bunker and are doing very little.

A good precis, up til the "even the Lib Dems" point. The LD's got into bed with the Tories for the sake of a few ministerial cars....self serving like any Tory and a lot of Labour...and fuck the principles on which the gullible voted for us.

[RedRag]

Ministerial cars or not, the LDs had a significant moderating effect on what the Nasty Party was able to implement.

Not sure Ironside would approve of that effect but for me the effect as a whole was more balanced than the present mono-party government elected by minority

[suttonred]

Got to love the story, I assume it's true, that the Parliament wished to use a nearby building when The Palace of Westminster, is closed for renovation, only to discover it's been leased to an Islamic finance operation, so now operates under Sharia Law. It can be used but no alcohol consumption or bars 

Got to be bollocks, there's no such thing here. If it isn't bollocks then serious questions need to be asked and fast.

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

Got to love the story, I assume it's true, that the Parliament wished to use a nearby building when The Palace of Westminster, is closed for renovation, only to discover it's been leased to an Islamic finance operation, so now operates under Sharia Law. It can be used but no alcohol consumption or bars 

How can that happen ?
I didn't realise that the owner of a building could dictate what laws operate within it ?

What's to stop a nightclub owner selling drugs and saying he's operating under Colombian law ?

Fucking madness

[horlock07]

How can that happen ?
I didn't realise that the owner of a building could dictate what laws operate within it ?

What's to stop a nightclub owner selling drugs and saying he's operating under Colombian law ?

Fucking madness

No idea whether it's true, however owner could control use and matters of selling alcohol etc by way of restrictive covenants on the title - for instance normally if you buy a closed pub off a brewery they impose a covenant you cannot reopen selling booze - been looking at one thus this very week.

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

yea..........but he said sharia law