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« Reply #11070 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 13:26:29 »

Well that's alright then I can murder someone once because I got it wrong as I only meant to main them but as long as I don't do it again it's ok.
I can't remember a government so lacking in morals but I think that's the way of the world at the moment. The fact labour can't may a glove on them says a lot for starmer unless you go for the theory of keeping his powder dry.
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« Reply #11071 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 13:41:15 »

Tricky for starve Starmer, attacking while in a pandemic would be seen as using it for political gain.

not been impressed, but I do think the gloves are still on
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« Reply #11072 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 13:43:42 »

Labour need to get rid of Starmer. Rightly or wrongly, people haven't taken to him and we could be looking at another large Tory majority after the next election if things go on as they are. He's no doubt not been helped by all the in-fighting. The country is in the grips of a Tory government running rampant and the opposition seem more concerned about their own lot.
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« Reply #11073 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 13:51:04 »

The fact labour can't may a glove on them says a lot for starmer unless you go for the theory of keeping his powder dry.


I don't think it says much about Starmer or Labour to be honest, if the media won't report things he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He gives Johnson a kicking each PMQ's yet Hoyle for whatever reason will never stop Johnson lying or ask him to correct the record.

Similarly with the stuff about Hancock breaking the law, compare the limited reporting this has been getting in the media with the extent they are reporting the Salmond/Strugeon stuff and Harry/Meghan.

The problem/issue is that if people only get their news from the MSM then Labours voice is limited.

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« Reply #11074 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 13:52:14 »

Labour need to get rid of Starmer. Rightly or wrongly, people haven't taken to him and we could be looking at another large Tory majority after the next election if things go on as they are. He's no doubt not been helped by all the in-fighting. The country is in the grips of a Tory government running rampant and the opposition seem more concerned about their own lot.

And replace with who? for the reasons noted above no Labour leader is going to get a fair crack of the whip until the media turn against Johnson.
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« Reply #11075 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 14:08:36 »

Bucklands logic is beyond comprehension and shows how unfit he is for that office - similar to virtually every Tory minister. Main stream media do report anti Johnson / anti Tory news. I don't think that can be used an excuse for Labours continuing failures. I know they are mostly right wing but there's enough stuff out there. I think its a case of a lot of people don't give a fuck or for those that do, no credible alternative at the moment.
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« Reply #11076 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 16:05:24 »

Both of Swindon's MP's are utterly vile individuals. The evidence against the pair is overwhelming. People still vote for that pair of cunts though.

Labour are in no mans land. Trying to steer toward the middle ground after the last GE walkover and in doing so angering their core voters. Greens for me as things stand.
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« Reply #11077 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 16:33:05 »

Both of Swindon's MP's are utterly vile individuals. The evidence against the pair is overwhelming. People still vote for that pair of cunts though.

Labour are in no mans land. Trying to steer toward the middle ground after the last GE walkover and in doing so angering their core voters. Greens for me as things stand.
I think labour would be better off splitting in two. Let Corbyn and his momentum acolytes set up their own party and let labour get back to centre left and electable once again.
Momentum are a nasty bunch of cunts.
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« Reply #11078 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 16:56:28 »

I think labour would be better off splitting in two. Let Corbyn and his momentum acolytes set up their own party and let labour get back to centre left and electable once again.
Momentum are a nasty bunch of cunts.


Often thought the same with the ERG 'kipper wing agitating alongside the one nation Tories (normally). Big problem with FPTP when each of the big two keep the broadest of broad churches, and just look at the trouble it's caused over the years.

Right wing, inside right, CF (lib Dem), inside left, left wing - simples !
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« Reply #11079 on: Friday, February 26, 2021, 18:40:12 »

Often thought the same with the ERG 'kipper wing agitating alongside the one nation Tories (normally). Big problem with FPTP when each of the big two keep the broadest of broad churches, and just look at the trouble it's caused over the years.

Right wing, inside right, CF (lib Dem), inside left, left wing - simples !
Which is why we should replace the clearly not fit for purpose FPTP with some form of PR. And also why it won't happen.
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« Reply #11080 on: Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 14:04:21 »

Through the looking glass now folks, a Conservative exchequer ramping up corporation tax and spending loads of money. Funny old world, isn't it!

Edit: A massive tax write off for investment by companies though - basically if you're a company, invest every penny you've got and don't claim an accounting profit!
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« Reply #11081 on: Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 14:10:47 »

He seems to have split it though with a smaller rate applying to companies with lower profits.
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« Reply #11082 on: Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 14:21:57 »

Tell you what, I wouldn't fancy responding to this for Labour. Going after the northern towns vote in some style. They're a lot better at politics than Theresa May ever was, for sure.
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« Reply #11083 on: Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 14:37:49 »

Tell you what, I wouldn't fancy responding to this for Labour. Going after the northern towns vote in some style. They're a lot better at politics than Theresa May ever was, for sure.

Thing is they know the northern towns vote was/is slipping substantially already, and this is before the real effects of Brexit seep through. They have fucked over the fishermen, they are fucking over the farmers (the main votes they always got up north), they are sticking two fingers up at business etc etc.

Its going to be an interesting term of parliament this one.
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« Reply #11084 on: Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 15:19:01 »

Corporation tax to 25%. Labour wanted to go to 26% in 2019. Critic's said they'd cripple the country. Go figure.

Fuck all for keyworkers as expected.

 Also proof that money is and was always available if they wanted it to be. Austerity in 2010 wasn't necessary and everything they cut and closed didn't have to be. Yeah, I still hate the Tories.
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