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« on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:05:20 »

Was just wondering if STFC will EVER get a new stadium or a major redevelopment?. Getting concerned that we will get left behind, even worse when all our major local rivals all have new stadiums or major re-vamps for example...Reading-New Stadium, Poxford-New Stadium, Bristol Rovers-Getting new stadium, Bristol Shitty-Major redevelopment starting this summer. Swindon Town?? Sweet F.A. as per usual.....discuss folks
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:07:02 »

It's not really a discussion at the moment, is it? Power is not interested. So it's a way off.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:08:40 »

Thought we just had one, Didn't Jed get his building mate round "Bodgit & Scarper Ltd"...
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:09:16 »

It's not really a discussion at the moment, is it? Power is not interested. So it's a way off.
Yep so looks like we'll be left behind and playing in an out dated arena for some time to come then!!
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:14:55 »

Yep so looks like we'll be left behind and playing in an out dated arena for some time to come then!!
Yes. Power has stated he wants to get us self sufficient. Thats his priority. I think a new stadium is way down the line. This council hates STFC, in fact this council hates Swindon and everyone in it given their less than transparent actions re wifi, croft school etc.
The club is like the town itself. Reading centre was regenerated, slave Trade Central was regenerated but good old Swindon centre is full of pound shops, chavs, drunks and druggies.
I think the two will go hand in hand. Redevelop not only the CG but the cricket ground and athletics stadium and use it as a gateway to a new Swindon.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday, March 30, 2014, 22:18:20 »

Well, we are now a club that "knows our place and where we should be" Tosser extraordinair Steve Claridge pretty much said so last night on the FL show on BBC.
TBF he is a bit thick and I think he was trying to be nice about us for once.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 06:17:56 »

Well, we are now a club that "knows our place and where we should be" Tosser extraordinair Steve Claridge pretty much said so last night on the FL show on BBC.
TBF he is a bit thick and I think he was trying to be nice about us for once.


You a back handed compliment of sorts?
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« Reply #7 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 06:52:44 »

Well, we are now a club that "knows our place and where we should be" Tosser extraordinair Steve Claridge pretty much said so last night on the FL show on BBC.
TBF he is a bit thick and I think he was trying to be nice about us for once.


He's a top cunt...."PDC left and Mark Cooper took over" ....WRONG!!!
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« Reply #8 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 06:59:49 »

Much as I love the ground, you cannot keep putting off the inevitable.  There comes a point - and I think we're pretty much there already - where you'll not be able to delay doing something to the ground any longer.  The Town End has been on its last legs for years, for example.

So I agree completely with the OP.  We are being left behind...and we're starting to stand out as one of the only clubs who have done nothing to their ground in recent years.  Not sustainable really.  It's quite telling that most of us think of the Don Rogers Stand as the 'new' stand - and that's a stand that will be celebrating its 20th birthday this summer.

We'll get there.  Eventually.
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« Reply #9 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 07:06:07 »

The Tories on SBC have a new wheeze, privatising playing fields and leisure facilities etc.  Nominally companies taking on these, sign a long lease, bit like STFC, but they will have the right to apply to planning for change of use after 3 years.

With this in mind, it would be very easy to see SBC being happy to sell off the ground, and a purchaser being able to pay out the covenant and get a change of use.  The Trust got their 6 month priority thing, it may be needed...
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« Reply #10 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 08:05:34 »

We have already been left behind, and will continue to get further and further behind. Its a shame Power is just not interested in this side of the club, hopefully that changes.

Just think of the shitty little clubs we've seen over that time who got 3/4k people in run down old stadiums that are now championship/premiership clubs. Hull, Swansea, Fulham, Reading, Brighton, Huddersfield, Doncaster, Blackpool.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 08:17:44 »

We're not getting left behind, we've been behind for a while.

It all goes hand in hand though. The council don't care about the club, the people of Swindon barely care about the club and even it's own fanbase a few weeks ago were threatening to walk out on it. Why the hell should anyone spend millions re-developing when even Season Ticket holders can hardly be bothered?
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« Reply #12 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 08:23:57 »

It goes it cycles.

Soon certain restrictions, such as terracing, will be relaxed and the club will be able to design and build the new generation of stadia. Suddenly those who couldn't afford flat pack all-seaters will look like pioneers.

A town like Swindon should have a sporting complex it can be proud of but 20 years of dicking about shows that he'll have the current CG for a good while longer.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 08:56:33 »

Was just wondering if STFC will EVER get a new stadium or a major redevelopment?. Getting concerned that we will get left behind, even worse when all our major local rivals all have new stadiums or major re-vamps for example...Reading-New Stadium, Poxford-New Stadium, Bristol Rovers-Getting new stadium, Bristol Shitty-Major redevelopment starting this summer. Swindon Town?? Sweet F.A. as per usual.....discuss folks

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« Reply #14 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 08:56:40 »

It goes it cycles.

Soon certain restrictions, such as terracing, will be relaxed and the club will be able to design and build the new generation of stadia. Suddenly those who couldn't afford flat pack all-seaters will look like pioneers.

A town like Swindon should have a sporting complex it can be proud of but 20 years of dicking about shows that he'll have the current CG for a good while longer.

Unfortunately, times change, SBC used to put Rate/Council Tax money into leisure facilities, when it was predominantly Labour controlled, with the odd Tory interlude, but at the time, they could largely see the benefit of a strong municipal tradition in this area.

So we got...the Oasis, the Link, Broome Manor golf course, the Athletics track at the CG ext, Lydiard Park, to add to already existing provision like Coate etc.

Culturally, Wyvern Theatre and the maintainance of the Art's Centre.....and the establishment of a noted collection of modern art.

This was the a kind of deal...you put up with sprawling new developments, but the upside being you can use monies raised to fund new facilities.

The Town even got the Arkells, at the time a very decent facility.

Now though we just get the sprawling developments, with next to no funds for any infrastructure let alone new facilities, just max the profits of multi-nationals...and fuck the citizens.  So SBC's policy of selling off leisure facilities is very much in keeping with the prevailing thinking, that any local democracy mustn't be allowed to stand in the way of profit....

The worry, is that they can get away with this and they know it....the majority in the town, don't give a shit about the place, further than it impinges on their abilities to drive or consume..and when they do like in the campaigns against the Front Garden and Coate developments...it makes no difference. This leads to the general feel of decline,and lack of concern for the environment which can be seen all around, and the football club, is just a reflection of this.

The Tories, have recently claimed the reports that they were looking to flog Lydiard were untrue...we'll see.

We should be proud of our shitty little ground, and don't just blithely assume that it will survive the next 20 or so years, with the likely changes in the political landscape.
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