Whats wrong with football?

[horlock07]

I suspect I am in the minority here, but I actually quite like it.

However with PP's history of piss take adverts I imagine this is following the same theme.

[Panda Paws]

If it does turn out to be a joke, I can't imagine much worse than my club being a banter vehicle for the ultimate banter lads of Paddy Power. Pretty grim all round.

Huddersfield would have made £250m+ in revenue the last two years - is a partnership like this really worth another 2%, and at what cost.

[pauld]

Joey Barton charged with ABH for (allegedly) nutting the Barnsley manager last season

[Peter Venkman]

Joey Barton charged with ABH for (allegedly) nutting the Barnsley manager last season

I think its a little more than allegedly as Daniel Stendel lost 2 teeth in the incident!

[pauld]

I think its a little more than allegedly as Daniel Stendel lost 2 teeth in the incident!

That's for a court to decide tbf, there may have been an incident in which Stendel lost 2 teeth, but it doesn't mean it was ABH. Could have been an accident, could have been self-defence, Stendel may have deliberately knocked his own teeth out to discredit the blameless soul that is Joey "Butter wouldn't melt" Barton

[Peter Venkman]

That's for a court to decide tbf, there may have been an incident in which Stendel lost 2 teeth, but it doesn't mean it was ABH. Could have been an accident, could have been self-defence, Stendel may have deliberately knocked his own teeth out to discredit the blameless soul that is Joey "Butter wouldn't melt" Barton

The man was and still is a thug. Yes I know it has to be proven but the sooner he is away from football the better, if found guilty he has to lose his job, surely?

[pauld]

The man was and still is a thug. Yes I know it has to be proven but the sooner he is away from football the better, if found guilty he has to lose his job, surely?

Leaving the devil's advocate shit aside for a moment, you'd have thought there was enough circumstantial evidence that whatever the legals he's clearly done enough to merit that in any case, so presumably the Fleetwood owner has decided to stand by him. Put it this way, if I was involved in an incident at work in which a colleague lost two teeth, I don't think they'd wait for a police investigation to conclude to show me the door!

[Peter Venkman]

Leaving the devil's advocate shit aside for a moment, you'd have thought there was enough circumstantial evidence that whatever the legals he's clearly done enough to merit that in any case, so presumably the Fleetwood owner has decided to stand by him. Put it this way, if I was involved in an incident at work in which a colleague lost two teeth, I don't think they'd wait for a police investigation to conclude to show me the door!

True.

[pauld]

Stevenage have been fined £5000 for an incident in which a group of around 100 fans directed sexist chants at a female official last season. Suspect some will have differing views on whether the sexist chanting that gave rise to the fine or the fine itself is what's wrong, but it's interesting in that this is the first time I've seen a punishment being imposed for this type of offence

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49015634

[Batch]

its an interesting one. Because it's not a massive leap to fines for 'whose the bastard in the black'.

[pauld]

its an interesting one. Because it's not a massive leap to fines for 'whose the bastard in the black'.

Perhaps not. Conversely, if you allow it as "just banter" etc, it's not a massive leap back to the commonplace racist chants of the 70s and 80s that are creeping back in now as well

[Peter Venkman]

I think it won't be long until all grounds have a no singing policy except for slight ripple of applause when a goal is scored.

Not suggesting the chanting was anything but unnaceptible but the FL/FA seem to have picked on a Stevenage IMO. Much much worse is sung at games higher up the leagues but they won't be dealt with similarly.

£5k to Stevenage is large amount for a team who barely scrape 2,500 home fans at games.

Man Utd were fined £13k for hundreds of their fans throwing things at PSG players.

Chelsea were let off when several thousand of their fans sang anti semetic songs to Spurs.

[Batch]

yeah, I don't think it's wrong. just not sure where the line is.

and though it's probably the right thing to do, I'd hate to see zero tolerance

[horlock07]

I think it won't be long until all grounds have a no singing policy except for slight ripple of applause when a goal is scored.

From reading what many say on here, hasn't the County Ground been like that for a few years now?

[pauld]

yeah, I don't think it's wrong. just not sure where the line is.

Me too, hence why I thought it was an interesting discussion. None of us want to see football "sanitised", but no-one wants to go back to the bad old days. (Well, not many anyway)