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« Reply #2790 on: Friday, February 17, 2017, 22:26:41 »

Ha the first 2 guys are on their phones and it looks like the third has a full on DSLR, I'm surprised that was allowed in a PL ground?

I find referring to Chelsea/Arsenal as a big derby more annoying, tbh. There's more to derbies than geographical location.
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« Reply #2791 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 07:04:41 »

The modern football fans sense of entitlement. From Arsenal fans moaning that they should be winning championships to our own supporters moaning that we should be pushing for promotion every season.
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« Reply #2792 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 08:15:23 »

if you pay over 1k for a season ticket, you should expect to win things over time. finally the myth that overrated above average manger Wenger is a world beater is unraveling.
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« Reply #2793 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 09:17:50 »

if you pay over 1k for a season ticket, you should expect to win things over time. finally the myth that overrated above average manger Wenger is a world beater is unraveling.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/arsene-wengers-premier-league-record-174739937.html

Take away the abomination of the 'Champions' League and the whole debate around success in the top division changes.

I must admit, I'm quite looking forward to Wenger going and his replacement being a bit of a Moyes-van Gaal.
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« Reply #2794 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 09:31:27 »

it's that in a nutshell isn't it, getting to the champions league knockout = success in modern football.
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« Reply #2795 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 12:35:42 »

I think it's somewhat harsh to call Wenger overrated.
He's certainly failed to adapt or move on with the times but his early Arsenal sides were fantastic - as were a lot of his signings.
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« Reply #2796 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 12:44:13 »

 Reading about the fella, whose done 93 league club grounds in England/Wales for the Guinness Book of Records. He keeps stubs as part of proof, some clubs don't issue, so he writes to them and they send him one. Apparently Arsenal charged him a tenner for a stub.
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« Reply #2797 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 12:48:09 »

I think it's somewhat harsh to call Wenger overrated.

Well I don't. He's created one good team, brilliant, amazing team. A long time ago.

Mourinho way ahead of him behind SAF as best premier manager. Other managers at lesser clubs performing better miracles IMO.
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« Reply #2798 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 13:44:05 »

Well I don't. He's created one good team, brilliant, amazing team. A long time ago.

Mourinho way ahead of him behind SAF as best premier manager. Other managers at lesser clubs performing better miracles IMO.
Agree with some of that, but Mourinho? Has a great impact in 1st and 2nd season, then the initial shock and awe treatment stops working and he quits/gets sacked in the 3rd. He's not capable of building and rebuilding in the way SAF did or to a lesser extent Wenger did and doesn't have the staying power either of them have. Wenger's faded badly over the last decade and probably should have jacked it 5 years ago tbh, but Mourinho's a flash-in-the-pan impact manager, does a job for a couple of seasons and once the initial impact wears off, has no idea what to do next.
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« Reply #2799 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 13:58:32 »

Joey Barton
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« Reply #2800 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 14:21:51 »

won more than Wenger, separated over time.

agree hrs worst of your ambition is simple top 4
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« Reply #2801 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 14:23:17 »

Joey Barton
Agreed but hopefully Lincoln hang on. Barton gets his toes stamped on and goes down clutching his head. Cunt.
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« Reply #2802 on: Saturday, February 18, 2017, 14:23:48 »

won more than Wenger, separated over time.
Yes, he wins loads in his first two seasons everywhere he goes. Then has to move on as he can't sustain it into a 3rd season. No way he could build a 20-year career at one club as Wenger and SAF have done.
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« Reply #2803 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2017, 13:41:59 »

From the "Be careful what you wish for" corner:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/01/leyton-orient-served-winding-up-order-over-unpaid-tax-bills
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« Reply #2804 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2017, 14:45:34 »


Likewise.... http://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/bruising-defeat-claim-in-shrimps-ownership-battle-1-8413780

Them were the days.
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