Whats wrong with football?

[Saxondale]

I heard our lot were doing it for Jamie Sendles-White but at a quid a letter they couldnt afford the hyphen.

[Reg Smeeton]

 Here's a bit of festive fun....4 interactive quizzes from the Graun on identifying photos of old grounds 

 https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2014/dec/22/football-stadiums-then-and-now-interactive-quiz

[Exiled Bob]

Did they need to put The Manor Ground so many times though....

[suttonred]

Might have been a bit harder if they'd photo shopped the kits and club badges out of them

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

I see the owners of the Swindon Greyhound track have bought Torquay United.

That's the end of them. In various guises they've been involved with greyhound tracks at Milton Keynes, Reading and Bristol - all closed and sold for redevelopment. Bastards.

[Flashheart]

I read that earlier.

The outgoing chariman seemed resigned to the club getting fucked over but could do nothing about it.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Real shame. Can't understand why some local businessman or even a fan's group didn't buy it. Not sure, but I think it was going for £300,000 - hardly a fortune.

[Peter Venkman]

Apparently it was several million to buy the club but they needed £300k to keep trading by last Fridays deadline 5pm(I think it was said).

Gaming International had that is spare cash so they signed the deal even though Chinese investors where in the running they couldn't free £300k by last Friday so they shit out on the deal.

Also the Torquay Fans Trust only has 133 members (@£24 a year) so that was never going to happen.

[Peter Venkman]

While looking round the forums I found this post about finances in L2, I didn't realise that Crawley and Notts County were subject currently to "winding up orders", also the Daily Mirror is reporting that Morecambe & Hartlepool are close to it also despite what this list says.....bad times for football indeed.

Pinched from the Morecambe forum:

Just checked credit ratings of League 2 clubs and there a lot in an awful mess besides us. Many are just crawling from one month to the next.

Anything over 50 is decent. 30-50 isn't great. Under 30 is worrying. Less than 20 and the recommendation is do 'cash transactions only' and is close to going under. Obviously the credit agencies only look at the fundamentals. So Accy's rating is based on past performance and last accounts.

Notts County 0 - winding up order
Crawley Town 0 - winding up order
Mansfield Town 3
Accrington Stanley 5
Newport County 10
Hartlepool 10
Grimsby Town 13
Stevenage 13
Plymouth Argyle 14
Morecambe 19
Leyton Orient 22
Luton Town 24
Carlisle United 42
Cheltenham 43
Wycombe Wanderers 44
Doncaster Rovers 50
Yeovil 59
Crewe Alexandra 60
Cambridge United 64
Exeter City 66
Barnet 69
Portsmouth 75
Blackpool 91

[horlock07]

While looking round the forums I found this post about finances in L2, I didn't realise that Crawley and Notts County were subject currently to "winding up orders", also the Daily Mirror is reporting that Morecambe & Hartlepool are close to it also despite what this list says.....bad times for football indeed.

Interesting that Blackpool have the best by some distance...

[Reg Smeeton]

Interesting that Blackpool have the best by some distance...

Would be interesting how we compare, in potential advance of next season 

[Panda Paws]

Interesting that Blackpool have the best by some distance...

Not really. Own the ground and hotel etc, years of parachute payments unspent...

[horlock07]

Not really. Own the ground and hotel etc, years of parachute payments unspent...

It was more the extent that the ownership is loathed by the fan base, but at least the club appears to have some financial stability? Reminds me of another club, I just cannot recall which one? 

[Panda Paws]

It was more the extent that the ownership is loathed by the fan base, but at least the club appears to have some financial stability? Reminds me of another club, I just cannot recall which one? 

That's a huge leap from some of our fans having a moan about poor PR and a perceived lack of ambition, to an owner taking loads of cash out the club while suffering 3 relegations in 5 seasons, suing fans etc...!

[horlock07]

That's a huge leap from some of our fans having a moan about poor PR and a perceived lack of ambition, to an owner taking loads of cash out the club while suffering 3 relegations in 5 seasons, suing fans etc...!

Sorry, have you read what a lot of our fans say about Power that's apparently exactly what he is up to (apparently), if he was litigious he could have a field day with certain outlets.

Likewise (tongue in cheek) if he is taking so much cash out, why is the credit rating so good? Be very interesting to see likewise for D3 as I suspect with our long history of problems ours would be woeful.

The Morecambe story has received very little limited coverage up here and if the local rag is to be believed its all down to cashflow during an ownership change (now where I have heard that before) associated with the process of being taken over by a Brazilian entrepreneur, who lives in Qatar - what could go wrong? In fact all sounds very familiar http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/sport/football/shrimps/morecambe-football-fans-vote-unanimously-to-form-supporters-trust-1-8270719 although you may get drawn to the story about the Hamster, Acid and Cannabis!

As per the other thread the Oystons are estate agents.....