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« Reply #3135 on: Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 19:42:23 »

Agreed..."I felt contact and went down"= CHEAT

Whilst I agree, and I do, refs are to blame here, too. They rarely give penalties if the player stays on his feet. It encourages diving when there's contact.
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« Reply #3136 on: Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 20:17:01 »

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« Reply #3137 on: Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 20:28:07 »

I disagree - most of them shouldn't be free kicks or penalties.  The game is supposed to allow contact, the only time a foul occurs is when a player illegally impedes another.  I'm not so sure a tap really does impede most human beings.  Even having your arm across used to be ok.  Unless you have enough physical contact to foul a player then it should be play on.  That of course will depend on the speed a player is travelling etc.
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« Reply #3138 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 09:32:37 »

The high court has found that Owen and Karl Oyston paid out nearly 27m to companies they owned in unsecured loans, operating an "illegitimate stripping" of the club after they reached the Premier League.

They now have to pay 10m to investor Belokon (who they effectively froze out) within 28 days and a further 21m going forward. Looks like there may be a light at the end of the tunnel for Blackpool fans, especially if this forces the Oystons' hand and makes them sell up.

Amazingly, BBC Sport has no mention of this on their home page, although there is a BBC news article covering it. This is a beter summary though:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/06/oystons-blackpool-ordered-pay-shareholder-high-court-valeri-belokon
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« Reply #3139 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 12:24:29 »

The high court has found that Owen and Karl Oyston paid out nearly 27m to companies they owned in unsecured loans, operating an "illegitimate stripping" of the club after they reached the Premier League.

They now have to pay 10m to investor Belokon (who they effectively froze out) within 28 days and a further 21m going forward. Looks like there may be a light at the end of the tunnel for Blackpool fans, especially if this forces the Oystons' hand and makes them sell up.

Amazingly, BBC Sport has no mention of this on their home page, although there is a BBC news article covering it. This is a beter summary though:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/06/oystons-blackpool-ordered-pay-shareholder-high-court-valeri-belokon

I guess good news for Blackpool fans, but it seems that the judgement concludes that stripping the funds from the club to the exclusion of Belokon was the misdemeanour, rather than to the exclusion of the fans.
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« Reply #3140 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 12:44:53 »

I guess good news for Blackpool fans, but it seems that the judgement concludes that stripping the funds from the club to the exclusion of Belokon was the misdemeanour, rather than to the exclusion of the fans.

As it was a judgment on the facts of the case, which related to the stripping of funds to the detriment of Belokon the court could reach no other finding.
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« Reply #3141 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 12:48:02 »

As it was a judgment on the facts of the case, which related to the stripping of funds to the detriment of Belokon the court could reach no other finding.

Indeed, but fans would see the wrong doing as stripping the money from the club, whereas it was in not giving the Latvian his share of the loot.
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« Reply #3142 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 13:25:14 »

England deciding to schedule some friendlies against actually good teams in order to give the side a genuine test... and then almost the entire first team picking up mysterious two week injuries.

I for one look forward to Rickie Lambert and Peter Crouch getting England farewells against Germany.
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« Reply #3143 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 13:51:32 »

Indeed, but fans would see the wrong doing as stripping the money from the club, whereas it was in not giving the Latvian his share of the loot.
I think you're getting confused between the wrong doing and the court judgement. One is a question of morality, the other a question of law. Although it seems Blackpool fans are hopeful the judgement will force the Oystons to sell up and all will be well. I hope they're right, I suspect they're likely to be further disappointed
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« Reply #3144 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 14:03:58 »

I think you're getting confused between the wrong doing and the court judgement. One is a question of morality, the other a question of law. Although it seems Blackpool fans are hopeful the judgement will force the Oystons to sell up and all will be well. I hope they're right, I suspect they're likely to be further disappointed

Not confused, just felt the need to point out, it may not be quite the good news that Blackpool fans hope.  On the other hand perhaps the Latvian's problems in Kyrgyzstan were  sure sign of his probity.
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« Reply #3145 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 14:35:20 »

England deciding to schedule some friendlies against actually good teams in order to give the side a genuine test... and then almost the entire first team picking up mysterious two week injuries.

I for one look forward to Rickie Lambert and Peter Crouch getting England farewells against Germany.


Looks like a route back to the world cup for Wayne Rooney...
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« Reply #3146 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 14:39:23 »

Not confused, just felt the need to point out, it may not be quite the good news that Blackpool fans hope.
Fair enough, minded to agree with you there
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« Reply #3147 on: Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 15:49:47 »

Not confused, just felt the need to point out, it may not be quite the good news that Blackpool fans hope.  On the other hand perhaps the Latvian's problems in Kyrgyzstan were  sure sign of his probity.

Hard to know exactly how it will all end up, but for a fanbase that's resorted to boycotting the club entirely it's a glimmer of hope. Fan's attention is rightly now turning towards the EFL who have done their best to wipe their hands of the issue up to now.
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« Reply #3148 on: Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 12:58:46 »

Hard to know exactly how it will all end up, but for a fanbase that's resorted to boycotting the club entirely it's a glimmer of hope. Fan's attention is rightly now turning towards the EFL who have done their best to wipe their hands of the issue up to now.
If they're looking to the League for help, they're fucked
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« Reply #3149 on: Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 13:24:47 »

If they're looking to the League for help, they're fucked

Quite true. I think it's more an attempt to embarass the EFL than an expectation of help. Surprised they haven't taken more direct action to protest as yet, given that EFL HQ is based down the road in Preston. Unless I missed something...
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