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« Reply #2955 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 11:57:08 » |
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England under 20's having 4 double barreled named players in the starting eleven.
Football has changed.
Society has changed. As I mentioned a while back, when Toby Roland-Jones was called up for a Test, but didn't play.... surprisingly the last double barrelled man to play cricket for England was Norman (Mandy) Mitchell-Innes. |
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« Reply #2957 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:04:02 » |
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England under 20's having 4 double barreled named players in the starting eleven.
Football has changed.
How on earth does this impact football negatively? I work with loads of working class people (if that's what you're getting at) with double-barrelled names. Victor Moses, Frank Lampard, Joe Bryan, Alex Pearce, Will Hughes, Duncan Watmore, Patrick Bamford, Fraser Forster - privately educated, no db names. I'll give you Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain though. 92 teams over four divisions, not everyone is going to come from the Estate. |
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« Reply #2958 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 12:13:52 » |
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How on earth does this impact football negatively? I work with loads of working class people (if that's what you're getting at) with double-barrelled names.
Victor Moses, Frank Lampard, Joe Bryan, Alex Pearce, Will Hughes, Duncan Watmore, Patrick Bamford, Fraser Forster - privately educated, no db names.
I'll give you Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain though.
92 teams over four divisions, not everyone is going to come from the Estate.
Fucking hell calm down comrade, it was an entirely tongue in cheek remark, although possibly illustrates the peculiar trend in modern society at the moment to give kids DB names. |
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« Reply #2959 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:13:36 » |
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I don't think it's peculiar, it's just a sign that fewer people are taking married names.
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« Reply #2960 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:22:23 » |
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And more kids are keeping the names of both their divorced parents.
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« Reply #2961 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:24:53 » |
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Quite. I have friends with kids that have double barrelled names. All either divorced or unmarried and not a single one sports a horsey-jaw.
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« Reply #2962 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:34:47 » |
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As others have said, if I had to take a guess I'd say the DB names are more to do with them being born out of wedlock /not in a stable relationship than being posh!
Although, I have always wondered. With more DB surnames around - what happens if/when two people with DB surnames want to get married but both want to keep their last name?
Is there a limit to how long a surname can be?
Also, seems a growing trend (and my sample data is people I know on FB so nothing serious) people getting married and both keeping their name and taking their partners name - why, I don't know.
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« Reply #2963 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 13:43:02 » |
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I know a few people who have merged their last names together to create a new one. When I say a few, I mean two couples... But still, I found that a bit odd but it seems to work for them.
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« Reply #2964 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 14:14:43 » |
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Surnames are weird thing. I'm getting married this summer and couldn't give less of a toss about keeping my surname, but really don't want to double barrel because we both have reasonably long names and it would look stupid. My fianceé quite wants to keep hers but wasn't that fussed until my dad and grandmother came wading in with some stupid shit about keeping the family name and everyone apparently really cares other than me.
Still not double barreling though.
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« Reply #2965 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 14:30:19 » |
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I'm more perplexed by the increasing popularity of double-barrelled forenames
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« Reply #2966 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 17:57:40 » |
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Surnames are weird thing. I'm getting married this summer and couldn't give less of a toss about keeping my surname, but really don't want to double barrel because we both have reasonably long names and it would look stupid. My fianceé quite wants to keep hers but wasn't that fussed until my dad and grandmother came wading in with some stupid shit about keeping the family name and everyone apparently really cares other than me.
Still not double barreling though.
Clearly you, your future missus and any progeny you may have should all take the double barrelled name "Shit-Bacon". |
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« Reply #2967 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 18:00:57 » |
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Clearly you, your future missus and any progeny you may have should all take the double barrelled name "Shit-Bacon".
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« Reply #2968 on: Thursday, June 8, 2017, 21:20:27 » |
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I'm more perplexed by the increasing popularity of double-barrelled forenames
As the saying goes 'two-dads' |
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« Reply #2969 on: Sunday, June 11, 2017, 15:10:03 » |
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Going back to the original point about names... well done to the England U 20's for winning their WC.
Here's the problem though, will many of them get a chance to develop into full internationals? The standard on display yesterday at Hampden was woeful... ok they can use the excuse of it coming at a funny time... when several have already been on hols, but it was very similar to Iceland game last summer, players unable to pass, control a ball, kick a corner etc.
Had it been v any half decent side England would have deservedly lost.
There needs to be some sort of structure in place to help these lads to develop... as they'll not get much game time at Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man Ure etc and it's not te Checkatrade trophy
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