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« Reply #1830 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:41:54 »

I would have preferred Chris Ramsey to Martin Ling...

I always thought Hebburn was quite funny but not sure if he is manager material.
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« Reply #1831 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:44:22 »

I was going to mention this in the managerial thread but didn't want to.

You weren't sacked because of the colour of your skin, you were sacked because you performed badly.

Await for Sol Campbell or Clarke Carlisle to make an announcement shortly...

Did I imagine that Sol Campbell was supposed to be running to be an MP or something?

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« Reply #1832 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:45:47 »

Did I imagine that Sol Campbell was supposed to be running to be an MP or something?



London mayor.

He's a tory, doesn't want to pay too much tax on his 34 mill fortune or property portfolio.
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« Reply #1833 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:57:57 »

People wonder there seems little team spirit in the French national team?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34731780
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« Reply #1834 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:58:36 »

London mayor.

He's a tory, doesn't want to pay too much tax on his 34 mill fortune or property portfolio.

Isn't the Tory candidate Zac Goldsmith... bloody racists!
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« Reply #1835 on: Thursday, November 5, 2015, 13:40:41 »

The glaringly obvious point that appears to have been overlooked by Troy Townsend is that if the people that employed Chris Powell and Chris Ramsey sacked them because of their colour they wouldn't have employed them as managers in the first place.

Yup. I don't doubt for a second that there's a race issue in football management appointments, but this is an utterly daft line of argument for the obvious reason you mentioned.

Wouldn't have minded seeing either man here mind. Would probably have been in the picture if they'd been sacked a fortnight ago.
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« Reply #1836 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 07:49:45 »

Interesting just heard an interview from the DOF  who appears to have been heavily involved in sacking.... Les Ferdinand...
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« Reply #1837 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 07:55:37 »

Clearly a choc ice, it's the only possible explanation.
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« Reply #1838 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 08:06:35 »

London mayor.

He's a tory, doesn't want to pay too much tax on his 34 mill fortune or property portfolio.
Neither do your socialist mates it would seem. Funny what having money does to people and what it does to those who don't.
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« Reply #1839 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 11:27:57 »

And who's top of the Championship currently? Chris Hughton, a black manager. You don't get the results, you lose your job. You do well, you keep your job, regardless of skin colour.
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« Reply #1840 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 12:41:11 »

I don't think Cooper asked "Is it cos I is white?" when he got sacked did he?
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« Reply #1841 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 13:37:49 »

I don't think Cooper asked "Is it cos I is white?" when he got sacked did he?

Not quite the same is it !

I have mixed feelings on the issue tbh. On the one hand, I'm pretty sure the managers in question were sacked for not winning enough games, but on the other hand, I don't think that is the main point being made. The main point is that there aren't enough BME coaches and now there are even fewer, which is unarguable.
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« Reply #1842 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 13:51:41 »

Ramsey's sacking was justified, Chris Powell's was pretty harsh. Huddersfield are small fry at that level.
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« Reply #1843 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 14:53:44 »

Not quite the same is it !

I have mixed feelings on the issue tbh. On the one hand, I'm pretty sure the managers in question were sacked for not winning enough games, but on the other hand, I don't think that is the main point being made. The main point is that there aren't enough BME coaches and now there are even fewer, which is unarguable.

Completely agree. The problem isn't really at the top, where black managers are given a fair crack of the whip. The problem is still far too few black players moving through into coaching. The article says BME players: 25% / senior coaches: 4%.

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« Reply #1844 on: Friday, November 6, 2015, 15:20:37 »

Completely agree. The problem isn't really at the top, where black managers are given a fair crack of the whip. The problem is still far too few black players moving through into coaching. The article says BME players: 25% / senior coaches: 4%.

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Why is it too few? It suggests there might be an issue, nothing more IMO. As I said last time this came up, unless you know how many black players are going on to do their coaching badges, the 4% figure is irrelevant.
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