We've not had a religious debate on here for a while...

[Batch]

There is evidence that points to a further being existing but I suggest unless a big bearded chap is thrust in front of your eyes you would be inclined to disregard any evidence put forward.

That leads to a the question, why the bloody hell hasn't he. He could pop down, tell us all where we went wrong over the last 2000 years. Pop off again.

[Reg Smeeton]

That leads to a the question, why the bloody hell hasn't he. He could pop down, tell us all where we went wrong over the last 2000 years. Pop off again.

Didn't David Icke do this...as well as playing 37 games for Hereford

[Batch]

Didn't David Icke do this...as well as playing 37 games for Hereford

Yes, but while somebody wearing a turquoise tracksuit is quite un-human it isn't really the proof I was looking for.

[Reg Smeeton]

Yes, but while somebody wearing a turquoise tracksuit is quite un-human it isn't really the proof I was looking for.

Just believe Batch....just believe...

[DMR]

There is evidence that points to a further being existing

Enlighten me.

Not a dig either, I mean really, enlighten me.

[ghanimah]

I always find the passions aroused in the Creationism vs Evolution debate the theological equivalent of PC vs Apple

[Arriba]

If there was ant evidence of any god i could maybe be swung.aint seen any yet

[sheepshagger]

Do you not remember Glenn Hoddle at Birmingham away Arriba ?

What more fucking evidence does anyone need

[Flashheart]

Back home early from thew pub and drunk......

R4E. If I insult you, please don't take it personally. It's just a clash of opinions (and I'm drunk)

Exile Bob. If I insult you, then fair play to me. It's not a clash of opinions, you are just stupid.

[tans]

Haha go arnnn Finchy

[Flashheart]

Bear with me.

Me fookin internet keeps cutting out

[Flashheart]

Evidence supporting evolution

1 Evidence from comparative physiology and biochemistry
1.1 Genetics
1.1.1 Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns
1.1.2 DNA sequencing
1.1.3 Endogenous retroviruses
1.1.4 Proteins
1.1.5 Pseudogenes
1.1.6 Other mechanisms
1.2 Specific examples
1.2.1 Feline endogenous retroviruses
1.2.2 Chromosome 2 in humans
1.2.3 Cytochrome c
1.2.4 Human endogenous retroviruses
1.2.5 Recent African origin of modern humans
2 Evidence from comparative anatomy
2.1 Atavisms
2.2 Evolutionary developmental biology and embryonic development
2.3 Homologous structures and divergent (adaptive) evolution
2.4 Nested hierarchies and classification
2.5 Vestigial structures
2.6 Specific examples
2.6.1 Hind structures in whales
2.6.2 Insect mouthparts
2.6.3 Other arthropod appendages
2.6.4 Pelvic structure of dinosaurs
2.6.5 Pentadactyl limb
2.6.6 Recurrent laryngeal nerve in giraffes
2.6.7 Route of the vas deferens
3 Evidence from paleontology
3.1 Fossil record
3.1.1 Extent of the fossil record
3.2 Limitations
3.3 Specific examples
3.3.1 Evolution of the horse
4 Evidence from geographical distribution
4.1 Continental distribution
4.2 Island biogeography
4.2.1 Types of species found on islands
4.2.2 Endemism
4.2.3 Adaptive radiations
4.3 Ring Species
4.4 Specific examples
4.4.1 Distribution of Glossopteris
4.4.2 Distribution of marsupials
4.4.3 Migration, isolation, and distribution of the Camel
5 Evidence from observed natural selection
5.1 Specific examples of natural selection in the lab and in the field
5.1.1 Antibiotic and pesticide resistance
5.1.2 E. coli long-term evolution experiment
5.1.3 Humans
5.1.4 Lactose intolerance in humans
5.1.5 Nylon-eating bacteria
5.1.6 PCB tolerance
5.1.7 Peppered moth
5.1.8 Radiotrophic fungus
5.1.9 Urban wildlife
6 Evidence from observed speciation
6.1 Specific examples
6.1.1 Blackcap
6.1.2 Drosophila melanogaster
6.1.3 Hawthorn fly
6.1.4 London Underground mosquito
6.1.5 Madeira House Mouse
6.1.6 Mollies
6.1.7 Thale cress
6.2 Interspecies fertility or hybridization
6.2.1 Polar bear
6.2.2 Raphanobrassica
6.2.3 Salsify
6.2.4 Welsh groundsel
6.2.5 York groundsel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent

Evidence supporting creation

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[Flashheart]

Noah built the ark?

Why?

If god is all powerful why did he just not kill all the evil people and animals with a click of the finger? Why the need for a flood? Why kill so many innocent people/animals needlessly? What about the sea creatures? How did they get let off? (They would survive the flood?

How fucking enormous must that boat have been to float and support so many creatures? How did they feed the inhabitants? How did they stop them from eating/killing each other? How was the shit and pissed dealt with? How did they avoid disease?

THINK

[jayohaitchenn]

Not to mention all the animals that went on the Ark lived within walking distance of Noah's house.

[herthab]

Noah built the ark?

Why?

If god is all powerful why did he just not kill all the evil people and animals with a click of the finger? Why the need for a flood? Why kill so many innocent people/animals needlessly? What about the sea creatures? How did they get let off? (They would survive the flood?

How fucking enormous must that boat have been to float and support so many creatures? How did they feed the inhabitants? How did they stop them from eating/killing each other? How was the shit and pissed dealt with? How did they avoid disease?

THINK

All religious texts are written by Man. What is written neither proves, nor disproves the existence of a God. Most religious texts were written millennia ago, when people were less advanced and couldn't explain, scientifically, certain events. Obviously they got a lot of it wrong.
I treat The Bible as a series of stories, some having a basis in fact, but a lot pure fiction. Once again though, it doesn't prove to me that God doesn't exist.

If I believed in a God, I think I would be more inclined to believe that they created the means for Life, the Universe and Everything, then left it to evolve.

There you go, I've just explained creation and evolution, maybe I should start a new religion (Unless the above is already practised by an existing religion, in which case let me know who they are and I might join up).