Is our start really that bad?

[juddie]

Agree with all of the last few comments. Results don't lie, the start has been poor, poorer than any of us would have feared, but PDC is trying to do the right things behind the scenes.

We can't change what's happened and there have been signs of progress. We outplayed Oxford and City and Crewe/shrews for 45 mins. Opening half v crewe is explainable, Shrews can be put down to PDC error.

Dagenham poor but we would have taken a point had we held on, Cheltenham could have gone either way.

It's not dire, but the margin for what is acceptable and what isn't is very fine. The problem is, things aren't going our way and the longer that happens, the quicker rot sets in, as we found to our cost last season. That losing feeling has to be nipped in the bud.

Win Saturday and we can all breath a little easier, but Rotherham are gonna smell blood.

[mrverve]

It's been a bad start. However we need to give the manager and the players time. It's as simple as that.

[Muffin Man]

It's been a bad start. However we need to give the manager and the players time. It's as simple as that.

Indeed, we had a similar start under Macari in 85 when we won the league, if we had got rid of him then we would never have got 102 point that very same season.

A little time and hopefully we can do the same again glass half full.

[juddie]

And he will get time, no doubt. But, and it's a big but, there has to be something coming back in return for our/board's patience.

If September is a repeat of august the board will have no choice but to reconsider.

Here's hoping it won't come to that.

[flammableBen]

This sums it up pretty well

[juddie]

Not yet. It could be that it is, but if Paolo has anything about him this last week could be used to our advantage to unite everyone and come out on top at the weekend.

[Ardiles]

Indeed, we had a similar start under Macari in 85 when we won the league, if we had got rid of him then we would never have got 102 point that very same season.

A little time and hopefully we can do the same again glass half full.

Interesting to note that at the end of Aug 1985, our sequence in the league had been LLWD leaving us in 18th place.  The really bad run came the following month when we added the sequence WLLL - leaving us in 21st place after losing away at Hartlepool on Sept 28th 1985.  It was during October (WWWWL), November (WWWWL) and December (WWWW) that the turnaround started.  After that run, we finished 1985 in top, two points ahead of Chester.

All of which goes to show that PDC should be afforded not just a little more time, but quite a lot.  Hopefully, he won't need it though.

[Only Me]

Interesting to note that at the end of Aug 1985, our sequence in the league had been LLWD leaving us in 18th place.  The really bad run came the following month when we added the sequence WLLL - leaving us in 21st place after losing away at Hartlepool on Sept 28th 1985.  It was during October (WWWWL), November (WWWWL) and December (WWWW) that the turnaround started.  After that run, we finished 1985 in top, two points ahead of Chester.

All of which goes to show that PDC should be afforded not just a little more time, but quite a lot.  Hopefully, he won't need it though.

Agreed.

[Bewster]

Agreed.

I know we are all desperate for a turnaround in fortunes so remember when Ossie joined and we got stuff 4-0 at Elland Road - then we beat Wolves and that kick started our season.

[mrverve]

There's no patience in football nowadays. In our PO year in 03/04 we were mid table going nowhere at Christmas then we went on an unbeaten run for 3 months and shot up the league. Way to early to judge. We've got a squad capable this season.

[juddie]

A similar September to Lou Mac's would really test everybody's patience! But hopefully yes, wins will allay all of our fears. I would love Paolo to make a success of this - his squad is good enough and he's desperate to do well.

[Arriba]

I'm not sure the squad is good enough. I dont think Di canio is either(sure about the squad)

[joteddyred]

I now think there are more worrying signs than positive ones. This can be turned around,but with a side nowhere near complete i wont hold my breath.
The first choice forward wont play again and the tinkering so far has got us nowhere. Di canio will really prove if he has what it takes in the next few weeks

Totally agree with what Arriba has said.  Everything just seems one big mess at the moment and I don't feel at all positive at the moment.  The results and disappointment last season were bad enough, but at least the manager just appeared clueless.  This time we've got slightly physcotic thrown in and the whole of English football having a laugh at our expense.

It's a bad start no doubt about it and the other concern is current team morale.  I don't believe Clarke will be the last player who is shown the door.

[Foggy]

the whole of English football having a laugh at our expense.

Are you sure? Most football fans couldnt give a damn about it, this sort of thing happens week in week out all over the country, PDC is a high profile character and the media just wait for moments like this. Next week it will be someone else, time to move on me thinks. We can all speculate about team morale but unless you train with them everyday or play 90 minutes on a Saturday how the hell can people say that morale is effected?  Some players just cant cope with hard work, well if that is the case then bye, bye. Yes, i am a little concerned that we keep buying strikers but the players that he has let go havent exactly set the world on fire have they? Patience is a rare virtue nowadays, we all want instant results and success, give PDC some time. 

[mrverve]

Spot on Foggy.