Live 8

[Ben Wah Balls]

They had it on in the pub, robbie williams was appalling, why the fuck is that talentless cunt still around? Peter Kay was my highlight, the who were ok.

[Anonymous]

How about Mr. Blair does something about the hundreds of thousands of people who live on Britian's streets? Or do more about our British children that get bullied at school and beat at home. Or even get a grip and toughen up rules on paedophilia?

[Melksham Red]

Well said swindon away. Charity begins at home. We should sort the mess out in this country before worrying about others.

Even if the debt was cancelled, so what? Those African governments will still be corrupt as fuck and there will still be as many starving.

I wish Bono, Martin and that twat Geldof would just stop badgering us. Yes we are all now "aware" of whats going on. So fucking what, nothings gunna change.

I now await the barrage of abuse.

[sonicyouth]

30,000 people don't die on a daily basis in the UK.

Yes, this country has problems - we've got the infrastructure and capital to deal with them, we just don't have the government.

Third world debt prevents many African nations from getting themselves out of the situation they are in, what harm will cancelling that debt do us?

The point is that something so utterly simple and needless is killing millions of people, it's that simple. As I've already said, we may have problems in this country but they're a lot more difficult to deal with and pretty insignificant when you take into consideration the huge numbers of people who die on a daily basis across Africa.

Personally I feel guilty for being so apathetic for so long, I feel as if I should do something about it but there's little I can do to make a difference. However, if we all do something then those in power will have to take notice. That's what Live8 was about. To be honest if someone gave me the opportunity to go to Africa and help in some of the poorest nations tomorrow, I would and I'm practically agoraphobic.

[Spencer_White]

Anyone here had the misfortune to work with Nigerian migrants?

Because after that experience you will never wonder again why African governments are corrupt.

[McLovin]

Why don't the African nations just say 'fuck it' and not pay?  No one would punish them for it.

If they do get let off it, maybe they should think about spending all aid payments more sensibly next time.


Also, to stop AIDS, stop fucking around when you are bored.  Castration of little African kids would reduce AIDS and the population, thus meaning there is more food to go round.

[Amir]

30,000 people don't die on a daily basis in the UK.

Yes, this country has problems - we've got the infrastructure and capital to deal with them, we just don't have the government.

Third world debt prevents many African nations from getting themselves out of the situation they are in, what harm will cancelling that debt do us?

The point is that something so utterly simple and needless is killing millions of people, it's that simple. As I've already said, we may have problems in this country but they're a lot more difficult to deal with and pretty insignificant when you take into consideration the huge numbers of people who die on a daily basis across Africa.

Personally I feel guilty for being so apathetic for so long, I feel as if I should do something about it but there's little I can do to make a difference. However, if we all do something then those in power will have to take notice. That's what Live8 was about. To be honest if someone gave me the opportunity to go to Africa and help in some of the poorest nations tomorrow, I would and I'm practically agoraphobic.

Africa's three main problems are:

1. Debt
2. Crazy cunt leaders
3. Subsidies and tariffs on agricultural products in western countries.


The first is slowly being sorted, and the link to the running of countries can only be beneficial to the second problem, although that can only really be sorted by a sronger and more prosperous Africa.  

The third problem is very complex as nations like to be self-sufficient when is comes to food production in case of war, but this is Africa's only real economy apart from blood stained diamonds and oil.  Sadly I feel this is our biggest opportunity to help, and the least likely to happen in an effective way.

[Anonymous]

So hangbout, let's give them money let they will only end up using buying weapons to use against us when America decides that Africa is next on their list as they feel they have the right to "police the world".

Admittedly it is terrible but maybe people should protest like this about their own country. How about the 22,000 British oap's that froze to death last year because they couldn't afford central heating?

Not even the English care for our country anymore.

Oh and by the way it wasn't us that asked for our independance

[Tails]

Gervais and Kay were funny, but apart from that it wasn't a very good night. Pink Floyd were class, especially as they all hate each other. Snow Patrol and Keane were good too.

[Amir]

Oh and by the way it wasn't us that asked for our independance

Too right ! Bring back Danelaw :twisted:

[sonicyouth]

Anyone here had the misfortune to work with Nigerian migrants?

Because after that experience you will never wonder again why African governments are corrupt.

I presume that every Nigerian is exactly the same then. Do you vote BNP per chance?

Also, to stop AIDS, stop fucking around when you are bored. Castration of little African kids would reduce AIDS and the population, thus meaning there is more food to go round.

I'm hoping that was supposed to be ironic.

The third problem is very complex as nations like to be self-sufficient when is comes to food production in case of war, but this is Africa's only real economy apart from blood stained diamonds and oil. Sadly I feel this is our biggest opportunity to help, and the least likely to happen in an effective way.

I think it's more a case of them becoming more self-sufficient anyway, reducing their need to rely on aid. Whilst they are crippled with debt they are not in the position to solve this by themselves. So why not drop the debt?

So hangbout, let's give them money let they will only end up using buying weapons to use against us when America decides that Africa is next on their list as they feel they have the right to "police the world".

Admittedly it is terrible but maybe people should protest like this about their own country. How about the 22,000 British oap's that froze to death last year because they couldn't afford central heating?

Not even the English care for our country anymore.

America is not the world, anyway Bush won't attack Africa because there's no oil to be gained from it. As Amir said, resolving the poverty issue will reduce the corruption in government, once that's gone then the money will be spent properly but cancelling the third world debt is the first step.

22,000 in a year is absolutely terrible, but we're talking 30,000 every single day. I do care about England but I've got a sense of perspective as well.

[sonicyouth]

I'm starting to tire of this country and it's residents, I'm going to swim to Ireland.

[Amir]

I presume that every Nigerian is exactly the same then. Do you vote BNP per chance?

That's harsh on Spencer.  There is a nack amongst the Nigerian people to scam.  That doesn't mean it's all of them, and the fact that their country has been one of the most corrupt in the world probably has something to do with it.  It's the same as saying British people are whingers

I think it's more a case of them becoming more self-sufficient anyway, reducing their need to rely on aid. Whilst they are crippled with debt they are not in the position to solve this by themselves. So why not drop the debt?

Of course drop the debt, but I don't see that as the most important issue.  The only way to save Africa is through trade, their strength economically is that the can produce cheap food.  They don't have the means of production for anything else in most places.  The more prosperous and educated people are the less likely they are to be run by a mad man(this is set out through history and is visible today in parts of the middle east although I'm not saying they've got the ascendancy).  Also, money from farming is a lot less likely to end up in the hands of a dictator, than money from oil/jewels.

[sonicyouth]

Agreed, but how can they start building up their own farm and livestock when they're crippled with debt?

[Amir]

The government is crippled with debt, not farmers, or not essentially because of the debt anyway.  As I said, debt should be dropped(and linked to reforms), but it is only the starting point.