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« Reply #585 on: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 22:54:26 »

If they were that bad before then why the fuck were they allowed in?

Also what they did beforehand i.e. off the site of the stadium is irrelevant to the reasons why they were ejected. Though it turned out to probably be the reason they were picked on [going by the second-hand accounts on here, I wasn't at the game].
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« Reply #586 on: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 22:57:31 »

If they were that bad before then why the fuck were they allowed in?

Also what they did beforehand i.e. off the site of the stadium is irrelevant to the reasons why they were ejected. Though it turned out to probably be the reason they were picked on [going by the second-hand accounts on here, I wasn't at the game].


I'm sure most of the incidents occured in some format, but it's a very one sided account. I witnessed the hooha with the lad with the white jumper getting thrown out, and it certainly doesn't mention a steward winding him up by swearing at him and then legging it under advice from the coppers.
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« Reply #587 on: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 23:02:02 »

But to come in pissed on a child ticket - you may as well walk yourself out straight after kick off.  Even an innocent stumble up a step will see you escorted off the premises.

Not defending stewards, they are nearly all useless (one at Mk and one at Millwall aside).
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« Reply #588 on: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 23:03:44 »

Do the people in this 'group' not see the whole incedent as a waste of money? Granted stewards can be 'token' but surely follow the town for the football. If you want to flirt with the stewards and the police do it outside the ground for free....
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« Reply #589 on: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 23:09:10 »

But to come in pissed on a child ticket.

Reminds me of the time years ago when I was working in a local night club. Group of girls came in with a couple of bags and said they were birthday presents for one of them, so the bouncers had a look and pulled out a birthday card that said "happy 16th birthday". On account of it making them laugh they still let them in.
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« Reply #590 on: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 20:02:34 »

I think that gives you an answer. They were targeted on the advice of Police for what happened outside the ground.

Obscene gesturing is something they dont bother following up with a big following.

My advice to any younguns is to get away with child tickets at away matches for as long as possible!
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« Reply #591 on: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 09:18:32 »

How long through the football league show are our highlights? I can't be fucked watching the whole thing.
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« Reply #592 on: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 09:23:51 »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/9338428.stm
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« Reply #593 on: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 09:45:24 »

Yeah I've watched that, Si Pie mentioned some extended highlights.
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« Reply #594 on: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 09:49:37 »

The extended highlights are on STFC Player on the club website i believe.
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« Reply #595 on: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 09:56:18 »

Ta.
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« Reply #596 on: Friday, January 7, 2011, 15:03:41 »

i complained bout this and got this responce
Dear Mr Burrows

Thank you for your E mail.

These are the facts regarding the incidents in The Jimmy Seed Stand at last nights match. If, after reading this, you wish to take this complaint to 'higher authority', then please feel free to do so.

All 8 ejections were recorded on CCTV.
One of the persons ejected was arrested for a public order offence. That person had, in February 2010, only just finished a 3 year Football Banning Order.

A group of around 15 Swindon fans had been identified by CO 11 at 13.00 causing problems in Central London. Our local Police were notfiied and went to meet them. The group came to The Valley before the South Stand box office had opened. They then went to our West Stand box office and a confrontation took place with some Charlton fans.

Following this they went to the Antigalician public house and later attempted to enter the Conservative Club, where Charlton Athletic supporters meet. They were prevented from entering in the interests of public safety. When they arrived at The Valley, before entering they were given a warning by Police Officers about their behaviour. They were very rowdy.

Once inside the Jimmy Seed Stand they came to the front of the stand and seemed intent on making obscene gestures. I sent a security team to give them a warning and ask them to 'tone it down'. After issuing the warning, the security team started to walk away. I observed some of these youths continue to gesture, this time at our security team. I then instructed them to eject the worst perpetrator. I had hoped that this would act as a deterrent. However, some members of this group continued with their gestures. I then decided to eject one more from this group, at the opposite end of the row from the first one, this seemed to have the desired effect.

After about another 5 minutes had passed, I observed one member of the group leave the seating area and walk down to the pitch gate. He appeared to be remonstrating with the pitch gate steward.

I asked the South Stand Supervisor to investigate. She reported that the supporter was extremely drunk, but she persuaded him to return to his seat. He had been 'having a go' at the pitch gate steward regarding the ejections. Unfortunately, the man in question, although he had returned to his seat, just stood shouting to the pitch gate steward. A decision was taken to eject him. As our security team approached from pitch side, the man who was later arrested, stepped forward and physically tried to prevent our staff from getting to the drunk and abusive supporter. This resulted in our security team having to restrain this man and whilst escorting him up the aisle another man tried to prevent the ejection taking place and he also was ejected and handed over to Police Officers.

At half time, some of the remaining members of this group wanted to argue with the stewards regarding the ejections. Some of this group were drinking alcohol, though it is believed that they bought junior tickets. When one of our security stewards asked one of this group to see his ticket, the reply was 'fuck off you cunt, your all cunts'. Whilst this youth was ejected, another tried to intervene and was also ejected.

I believe that a bank holiday with a late kick off, gave this group of youngsters the opportunity to drink alcohol through out the day and this was a major factor in the poor behaviour of this small minority of visiting supporters.

All of the above incidents were recorded on CCTV and all ejections were observed by Police Officers who were extremely complimentary about the way our security stewards carried out their duties.

Regards,

John Little
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Charlton Athletic Football Club

I take it the group of lads spoke about are the ones in this video - the Swindon 'Under 5's' 



I want to know why they have coloured out their faces on the last image in the video (minute 1.46) - it's on the official website for all too see!
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« Reply #597 on: Friday, January 7, 2011, 15:54:57 »

Fair play in the most part, they are passionate and travel to support, more than can be said for a lot of our fans.
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« Reply #598 on: Friday, January 7, 2011, 16:54:12 »

Good bunch of lads.

To clear up the acusations, it wasn't any of them who went in on a junior ticket, only to my knowledge only 1, maybe 2 of them were kicked out.
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« Reply #599 on: Friday, January 7, 2011, 17:00:36 »

I look like that after squash!!
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