The Music Industry

[Bob's Orange]

If you think back to the 60s and 70s (and even further back) you could make a list of exceptional talented singer songwriters, and bands. The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, you could go on and on.

In say 50 years, are the youth of today going to look back with fond memories of Justin Bieber and Michelle McManus and the rest of automatic millionaire X Factor Winners?

Of course the answer is no. Where did it all go wrong?

[Gethimout]

If you think back to the 60s and 70s (and even further back) you could make a list of exceptional talented singer songwriters, and bands. The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, you could go on and on.

In say 50 years, are the youth of today going to look back with fond memories of Justin Bieber and Michelle McManus and the rest of automatic millionaire X Factor Winners?

Of course the answer is no. Where did it all go wrong?

SIMON COWELL

[Samdy Gray]

Where did it all go wrong?

When record labels started manufacturing bands. The zombie like public swallowed it hook, line and sinker and now wouldn't know true musical talent if it smacked them around the face.

[chalkies_shorts]

Manufactured bands are nothing new - The Monkees were one.

[Simon Pieman]

I think there has always been an element of manufactured bands etc. There were exceptional bands in the 80s and 90s and still are today  - though I think the dominance of certain styles of 'music' keeps these out of the limelight.

[Bob's Orange]

I think there has always been an element of manufactured bands etc. There were exceptional bands in the 80s and 90s and still are today  - though I think the dominance of certain styles of 'music' keeps these out of the limelight.

I think that is fair. I forgot my Ipod the other day and had to listen to the radio. Unfortunately Mika came on and I decided that silence was golden!

[adje]

Manufactured bands are nothing new - The Monkees were one.

....and the Sex Pistols

[Peter Venkman]

When you take Robert Rafelson and Bert Schneider (Monkees) with Malcolm Maclaren (Sex Pistols) and then Stock Aitken and Waterman then you have a recipe for music manufacture that even Simon Cowell would be jealous of.

[Saxondale]

There is shit in every era.  You may have to look harder for the quality these days but thats because the media perpetuating the shit is so all pervasive.

Make the effort and you can find brilliant songwriting and brilliant musicianships even in the era of cowell, bieber etc etc.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Alot went wrong when people starting looking down their noses at people who are not squeeky clean.

[Batch]

Talking of Bieber

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Isn't it tradition for the previous generation to moan about what the current generation call music.

I mean look at the difference in trends: from 60s love and peace hippy fest->70's punk rebellion->80's lame/new romantic/electro/pill popping -> 90s Britpop->2000's whatever.

That said I don't think I'll ever "get" going to a gig to see somebody mime because they are too busy dancing to sing. Or not play their own instruments. Or whatever. 

[bngibbs]

In the 60's, there was a considerable amount of talent, brought together (mostly by drugs) that could have cared less whether or not the public liked them.  In the 70's, bands continued the tradition, but worked to achieve commercial success (thus, disco).  It wasn't until the 80's that money became the motivation to make music.  The talent has been diluted by money.

[leefer]

In the 60's, there was a considerable amount of talent, brought together (mostly by drugs) that could have cared less whether or not the public liked them.  In the 70's, bands continued the tradition, but worked to achieve commercial success (thus, disco).  It wasn't until the 80's that money became the motivation to make music.  The talent has been diluted by money.

Diluted Peoples you could say

[Arriba]

dunno about anyone else? but the shit modern day music(and boy is it shit) just gives me the chance to go back in time and discover the real gems that passed me by when i was younger.

[leefer]

There is plenty of good music around arriba.....just not in the charts so us older fuckwits dont hear/see it......a lot of the old stuff is shit................we think it is good because it reminds us of happy/funny times.