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« Reply #75 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 09:51:43 »

This is the post that best reflects my views.  Danny Wilson is the best manager we've had in years.  He took us to Wembley 6 months ago.  Since then, it's gone backwards and he, like us, will know the reasons why.

If we are worth anything as fans, we'll give him a little more time to sort things out.  Otherwise, what's the message?  We demand loyalty of our players, loyalty of our manager.  And when the going gets tough...show no loyalty what ever ourselves.  Need to be clever about this.  We're probably not going to mount a promotion challenge this season...and that's a shame.  But in my view, the man best placed to put together a challenge for 2011/12 is Danny Wilson.


Excellent post! This perception that all clubs need instant success and promotion is surely at least partially to blame for the numerous clubs almost going down the drain which has suddenly become "common place" in English football...

"We're probably not going to mount a promotion challenge this season...and that's a shame.  But in my view, the man best placed to put together a challenge for 2011/12 is Danny Wilson.".

Could anyone already have forgotten that only 5 years ago, Kingy was in his 4th season for us and we worried about administration (yet again!) as we couldn't afford to pay 1/2 million pound tax bills or whatever it was?

If I were Fitton, I wouldn't even dream of sacking Wilson at this moment in time! I'm quite positive that Danny and Andrew speak about the team problems frequently. AF doesn't strike me as a "hands off" silent partner at all.

This club is a business first, and expecting instant success on the field cannot undermine that, under any circumstances.


This will naturally mean that Danny's hands are tied on certain things (do you honestly think DW would 'choose' to get rid of Greer, or Cox etc?). It may take another couple of seasons after this to mount a serious promotion challenge (I hope not, but it might!) but get behind the team.

It won't be too many years, before we're watching Championship football and moaning about the board and manager being responsible for us not being in the Prem etc! ;-)
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« Reply #76 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 09:54:00 »

For a while now DW says the same things after games. Which is along the lines of " when you are going with young players you will have to expect inconsistancy".  It sounds to me like there is no money from the board to change things.
Fans from day one of the season said we need to replace Paynter, Ward and Greer.  To be honest of the new signings in the summer only Prutton is now looking good.  Money was spent on Ferry and Caddis, and neither have done a things this season.  Thou we were all glad to get Ferry back.  Dossevi doesnt give you want Paynter did.  We dont hold the ball up like we did.  The ball comes back at our defence to fast and they arent up to it.  Promising individuals but there is no "Old head" there.

 Im not old enough to know about "Berts babes" but im told there were experianced proffesionals in that team who organised and helped the youngster in games.  We have this scouting network now dont we ?  What are they doing ?  At one time it was suggested we had this huge folder full of potential players we were keeing an eye on.  Yet when we needed to replace important players we lost in the summer we seem to struggle big time.

Surely Fitton must be thinking what is going on ?  The attendances will drop and unrest will cause some fans to turn on the manager.  Is he not getting Danny into his office to say, " its not working, how can i help you?  What do you need ?
Im not a DW fan,  i just cant take to him but thats me,  im a season ticket holder and i go to games whatever.  What annoys me more than anyhthing is getting beat by pathetic teams.  This leagues rubbish.  And the thought of charlie going in Janauary almost puts us back to square one again.
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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:03:04 »

On a more practical note, although I was never completely convinced by the idea of Wilson as our manager, I'm not sure that sacking him now would really serve much purpose.

Realistically, could someone else coming in fresh take us to the play-offs this season? If not we might as well stick with what we've got and see how well Wilson can turn it around before the summer.

In the long term though I'm not sure about him. Bristol City stuck with him for the 4 years of his contract and he took them nowhere.

I've just got the feeling he might be a bit of a one note manager, good at establishing the basics of running a club, his scouting network and coaching team, but without the ability to adapt and change.

I haven't the first clue of who I'd want as a replacement, biut I think the days of giving the first management opportunity to a top class player, might be gone.

If you think back to the days when Ardiles was prepared to come here and then think of the modern equivalent, can anyone seriously imagine Lionel Messi pitching up at the County Ground in 10 years time?
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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:18:36 »

Been thinking about a possible successor, there are some ideal replacements out there should Mr Wilson be handed his p45:

Paul Trollope: Could we tempt the 'Swindon' fan to manage his boyhood team?

John Sheridan: Did incredibly well with Oldham when he was with them, and in his final season was in the playoffs the majority of the season until murdering psycho got into a brawl with him at the racetracks, which resulted in Sheridan leaving, now working wonders with Chesterfield.

Steve Tilson: Did well in this league with Southend, only just joined Lincoln, but the lure of League One may tempt him

Jim Magilton:Has Pox connections, but had Ipswich in top half every year and was doing well until 'that' incident with Buzsaky which resulted in Magilton going

Dean Holdsworth: The next Paul Tisdale? did a cracking job at Newport last year by getting them promoted in March, and now 4th in BSP

Paul Sturrock: I would hate for him to come back and know it will get shot down, but Fitton had an infatuation with this guy and had some man love towards him, Fitton might bring him back for all we know , which would just be a god darn awful decision, but you never know
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« Reply #79 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:20:26 »

None of those are credible.
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« Reply #80 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:22:43 »

Been thinking about a possible successor, there are some ideal replacements out there should Mr Wilson be handed his p45:

Paul Trollope: Could we tempt the 'Swindon' fan to manage his boyhood team?

John Sheridan: Did incredibly well with Oldham when he was with them, and in his final season was in the playoffs the majority of the season until murdering psycho got into a brawl with him at the racetracks, which resulted in Sheridan leaving, now working wonders with Chesterfield.

Steve Tilson: Did well in this league with Southend, only just joined Lincoln, but the lure of League One may tempt him

Jim Magilton:Has Pox connections, but had Ipswich in top half every year and was doing well until 'that' incident with Buzsaky which resulted in Magilton going

Dean Holdsworth: The next Paul Tisdale? did a cracking job at Newport last year by getting them promoted in March, and now 4th in BSP

Paul Sturrock: I would hate for him to come back and know it will get shot down, but Fitton had an infatuation with this guy and had some man love towards him, Fitton might bring him back for all we know , which would just be a god darn awful decision, but you never know

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

What a truely fucking terrifying list! This is a bit of reverse psychology to persuade us to stick with Wilson right?
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flammableBen

« Reply #81 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:25:36 »

Tisdale.
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« Reply #82 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:26:40 »

Haha Ryan Giggs! What the f*ck?

I got one.............. Gary Neville?

Wilson will learn from his mistakes, he's here for atleast another year.
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Lumps

« Reply #83 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:31:41 »

Tisdale.

I was just thinking of who might be contenders and his name occured to me as well. Either him or Gary Waddock, who I always liked as a player.
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phelpsieboy

« Reply #84 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:34:35 »

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

What a truely fucking terrifying list! This is a bit of reverse psychology to persuade us to stick
 with Wilson right?

You said it, after looking at possible replacements and that shocking list,I  am now for Wilson staying, there's no one out there who can does a just as good job Sad 
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phelpsieboy

« Reply #85 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:37:59 »

Tisdale.

Surely with the tables as they are, we are now a backwards step? even though it hurts to say it , he turned down Southampton before to
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flammableBen

« Reply #86 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:39:34 »

Yeah, I think we might haev missed the tisdale chance. Should have appointed him instead of Wilson.
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Lumps

« Reply #87 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:47:31 »

Surely with the tables as they are, we are now a backwards step? even though it hurts to say it , he turned down Southampton before to

Not really. He's had to put that team together on free transfers (except for one £50k fee) and realise a profit on transfers every season. If you compare the resources available at Exeter to what he might have at Town, and the size of the support, and the set up, it's a step up.
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phelpsieboy

« Reply #88 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:53:36 »

Not really. He's had to put that team together on free transfers (except for one £50k fee) and realise a profit on transfers every season. If you compare the resources available at Exeter to what he might have at Town, and the size of the support, and the set up, it's a step up.

Wise words, hopefully with Fittons smart talking of getting us some big deals, like sponsorships for example, hopefully he can talk Tisdale into coming here, plus we then get to have the Fashion Icon of the football league Wink
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« Reply #89 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:53:49 »

Ok so we sack Wilson 6 months after taking us to Wembley. Last season was memorable for so many reasons, Regardless who is here, we need a CB I am sure Danny Wilson is well aware of this fact and is working to address this. Not sure who else I would want apart from maybe Pardew even if Wilson did go. I think it would be a massive step back to sack Wilson. He has a proven record as this level and I am sure come January the signings will come, Who is to say Frampton still is not the answer if he gets fit?
Right then so based on your argument even if we got relegated this season because he got us to the play-offs last season he should keep his job?

Since Colchester last season when our form tailed off if you solely look at normal league games it's 6 wins out of the last 24 and that is relegation form no doubt about it!

Last season means nothing now as if we get relegated that would make Fitton's 5 year plan completely impossible and we'll have actually gone backwards in footballing terms compared to when Fitton took over and I can't see him standing for that so I can't see Wilson getting much longer....
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