Paranormal Activity

[BANGKOK RED]

Bloody hell, I'm agreeing with TT. In my view its all bollocks but for those who believe in it, fair enough.

You put them all into the same basket way too easily.

[flammableBen]

If ghosts exist why has nobody harnessed them as sex toys?

[chalkies_shorts]

You put them all into the same basket way too easily.

All unproven. I'll also put goblins, elves, decent Scummers etc in the same bracket.

[flammableBen]

goblins exist. I can prove it.

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,6374.0.html

[BANGKOK RED]

All unproven. I'll also put goblins, elves, decent Scummers etc in the same bracket.

There is absolutely no reason for UFO's not to exist, none whatsoever. In fact it is mathematically almost impossible for them to not exist. There may not be proof yet, but their existence is extremely highly probable. Discovering aliens is no different to finding a new species in the Amazon. UFO's do not belong in that list.

Another odd one out is religion. The reason being that there is so much evidence showing that religion has got it all wrong.

Life after death, nobody can know for sure. Including yourself.

[Bogus Dave]

What if we don't exist?

[normy]

If you've studied it for 25 years and have books that only indicate that there could be paranormal activity then that's not proof.

I didn't say it was proof. I said indicated, which means that the people who wrote the accounts were convinced it was real and paranormal. Proof is difficult to define. As I said. I "proved" to myself that the paranormal is real, because the table tilting we did was not explained by the known laws of physics. It does not prove it to anyone else I speak to. And if you did it yourself, and you saw what I saw, would you dismiss it because it was impossible, even if you could not come up with a mundane explanation?

[LucienSanchez]

UFO's, by their very definition, exist.

[flammableBen]

I once had a medium spirit dude tell me how amazing he was because he'd just told a lady that she had an elderly relative who'd had arthritis.

[BANGKOK RED]

Proof is difficult to define.

No it isn't!

[normy]

No he didn't.

Asides from the fact that I have read a thing or two about Crookes, you are preaching to an audience who have access to google.

Prove me wrong.

You know very well I cannot prove you wrong. I don't preach, and I have access to Google as well.
Neither of us were around at the time to question the accounts of what happened. I choose to believe what I read from Doyle and other accounts that it was genuine. I presume you are referring to an unproven allegation that Crookes was having an affair with the medium, Florence Cook, which made him a cheat. You are entitled to your own belief, as I am to mine.

[flammableBen]

I'll be open to believe in anything when somebody can show me a repeatable experiment giving predictable results.

Until then I'll stick with the idea that all the spiritualism stuff is just a way for menopausal ladies to feel better about their empty lives, which is fine if it makes them happy.

[@MacPhlea]

I was on holiday in Greece one year sat in the garden of the villa watching meteorites when I saw a satellite (slow moving and bright) and waiting for it to slowly disappear (as they travelling beyond the reflection of the suns ray) but as it got directly above us it suddenly changed direction 90 degrees and shot off into the distance at a speed that must have been at least 10 times faster... totally freaky moment as it was way to high to be a plane and it's speed meant it was out of sight with about half a second...  It was one of those moments when we all looked at each other and just went 'What the fuck...'

[BANGKOK RED]

I presume you are referring to an unproven allegation that Crookes was having an affair with the medium, Florence Cook, which made him a cheat.

Nope.

I am referring to the FACT that what Cookes thought were apparitions of sorts were simply scientific phenomena.

Just because you choose to believe something does not make it proof. Don't try to redefine 'proof'. And if you are stating something as fact I.E: "Cookes proved it", then you are preaching.

You are going on blind faith pal, do you read the bible as well?

[Talk Talk]

The real physical universe is composed of matter and energy. If that is the case then you can detect and measure both of them. Objects or forces (the application of energy) do not materialise out of nothing and neither do they disappear into thin air. We all know this from our everyday experience.

This is all about truth. Truth is reality. The burden of proof lies with the person who proposes a theory. I refer you back to my invisible spider sat on my head post. I can rant and rave about how much I BELIEVE that it is there, but until I can prove with physical evidence in the form of detection or measurement then I have no right to insist that anybody else should agree with me.

Wobbly tables lifted up by the knees of conmen in darkened rooms, half awake dream residue ghosts, lights in the sky and fairies at the bottom of the garden can either be physically real or not. If they are then there is a rational real explanation. If not then they must be in the individual's mind.

The truth hurts and people do not like having their delusions blown away. If you can't handle it then I suggest that you seek professional mental help.