Missing people

[DV]

Same person behind both isn't it or not?

Pretty certain it isnt.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

I didn't join the RIP Sian or the "Swindons angel" group and now unfollowed the Twitter page
It's all got a bit much - i agree with DV it's time to start grieving & moving on now
I noticed all the flowers etc have gone from SUJU now - must be difficult disision but guess they have got a business to run
What's the need to walk through the town?? What will it achieve? Apart from maybe praise for the person that arranged it???

[DV]

the family donated all the flowers to care homes.

Sian's mother has spoken to the adver.

There is nothing more any of us can do for them.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

I quite agree

[Rustle]

I didn't join the RIP Sian or the "Swindons angel" group and now unfollowed the Twitter page
It's all got a bit much - i agree with DV it's time to start grieving & moving on now
I noticed all the flowers etc have gone from SUJU now - must be difficult disision but guess they have got a business to run
What's the need to walk through the town?? What will it achieve? Apart from maybe praise for the person that arranged it???

It's to celebrate her life and it's been organised by the boyfriends best mate as far as im lead to believe, I guess it's the sense of such a loss and they are more than likely looking at ways to help them come to terms and grieve etc.

[jimmy_onions]

Just had a quick shufty at the fb r.i.p page, oh dear what a fucking mess.

What could/should have been a simple online book of condolences as it were, has just become a gaggle of pre-pubescant girls trying to out do each other with their platitudes and respects, coupled with egotistical infighting, not to mention a very sad insight into the state of grammar in this day and age.

As arriba said, the lanterns was a fine and fitting tribute and it should have been left there...sadly not.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Are some of you not doing the same thing by continuing this thread by bitching about it?

As you have all said time to leave it.

[Arriba]

Are some of you not doing the same thing by continuing this thread by bitching about it?

As you have all said time to leave it.

nobody on here is bitching.
take your point though.

[tj2002]

not to mention a very sad insight into the state of grammar in this day and age.

As arriba said, the lanterns was a fine and fitting tribute and it should have been left there...sadly not.

The lanterns were a fitting tribute, were....


Couldn't resist, sorry!

[jimmy_onions]

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The lanterns were a fitting tribute, were....


Couldn't resist, sorry!

Ha! writing something like that re grammar, it was only a matter of time...

(but then you could argue that I was using the 'lanterns' to describe the event)

[Highland Robin]

I take what DRS said about needing to move on from this thread, and agree.  But I am really interested in the discussion, not in the personal stuff about Sian and the other victim, and the perpetrator and his family, which does need to stop to allow those most deeply affected to deal with what they have to deal with, but rather in the phenomenon of public reaction to tragedy which has been developing very significantly over twenty years or more, and became particularly focussed in the reaction to Princess Diana's death.  In this case, of course, it has been both very negative violent stuff outside the court (which we see more and more in these high profile cases, but, as JFW I think said, not in 99% of murder cases) and in the outpouring of grief (which may be a legitimate expression of community fear), which then veers towards a quite mawkish and emotional over-reaction from people who are not, in a personal sense, affected by the tragedy.  Whatever Arriba (and others) may think about Christianity, even today many, many people still look to religious institutions to assist and support the grief process through ritual (whether or not they have any sort of faith). But I reckon that these OTT expressions of emotion may reflect something really quite important about the need for a ritual that genuinely allows the expression of what people are feeling deep down.  (Remember huge crowds used to gather for public executions, and other humiliations of criminals; and actually some of what people get from football crowds - especially where they become violent - may be expressing something of the 'pack instinct' of human beings.)  We readily see how easily crowds of people can be manipulated by 'charismatic' leaders, in political and religious contexts - and Twitter and Facebook maybe the modern way of doing that..... Is it OK?  Do we need these sorts of outlets for emotions? Or should we be more controlled, more rational about these big emotive issues and events?

Maybe a new thread could be started to continue this discussion to move it on from Sian's tragic story, but I would certainly be interested to read more of how people feel about this.

[BANGKOK RED]

Another religion thread, huzzah

Actually, when's the last time we had one?

[Highland Robin]

Absolutely not a religion thread..... I am not that bothered about what people think about religion.  I am bothered about what makes for healthy communities, and the way they/we deal with tragedy is a very important part of that.

[THE FLASH]

Absolutely not a religion thread..... I am not that bothered about what people think about religion.  I am bothered about what makes for healthy communities, and the way they/we deal with tragedy is a very important part of that.

Where have you been hiding??

[Highland Robin]

Eh??