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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 15:33:02 »

Cheers for the advice gents! Not sure what I'm gonna do... a new router would be ideal but I've been told virgin is a bit tempramental when it comes to using a non-OEM router. Hmmmmm

I setup Luci's ok, you just have to make sure you get a cable router modem not the one for adsl.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:21:49 »

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132429#

Yer ya go, £19.99 wireless DSL 4 port should do ya.
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 17:30:33 »

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132429#

Yer ya go, £19.99 wireless DSL 4 port should do ya.

That doesn't have a cable modem does it?
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 18:15:23 »

That doesn't have a cable modem does it?

No it doesn't, but it allows you to plug the virgin media modem into it
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 19:04:50 »

No it doesn't, but it allows you to plug the virgin media modem into it

Is it (the existing solution) just a modem then? Never seen one of their boxes, assumed it was a modem/router and so a switch would be cheaper.
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 19:23:33 »

i have a spare netgear router somewhere if youre interested leggett?
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 19:38:35 »

When I used to work in cabling we'd never recomemnd cat 5 over 20ft or so.

All depends on the run.
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 21:24:01 »

Jj, my sisters fella emailed her that very link earlier, so I've gone with that. Thanks chief Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 22:41:47 »

When I used to work in cabling we'd never recomemnd cat 5 over 20ft or so.

All depends on the run.

Not being clued up on such things, why?

I'd have thought that even with some interference/signal degradation, the cable route is still going to be more stable than a wireless connection and unless you're using 802.11n, faster than the most stable WiFi.

Of course that's not to say you're wrong, I'm just curious because I'm a geek and I like to know such trivial things.
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 22:47:16 »

Its just the data travel. Copper is more reliable than wireless obviously, but over such distance we've always advised fibre in cases over 25ft or so. Obviously not in a domestic sense, but i have known cat5 cables over a certain length to often fail after a few weeks. Most cat 5 pre-cabled are no longer sold over 5m nowadays. Very rare to get 15m especially.
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 22:55:57 »

My mate just got a reel of cat5 cable and the rj45 connectors straight on from Maplin (I think it was actually PC World but I have no idea if they still do this) and never had any problems.

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 22:57:41 »

you can buy reels of the stuff to make up you own cables, it would probably be fine domestically as it wouldn't carry much data. Its just a little slower over longer distances.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 09:41:21 »

I thought the standards say 10BaseT/100BaseT should be good up to 100m using cat 5. So I'm  a bit confused by Sippo too, though I am not saying he is wrong.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 17:57:02 »

You can use any length you want. In the past we've 'recommended' to people over a certain length that the speed/reliability of the cable will be more noticeable the longer you go. It also depends on the 'run' as said before. Copper can go around bends, 90 degree corners etc but the cable is likely to get damaged more...
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 17:57:49 »

Also the data can't go as far if it's uphill.
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