the Irish

[Bogus Dave]

The sooner we get out of the EU the better.

We'd be fucked if we did tbh. The only other alternative would be to join the united states, we wouldn't be able to cope economically on our own.

[Simon Pieman]

They dont want a referendum because we would have voted no....and then there would have been no lucrative euro Mps and no chance to fiddle the expenses!....oh and i hate the Germans because they make out 2 world wars didnt happen and the millions of jews who were gassed braught it on themselfs.

I don't think they do. I've always got the impression that the Germans are very aware of what happened during the second world war and it's something they have to learn throughout school etc.

It's a crime to do that in Germany.

[janaage]

Crime to do what?

[Simon Pieman]

Make out that millions of Jews that were gassed brought it on themselves.

[flammableBen]

The sooner we get out of the EU the better.

We'd be fucked if we did tbh. The only other alternative would be to join the united states, we wouldn't be able to cope economically on our own.

Sort of a point like this.

We're better off in the EU than we are out of it. But at the moment it's still a complete mess. I'd love Britain to embrace the EU with the view of improving it. Instead of our current political attitude of going along with it from a distance, whilst the public get fed the tabloid anti-eu nationalistic bollocks.

We'll be running out of chances to do the above, we'll soon be an irrelevant nation in the eyes of the world. Once that happens we don't want to be left as an individual nation fending for itself. The empire is long gone, the commonwealth means fuck all, and the only remaining evidence of our former global dominance is in deplomacy, and that power lessens by each year.

or something.

[flammableBen]

Also I predict an Arctic Oil Expedition War.

[pauld]

They dont want a referendum because we would have voted no....and then there would have been no lucrative euro Mps and no chance to fiddle the expenses!....oh and i hate the Germans because they make out 2 world wars didnt happen and the millions of jews who were gassed braught it on themselfs.

I don't think they do. I've always got the impression that the Germans are very aware of what happened during the second world war and it's something they have to learn throughout school etc.

It's a crime to do that in Germany.

And in point of fact the most prominent figurehead of Holocaust denial (and most recently jailed for it until the wussy Austrians let him out instead of leaving him to rot in his own faeces) is British. So do you hate the British now?

[herthab]

Germany is one of the most liberal countries I've ever been to, probably due to the events of The Holocaust.

Apart from a few knuckle dragging neo nazis, Germans are more well informed than most nationalities about what happened in the death camps, as it forms part of their educational syllabus (Or did).

Ask your average 12-16 year old in this country about it and they probably wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're on about.

[pumbaa]

Germany is one of the most liberal countries I've ever been to, probably due to the events of The Holocaust.

Apart from a few knuckle dragging neo nazis, Germans are more well informed than most nationalities about what happened in the death camps, as it forms part of their educational syllabus (Or did).

Ask your average 12-16 year old in this country about it and they probably wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're on about.

Frankly Herthab, asking most average 12-16 year olds in this country about anything is a waste of time, unless the subject matter involves drugs, fags, booze and sex.........

[herthab]

Germany is one of the most liberal countries I've ever been to, probably due to the events of The Holocaust.

Apart from a few knuckle dragging neo nazis, Germans are more well informed than most nationalities about what happened in the death camps, as it forms part of their educational syllabus (Or did).

Ask your average 12-16 year old in this country about it and they probably wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're on about.

Frankly Herthab, asking most average 12-16 year olds in this country about anything is a waste of time, unless the subject matter involves drugs, fags, booze and sex.........

All important things Coxy

[pumbaa]

Germany is one of the most liberal countries I've ever been to, probably due to the events of The Holocaust.

Apart from a few knuckle dragging neo nazis, Germans are more well informed than most nationalities about what happened in the death camps, as it forms part of their educational syllabus (Or did).

Ask your average 12-16 year old in this country about it and they probably wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're on about.

Frankly Herthab, asking most average 12-16 year olds in this country about anything is a waste of time, unless the subject matter involves drugs, fags, booze and sex.........

All important things Coxy

True, but I'm getting old........ :old:

[neville w]

Also I predict an Arctic Oil Expedition War.

That'd be a Cold War.

[tans]

They dont want a referendum because we would have voted no....and then there would have been no lucrative euro Mps and no chance to fiddle the expenses!....oh and i hate the Germans because they make out 2 world wars didnt happen and the millions of jews who were gassed braught it on themselfs.

I don't think they do. I've always got the impression that the Germans are very aware of what happened during the second world war and it's something they have to learn throughout school etc.

It's a crime to do that in Germany.

And in point of fact the most prominent figurehead of Holocaust denial (and most recently jailed for it until the wussy Austrians let him out instead of leaving him to rot in his own faeces) is British. So do you hate the British now?

Is that that Mosley cunt?

Not the F1 bloke, his dad?

[flammableBen]

Wasn't he just a nazi.

I think Pauld is refering to David Irving or whatever he's called.

[Gelbfüßler]

i hate the Germans because they make out 2 world wars didnt happen and the millions of jews who were gassed braught it on themselfs.

What 'Germans' have you been talking to?

You're more likely to find people in England who will claim that than you are in Germany.

Sorry to comment on this again after other people have but this sort of made-up claim really makes me angry, something like the Holocaust could easily have happened anywhere, like England.