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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 20:52:05 »

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I think their actually always have been two separate companies with little to do with each other; the american budweiser and the czech budweiser thing. I might be wrong though. It's one of the things where you get a lot of mixed up pub knowledge thrown in.

But either way, it's not the proper Spanish stuff anymore or won't be soon. I remember comparing the new one and the old one and the new one is much more light and fizzy in a fostery sort of way.


České Budějovice is now the name of the town, but when the Czechs were ruled by the Austrians it went by the German name of Budweis.  Given they were brewing beer in Budweis before Europeans discovered America, the question is why did the Americans call their 'beer' Budweiser.  There is no need.  They just stole a name that had nothing to do with them.  You are right in that the two companies are in no way related.  The Germans do not accept US Budweiser as original and they had to call it Anschleur-Busch (sp) Bud during the World Cup.  I think the Fins take a similar position (although without the World Cup, obviously).


A lot of the early US breweries wer owned by German immigrants.
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 20:55:29 »

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I think their actually always have been two separate companies with little to do with each other; the american budweiser and the czech budweiser thing. I might be wrong though. It's one of the things where you get a lot of mixed up pub knowledge thrown in.

But either way, it's not the proper Spanish stuff anymore or won't be soon. I remember comparing the new one and the old one and the new one is much more light and fizzy in a fostery sort of way.


České Budějovice is now the name of the town, but when the Czechs were ruled by the Austrians it went by the German name of Budweis.  Given they were brewing beer in Budweis before Europeans discovered America, the question is why did the Americans call their 'beer' Budweiser.  There is no need.  They just stole a name that had nothing to do with them.  You are right in that the two companies are in no way related.  The Germans do not accept US Budweiser as original and they had to call it Anschleur-Busch (sp) Bud during the World Cup.  I think the Fins take a similar position (although without the World Cup, obviously).


A lot of the early US breweries wer owned by German immigrants.


So why name your beer after a Czech city...why not a German one?  Dachauer sounds good...
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 21:04:45 »

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I think their actually always have been two separate companies with little to do with each other; the american budweiser and the czech budweiser thing. I might be wrong though. It's one of the things where you get a lot of mixed up pub knowledge thrown in.

But either way, it's not the proper Spanish stuff anymore or won't be soon. I remember comparing the new one and the old one and the new one is much more light and fizzy in a fostery sort of way.


České Budějovice is now the name of the town, but when the Czechs were ruled by the Austrians it went by the German name of Budweis.  Given they were brewing beer in Budweis before Europeans discovered America, the question is why did the Americans call their 'beer' Budweiser.  There is no need.  They just stole a name that had nothing to do with them.  You are right in that the two companies are in no way related.  The Germans do not accept US Budweiser as original and they had to call it Anschleur-Busch (sp) Bud during the World Cup.  I think the Fins take a similar position (although without the World Cup, obviously).


A lot of the early US breweries wer owned by German immigrants.


So why name your beer after a Czech city...why not a German one?  Dachauer sounds good...


German speaking province in the 19th century.

Sort of area Hitler was after.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 21:05:33 »

Dachauer? Was that brewed by the Dachau prison camp victims in the 40's?

For Germany have a Löwenbräu in a pub, and when you for it, pronounce it in German (lurrven broy) and see if they understand.

I think I might have a go at this, good excuse to sample some of the beers I wouldn't usually. Quality!
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 21:06:49 »

And Dachau is a tiny village north of Munich.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 21:09:10 »

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I think their actually always have been two separate companies with little to do with each other; the american budweiser and the czech budweiser thing. I might be wrong though. It's one of the things where you get a lot of mixed up pub knowledge thrown in.

But either way, it's not the proper Spanish stuff anymore or won't be soon. I remember comparing the new one and the old one and the new one is much more light and fizzy in a fostery sort of way.


České Budějovice is now the name of the town, but when the Czechs were ruled by the Austrians it went by the German name of Budweis.  Given they were brewing beer in Budweis before Europeans discovered America, the question is why did the Americans call their 'beer' Budweiser.  There is no need.  They just stole a name that had nothing to do with them.  You are right in that the two companies are in no way related.  The Germans do not accept US Budweiser as original and they had to call it Anschleur-Busch (sp) Bud during the World Cup.  I think the Fins take a similar position (although without the World Cup, obviously).


A lot of the early US breweries wer owned by German immigrants.


So why name your beer after a Czech city...why not a German one?  Dachauer sounds good...


German speaking province in the 19th century.

Sort of area Hitler was after.


Sort of area he got, I reckon.  Thanks, Neville.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 06:45:13 »

The main Swiss beers are Hürlimann, Feldschlosschen (not easy to say after you've had a few) and Cardinal, but I'd be quite surprised if you found any in the UK. Like most things, the Swiss tend to keep it for themselves.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 07:52:07 »

Löwenbräu
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But it must be straight from the tap and not the bottled rubbish there is over here
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 08:47:35 »

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The main Swiss beers are Hürlimann, Feldschlosschen (not easy to say after you've had a few) and Cardinal, but I'd be quite surprised if you found any in the UK. Like most things, the Swiss tend to keep it for themselves.


Quite how they are allowed to call Feldschlossen beer is beyond me; its like a weaker, sweeter, more pissy version of Budweiser. MIght as well just pour it straight down the urinal and cut out the middle man. Cardinal isn't too far behind it.   Hürlimann I don't really remember, probably not so easy to find where I was.  The Swiss do keep things to themsleves, and in most cases they are welcome to it.

In fact the only Swiss beers I could actually stomach would be ones from supermarket chains like "Denner top super discount blonde lager hell" or "Co-op Tell".  Calandar is a passable pint, was only 3quid a pint and found in my local, but in all honesty those attributes probably mean its French.

For Spain it has to be the old senorita beater, san miguel - although its not as good as it used to be 10 years ago when it was 6% and is now a bit poor
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 08:50:12 »

Austrian beer is always a bit warm, something about not having storage space in their cellars..

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:25:51 »

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As usual I will be trying to buy beers from as many of the competing nations as I can, so I can drink the beer of that nation when they are playing.  I know a few that I wantand wondered what the fine TEFfers would recommend.  Clearly I need to actually be able to buy the beer, so some choices that I've made so far are based on convenience.

Croatia - ??


This is indeed a good idea. Add me to the list of people stealing it.

I remember drinking Karlovacko Dark in Zagreb, which weren't bad. Not sure whether its gettable over here.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:48:27 »

Karlovacko Zimsko is the dark, apparently and the brewery is is owned by Heineken so there is some chance of it appearing over here. Although the dark is supposed to be a seasonal.

Sorry that is waaay too nerdy. I'm trying to write a feature on beer at the moment but that is going too far.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 12:04:47 »

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I think their actually always have been two separate companies with little to do with each other; the american budweiser and the czech budweiser thing. I might be wrong though. It's one of the things where you get a lot of mixed up pub knowledge thrown in.

But either way, it's not the proper Spanish stuff anymore or won't be soon. I remember comparing the new one and the old one and the new one is much more light and fizzy in a fostery sort of way.


České Budějovice is now the name of the town, but when the Czechs were ruled by the Austrians it went by the German name of Budweis.  Given they were brewing beer in Budweis before Europeans discovered America, the question is why did the Americans call their 'beer' Budweiser.  There is no need.  They just stole a name that had nothing to do with them.  You are right in that the two companies are in no way related.  The Germans do not accept US Budweiser as original and they had to call it Anschleur-Busch (sp) Bud during the World Cup.  I think the Fins take a similar position (although without the World Cup, obviously).


A lot of the early US breweries wer owned by German immigrants.


So why name your beer after a Czech city...why not a German one?  Dachauer sounds good...


German speaking province in the 19th century.

Sort of area Hitler was after.


Sort of area he got, I reckon.  Thanks, Neville.


   Sudetenland.....millions of  Germans were repatriated after the war...you can blame Nev for being puntastic...but it's a bit much holding him responsible for the annexation into the Reich of 3 million German speakers.
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 16:49:10 »

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There was something going on with Estrella Damn, like Budweiser had bought the rights to brew it in England (or elsewhere and import) it or something. Anyway, it made it more difficult for my dad to import the original proper stuff as this new one was different. Something like that I can't remember. San Miguel is a bit rubbish. There are a few nice ones. I just can't remember what they're called. Mahou or something?


I beg to differ, but yes there are other good Spanish lagers that have been mentioned.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 18:09:39 »

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The main Swiss beers are Hürlimann, Feldschlosschen (not easy to say after you've had a few) and Cardinal, but I'd be quite surprised if you found any in the UK. Like most things, the Swiss tend to keep it for themselves.


Quite how they are allowed to call Feldschlossen beer is beyond me; its like a weaker, sweeter, more pissy version of Budweiser. MIght as well just pour it straight down the urinal and cut out the middle man. Cardinal isn't too far behind it.   Hürlimann I don't really remember, probably not so easy to find where I was.  The Swiss do keep things to themsleves, and in most cases they are welcome to it.

In fact the only Swiss beers I could actually stomach would be ones from supermarket chains like "Denner top super discount blonde lager hell" or "Co-op Tell".  Calandar is a passable pint, was only 3quid a pint and found in my local, but in all honesty those attributes probably mean its French.

For Spain it has to be the old senorita beater, san miguel - although its not as good as it used to be 10 years ago when it was 6% and is now a bit poor


Got slaughtered on Hürlimann in the Sandorck pub in Farnham many, many moons ago.  Tried to play blues on a mates guitar...only to find out in the morning that it only had four strings...no wonder it didn't work Crying  Oops
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