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« Reply #23625 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 10:31:26 »

All our players are injured frequently because they aren't fit. Some may be prone, but it's been pretty obvious for 18 months that they aren't being managed well physically.
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« Reply #23626 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 10:42:18 »

All our players are injured frequently because they aren't fit. Some may be prone, but it's been pretty obvious for 18 months that they aren't being managed well physically.
Can't help but think some of it is down to training 2 or 3 days a week on a 3G pitch.  I don't care what people say from personal experience it is much harder on the body and joints than a decent grass pitch. Getting the training ground going on a full time basis remains key.
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« Reply #23627 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 10:50:16 »

Apparently Dagenham want 250 INCLUDING add ons for wassisface.

I could see us doing 150k + a few bits and bobs. Would he be worth it though or, more to the point, would Power think he's worth it.
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« Reply #23628 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 11:03:03 »

Apparently Dagenham want 250 INCLUDING add ons for wassisface.

I could see us doing 150k + a few bits and bobs. Would he be worth it though or, more to the point, would Power think he's worth it.

Depends how well he takes to L1 football, if he does an Austin, he will go for 6 figures, if he does a Benyon then he will be back where he was...... 150k is worth a gamble imho
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« Reply #23629 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 12:20:11 »

All our players are injured frequently because they aren't fit. Some may be prone, but it's been pretty obvious for 18 months that they aren't being managed well physically.

I have an issue with this. I am not denying they look unfit. Absolutely they do.

What gets me is they must have professional fitness coaches, physio and access to kinds of medical assessments that us mortals are unlikely to have. The experts must think they are fine fitness wise, rehabilitating correctly and so on.

Surely we don't ignore the experts, it would be against our own interests to do that.
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« Reply #23630 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 12:30:13 »

Do non-league players with without access to professional facilities and staff pull up with injuries all the time?
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« Reply #23631 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 12:49:19 »

Do non-league players with without access to professional facilities and staff pull up with injuries all the time?

Arsenal always have injuries, do they not have good health professionals?

I don't get your point TBH. Some health professionals are the issue?
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« Reply #23632 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 12:51:12 »

I have an issue with this. I am not denying they look unfit. Absolutely they do.

What gets me is they must have professional fitness coaches, physio and access to kinds of medical assessments that us mortals are unlikely to have. The experts must think they are fine fitness wise, rehabilitating correctly and so on.

Surely we don't ignore the experts, it would be against our own interests to do that.
I suppose it is the level those fitness coaches etc are at though that could be the issue. If we are paying peanuts for wages i can't imagine we pay out for top fitness coaches etc
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« Reply #23633 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 13:06:54 »

 When Harry Cousins was in charge of fitness we didn't get too many injuries. If you went down, he ran on with his bucket of ice water, stuck a sponge down your shorts and told you to run it off....ergo you tended not to go down.

John Trollope once broke his arm after about 360 games in a row...which did put him out for a bit, before coming back and missing about 30 odd of the next 400 games.

 Harry was definitely old school, he played 300 odd games for us, including one season with broken foot.....I don't think he'd have much time for Nathan and his problem.
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« Reply #23634 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 13:17:36 »


Surely we don't ignore the experts, it would be against our own interests to do that.

We live in a post expert society, we are just being one of the forward thinking clubs embracing this new approach.
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« Reply #23635 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 13:42:16 »

When Harry Cousins was in charge of fitness we didn't get too many injuries. If you went down, he ran on with his bucket of ice water, stuck a sponge down your shorts and told you to run it off....ergo you tended not to go down.

John Trollope once broke his arm after about 360 games in a row...which did put him out for a bit, before coming back and missing about 30 odd of the next 400 games.

 Harry was definitely old school, he played 300 odd games for us, including one season with broken foot.....I don't think he'd have much time for Nathan and his problem.

But we're now in the age of the squad, in my opinion it would be remiss for a player to play through injury and not be 100% on the pitch when another player can take his place. 

It's all well and good saying players used to play through the pain barrier and that they were real men etc. but it's just not responsible to do so anymore.
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« Reply #23636 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 15:20:00 »

All our players are injured frequently because they aren't fit. Some may be prone, but it's been pretty obvious for 18 months that they aren't being managed well physically.

In October LW was saying players have still not reached match fitness. I think this is a crucial point. Someone once said to me if your physically unfit, You not mentally fit which would explain the loss of concentration and focus.
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« Reply #23637 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 15:55:10 »

In October LW was saying players have still not reached match fitness. I think this is a crucial point. Someone once said to me if your physically unfit, You not mentally fit which would explain the loss of concentration and focus.

If they are not match fit by now they are never going to be, if fitness is an issue then something fundamentally wrong has happened, your coaches might not be tactically great, but if they cannot even get the players fit that is just rubbish.
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« Reply #23638 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 16:18:35 »

I used to play for a conference side and we were always told if your not fit by November when the pitches starting getting heavier you never would be. And with the comments LW made in October about players not being match fit well that is totally bad management and it does effect the mentality of the players particularly in the last period of the game.
When we had Di Canio as manager we had the fittest squad in the league - had the best defence and scored the most goals in all the leagues apart from Man United  - now we have the third worst defence in the league and cant score - our lot would be useless in a brothel.
Being fitter than the rest makes you mentally strong  were not fit and mentally weak.

I hope these new players give our players a boost and we start performing now and get up the league table.

Last season we lost 19 games all season this season weve lost 13 and really need to win 10 out of the remaining games to stay up as I believe Coventry will pull away from trouble and maybe one other. Its in our hands and the next four games are key for our season I believe.
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« Reply #23639 on: Thursday, January 12, 2017, 16:31:05 »

Who did you play for?
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