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« Reply #35685 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 11:49:45 »

Then again there's no guarantees Doyle will be at the level of Doyle next season.
This is my makor concern regarding Doyle signing on high wages, he wasn't the same player after coming back from Bradford, this could easily continue.
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« Reply #35686 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:10:36 »

Sunderland seem to think we’ll  pip them for Jerry Yates

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/sunderland-could-be-pipped-striker-target-jerry-yates-league-one-rivals-prepare-offer-2904087
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« Reply #35687 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:22:05 »

How the fucking fuck can Sunderland sign any new players with the wages they are commited to already?

If the wage cap comes in at the expected £2.5m then surely they must be 4 or 5 times over that already, what with paying Grigg an estimated £20k pw thats £1m out of the budget before any other player is taken into account!
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« Reply #35688 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:25:23 »

That’s why any cap must be brought in over a number of seasons - averaging £2.5m over, say, 3 years.

Or no cap at all.

Or police the wages/turnover ratio we have now and stop clubs circumventing it with points deduction.
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« Reply #35689 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:32:27 »

Surprise surprise, Sunderland totally against the cap.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sunderland-hit-out-efl-plans-18527916

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« Reply #35690 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:41:30 »

I agree with him tbh
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« Reply #35691 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:48:38 »

So, where’s all the excess money going to go if it isn’t spent on players? Owners’ arse pockets, that’s where.

Especially as seeing the entire non league structure will have no cap leaving the gate open for any bankrolled tinpot outfit to offer more in wages than L2 sides.

Get relegated from the Championship and you’re in the shit immediately. It’s farcical but it’s the owners who will vote on it.

But why is there no decision on this until 29 July? Clubs need to start recruiting now - but how can they without knowing if they’ll fall foul of a cap?
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« Reply #35692 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 12:56:01 »

I agree with him tbh
I think this is a knee jerk reaction by the league, the previous FFP/SCMP would have exactly the same effect if it was a. managed better by the EFL and point deductions put in place for clubs that break it and b. that there wasn't a sponsorship loophole allow what is in essence the breaking of the rules.

Yes I know its a legal loophole but it shouldnt be there, allowing clubs with a very small fanbase and actual football related income from being allowed to overspend on player wages turning clubs that were not much more than glorified pub teams (FGR, Crawley, Salford even Bournemouth etc) from buying a place in higher leagues.

If that FFP was adhered to based upon bums on seats and merchandise then this cap "probably" would not be needed.

Bigger clubs like Sunderland/Ipswich etc in L1 can afford to pay higher wages because they have a far higher income and large fanbase compared to clubs like Burton/Shrewsbury/Accrington/Rochdale/Fleetwood etc.

It shouldn't be a blanket wage cap.

Quite ironic really that Sunderland oppose the flat cap yet lots of their fans still wear them Smiley

This all happening while UEFA have relaxed the FFP rules due to Covid.
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« Reply #35693 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:16:23 »

This is my makor concern regarding Doyle signing on high wages, he wasn't the same player after coming back from Bradford, this could easily continue.

‘Then again there's no guarantees Doyle will be at the level of Doyle next season.‘

Agree with both of those comments. What I would add to Venks comment is there were still plenty of games to go for Doyle to get his mojo back, alas we’ll never know now if that could have transpired. At our level and with our financial clout we’ll always be a Cinderella Club losing or having to sell players for one reason or another.
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« Reply #35694 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:24:58 »

So, where’s all the excess money going to go if it isn’t spent on players? Owners’ arse pockets, that’s where.

Especially as seeing the entire non league structure will have no cap leaving the gate open for any bankrolled tinpot outfit to offer more in wages than L2 sides.

Get relegated from the Championship and you’re in the shit immediately. It’s farcical but it’s the owners who will vote on it.

But why is there no decision on this until 29 July? Clubs need to start recruiting now - but how can they without knowing if they’ll fall foul of a cap?
This is my concern, it needs to be a proper policed turnover cap. An arbitrary £2.5m cap is nonsense as if you get a team in the league with 20k+ crowds they will have £10m plus income so millions that are unable to be spent and the temptation for the more unscrupulous owners will be even more than it is now.
We’d get some advantage from it in League 1 but in league 2 we’d be fucked as we’d have the same spending power as every other club and lose some of the advantage we’ve had with turnover from our higher crowds and what not.
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« Reply #35695 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:31:54 »

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18562462.bolton-wanderers-set-swoop-swindon-striker-eoin-doyle/
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« Reply #35696 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:33:26 »

Hadn't really considered the Ian Evatt/Chesterfield link.

Doesn't look good but such is life.
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« Reply #35697 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:43:58 »

Hadn't really considered the Ian Evatt/Chesterfield link.

Doesn't look good but such is life.
Big risk for him if it’s just for Evatt, gotta be a good chance of him being sacked by Christmas.
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« Reply #35698 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 13:55:48 »

Bolton haven’t be able to sign anyone much for a few seasons now. Their points deduction last season made it pointless spending much on their squad. So they’ve probably built up a decent war chest in the crowds they’ve got.
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« Reply #35699 on: Sunday, July 5, 2020, 14:00:02 »

Big risk for him if it’s just for Evatt, gotta be a good chance of him being sacked by Christmas.

Nope. His contract would continue after that!

...and we all know that it wouldn't be 'just' for Evatt.
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