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lebowski

« on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 17:58:41 »

is that game over for the consortium?
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 17:59:12 »

Dunno, ask Bill
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lebowski

« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:02:25 »

ok.

Bill, quick question...
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:04:35 »

Not neccesarily game over, after all Bill will own 23% of the holding company (or 33% depending on which source you believe).
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:09:02 »

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Not neccesarily game over, after all Bill will own 23% of the holding company (or 33% depending on which source you believe).


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Which is worth exactly how much ?
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:12:32 »

Pretty much the same as my 1 share in the football club (assuming I have 1). Same worth sterling value, same voting rights value.
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lebowski

« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:12:34 »

that's what i thought fred!
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 18:21:15 »

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that's what i thought fred!


Its a state of tangible impasse at the moment, and a lot more will unravel over the next few weeks I am sure.

I would like to see some hard evidence from the club why they think it is a share option, as they have already offered "derisory" amounts to repay. Why would they do that if they had documentary evidence that is was a share issue or transfer ?

And that is not just me having my "pro BP/Consortium" glasses on. Its the crux of the whole issue as far as I am concerned
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sonic youth

« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 19:08:03 »

if it's a share issue, the club should be able to prove it easily...and they haven't, so that makes me think they're playing silly buggers.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 19:18:01 »

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if it's a share issue, the club should be able to prove it easily...and they haven't, so that makes me think they're playing silly buggers.


I'd never thought of it as logically as that.  Nice thought Spock.  

Something definitely doesn’t smell right and it’ll be interesting to see what eventually comes out in court.  On the subject of the court cases is it the London Gazette where they’re usually published?
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 19:23:31 »

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if it's a share issue, the club should be able to prove it easily...and they haven't, so that makes me think they're playing silly buggers.


I'd never thought of it as logically as that.  Nice thought Spock.  

Something definitely doesn’t smell right and it’ll be interesting to see what eventually comes out in court.  On the subject of the court cases is it the London Gazette where they’re usually published?


WUP's are published there Daz

all commercial litigation that falls outside that isn't
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 19:26:27 »

Cheers

Will we get an update when papers are served to the club?
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 19:30:47 »

YES !
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 22:55:25 »

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is that game over for the consortium?

If BP's investment was to buy shares, the club's lawyers would hardly have made an offer to repay him several months ago. Unless they're in the habit of offering to repay money they claim not to owe (as opposed to the rather more familiar tactic of not paying money they demonstrably do owe).
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Frasier3

« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 23:23:56 »

What if the clubs lawyers maintain that the repayment offer was made on the basis of a small percentage of the £1.2 mill being a loan and the bulk was to buy shares.
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