The CVA balls up and this forums reaction to it

[Arriba]

another interesting thread.
i think answers from the board need to be made to the questions below at least.

why have you lost faith in mark d?
where did powers money go?
where did the compensation money for wise go?
where is the increased gate money going?

there are other questions i would ask but think the 4 above are paramount!

[red macca]

another interesting thread.
i think answers from the board need to be made to the questions below at least.

why have you lost faith in mark d?
where did powers money go?
where did the compensation money for wise go?
where is the increased gate money going?

there are other questions i would ask but think the 4 above are paramount!

arriba all good questions i would add 2 more though.

where did the fallon money go

where did the parkin money go

[Arriba]

both valid questions macca.there are plenty of em in all honesty

[Reg Smeeton]

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

The people being criticised, the Newbury crew, are precisely the last people we want to see around a negotiating table. The people we need to negotiate with are the Wills family - no-one has criticised them and we are on record as expressing admiration for them so often it's almost, well, "arse-lickey".

You should have worked out by now that this "We like, trust and respect you but your friends and the people you've appointed to run your affairs are a bunch of incompetent money grubbing crooks" line isn't going down to well with the Wills's.

The Newbury/Dunwoody lot are a fact that you're going to have to take account of. SSW keeps sticking by them no matter how much you slag them off. All it does is further entrench their position when you keeping questioning the families judgement in retaining them.

Unless you're hoping Gandalf will stride into the boardroom and smack SSW on the head with a big stick and get him to see "wormtongue" Diamandis in his true colours, you'd better think of a new approach.

 At the end of the day....the club belongs to the fans, the Wills family can entrench themselves as much as they want.....in the way that 40 fans protesting against King  was distasteful to them, so he was sacked, direct fans action would soon have the same effect on the board.

[Lumps]

If the Trust has found an investor that's got a spare £5-10m to take the club on I'll be delighted. But if they have it's probably not wise to be posting stuff slagging off the people you're trying to get around a negotiating table.

The people being criticised, the Newbury crew, are precisely the last people we want to see around a negotiating table. The people we need to negotiate with are the Wills family - no-one has criticised them and we are on record as expressing admiration for them so often it's almost, well, "arse-lickey".

You should have worked out by now that this "We like, trust and respect you but your friends and the people you've appointed to run your affairs are a bunch of incompetent money grubbing crooks" line isn't going down to well with the Wills's.

The Newbury/Dunwoody lot are a fact that you're going to have to take account of. SSW keeps sticking by them no matter how much you slag them off. All it does is further entrench their position when you keeping questioning the families judgement in retaining them.

Unless you're hoping Gandalf will stride into the boardroom and smack SSW on the head with a big stick and get him to see "wormtongue" Diamandis in his true colours, you'd better think of a new approach.

 At the end of the day....the club belongs to the fans, the Wills family can entrench themselves as much as they want.....in the way that 40 fans protesting against King  was distasteful to them, so he was sacked, direct fans action would soon have the same effect on the board.

Well I hope you're right. But I don't see there's an easy answer here. SSW seems wedded to this bloke and seems to just get pissed off and stubborn when he's criticised.

[DV]

another interesting thread.
i think answers from the board need to be made to the questions below at least.

why have you lost faith in mark d?
where did powers money go?
where did the compensation money for wise go?
where is the increased gate money going?

there are other questions i would ask but think the 4 above are paramount!

arriba all good questions i would add 2 more though.

where did the fallon money go

where did the parkin money go

Fallon and Parkin money was used to balance the books at the end of last season.

If I remember correctly, the Parkin money we had received plus the 300k for Fallon (which was all at once) reduced our operating loss of that season, from well alot....to not alot....or so we were told?!

[deltaincline]

I've got no feeling for the personalities involved in the issues at the club. So when I see statements that completely condemn some individuals, whilst elevating others, like yourself, to positions worthy of canonisation, I can't help but think, "hold on surely there's a bit of grey somewhere in this black and white picture of the world".

Clearly there are some real problems at the club, and most of the people that post on here, like me, know very little about the details. Unfortunately that doesn't stop others slagging people off as if they actually knew them.

It means that the small group of posters that might actually know something, for me just get lost in the sea of ranting Dunwoody marketing bashers.

Easy words. Sat up there in Yorkshire, slating us for jumping all over the likes of Diamandis and Dunwoody. Funny how you claim not to know any of the individuals involved on the one hand.......

You should have worked out by now that this "We like, trust and respect you but your friends and the people you've appointed to run your affairs are a bunch of incompetent money grubbing crooks" line isn't going down to well with the Wills's.

The Newbury/Dunwoody lot are a fact that you're going to have to take account of. SSW keeps sticking by them no matter how much you slag them off. All it does is further entrench their position when you keeping questioning the families judgement in retaining them.

Unless you're hoping Gandalf will stride into the boardroom and smack SSW on the head with a big stick and get him to see "wormtongue" Diamandis in his true colours, you'd better think of a new approach.

...........then appear to have an intimate grip on the feelings of the Wills family and their chosen advisors.

Seems like you've been rumbled buddy

[Fred Elliot]

I've got no feeling for the personalities involved in the issues at the club. So when I see statements that completely condemn some individuals, whilst elevating others, like yourself, to positions worthy of canonisation, I can't help but think, "hold on surely there's a bit of grey somewhere in this black and white picture of the world".

Clearly there are some real problems at the club, and most of the people that post on here, like me, know very little about the details. Unfortunately that doesn't stop others slagging people off as if they actually knew them.

It means that the small group of posters that might actually know something, for me just get lost in the sea of ranting Dunwoody marketing bashers.

Easy words. Sat up there in Yorkshire, slating us for jumping all over the likes of Diamandis and Dunwoody. Funny how you claim not to know any of the individuals involved on the one hand.......

You should have worked out by now that this "We like, trust and respect you but your friends and the people you've appointed to run your affairs are a bunch of incompetent money grubbing crooks" line isn't going down to well with the Wills's.

The Newbury/Dunwoody lot are a fact that you're going to have to take account of. SSW keeps sticking by them no matter how much you slag them off. All it does is further entrench their position when you keeping questioning the families judgement in retaining them.

Unless you're hoping Gandalf will stride into the boardroom and smack SSW on the head with a big stick and get him to see "wormtongue" Diamandis in his true colours, you'd better think of a new approach.

...........then appear to have an intimate grip on the feelings of the Wills family and their chosen advisors.

Seems like you've been rumbled buddy

Delta

Star !

[pauld]

Star or not, he's not really got a full grip on the whole quoting/size change embedded tags thing, has he?  

[deltaincline]

Star or not, he's not really got a full grip on the whole quoting/size change embedded tags thing, has he?  

OK. OK. I'm new to all this tecno stuff. I did wonder what my post would look like on a diddy monitor (I use my son's 19" graphic designer monitor and it looked fine). I'll try to resist using big fonts next time. Sorry folks.

[pauld]

Yet again proof of the old cautionary tale that it's not how many inches you have but what you do with them .... at least that's what I like to think  

[deltaincline]

Yet again proof of the old cautionary tale that it's not how many inches you have but what you do with them .... at least that's what I like to think  

Fuck my old boots, I deliberately made reference to the size of my sons monitor to avoid someone cracking a smutty gag like that.... I obviously have a lot to learn :roll:

[wokinghamred]

The facts are this Lumps. Bill Power put in his first £500k in February, I believe, as the club needed finance at the time urgently. I was then asked to see if Bill would put in his second half million in July, because there were outstanding issues including the CVA. My understanding was that June's CVA installment was to be paid once BP's money was in the bank. As CEO the buck would normally stop with me, but the Finance Director was not taking her instructions from me, so frankly I can't tell you anymore about why it hasn't been paid, as, like most people, I was under the impression it had been paid until I read the websites.

Bill P , if he keeps up to date , must be well impressed with his former management colleagues.

He puts in £500K because , amongst other things, the CVA is be paid , and he discovers now (presumably) that his money was used of no such thing.

I wonder if he refers to the Newbury crowd as politely as the rest of us ?

[Christy]

It's soul destroying that so few people are able to comprehend the whole sorry mess as 'grey' rather than a black v white opportunity to lob rocks at whoever they perceive as the other side....how many are waiting for a self-fulfilling prophecy, and an opportunity to blame someone else for killing STFC?

Much as I despair at the way STFC has been managed for what, ten years, I'm equally concerned at the Trust's capability to deliver anything better.

If the naive, provacative shite I read here really is an indication of what's to come, I'm scared.

[TalkTalk]

If the naive, provacative shite I read here really is an indication of what's to come, I'm scared.

If the serious minded proactive determination I read here really is an indication of what's to come, I'm optimistic.