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« Reply #30 on: Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:30:30 » |
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I did suggest earlier that we could create something using the paper and just not let the club know what is was going to be!!
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« Reply #31 on: Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:33:35 » |
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Hmmm....BOARD OUT?
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« Reply #32 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:44:51 » |
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Can I ask a question?
What the fuck are you all planning to protest about?
The official story seems fairly reasonable to me:
- BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries -
In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"!
Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train?
How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play.
How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them?
The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it.
If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested?
What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades:
- Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down
- Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down
- Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out
Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT!
Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up)
In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!"
The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus!
And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better.
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« Reply #33 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:49:17 » |
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Can I ask a question?
What the fuck are you all planning to protest about?
The official story seems fairly reasonable to me:
- BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries -
In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"!
Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train?
How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play.
How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them?
The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it.
If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested?
What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades:
- Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down
- Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down
- Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out
Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT!
Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up)
In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!"
The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus!
And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better. good post well said! i think its clear everyone hates the board though. so why not show it? who knows it might even encourage them to sell on? |
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lumpimynci
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« Reply #34 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:49:59 » |
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Oh and before some cunt says the focus of the protest would be SACK THE BOARD, can you all actually think about what that would mean.
NO BOARD = No Money = No Club
So unless a few of you are closet millionaires then I'd forget that one as it really won't fly
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RobertT
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« Reply #35 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:50:37 » |
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Who says he was "pushed" as such. I'm not denying he may have wanted to leave, but I think there are questions that the past week has raised about how other people run our club. If you were ill and had just invested a shit load of money into a business only to find the other key person rubbed you up the wrong way, I'd guess you would decide to leave it.
So, not that he was forced out, maybe, just maybe he found himself in a position where he just didn't have to put up with the shit.
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« Reply #36 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 09:05:16 » |
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Can I ask a question?
What the fuck are you all planning to protest about?
The official story seems fairly reasonable to me:
- BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries -
In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"!
Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train?
How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play.
How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them?
The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it.
If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested?
What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades:
- Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down
- Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down
- Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out
Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT!
Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up)
In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!"
The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus!
And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better.
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« Reply #37 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 17:34:40 » |
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Wills has kept us alive for which i thank him, but he has drip fedus for years, as long as entrusting the club into the hands of highly incompetent people
Time for him to go, sell up to someone who can take us further
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #38 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:15:47 » |
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All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why?
Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? |
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« Reply #39 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:17:51 » |
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Property development. I think you can get the original proposal the club put in for the CG development from the Council - it's a document available under the Freedom of Information Act.
Using such a method to fund it is fair enough I think mind, just the actual proposal was a bit shit.
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« Reply #40 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:21:09 » |
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Property development. I think you can get the original proposal the club put in for the CG development from the Council - it's a document available under the Freedom of Information Act.
Using such a method to fund it is fair enough I think mind, just the actual proposal was a bit shit. In the words of the annoying shit Andy from Little Britain "yeah I know" |
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« Reply #41 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:37:11 » |
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All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why?
Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? My question would be do we actually need one? At what price is the 'newbury holy grail' of a new stadium? And seeing as the current board have made absolutely no movements on the subject for 12 months, and their previous attempts have been so half hearted and absolutely pathetic (excepting Shaw) wouldnt it be better if we moved on and concentrated on what really matters? THE FUCKING FOOTBALL! Old stadiums dont excuse incompetance. |
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« Reply #42 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:41:15 » |
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Still cannot believe that some people on here are defending the board- beggars belief
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #43 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:45:14 » |
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All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why?
Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? My question would be do we actually need one? At what price is the 'newbury holy grail' of a new stadium? And seeing as the current board have made absolutely no movements on the subject for 12 months, and their previous attempts have been so half hearted and absolutely pathetic (excepting Shaw) wouldnt it be better if we moved on and concentrated on what really matters? THE FUCKING FOOTBALL! Old stadiums dont excuse incompetance. Ah ok then that's fair enough. I think the benefits of a new stadium have been well documented. It's probably not a necessity for the club to survive, but for us to be a decent team and survive it will be. |
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« Reply #44 on: Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:54:46 » |
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How decent do we have to be? Are we aiming at Champions league or what? Seems to me we are risking it all for a pipe dream, and until then Wills has said he isnt interested in investing in the team.
To my mind the Dunwoody lot is a nightmare for the STFC common fan. They are not pulling in the same direction, they raise ticket prices and bring in bad players on short contracts.
Weve gotten ahead of ourselves. A new stadium is a necessity for the newbury lot to make money, but what necessity is it for us, the fans? Its overrated. Owning the ground isnt overrated. But does anyone actually think we'd just get given it by whatever estate agent/money man had built it for us? Course not. By the way the treat the club I think we might end up with an even worse landlord than we have at the moment.
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