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Question: Do you still back Sturrock  (Voting closed: Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 12:16:41)
Yes 100 percent - 64 (63.4%)
No not at all he should be sacked - 5 (5%)
50/50 - some days hes ok other days hes not - persevere - 32 (31.7%)
Total Voters: 66

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Piemonte

« Reply #45 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 15:12:57 »

Bonuses should have nothing to do with it. I mentioned on another thread that the players are going to get paid the bonuses in their contracts (assuming they achieve something) this season regardless of weather the board like it or not.

Any renegotiation will take place for next season, and 3/4 of our current squad dont even have a contract for that period as things stand.
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 16:32:41 »

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Can anyone in 'the know' give us a brief update as to what the consortium are currently doing with their time and a rough timescale on the next phase of takeover talks?

I've taken up alligator wrestling while Fred is showing great promise with his new tapestry .... which is to say as and when we've got something concrete to say, we'll say it. Sorry, I know that's not wildly helpful, but it's the best we can do at the moment.
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ricardo123

« Reply #47 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 18:15:10 »

sturrocks never been convincing imo
since luggy took charge all our league games that weve won, except macclefield and walsall, weve only won by 1 goal.and alot of those reults were lucky eg:
1-0 torquay penalty win
2-1 vs  wrexham roberts penalty
hardly convincing results against shit teams
oh yh there was 1-0 ( a penalty)vs morecombe in the cup aswell
add a few draws and 5 or 6 defeats in there and youve got sturrocks record so far.not convincing best describes it
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« Reply #48 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 18:45:30 »

Quote from: "ricardo123"
sturrocks never been convincing imo
since luggy took charge all our league games that weve won, except macclefield and walsall, weve only won by 1 goal.and alot of those reults were lucky eg:
1-0 torquay penalty win
2-1 vs  wrexham roberts penalty
hardly convincing results against shit teams
oh yh there was 1-0 ( a penalty)vs morecombe in the cup aswell
add a few draws and 5 or 6 defeats in there and youve got sturrocks record so far.not convincing best describes it


No different to Wise though.

Sturrock wants things done his way and wants his players to play a certain way, and he's been let down a lot of the time. He's a decent manager, but we don't have that great a set of players and we play in a shite league so we can't really expect great performances week in/week out. TBH I don't think we played any better under Wise at all.
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« Reply #49 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 23:11:44 »

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Bonuses should have nothing to do with it. I mentioned on another thread that the players are going to get paid the bonuses in their contracts (assuming they achieve something) this season regardless of weather the board like it or not.
If the wheels continue to fall off there will be no bonuses to pay ... what a great idea!!

Would you put it past them?
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« Reply #50 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 23:13:40 »

I said this in an earlier thread Santini old chum

Conspiracy theories abound

perish the thought
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Piemonte

« Reply #51 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 09:01:49 »

I dont buy the conspirasy theory. Footballers being footballers will want the cash.
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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 09:16:05 »

This conspiracy theory is crap.
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JOHNNY REEVES

« Reply #53 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 09:16:55 »

so we don,t back the board we don,t back the manager the stadium is out of date the players are all lazy shits the penalty areas are all boggy it costs too much to go to the games.swindon town top of the league--- stress league that is. Soapy Tit Wank
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Sharky

« Reply #54 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 09:26:50 »

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Quote from: "Sharky"
Can anyone in 'the know' give us a brief update as to what the consortium are currently doing with their time and a rough timescale on the next phase of takeover talks?

I've taken up alligator wrestling while Fred is showing great promise with his new tapestry .... which is to say as and when we've got something concrete to say, we'll say it. Sorry, I know that's not wildly helpful, but it's the best we can do at the moment.


You see whilst I do find you amusing and I do not in any way wish to sound disrespectful as I think yourself and Fred Elliott do seem to be doing a lot.....It would be nice, concrete or not for the fans to have some form of update as to what is going on at present.

As I understand it, there is nothing in place as yet to stop you from telling us what is going on as the board haven't entered into due dilligence with you yet.....but at the same time, for me and some of the other fans, it would appear that things are stagnating and that perhaps more could be done?

Maybe I am wrong and there are further stadium plans being drawn up or strategies and suchlike being planned for future use whilst the current board get their affairs in order, but to an outsider looking in, it appears that nothing is happening after such a promising start.

I mean, don't take this the wrong way, but how hard is it for lawyers to make the intention to buy the club know formally and for the deal to then be discussed with the club?......what other than the accounts having yet to be published is standing in the way of progress?
Are all the consortiums affairs in order? Are you ready for when the board say "ok lets talk"..............what if they value the club much higher than you believe it is worth and will not accept a bid any lower than that valuation? will the consortium be held to ransom or simply give up on the bid?

I know there are a lot of questions and I do not expect answers straight away as I am sure you have plenty yo be doing yourself......but from someone who wants to wholehearted support the consortium (me) I am finding it hard to see the stumbling blocks other than the accounts as to why there has been no progress or update for so long now.

Like our season, I am starting to wonder whether all the hype will end in shattered dreams and what if's???

Please correct me and instil me with the confidence I once had for the consortium.....I need something to believe in as do all the fans and I don't want it to be a fading dream.
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« Reply #55 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 10:12:52 »

Sorry if my reply was somewhat light-hearted. However, to repeat, at this moment in time, we are not in a position to provide any update on the status of talks between the Fans' Consortium's lawyers and the Clarke Willmott, the lawyers representing the Wills family/the club.
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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 10:24:35 »

I can understand why you are a little frustrated by the lack of news and updates but your just going to have to be patient like the rest of us and I am sure we will be put in the picture sooner rather than later.

I believe it would be inappropriate for anyone to make a statement until they know that all avenues have been approached and unsuccesful.  Remember the stick the consortium got for being too vocal earlier in the year, well now they are respecting/observing a spell of silence.

There is no need for further stadium plans the ones that have been drawn up were excellent and have been widely acclaimed by local councillers, the actual council and local residents so there would be no need to develop these further as once finance is in place they can start building.

I have no doubt that the Trust are not sitting back doing nothing there is constantly stuff going on behind the scenes which we will be updated on in due course.  

As far as how hard it is for lawyers to be able to do an offer etc, I would say very hard when the seller is putting obstacles in the way by no co-operating with the consortium on a number of fronts including not showing them the books, which in itself worries us all because you question why do they not want to show the accounts?

After seeing Phil Emmel at the last trust meeting he said they were in it for the long haul and determined to see the takeover through so for me that was good enough for me and exactly what I wanted to hear.  He also stated that they want to turn this into a fans club and takes us to the championship so my optimism for the consortium is still very high.

It is no fading dream let me assure you, we can all make it happen.  Make sure you wear Orange on Saturday and show the board who your backing.  Keep the faith 'we will get our power back'.   Cool
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Sharky

« Reply #57 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 10:25:24 »

Quote from: "pauld"
Sorry if my reply was somewhat light-hearted. However, to repeat, at this moment in time, we are not in a position to provide any update on the status of talks between the Fans' Consortium's lawyers and the Clarke Willmott, the lawyers representing the Wills family/the club.


No problem Paul I appreciate that there must be issue's outside of your control that prevent you from answering my questions.

I look forward to further details as and when they are available and remain nervously on the edge of my seat for now.
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The_Plagiarist

« Reply #58 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 14:04:03 »

Oh Fuck off of course I "still back Sturrock" what a fucking question is that?
Do you still support Swindon Town FC?

For fucks sake if anyone has seriously convinced themselves that Paul Sturrock is the problem at this fucking Football Club they need shooting.

Fucking ridiculous question.
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« Reply #59 on: Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 14:07:35 »

Oh and that conspiricy theory is bullshit too. The players get paid their bonus depending on league position every week/month so they've been getting bonuses all season so if we were to finish eighth the club wouldn't suddenly get back all the bonuses they'd already paid thus saving a shit load of moolash.
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