Boston marathon

[Crispy]

My arguement has nothing to do with that link so well done for that. It has more to do with ghanimah comments on people jumping to conclusions.

Which is why it lost momentum posting random links, I like Sam's idea, lets blame the WI, Islamic Extriemests are great, great people.

[carbonwhite]

Which is why it lost momentum posting random links, I like Sam's idea, lets blame the WI, Islamic Extriemests are great, great people.

How was it random, ghanimah said about people jumping to conclusions over the Oklahoma City bombings. which then i posted a link to a man that also jumped to conclusions in the boston bombings.

[Dostoyevsky]

One of the suspects and a policeman reported dead in shoot out. Neighbourhood in lockdown as intensive search for remaining suspect takes place.

Police radio here:

http://audio3.radioreference.com/446184308

[Dostoyevsky]

I find it interesting and curious that instead of investigating this idea to determine if there's any truth to it, the media attacked it unquestioningly, even saying they're insulted by it.



“He was controlled by the FBI, like for three, five years,” she told Russia Today during an interview. ”They knew what my son was doing, they knew what actions and what sites on the Internet he was going [to], they used to come…and talk to me…they were telling me that he was really a serious leader and they were afraid of him.”

“How could this happen?…They were controlling every step of him, and they are telling today that this is a terrorist attack,” she added."

[Honkytonk]

I find it interesting and curious that instead of investigating this idea to determine if there's any truth to it, the media attacked it unquestioningly, even saying they're insulted by it.

“He was controlled by the FBI, like for three, five years,” she told Russia Today during an interview. ”They knew what my son was doing, they knew what actions and what sites on the Internet he was going [to], they used to come…and talk to me…they were telling me that he was really a serious leader and they were afraid of him.”

“How could this happen?…They were controlling every step of him, and they are telling today that this is a terrorist attack,” she added."

Whilst it's fun to get all 'STATE IS OUT TO GET YOU', I'd like to derail you befor eyou start posting David Icke Dossy. There's not a scrap of evidence to support her theories (which, I may add, are coming from the other side of the world to where the investigation is happening). She sounds like a mother who is angry, and I suppose must feel, probably slightly guilty over the whole situation. How many times have you heard 'My son/wife/husband could never do something like this?' Not wanting to believe someone that close to you was capable of such an action is a perfectly natural feeling. She wants to blame someone, and the FBI/American Government is an easy target.

I do want to know which foreign government his elder brother was on the radar of that made the FBI look into him all that time ago though.

[Abrahammer]

Dosser loves a conspiracy theory

[Dostoyevsky]

Very fair point Honkytonk, though in addition to what their own mother has said,  I do find it all rather strange that those that knew the two brothers- people residing on their street, those they went to college amongst, and with whom they attended swimming/wrestling groups - have all expressed total incredulity that the pair could be involved in any action born of fanaticism.

But as you well say, if they were intent on such an extreme measure it would hardly propel the plot into actuality if they crackled with hatred infront of everyone they encountered from day-day, so it was neccassary to put on some mild mannered front.

[tans]

He was bloody good at hide and seek mind

[Honkytonk]

Very fair point Honkytonk, though in addition to what their own mother has said,  I do find it all rather strange that those that knew the two brothers- people residing on their street, those they went to college amongst, and with whom they attended swimming/wrestling groups - have all expressed total incredulity that the pair could be involved in any action born of fanaticism.

But as you well say, if they were intent on such an extreme measure it would hardly propel the plot into actuality if they crackled with hatred infront of everyone they encountered from day-day, so it was neccassary to put on some mild mannered front.

Also their uncle, who lived close to them, practically called them nutjobs.

Seems to me the older brother in particular was dissappointed with life in the states, this spread to his younger brother (seems that they lived together, with no close family other than themselves), then they decided to look into ways of hitting back at the country they felt was a lie, culminating in them bombing their local city on Patriots Day.

The younger brother seems the sadder case here. From the impressions I've got, he was the meeker/more corruptable one of the two. He seemed to be on the up and up within school etc., but unfortunately his elder brother turned him. Maybe he was never truly radicalised, but felt that between his loyalty to his brother and that he seemed to have few/no friends, he was an outcast, and this was a way of getting some attention. If nothing else, the low body count of what could have been a truly awful attack shows the brothers were either ill-equipped/prepared, or there was a problem with their nerves.

I think the Islamic community in the states has breathed a sigh of relief too- the whole 'Balkan/Russian terrorist' thing is the main story, not the fact they were muslim. That horse was beaten to death long ago.

[carbonwhite]

I saw a picture of the younger brother at the marathon saying that he left the bag at the finish line, but in another paper a picture showed him walking away after the bombs went off but he was still holding his bag on his back, i thought that was abit strange but surely someone else had noticed that.

[Dostoyevsky]

Agreed CarbonWhite and then there's this latest peculiarity. Observe this guys very odd behaviour at the exact moment of the explosion:



and some comments about it here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243405

[Batch]

Back and to the left, back and to the left...

[carbonwhite]

Just heard that the mother has been on the fbi's watch list since 2011.