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[Ardiles]

I think it's a good idea. I've no idea why we don't stick with BST.

Because most of the country would arrive at work/school in the dark for 3 months of the year!  And all so the point at which it gets dark can move back from 3.30pm/4pm to 4.30pm/5pm in mid-winter...which makes bugger all difference to most people anyway.

Didn't we try this in the 1970s anyway, before switching back again after a few years?

[janaage]

The Scots opposed it as they would have no sunlight until 10am in the winter months.

Why don't they just get up later?

Stick with BST, Darkness falling at 1600 in the winter months isn't good for the soul.

[Barry Scott]

Because most of the country would arrive at work/school in the dark for 3 months of the year!  And all so the point at which it gets dark can move back from 3.30pm/4pm to 4.30pm/5pm in mid-winter...which makes bugger all difference to most people anyway.

This is why I think it'd be good. As far as I'm concerned it can stay dark until lunch. I'd rather have an hours extra daylight in the afternoon/evening, than the morning.

Also, why should children going to school in the dark be in issue, it's not like classrooms don't have lights (the same as offices). It also means it's safer for children after school, which is surely preferable.

[walcot red]

so people don't want to send their kids to school in the dark but are happy to have them come home in the dark? where is the logic there?

[Flashheart]

This is why I think it'd be good. As far as I'm concerned it can stay dark until lunch. I'd rather have an hours extra daylight in the afternoon/evening, than the morning.

Also, why should children going to school in the dark be in issue, it's not like classrooms don't have lights (the same as offices). It also means it's safer for children after school, which is surely preferable.

A lot of kids walk to school Barry

[Barry Scott]

I don't have kids so I'll admit I'm probably wrong.

I simply assumed I'd be happier for my kids to walk to school in the dark than play after school in the dark. And if they're too young, then I'd be walking them to school and I'd be happy for them to play outside, if there was daylight, after school.

so people don't want to send their kids to school in the dark but are happy to have them come home in the dark? where is the logic there?

Kind of my thinking. It's not like the early hours are the favoured time of the degenerate.

[Ardiles]

You need daylight in the morning to get you going much more than you need it in the evening to keep you going.  If we stayed on permanent BST, it would routinely take until after 9.30am to get daylight down here in December and January - and would routinely take until mid-morning for the same to happen in Scotland.

I honestly can't think of anything worse (other than the recurring nightmare of losing to Oxford in the play off final that I've been getting recently).  I know there's no right and no wrong here, but I doubt there would be a majority for change if it went to a vote.

[ghanimah]

You need daylight in the morning to get you going much more than you need it in the evening to keep you going.  If we stayed on permanent BST, it would routinely take until after 9.30am to get daylight down here in December and January - and would routinely take until mid-morning for the same to happen in Scotland.

I honestly can't think of anything worse (other than the recurring nightmare of losing to Oxford in the play off final that I've been getting recently).  I know there's no right and no wrong here, but I doubt there would be a majority for change if it went to a vote.

Not that we could stay on permanent BST anyway it's against EU law

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32000L0084:EN:HTML

We would still need "summer time arrangements" i.e. BST+1