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[Nomoreheroes]

Oh and that's all well and good until there's no fucking club left to support!

Am not trying to be controversial, or trying to slate you. However, to combine this and your last post I would simply say that the club has survived for 20 years following the similar circumstances that you quoted in Bring The Noise. We are never going to be a Lpool, Man Ure, Arseole or Chelski unless a multimillionaire comes in and spends money like water, builds us a massive stadium that we can fill week upon week and buys up all the best players in the world. And to be honest, I'm quite pleased that we wont be like that !

What I'm seeing now I'd liken more to my first experience of a general election where the country was ready for a change. There was so much gloom and doom while there was the promise of a new way and better life under the Tories. The country voted them in and life was great for a while. Then it all went tits up and it was time for promise under Labour. Again, a change and life was good for a while, but now it appears time for a change again.....What I'm saying is that power struggles are cyclic.

Still, the point of my post was that I want to concentrate on on the pitch activities. I want to see a bunch of nobodies shock the football league and become successful. Just like the 80s !  

NMH

[Nomoreheroes]

What I do care about is that the club picks up and turns from a 'losing team' to a winning team. This season for me is far far better than I can remember for a long while. Its a crying shame that all that everyone seems to be focussing on is back room stuff that we shouldn't necessarily be aware of.

Take the rose tinted specs off pal. I give a fuck about the club and how it is run as much as I do what goes on on the pitch. Without one, we might not have the other to enjoy or bitch about.

Sitting with your fingers in your ears, your eyes tight shut and pretending that as long as we're winning matches everything else will follow is bollocks.

I appreciate that the politics may bore you. Fine, but why slate those who don't find it boring and can see through the constant stream of shit that emanates from SN1 and Newbury?

Oh, and by the way, remind me why you logged on to a discussion forum in the first place? Was it to swap stories about how green the fucking grass is looking at this time of year, or to observe, debate, and get involved a bit?  Or maybe you can think of another reason?

First bottle of New world cabsav safely put away. On to the chillean stuff now. Hic

I'm afraid you misunderstand me. I didn't slate anyone. I expressed my opinion, which is as valid as the next person's. I wouldn't dare slate anyone for fear of the reprisals from internet warriors.

My point is that I don't know who is 'spouting the constant stream of shite' as I am in no position to judge. But I do understand that we are 2nd in the league because we have got more points than at this stage in recent seasons.

NMH

[Frigby Daser]

See your point to an extent - but exactly what the Consortium is trying to achieve is that...a scenario where we can concentrate on the Saturday afternoons instead of whether we're being lied to by the board or threatened with moving to another town!

Get the consortium in and thats excatly what we'll be able to get back to, before thenm it simply won't happen.

[Batch]

If you just want to come and wat the team NMH I don't see the problem.

My only comment is that we have spent more money we should have this year (algedly), and have spent the bare minimum last year in an effort to break even. What are the spending plans under the current board for next year (given we have at least 100K more per year for 10 years to pay off the CVA).

The manager shoul stick to manaing. End of story.

[Reg Smeeton]

I've been going for 40+ years and mistrust of the Board of the day and their shortcomings in running the football club have always been part of the scene.

  Right back to the early 60's when the legendary side that Bert Head built was dismantled because of lack of investment and ambition.....i used to love the TE chant aimed at the charman...."send Wilf Castle to Vietnam alleluyah....repeat

[deltaincline]

I'm afraid you misunderstand me. I didn't slate anyone. I expressed my opinion, which is as valid as the next person's. I wouldn't dare slate anyone for fear of the reprisals from internet warriors.

My point is that I don't know who is 'spouting the constant stream of shite' as I am in no position to judge. But I do understand that we are 2nd in the league because we have got more points than at this stage in recent seasons.

NMH

Yeah, fair enough NMH, I read your post again and you wern't slating anyone. Apologies for pitching in.

I think where I'm comming from is similar to what you want which is to be able to concentrate on the football. I won't sit around happily watching football while the board take the piss though. I may not be able to do much persoanally, but I will highlight what I think is wrong and why I think that.

The current situation is fundamentally different to the past in that the stadium development or a stadium move is key to our future. These things don't come along too often. We can not afford to fuck this up, or watch the money slip away into someones bank account leaving the club with fuck-all like happened at Oxford.

Power and Emmell have said that they will use profits to further the club if they take over. I'm assuming that the trust or council will make sure of that in some way but I do trust them from what I've read and heard. They have put 1.2m in already and have been treated disgracefully by the board since the plane crash. Despite that they still want in!

Diamandis and his cronies don't say what they will do with the profits, though we can all guess by their track record of lies and deciept. With all the shit that surrounds the board and the crap we've endured for years, I just want the cunts out and for them to take their snidey fucking business practices and political games back to wherever they crawled out from..

I don't want to hear any more of their bollocks, just for them to fuck off. Simple as really, and the quicker the better.

[Nomoreheroes]

Power and Emmell have said that they will use profits to further the club if they take over. I'm assuming that the trust or council will make sure of that in some way but I do trust them from what I've read and heard. They have put 1.2m in already and have been treated disgracefully by the board since the plane crash. Despite that they still want in!

Last thing I'll say on the subject is that Terry Brady and his people were the saviours a few years ago now. Look what a disaster that was. I hope that Messrs Power & Emmell aren't the same.

Lets just hope that whatever happens results in an efficiently run club, managed well with a good product on the park that results in success at the club in a new stadium that is full of proud and fully satisfied fans.

NMH

[Frigby Daser]

The only similarity between the two is that they're external investors.

Power has already put money in - Brady never did.

Power has a blueprint - Brady never did.

Power will involve the fans.

[Simon Pieman]

I think the worrying thing is that some people are just focussing on the football and would probably not care if Sturrock got appointed to the board. It'll all end in tears if this happened with everyone.

I hope things change for the better. Obviously the future of the club is in the current board and consortium's hand and I hope for a satisfactory resolution. If it doesn't then I think that's when us fans will have to think of ways to put pressure on the management of the business even if we are winning.

[Spencer_White]

Just like Dennis did when he met that"nice man" called Mike


Enough said

Thats gotta be a piss take. That cunt called Mike more like.

[RobertT]

Quite a few people sat back and took the winning period in the 80's where we were fiddling the finances.  Who knows how the club would have gone withouth the brown paper bags but what we do know is that it ultimately cost us promotion to the top league when we may just have been able to survive before the money flowed in.

This time we may not have brown paper bags, but we have more than enough of a concern about the direction of the clubs, decisions being made etc.  We could just sit back though because we are 2nd in a league right now (although this current boards management in part got us down here), because we'll let them get on with.  But this time, the very future of Swindon Town FC could be the cost - maybe not in 6 months, we may well get past the CVA date, but why would the next 5 years be any different to past 5? and to even contemplate Chippenham shows how mcuh at risk they can and will place us.  I'd rather make an effort to get involved now (and even risk a couple of years of consolidating the business) than sit here 2 years from now looking at a fixture lost for the Championship with all the STFC fixtures on the day we cease to be STFC.

Oh, and Brady never purchased the club (although SSW agreed to sell to him if he could get a ground built), he and the other two were allowed to be in charge (like Bowden, Starnes et al) by the major shareholder at the time.  He never had to have money to do that, he had no risk to himself.  Brady openly came in for property development, he mentions it when he took on the role as Chairman.  Power has already invested over £1m and is offering all profits from a development to first pay off SSW and then for the club.  Show me the comparison.

[millom red]

Quite a few people sat back and took the winning period in the 80's where we were fiddling the finances.  Who knows how the club would have gone withouth the brown paper bags but what we do know is that it ultimately cost us promotion to the top league when we may just have been able to survive before the money flowed in.

This time we may not have brown paper bags, but we have more than enough of a concern about the direction of the clubs, decisions being made etc.  We could just sit back though because we are 2nd in a league right now (although this current boards management in part got us down here), because we'll let them get on with.  But this time, the very future of Swindon Town FC could be the cost - maybe not in 6 months, we may well get past the CVA date, but why would the next 5 years be any different to past 5? and to even contemplate Chippenham shows how mcuh at risk they can and will place us.  I'd rather make an effort to get involved now (and even risk a couple of years of consolidating the business) than sit here 2 years from now looking at a fixture lost for the Championship with all the STFC fixtures on the day we cease to be STFC.

Oh, and Brady never purchased the club (although SSW agreed to sell to him if he could get a ground built), he and the other two were allowed to be in charge (like Bowden, Starnes et al) by the major shareholder at the time.  He never had to have money to do that, he had no risk to himself.  Brady openly came in for property development, he mentions it when he took on the role as Chairman.  Power has already invested over £1m and is offering all profits from a development to first pay off SSW and then for the club.  Show me the comparison.

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That and the working with the supporters to get the fans involved at board level is enough for me, and his desire to keep the club in swindon. It all bodes well imo if/when it goes through.


Millom

[millom red]

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