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You have to say it's impressive and set up for the Premiership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvWLviJkqy4

Does look decent, bit more info here if anyone's interested

https://trainingground.guru/articles/bristol-city-ready-to-move-into-new-robins-high-performance-centre

Cheers Paul and can't help but be envious of them

Well, of their training ground maybe

I wouldn't say I'm envious as their fans are still just as miserable as ours and seem to think they have some kind of entitlement. As for the facility, it's nice and light years ahead of us but I wouldn't say it's is set up for the Premier League, every Premier League team and decent Championship club has similar or better now so it won't really set them apart.  All it is doing is further highlighting the fact that we need our own facility and are getting further left behind.

Exactly that and although there are no guarantees they will achieve success they've certainly got first class facilities which at the moment we can only dream of

Envious? Of their set up, yes. Of the club, no.

I'd say they are more just keeping up with modern requirements, something we can only dream of at the moment and isn't far off what the (unlikely to ever happen) Highworth plans were for us.  Like I say that facility is probably bare minimum for a decent Championship team now, when you see the new training facilities the likes of Leicester, Southampton, Spurs etc have built in the last few years they are on a different stratosphere.

It makes you wonder how we could actually cope if by any miracle we made it into the championship

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

But they can still lose 6 home games in a row!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

They've left us behind😀

Can’t be to many that haven’t.

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Just looks like a gym, standard Championship facilities and a big football pitch? What am I missing to make it something to be envious of? They still won't make the PL in the next 5 years.

Going by the size of the city and money behind them etc, they are quite literally the most underperforming team in the country... have they ever actually won anything?

I remember them losing 2-1 at Calne with about 5 or 6 first team players. I ripped the piss  :)

Be fair, they've only had since 1982.

Tbh mate, you could apply that to several clubs in the modern era. Living off their history is all they have at present and coming to mind are three clubs all close to my "neck o' the woods". Sheff Wed, Forest (both of these have amazing history but they both need a lot doing with their infrastructure and their youth set ups have gone downhill a lot in recent years). Hillsborough desperately needs a renovation/refurb/rebuild just to put some of the terrible past that the ghost of a ground hangs over that club, behind them.

But Derby County must be one of the most underachieving ones for the set up they have. Theirs is a few years old but were one of the first to upgrade all their facilities from the late 90s continuing into the 00s. Starting with the move from the Baseball Ground to Pride Park (and it very much works for a stadia outside of the city (but Derby is like Reading in size so just a large town) as transport links are good and even from the Train Station it's a nice ish stroll. The idea was to create that "Wembley Way" feel but it was "Pride Park Way" and only when they did the England friendlies around the grounds did it bring a similar visage. England v Mexico and I'm think England won 5-0. Also hosted several England u21 matches for a really good price. Around £10 at the time.

Onto their training facilities, they moved from the Ram-Arena in Spondon which really was even more of a shithole than where the Baseball Ground was (charming as ever any inner city old ground is/was) based. They moved up to Moor Farm on the edge of Oakwood/Morley and it really is a great training facility.

However, whilst Derby have had the odd foray into the Prem, they've never sustained it and in recent years they've been throwing even more money at it without even performing quite well enough. This season is a write off for them. But even if they managed to get there, I can see them needing at least 5yrs for the current or any new owner to recoup everything spent at trying to get there. I think they would struggle - even with parachute payments.

Bristol City in some way have the advantage of having virtually none of the historical success, so even if their fans (football fans? Deluded? Never?!) are somewhat deluded, trying to spend as a board has a bit less pressure. In a way that is different to the likes of Derby (or even Wednesday/Forest fans. Even Leeds fans recently to some extent) fans. But the same would apply if Bristol City even got there, they would have to sustain it, and that's the biggest hurdle.

It's ok theakston et al saying that "it's not that impressive and only in line with what's required", well for sure, that's stating the bleeding obvious. But they are showing progression and building their club towards the level they want to be aiming for. There is no shame in admiring it, even if it is just "the minimum" (prob a little more than that but we'll let it fly) and even if they are our "rivals" (really though? I'm not so sure in the present situation). What they are doing is a far cry from where Town are currently and it's this bit I agree with Mr Old Peculiar. Town genuinely are light years behind, even if this is purely "the minimum" standard.

I can’t see how Bristol City fans can be accused of being deluded whilst at the same time lauding their set up/owner etc as being of PL standard. Surely with said set up they should be expectant of attaining PL status.

If we had a billionaire owner, a nice shiny stadium and a good training ground I would expect more than being a middle for diddle Championship club. It’s almost as if the club - not fans - don’t want to get there. And, tbf, it has been the ruin of a few clubs.

Excellent summary Kev😀
Inside looks just as impressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I27u88y_eT0