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Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, December 28, 2020, 10:07:39
I have a horrible feeling of deja vu.

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Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, December 28, 2020, 10:26:51
4 points from the next two, or we're really going to be slipping away.

We've got most of the bottom 8 at home. Those games could determine our fate.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: tans on Monday, December 28, 2020, 10:58:18
Ive already resigned myself to relegation to be honest. Cant be disappointed then.

So rudderless with no leadership at all levels of the club


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 28, 2020, 10:58:41
5/2 at home to beat that shower of plastic shit!

Our best performance and best win of the season - 4-0.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:02:12
So rudderless with no leadership at all levels of the club

I don't know where this idea has come from. I get that Power appears to be AWOL, and results have not been great, but it's clear to see improvements on the pitch.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:06:55
Tomorrow’s ref has dished out 40 yellows and 6 reds in his 17 games this season.

Better get that bath water warmed up early!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:28:30
I don't know where this idea has come from. I get that Power appears to be AWOL, and results have not been great, but it's clear to see improvements on the pitch.

Behave


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:32:44
Behave

Behave how?

We've been playing well in a lot of games, albeit without doing quite enough to get the right results. This includes against teams near the top.

Go back through the matchday threads and most other people say the same. That just seems to get forgotten for some reason.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:38:28
I dunno. Looking nice in attack does not equal playing well for me if it’s paired with a complete inability to defend


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:42:35
Defence still needs improvement but we have improved. We have been playing OK, defence problems aside. We are unfortunate to not have more points.

But I was more getting at the 'rudderless' comments that I keep on seeing and the accusations of the manager not giving a shit. I have seen no evidence of this and it appears to have come from speculation after he missed a couple of pressers (due to personal problems).


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:43:41
The Dongs have only won the same number of games as Town and are only 5 points and 6 positions better off than us despite them playing a game more than us.

Their last 5 league games have finished LDDLW so they are definately easily beatable, their only win in the last 5 being a home win vs the awful Bristol Rovers.

They have a couple of players well known and liked by Swindon fans in Ben Gladwin and Louis Thompson as well as ex Swindon manager as assistant manager Luke (warm) Williams.

They have a hugely experienced team with some well known names with good careers behind them but have a very inexperienced manager in Russell Martin who after 50 games in charge only winning 16 of them giving him a win ratio of just 32% almost as low as Williams run at Swindon where he won just 20 of his 75 games.

Hopefully the 10 days rest since our last game can work in our favour with several players needing the rest.

In home games vs these club stealing wankers we have beaten them 3 times and they have won 4 of the 11 meetings. Town scoring 9 and conceding 12 in the process. The last 2 games ending as 1-1 draws.

No idea what weird and wonderful line up we will play though.

But this is the sort of game we should be winning, MKDongs are not a good side unlike Charlton, Doncaster and Fleetwood who we played in our last 3 games and are eminently beatable if we all pull together and cut out the defensive/goalkeeping errors (yes I say the same every week and yet here we are!).






Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 28, 2020, 11:47:18
That’s fair. I think comments about sheridans commitment are daft, Power is  fairer game given what we know about the state of the club and transfer activity in the summer. Big January coming up for him now

As far as on the pitch i do see what you’re saying, but it’s very much a case of ‘the operation was a success but the patient died’ from what I’ve seen


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, December 28, 2020, 12:30:28
The Dongs have only won the same number of games as Town and are only 5 points and 6 positions better off than us despite them playing a game more than us.

Their last 5 league games have finished LDDLW so they are definately easily beatable, their only win in the last 5 being a home win vs the awful Bristol Rovers.

They have a couple of players well known and liked by Swindon fans in Ben Gladwin and Louis Thompson as well as ex Swindon manager as assistant manager Luke (warm) Williams.

They have a hugely experienced team with some well known names with good careers behind them but have a very inexperienced manager in Russell Martin who after 50 games in charge only winning 16 of them giving him a win ratio of just 32% almost as low as Williams run at Swindon where he won just 20 of his 75 games.

Hopefully the 10 days rest since our last game can work in our favour with several players needing the rest.

In home games vs these club stealing wankers we have beaten them 3 times and they have won 4 of the 11 meetings. Town scoring 9 and conceding 12 in the process. The last 2 games ending as 1-1 draws.

No idea what weird and wonderful line up we will play though.

But this is the sort of game we should be winning, MKDongs are not a good side unlike Charlton, Doncaster and Fleetwood who we played in our last 3 games and are eminently beatable if we all pull together and cut out the defensive/goalkeeping errors (yes I say the same every week and yet here we are!).






Let's not dismiss them too early as they comfortably beat Sunderland away and have Cameron Jerome up front assuming he's fit


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, December 28, 2020, 13:20:32
I don't think he cares as much as others would care if they were in charge but it is what it is. I do agree with Tans tbh i get the impression at times we are like a sinking ship and then professional pride just kicks in


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 28, 2020, 13:34:40
It's a funny old game.

I see a group of players that are fighting but are just missing a couple of pieces that would hold them together better as a team.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, December 28, 2020, 14:07:14
And like I said a week or so ago on another thread somewhere...

If the teams around us are as bad as they are but have had their strongest team available more often than not then we should be OK if our better players that have come back and those due to come back stay fit for a good amount of time.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 28, 2020, 14:23:57
I see it similar to FH.

I think we are just a couple of players away from being a solid L1 team, no one side have outplayed us for a whole 90 mins even though listening to some of our fans we have been played off the pitch consistantly in every game, even the ones we won.

Some teams we have played, Rochdale, Rovers, Oxford, Northampton, Shrewsbury and for much of the game Gills were as poor a team as we saw last season in L2.

If we tighten up that defence and stop making 1 or 2 defensive/goalkeeping mistakes every game we will be top half comfortably.

Our individual slip ups so far have probably cost us 15 point at least and with our players all returning to fitness hopefully that will stop and competition for places improves.

Anyway....

Here is a view of the upcoming game from the Dongs fans perspective.

https://mkdsa.org.uk/2020/12/28/in-focus-swindon-town/


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 28, 2020, 15:17:33
my assessment based on what I've seen - relegation fodder.

not much up front. more holy than the Pope at the back

But things can and do change very quickly. I'm not writing us off yet


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, December 28, 2020, 15:19:46
An Ode to Those Who've Seen it All Before

It's the hope that gets you, but we'll win.
90+6mins, maybe in off Tyler Smith's shin.
But it's the hope that gets you,
The hope that gets you.

January is still Winter. Sales are made via Odimayo.
Only to be replaced by someone from the Congo called Kasongo.
But it's the hope that gets you,
The hope that gets you.

It's the hope that gets you, when Town win two on the bounce.
Suddenly players leave - they've only gone and done a fucking flounce.
But it's the hope that gets you,
The hope that gets you. 

Roll out of bed, dishevelled yet fresh on an icy morn.
To find out the news via the TEF; now full of scorn.
But it's the hope that gets you,
The hope that gets you.

Ohh it's the hope that gets you, sitting your ass on that cold flapback seat!
Kovar(ch?) saves divinely in his last game for Town. Like Banks, he is Godly. An incredible feat.
But it is the hope that gets you,
The hope. That gets you.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, December 28, 2020, 15:44:27
Relegation without a whimper. Such a waste of a good opportunity this season too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 28, 2020, 17:13:21
Jonny Smith, Joel Grant and Lyden all close to play some part tomorrow.

All other injured players very close apart from Iandolo.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 10:02:17
Draw 1-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 10:30:06
Won a match pass on the rewards app last week after the portsmouth game was postponed. Tried to redeem it for this game and the code is invalid. They are treating the portsmouth game as the next game even though it was postponed, rendering the code useless as it only lasts for a week and the portsmouth game hasnt even been rearranged. Useless


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:24:02
Sheridan lost his mum and dad over the Xmas period, I think he should be cut some slack over the lack of attendance at times:

https://twitter.com/WaterfordFCie/status/1343877277986287616?s=20



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:29:02
Jeez that's awful. Think all but the most troglodytic of Town fans will be forgiving of a few missed press conferences in those circumstances.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:38:49
Quote from: tans
Won a match pass on the rewards app last week after the portsmouth game was postponed. Tried to redeem it for this game and the code is invalid. They are treating the portsmouth game as the next game even though it was postponed, rendering the code useless as it only lasts for a week and the portsmouth game hasnt even been rearranged. Useless

can you at least buy the Portsmouth game now - so you have it ready for the rearranged fixture?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:46:41
can you at least buy the Portsmouth game now - so you have it ready for the rearranged fixture?

I dont think it is listed at the moment as not been rearranged


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:52:20
Think he lost his mum in late November but his Dad is more recent. It's only been more public knowledge recently (and the above from Waterford further confirms this) and I also know I have been a most damning critic at times. I won't be less damning in my opinion of the man's abilities (in post) but I do have a heart and can separate the man from the manager.

I recently had discussion with Andrew Hawes off the record but won't go into detail here. For context, it was AH who invited me to message him. I didn't seek out to DM the BBC Journalist.

JH is here to do a job but if time away is needed then it should be granted. In these circumstances, of course it's only right to wish condolences to JS and all directly connected with him. Any time of year is awful but Christmas always seems a little more so. Likely because in this ever speedily world, it is one of the few times of the year that we get chance to spend with or focus more on those that we love dearly x


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:19:13
Won a match pass on the rewards app last week after the portsmouth game was postponed. Tried to redeem it for this game and the code is invalid. They are treating the portsmouth game as the next game even though it was postponed, rendering the code useless as it only lasts for a week and the portsmouth game hasnt even been rearranged. Useless

I got a code for tonight's game that I won you can try if you like? it's now worthless to me as I already have access with my season ticket. Be better if you can use it when you like etc.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:20:50
if that doesn't work, DM me on Twitter tans


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:39:04
I got a code for tonight's game that I won you can try if you like? it's now worthless to me as I already have access with my season ticket. Be better if you can use it when you like etc.

It's probably to deter people from collecting them and selling them on. Not that I've won anything yet. Keep getting that empty box on the spinny wheel. Barstards!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:57:41
Cheers blinkpip, worked a treat


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 13:23:56
Would love to think we could get the three points here, suppose it's possible if click as we have in a few previous games, other than their win over BRovers at the weekend they've not been that impressive this season, they are certainly beatable. Suppose draw would be acceptable if we don't perform well,  (and it's a Tuesday night)  really need three points here as that gap at the bottom is starting to show.
A good win tonight could see us out of the relegation zone.       COYR COYR


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 14:34:46
Would love to think we could get the three points here, suppose it's possible if click as we have in a few previous games, other than their win over BRovers at the weekend they've not been that impressive this season, they are certainly beatable. Suppose draw would be acceptable if we don't perform well,  (and it's a Tuesday night)  really need three points here as that gap at the bottom is starting to show.
A good win tonight could see us out of the relegation zone.       COYR COYR

Pretty please with sugar on top!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 14:35:33
Our price to win tonight has moved out to nearly 3/1. Do we have a new injury crisis or something?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 14:37:53
Our price to win tonight has moved out to nearly 3/1. Do we have a new injury crisis or something?
Nope, just loads of Swindon fans betting against us getting a win I would think.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 14:43:01
I see it similar to FH.

I think we are just a couple of players away from being a solid L1 team, no one side have outplayed us for a whole 90 mins even though listening to some of our fans we have been played off the pitch consistantly in every game, even the ones we won.

Some teams we have played, Rochdale, Rovers, Oxford, Northampton, Shrewsbury and for much of the game Gills were as poor a team as we saw last season in L2.

If we tighten up that defence and stop making 1 or 2 defensive/goalkeeping mistakes every game we will be top half comfortably.

Our individual slip ups so far have probably cost us 15 point at least and with our players all returning to fitness hopefully that will stop and competition for places improves.

Anyway....

Here is a view of the upcoming game from the Dongs fans perspective.

https://mkdsa.org.uk/2020/12/28/in-focus-swindon-town/

I shouted 'fuck off you prick!' when reading the first paragraph....all good after that.

Everybody hates your club....


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 14:46:59
I shouted 'fuck off you prick!' when reading the first paragraph....all good after that.

Everybody hates your club....
:D yeah like we are the only ones who hate them!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 16:58:03
An abomination of a club. I wish them defeat every match they play.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 16:59:52
I hope they go bust never to return


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 17:59:27
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqa3vmXW8AIaHtX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:01:41
No J.Smith...injured  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:03:58
No J.Smith...injured  :hmmm:
Wright said he was having a late fitness test before the game as was Lyden and Joel Grant, only Lyden has passed the test by the look of it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:05:51
How long will it take Pitman to get fit!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:06:59
How long will it take Pitman to get fit!
You know the song "Joey Beauchump on a peice of string?" its the same length as that peice of string!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:07:50
You know the song "Joey Beauchump on a peice of string?" its the same length as that peice of string!

Don't remind me JJ :no:


Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:09:07
Dean Lewington still going.

God I hate him, for reasons unknown


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:15:01
How long will it take Pitman to get fit!

About August I think.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:16:56
Dean Lewington still going.

God I hate him, for reasons unknown
I can think of several reasons to hate him, all valid. Good player in his day but aging a bit now.

Lets start with being a nasty bastard who has been sent off twice against us, both at the CG.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:19:23
Ben Gladwin starts but no place for Louis Thompson today as he recovers from another nasty injury.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:21:38
About August I think.

He'll be too tired for next season pre-season😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:25:13
I can think of several reasons to hate him, all valid. Good player in his day but aging a bit now.

Lets start with being a nasty bastard who has been sent off twice against us, both at the CG.
Three’s a charm!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:27:06
Wright said he was having a late fitness test before the game as was Lyden and Joel Grant, only Lyden has passed the test by the look of it.

Thanks for that JJ, for a moment I was thinking Stevens had been retained and J.Smith sent back  :(


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:27:20
It will be interesting to see how Gladwin plays as he scored a good goal against the Gas a few days ago


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:28:02
Louis Thompson today as he recovers from another nasty injury.

That lad's had no luck.

Such a shame for him, a great player. Better than his brother.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:30:01
Thanks for that JJ, for a moment I was thinking Stevens had been retained and J.Smith sent back  :(
I hope its the exact opposite of that scenario!

That lad's had no luck.

Such a shame for him, a great player. Better than his brother.
Far better player than Nathan, he does seem to get a lot of injuries, hes still young but injuries take their toll, I hope he gets over this one.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:34:19
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqa3vmXW8AIaHtX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Centre half a-go-go


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:36:03
Centre half a-go-go

Its ok we still have a centre back on the bench if we lose one ;)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:40:04
Oddly Franchise have 2 keepers on their bench. Are they trolling us?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:54:50
Oddly Franchise have 2 keepers on their bench. Are they trolling us?
No they only have 6 subs and every fit player is on the bench, 10 injuries apparently.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 18:59:42
Some serious experience in their side.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:01:06
Odimayo gives away a free kick, a soft needless free kick on the edge of the box.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:02:16
Some serious experience in their side.
There is indeed, some used to be pretty decent players too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:03:49
0-1 another fuck up defensively


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:03:56
So sloppy


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:04:05
Fucking hell


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:04:28
We are so fucked.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:05:10
is that fucking Sheridan's fault.  How can  any manager legislate for such shit


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: hobnob on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:05:16
That’s it lads start as u mean to continue, fucking useless shower!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:05:43
Too many players don’t give a shit. Fryers and Baudry just walking out after that like nothing happened, at least try and show you care!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: hobnob on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:07:58
All they need to do is get out of the bottom four before the season gets abandoned, can’t even manage that!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:08:38
I honestly think they DO give a shit. Low in confidence, not good enough for the league right now.

we can turn this game around though


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:09:02
My son came in and saw that. He burst out laughing and said 'That was terrible! That's the worst goal I've ever seen! '


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:09:59
My son came in and saw that. He burst out laughing and said 'That was terrible! That's the worst goal I've ever seen! '

Blimey, don’t let him see the other goals we’ve conceded this season then!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:11:24
The game is far from over but we make it difficult for ourselves all the time, has there been a single league game this season when there hasn't been a woeful error by the defence or keeper?

I am with Batch, thats a confidence problem not an ability problem.

If we can grab a goal the game will turn on its head.



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:11:37
Blimey, don’t let him see the other goals we’ve conceded this season then!

I said a few weeks ago you could set our goals this season to Yakkity Sax from Benny Hill and it would fit perfectly. We concede the shittest goals.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:13:03
The game is far from over but we make it difficult for ourselves all the time, has there been a single league game this season when there hasn't been a woeful error by the defence or keeper?

I am with Batch, thats a confidence problem not an ability problem.

If we can grab a goal the game will turn on its head.


Perhaps

But no evidence on the pitch so far.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:13:10
I honestly think they DO give a shit. Low in confidence, not good enough for the league right now.

we can turn this game around though
I think they did earlier in the season but now have accepted the inevitably and too many are going through the motions now. Another irritation is we seem to have set up ideally for a Williams inspired team, let them have as much time at the back with the ball as they like with zero press.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:14:24
That right winger that sounds like a YouTuber looks dangerous.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:15:33
such low quality from us so far


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:16:05
I ummmd and aaahhhd and gave in three minutes before KO. Bored already.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:16:10
Seems like the lads are still on the Xmas sherry  :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:16:13
The game is far from over but we make it difficult for ourselves all the time, has there been a single league game this season when there hasn't been a woeful error by the defence or keeper?

I am with Batch, thats a confidence problem not an ability problem.

If we can grab a goal the game will turn on its head.

This team is not good enough for league one. We are in the relegation places after over a third of the season. The table doesn’t lie



Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:17:11
the two aren't mutually exclusive mr outlet


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:17:25
Are we playing a sort of asymmetric thing? I'm not really a tactics bod, but Payne seems to be sticking very much on the left hand side and trying to help out Grounds whereas nobody seems to be giving Odimayo the same support with Conroy/Grant/Smith in the middle.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:18:43
This is woeful.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:19:31
Can’t be many sides where an outgoing manager, who has assembled the squad, turns as he leaves as tells the squad that he doesn’t want a relegation on his CV. It’s not surprising that they lack confidence. That really lacked class from Wellens.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:19:48
has Payne got springs in the outside of his boots?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:19:59
This is woeful.
At the moment there are no positives from our performance at all.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:21:05
has Payne got springs in the outside of his boots?
In fairness, M Smith keeps belting it at him.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:21:15
No idea what we’ve been doing in training but not a single one of our players seems able to control the ball first time.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:21:29
What a shit show this is. Horror movie bad. Slow, ponderous lacking any sort of game plan.

God knows how many times we’ve booted the ball straight out of play.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:22:05
has Payne got springs in the outside of his boots?
Even the usually reliable Matt Smith is overhitting all his passes so far too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:22:22
I know it's kind of a needs must thing, but how many players on the pitch are actually in their natural position?

Grounds CB -> LWB
Odimayo CB -> RWB
Payne AMC -> ML
Jayeseimi ML -> FW
Conroy CB -> MF

Probably not a huge surprise we're a bit disjointed. If we're gonna play wing backs surely Rob Hunt needs to be one of them?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:23:00
In fairness, M Smith keeps belting it at him.
Good spot


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:23:36
And if one of Grounds or Fryers plays out wide, you would think it would be Fryers, who can run.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:23:40
Baudry and Fryers more comedy defending.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:23:50
Baudry attempting to sell Fryers right up the river there, jesus.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:24:38
In fairness, M Smith keeps belting it at him.

That's how they are coached to pass, a pro should be able to control it, and should be used to it..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:25:05
What a shit show this is. Horror movie bad. Slow, ponderous lacking any sort of game plan.

God knows how many times we’ve booted the ball straight out of play.

Spot on.
Great move and only 3 Swindon players up front and MKD got everyone back,
Slow and void of ideas.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:25:14
getting fed up of writing the same shit every match thread. the most infuriating thing about these results is that we genuinely have the personel available to push teams, attack them and score goals.

we set up negative Both home and away, we overlook attacking fullbacks in our lineups and we bypass the midfield to our isolated strikers.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:26:19
We need a completely new back four.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:27:17
Can’t be many sides where an outgoing manager, who has assembled the squad, turns as he leaves as tells the squad that he doesn’t want a relegation on his CV. It’s not surprising that they lack confidence. That really lacked class from Wellens.

I wasn’t aware he said that?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:27:20
Kovar on an away day again!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:27:40
0-2 Shocking keeping by Kovar


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:27:43
that's why we are going down

fucking shit


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:27:53
Unbelievable!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:28:04
Fucking clown


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:28:22
that's why we are going down

fucking shit
That's why he's going back!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:28:41
This is worse then Accrington game.

No passion. No imagination. So poor.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:28:48
Good ball that from Gladwin.

We need to change tactics pronto or this could get... well, it's already embarrassing. But more so.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:29:01
0-2 Shocking keeping by Kovar

Like a fucking ice hockey keeper.
Absolutely shit and needs peddling.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:29:45
Kovars is down to Wellens.  But how can Sheridan tolerate this sleepfest.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:30:00
Kovar not covered himself in glory but that's a goal caused entirely by the fact that Odimayo appears to be the only player on our entire right wing. We're loading up our left side (presumably to nullify Paul?) and Lewington & co. are monstering us down their left instead. Really well executed from the the three MK players involved though.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:30:03
Worst 1st half performance since Northampton as they were a shit side too, havent looked in the game at all yet.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:30:35
I thought Kovar would reach that easily. Then he decided to go down on his arse a yard from the ball.

What a bunch of fucking chumps.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:30:40
Take him off and put an outfield player in goal as he can take do any worse


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:30:59
This has got to be the most inept Swindon team in years..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:31:13
I just don't see anything, bar one or two players that tells me we are staying up this season..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:31:21
Quote from: RedRag
Kovars is down to Wellens.  But how can Sheridan tolerate this sleepfest.

I hope he isn't.

I'd have 3 off now tbh


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:31:42
Take him off and put an outfield player in goal as he can take do any worse
Good suggestion.

We have 10 outfielders we wouldn't miss.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:32:06
Good suggestion.

We have 10 outfielders we wouldn't miss.

 :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:32:39
Surely Hunt has to come on. And Pitman. And, I hate to say it, Stevens as well.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:33:42
I thought Kovar would reach that easily. Then he decided to go down on his arse a yard from the ball.
You have more confidence than I have in Kovar, I didn't think for 1 minute he would stop it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:34:29
Once again we have to try to come from 2 down. Once again the oppo don't need to do much to be in front


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:34:34
Let's face it. If this lot were any good, they wouldn't be here!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:36:20
Looks like they’ve given up, tbh.

Surely someone can at least get them organised. This is haphazard, dishevelled shite.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:36:38
Christ, how uphill a battle must it seem to the players after conceding sloppy early goals every game?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:36:44
Many hate him but does anyone think PDC would have refrained from a substitution.

Not that I ever saw a whole side of his go out with so little intent.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:07
Its like Accrington all over again, but Accrington were a decent side, this lot aren't we are just making them look like world beaters today.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:16
1-2 Payne, 25 yarder.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:30
What a fucking goal that is


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:39
Fuck yes!!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:43
Many hate him but does anyone think PDC would have refrained from a substitution.

Not that I ever saw a whole side of his go out with so little intent.
What do I know  :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:37:54
Score great goals, concede shit ones. Can we have some additional points for style please?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:38:15
1-2 Payne

'The first Swindon player to do something competant!' says my son.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:38:18
But, we seem to relish uphill battles! 😊


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:38:21
cracking goal from Payne.

will this kick some life into us


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:38:31
Cracking strike.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Rapidflyer on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:38:48
Formation needs to change completely and bring on 2 or 3 at half time... very static ...


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:39:02
They are just strolling around us and we cannot do anything about as we are patently not good enough in nearly all departments. Then bloody hell we score a screamer!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:39:33
Odimayo is being torn a new one.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:39:36
The new go faster haircut does the trick.

Game on.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:39:44
Fucking huge gaps between Baudry and Odimayo down our right at the back, they are exploiting it all the time.

1-3


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:07
Fuck me are we social distancing from Cameron Jerome? How did he have so much space?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:11
Looked offside.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:19
Quote from: Batch
cracking goal from Payne.

will this kick some life into us


nope


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:20
Kovar not covered himself in glory but that's a goal caused entirely by the fact that Odimayo appears to be the only player on our entire right wing. We're loading up our left side (presumably to nullify Paul?) and Lewington & co. are monstering us down their left instead. Really well executed from the the three MK players involved though.

At last some resonable comment. Some do have a hate figure and kovar is it at the moment


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:25
Fuck No!!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:34
The new go faster haircut does the trick.

Game on.
Game over


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:41
Dopey odomayo playing Jerome onside


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:40:58
1-3 Jesus H Christ!

Don't bother fucking marking him then!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:41:04
Parting of the Red Sea


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:41:47

Game on.

 :no:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:41:59
 Odomayo is shit tonight.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:42:06
Just walking pace.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:43:09
Odomayo is shit tonight.

He's defending on his own against three men. Getting absolutely no cover from the centre backs or Conroy/whichever midfielder is meant to be rightmost. He's not playing well, but he's been set up to fail.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:43:26
Just about sums it up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bagIiK1ss4


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Rapidflyer on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:43:40
Replayed that 3 times still looks offside....


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:43:54
No way would a crowd be tolerating these wage stealers.

Sheridan seems to be.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:45:22
At last some resonable comment. Some do have a hate figure and kovar is it at the moment
He is not good enough - Shows it every week!

Odimayo is having a stinker.

Payne is wasted on the left - swung his leg well mind!
DJ is having an Xmas break.
T Smith is offside all the time
Midfield is non existent.
Back 4 look as if they haven't met eachother before!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:45:23
Replayed that 3 times still looks offside....
Yep I agree, looks offside to me too every time I have seen it. Bit like Aneke in the last game.

Ah well.

Changes needed at half time.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:45:33
Grounds looks like the fucking Mummy.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:48:13
Baudry is having a mare.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:48:57
Sorry Sheridan has had a rough Christmas. But the fucking moron needs to be sacked. Every game we get worse. Even bright lights like Matt Smith are now dimmed. Get rid before they allow him to bring players in.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:49:04
Grounds looks like the fucking Mummy.

Mummy moved more.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:49:35
Caddis/Hunt Akin Conroy Fryers

         Grant      Lyden

   Payne    M Smith     DJ

         Pitman/T Smith


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:49:45
I'm not usually one for paying too close attention to tactics but I think today as a tactical problem rather than a performances one. Not that the performances aren't shit.

Our wingbacks are being utterly overrun. We're playing 3.5 central midfielders (with Payne drifting in and Grounds helping out, and nobody helping out Odimayo, when our attacking plan is to bypass them entirely (despite M Smith being by a long way our most talented footballer) and get the ball up quick to Smith and Jaiyesemi who really aren't having much luck on through balls but also aren't target men.

MK are absolutely killing us down both flanks but especially their left/our right. We've loaded the middle and then played the game down the sides, it's absolutely criminal.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:49:58
Diabolical

How are these tossers getting away with it they are stealing a living.

Most of these wouldn’t walk into an average league 2 team


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:50:10
That's the worst of the season.  A six pointer against injury ravaged rivals too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:50:38
Swindon need to make changes - discuss


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:51:23
When you're playing 3 players (Conroy, Payne and DJ) out of position, can you expect anything different?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:51:33
utter wank and a good strike by Payne


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:52:04
When you're playing 3 players (Conroy, Payne and DJ) out of position, can you expect anything different?

Five. Odimayo and Grounds aren't wing backs, even if they can do a job at full back.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:52:25
Swindon need to make changes - discuss

Should have made them 30 minutes ago


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:52:31
‘Bring on the ‘rona’!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:52:46
Quote from: TheDukeOfBanbury
Baudry is having a mare.

i agree with that (so don't blame any mom vote on me).

if only he was the only one


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:52:56
Caddis/Hunt Akin Conroy Fryers

         Grant      Lyden

   Payne    M Smith     DJ

         Pitman/T Smith


Not going to happen. That would require playing people in position, which Shitidan has not done at all. His only success ironically coming because of it with Broadbent.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:53:07
We are terrible defensively, we create very little going forward, we have a manager who seems incompetent, injury prone players, players with no confidence but who also seem not to give much of a shit, players being played out of position, a goalkeeper who is a clown and a team just generally short of any ideas.

If we stay up I’d be fucking amazed.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:53:44
I do have every sympathy for Sheridans bereavement but it agree they need to bring in someone else.

His record since he came in I think is 2 wins and players look like they don’t give a shit.

Not sure he should be given the transfer window in Jan


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:53:53
What a load of shit that was.  Franchise are  nothing special yet have managed to put 3 past Kovar without breaking a sweat. I cant think of one player that comes out of that half with any credit.  Sheridan has his work cut out at half time


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:53:58
Five. Odimayo and Grounds aren't wing backs, even if they can do a job at full back.

Thought we were playing 5 at the back with Odimayo and Payne at wing back. Would say Grounds is a LCB but yeah Odimayo isn't a wing back either


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:54:23
Five. Odimayo and Grounds aren't wing backs, even if they can do a job at full back.
Odimayo has had some decent outings at WB - unlike Grounds.  But he is young, sleepy and in need of a good more help from a vaguely competent defence.  I'd tolerate Grounds at LWB if ever we were in the lead or holding our own but he is zilch otherwise in that position.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:54:29
I think it’s time for a new manager. We have the players to stay up and compete in this league.

Under Wellens we were suspect defensively but looked like scoring.

3-1 flatters Swindon and the goal we scored was a fantastic strike which Payne would score 1 in 10 times.

Really depressing this is.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:55:09
I do have every sympathy for Sheridans bereavement but it agree they need to bring in someone else.

His record since he came in I think is 2 wins and players look like they don’t give a shit.

Not sure he should be given the transfer window in Jan

Spot on.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:55:44
Feels like the whole club has just given up. Players and management going through the motions, ownership non existent. I think I’m going going to follow suit and try not to get too emotionally invested for the rest of the season. Too many players on that pitch look like they know they are off in January.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:55:49
That's the worst of the season.  A six pointer against injury ravaged rivals too.
This. We are making them look good which they really aren't.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:55:56
We are terrible defensively, we create very little going forward, we have a manager who seems incompetent, injury prone players, players with no confidence but who also seem not to give much of a shit, players being played out of position, a goalkeeper who is a clown and a team just generally short of any ideas.

If we stay up I’d be fucking amazed.

How has it come to this. We looked good going forward at the start of the season. We made mistakes, but had injuries. Now we are shit everywhere. We dont have great players but they can do better. Powers appointment of Sheridan has wrecked out fucking season.

I hope the BBC interviewer after the match actually ask some proper questions about what that brain donor thinks he is doing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:56:18
Quote from: REDBUCK
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Kovar not covered himself in glory but that's a goal caused entirely by the fact that Odimayo appears to be the only player on our entire right wing. We're loading up our left side (presumably to nullify Paul?) and Lewington & co. are monstering us down their left instead. Really well executed from the the three MK players involved though.
At last some resonable comment. Some do have a hate figure and kovar is it at the moment

this

Palmer, twine and a new keeper will have to be superhuman.

one up front with t. Smith is pointless.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:56:31
Caddis/Hunt Akin Conroy Fryers

         Grant      Lyden

   Payne    M Smith     DJ

         Pitman/T Smith

Don't disagree too much. Fryers to LB to counter Pauls pace. Conroy out of midfield to CB with Odimayo.

Then we can dispense with Baudry lunging forward, miscontrolling and leaving us exposed. Hunt or Caddis attacking down the right would be preferable.

Problem is, there is no creativity to feed Pitman in this line up.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:56:38
I’m not expecting any new players apart from a keeper and the 2 returning loanees- who, no doubt, will be delighted to come back.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:05
My thoughts were that this game could prove to be the turning point for the remainder of the season. Unfortunately it could well be.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Rapidflyer on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:12
Yep I agree, looks offside to me too every time I have seen it. Bit like Aneke in the last game.

Ah well.

Changes needed at half time.

Midfield is not in it, I would bring on Stevens & Hunt and take off Conroy & Grounds/Fryers (switching dependant on who is replaced) there is zero pace in the middle and switch to 451 or 433


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:13
Thought we were playing 5 at the back with Odimayo and Payne at wing back. Would say Grounds is a LCB but yeah Odimayo isn't a wing back either

Yeah sorry I keep telling myself Grounds is playing left wing back, which isn't the case but he's definitely playing close to Payne on the left than Baudry is to Odimayo on the right. I can't quite work out whether we're playing deliberately asymetrical or are just that bad.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:19
A fucking farce of a club, with a farce of team playing in a farce of a year = this.

At least Grounds has been passed the Dunces cap to wear.  He has played at a higher level, so must have ability, but he is strolling around like he has no focus or clue at all.  I just don't think his mind is on playing at all.  Could be personal circumstances given Covid, no idea, but it creates a problem for us to have to play him.

Baudry is showing why he gets jettisoned when team get promoted.  He's an OK ball player and a poor defender.  At a lower level the latter is  hidden I guess.

Odimayo is being swamped but the bench have done nothing to change it.

Payne, goal aside, has played like a player who has no clue how to play left wing back.  The central defenders are playing like they have no idea how to play as a back three - possibly because at times Grounds goes out left for a wander and looks like he is trying to hold hands with Payne.

Management team that has managed to undo anything good that Wellens left.  A team playing as individuals with no clue what their jobs are or how we are supposed to attack as a unit.

May as well just pretend we have Covid for the rest of the season to be honest.  There is a half decent first XI when all are fit, but we can't rely on getting it out often enough and we seem like we have a Management team that is as rudderless as the club seems.

All that should make me angry, but this season just seems pointless.  It's like watching training sessions every week.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:44
I noted that the ref was supposedly card happy.

We've been so lack lustre, he's hardly been troubled.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:57:53
Fuck me this is utter dogshit. Payne and Odimayo getting torn to shreds on the wings, Baudry doing what Baudry does best (making stupid fucking decisions and attempting to play long balls that never make their destination).

Overall, we're looking fat and lazy like we've eaten a Christmas lunch. No energy, no pressing, no desire. Completely flat, optionless and a blunt tool.

Why the fuck Caddis is sat on the bench and how Baudry still gets a starting place is beyond me.

The first time this season I genuinely feel concerned about our prospects.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crispy on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:58:44
I do have every sympathy for Sheridans bereavement but it agree they need to bring in someone else.

His record since he came in I think is 2 wins and players look like they don’t give a shit.

Not sure he should be given the transfer window in Jan

Could well be wrong, but, I was under the impression that Power has given Sheridan the job until the club is sold. I don't really think we're in a position financially to change that, are we?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 19:59:20
Court case 15th Feb- really can’t come quickly enough


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:02:17
Could well be wrong, but, I was under the impression that Power has given Sheridan the job until the club is sold. I don't really think we're in a position financially to change that, are we?

Not sure thats ever been said explicitly. Power wants to sell and Sheridan is employed until the end of the season. So it makes sense though.

However. Who the hell buys a football club in the current climate? Nobody. Its worth even less if/when we get relegated. No easy way to get out of league 2 with wage caps now.



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:02:57
All that should make me angry, but this season just seems pointless.  It's like watching training sessions every week.
This.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:05:07
3 subs on.. Thank fuck for that!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:05:33
Pitman, Hunt and Stevens for Grant (!), T Smith and Odimayo


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:05:38
Oh for the days when you followed the game on teletext and didn’t have to actually watch it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:06:37
4-2-3-1 with players largely restored to their natural positions.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:07:38
Still can’t believe Caddis isn’t better than most of these.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:08:01
Grounds injured?


Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:08:19
Quote
3 subs on.. Thank fuck for that!
and now grounds is fucked!

caddis time


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:09:10
Caddis RB, Hunt LB after his 90 seconds at right back.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:09:28
would have made that sub anyway (caddis for Grounds)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:09:55
M smith in the Grant Role


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:13:22
That's the worst of the season.  A six pointer against injury ravaged rivals too.

I don't now how many relegation battles you've been through but each one follows the same pattern. We always fail to win the 6 pointers when an escape route shows its self. A defeat today and dropped points against Wigan will only confirm it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:14:25
We look a lot better in this formation.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:15:01
M Smith is so far ahead of any other town player it is a joke..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:15:22
fucking hell - some football


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:18:26
We actually look to have a shape this half so far


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:18:42
Wigan have already scored 4 at Burton 😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:19:01
Lovely bit of footwork and a cross from Pitman popping up on the left wing. Industry from the PPP!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:20:29
Wigan have already scored 4 at Burton 😁

Burton have scored 3 as well though


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:22:45

Burton have scored 3 as well though

 Yeah but we struggle to score these days😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:23:59
Joe Mason on for Gladwin. MK still clearly want to attack.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:24:22
Yeah but we struggle to score these days😁

Tru dat


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:24:50
Er, that was a penalty. Kovar dodgy first touch then makes a tackle to recover under pressure, given as a throw. He looked guilty as fuck.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:25:01
that looked a pen there from the TV angle


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:25:41
Definate pen, Kovar lucky to get away with that, fortunately for us.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:26:22
Penalty that.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:26:52
Definate pen, Kovar lucky to get away with that, fortunately for us.
How many more chances are we going to give that Fucking Clown ??


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:27:43
Payne looks ten times the player further forward. No defensive aptitude whatsoever but there's skill there. Pitman looks as bright as I've seen him in a Town shirt too, and Conroy/Hunt are distributing well. It's 45 minutes late but we look a good side now.

How many more chances are we going to give that Fucking Clown ??

None, if you believe the papers.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:28:30
More movement this half.
Sheridan needs to take stock of this.
Hunt and Caddis as wing backs a must.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:29:30
And keep fucking off Baudry.  :crash:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:29:54
The thing that annoys me with this negative defensive set up is that you can't win games without scoring even if you somehow keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good setting up to be more secure defensively but when you are still shit at the back and now have no attacking threat it's piss poor management!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:30:30
FFS. close.

oh offside anyway


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:30:39
Good little corner routine, Fryers nods it wide from an offside position.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:30:52
Well by accident or purpose we seem to have found a formation that actually looks ok.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:31:17
The thing that annoys me with this negative defensive set up is that you can't win games without scoring even if you somehow keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good setting up to be more secure defensively but when you are still shit at the back and now have no attacking threat it's piss poor management!
More attacking threat now than the first half.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:31:44
Pitman looks worth his place though.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:32:06
Get Lyden in the side and Twine when he’s back.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:32:10
really knocking on the door now


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:32:30
Conroy must start centre half.
So much better than anything else we have.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:32:48
Well by accident or purpose we seem to have found a formation that actually looks ok.
Seems that way but if this 11 started Saturday would the performance be the same ?.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:03
More attacking threat now than the first half.
Exactly but it's too late now. We start negatively with no urgency, let the game pass us by and now we are left chasing 2 goals just to get a point.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:13
More attacking threat now than the first half.

Our defence always look steadier once they’ve let three in.


Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:22
only 1 way to find out theakston. start this team Saturday


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:31
Who is this Brett Pitman and can he stick around for the rest of the season please? His control and build up play are night and day from what we've seen previously.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:44
Seems that way but if this 11 started Saturday would the performance be the same ?.
Highly doubtful!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:33:49
Isn’t it amazing that when you have your best centre backs and full backs on the pitch and players in correct positions you look a better side.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:35:01
I think this proves that we need to go back to the basics of as close as possible what worked last season, at least there would be some sort of familiarity which will help with confidence.

Caddis/Hunt FB's
Conroy/Fryers/Akin CB's
Grant/Lyden/Conroy DM's
M Smith - Doughty Role
DJ/J Smith/Payne/Stevens/Hope - AM's
Pitman/T.Smith/Hope - ST's

4-2-3-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:35:25
Isn’t it amazing that when you have your best centre backs and full backs on the pitch and players in correct positions you look a better side.
You may be on to something there!....Mr Sheridan....


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:35:36
Isn’t it amazing that when you have your best centre backs and full backs on the pitch and players in correct positions you look a better side.
Crazy !!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:36:22
FFS


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:36:55
Very poor goal to concede.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:36:58
oh fuck off


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:37:15
All very well praising us but I think the Dons should be given some credit for not taking us seriously this half.

And with that...


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:37:54
1-4 Slow motion goal


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:37:56
Hunt lost in the six yard box, then fell over, then watched the ball sail past him. Another rubbish goal.

This game has gone, let's sort the attack out and get some sort of pattern of play going for the next game.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:38:03
I think this proves that we need to go back to the basics of as close as possible what worked last season, at least there would be some sort of familiarity which will help with confidence.

Caddis/Hunt FB's
Conroy/Fryers/Akin CB's
Grant/Lyden/Conroy DM's
M Smith - Doughty Role
DJ/J Smith/Payne/Stevens/Hope - AM's
Pitman/T.Smith/Hope - ST's

4-2-3-1

Agreed, this setting up to keep it tight nonsense doesn't work, we can't do it and don't have the personnel to do it. We've tried, it hasn't worked so go back to plan A. Setting up 'tight' and conceding 4 against another struggling team is a damming indictment on a manager!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:38:25
Game of two halves of course but I'm really for the first time considering betting on Town with handicaps. They certainly look like conceding at least one every game.

I have mentioned several times (like others here) that several of these players are good enough but we see it every time...when a team doesn't want to play under a manager or they aren't happy about whatever might be  going on behind the scenes, they say it with their performances (or lack of).  I genuinely believe many of these players don't want to play under Sheridan.

There is one big positive...at least we didn't pay £18.5m for any of our GKs.

1-4. We're going down without a change of manager/backroom. It won't happen though.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:38:44
Good night all..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:38:53
Bet on Swindon over 4.5 corners at evens as Swindon always seem to win lots of corners.

Was looking a loser at ht but we have won 5 corners this half.

Better performance second half but again a slow start has cost us.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:39:00
This keeper is one of the worse I have ever seen in a Swindon shirt.
Unbelievable how shit his decision making is.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:39:50
Kovar dives in super slow motion.

ANY league keeper should be saving those, I am sorry if some don't agree but thats a bread and butter save for any 6 foot 3 keeper.

He cost us 2 goals today.

This keeper is one of the worse I have ever seen in a Swindon shirt.
Unbelievable how shit his decision making is.
This 100%


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:40:18
This keeper is one of the worse I have ever seen in a Swindon shirt.
Unbelievable how shit his decision making is.
You're picking on him!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:40:22
At least Luke Williams can stick the V's up to Mr Power for the way he was shafted here by himself and slimey Tim


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Processed Beats on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:40:26
This lot are making me hate football all over again.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:41:19
Today looks like a game from the Williams relegation season. Players who can’t really be arsed to do their jobs properly and don’t have enough pride to be embarrassed by their ineptitude.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:42:02
We’ve regressed so far, so quickly that I fear for next season as well. This lot would struggle in L2.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:42:15
If we carry on like this we're struggle to even get 2000 when crowds are let back in😡


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:43:12
Hunt sent off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:43:23
hunt is sent off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:43:48
Red not yellow you idiot.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:43:57
rubbish decision


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:44:19
That was a strange moment.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:44:52
I noted that the ref was supposedly card happy.

We've been so lack lustre, he's hardly been troubled.
Well done Rob Hunt.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:44:52
Definate red, showing his studs to the Dongs players shin. Silly challenge.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:45:24
You're picking on him!

You bastard I just split my beer :)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:45:30
Brilliant! Hunt out for 3 games. But will they be 3 of our games or Salford's?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:45:45
What a shit show.

Be amazed if this lot can stay up.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:46:49
Forgot to mention, has a "manager" ever managed to get two teams relegated* in the same season (that they have managed), because Sheridan is well on his way to this feat.

Loves a red this ref but it also stinks of players not wanting to be a part of the squad. Players will make rash (seemingly weird to the fan) decisions just to distance themselves. You either start getting sent off or have "mysterious" injuries that seem to go on and on and on.

It's not good is it lads.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:47:32
No doubt another set of fans saying we are the worse team they have played.
Sadly I am slowly starting to believe.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:48:03
I’ve always wanted to visit Barrow!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:48:19
Worst team I’ve seen for a long time.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:49:05
Forgot to mention, has a "manager" ever managed to get two teams relegated* in the same season (that they have managed), because Sheridan is well on his way to this feat.

Loves a red this ref but it also stinks of players not wanting to be a part of the squad. Players will make rash (seemingly weird to the fan) decisions just to distance themselves. You either start getting sent off or have "mysterious" injuries that seem to go on and on and on.

It's not good is it lads.

Talking about refs it's a shame Geoff isn't on here to give us his colourful views😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:49:05
You bastard I just split my beer :)

Has it fermented so much that it has become a solid? Maybe it's very cold where you are Duke  :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:49:15
One point from the last six games since the Oxford game, which as great as it was was lucky as fuck.

How bad are Burton?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:51:22
Has it fermented so much that it has become a solid? Maybe it's very cold where you are Duke  :pint:

Fermentation process quicker than our first half movement.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:51:28
After Wigan on Saturday, four of the next five are against sides in the top seven.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:08
Talking about refs it's a shame Geoff isn't on here to give us his colourful views😁

Would be interesting to get a ref's angle.

RapidFlyer is also an ex-ref I believe.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:09
All of the mojo I recovered during the Wellen's period is slowly but surely ebbing away again..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:29
What if nobody actually buys the club? Power can’t fund it without outside investment and he’s fucked over those who, for some bizarre reason, were willing to do so.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:30
No doubt another set of fans saying we are the worse team they have played.
Sadly I am slowly starting to believe.
Every game has had a few positives.

Today there have been none. Great goal by Payne but other than that not 1 good or even solid performance by anyone.

We made a shit side look like world beaters.

Worst performance of the season, we can't have many more of these, if new signings are not made in January then we are doomed, even if they are made we may well be doomed.

If any of the players are not embarressed or hurting after this then they should fuck off to Salford now with the man that signed them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:38
Good save from Fisher. Not too much to expect is it?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:52:52
It's the inevitability that I find depressing


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:53:05
After Wigan on Saturday, four of the next five are against sides in the top seven.

The Great Escape begins :(


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:53:28
Today there have been none. Great goal by Payne but other than that not 1 good solid performance by anyone.

I think Pitman's had his best game in a Town shirt since coming on, and Conroy's been quite good. I'm struggling beyond those two.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:53:53
All of the mojo I recovered during the Wellen's period is slowly but surely ebbing away again..

This is how important a manager is to the club on and off the pitch. Sheridan is and was always the wrong choice. Not sure Power gives a shit, if he did before.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:54:00
8 points from the last 11 games

Playing one up top at home against MK

Dire


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:54:32
One point from the last six games since the Oxford game, which as great as it was was lucky as fuck.

How bad are Burton?
Or Oxford !!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:54:57
Would be interesting to get a ref's angle.

RapidFlyer is also an ex-ref I believe.

I thought rapidFlyer coached youngsters but you may be right


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:55:32
I thought rapidFlyer coached youngsters but you may be right
Yes mate he has and is indeed an ex ref too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:55:45
Fucking shite - if it wasn't for an Ifollow season ticket, I would be staying away for a while..


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:55:54
It feels like we’re drifting to the point that the club can be sold. And we’ve no idea if or when that will happen.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:56:09
Fermentation process quicker than our first half movement.

I think that is a given!

All of the mojo I recovered during the Wellen's period is slowly but surely ebbing away again..

I have felt a little similar just for longer. Keep your pecker up Berni.

Although, Alan "Sheens" Sheehan has just scored to put Northampton 3-1 up v The Dover Gypsies. Even the relegation gap is starting to widen for Town...

FT 1-4
Fuck.Piss.Shit.Megh.Bollocks.Blehh :(


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pewshamrobin on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:57:06
slow train to oblivion... rudderless and slipping to the bottom of the table.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:57:20
I think Pitman's had his best game in a Town shirt since coming on, and Conroy's been quite good. I'm struggling beyond those two.
I feel desperately sorry for Matt Smith, a kid who has never hidden.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:57:51
8 points from the last 11 games

Playing one up top at home against MK

Dire

This and a player not tried and tested at this level let alone no physical presence.
So poor and the squad imbalance is a concern and must changed before we are cut adrift.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:58:38
Not a great challenge by Hunt but I noticed their player had a long mouth at the ref. before he showed the card.

Needed a goal during the good spell but never really looked dangerous.  Basically we are through various reasons well and truly f****d this season.

Not too many players came out of this game very well.



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:58:46
We are the polar opposite of last season. We're down.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 20:59:27
Well, there was a lot wrong with that game. The Payne goal was a bright spot, but it's a pretty thin silver lining.

We must beat Wigan.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:00:07
utter wank.

better second half yes. never really looked like getting back into it, too little too late.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:00:49
Burton Manager gone - Sheridan, show you're a man with balls,  do the same thing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:01:26
No positives for me in that.  This team reminds me of the pre Macari Div 4 side.  Totally inept and boring as hell to watch


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:03:29
If the season goes the distance where an earth are we going to get another 33 points from to get to the Magic 50🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:04:21
That was dreadful - worse than the Luke Williams relegation in 2016.
4 shots on target, 2 in injury time.
Defence non existent, no energy in midfield, no guile or threat up front.
Not sure Hunt deserved a red card.
There were positive aspects to games v Charlton, Doncaster and Fleetwood, but none at all tonight.
Don’t bother with a STFC man of the match thread as none of them deserve it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:04:34
Losing both halves in a ‘must win’ game against relegation rivals underlines just how far away we are from staying up this season.

The club needs a new owner who can appoint a non-stop-gap manager able to build a squad for next season. Fingers crossed it can actually happen.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:05:08
How far is it from Bath to Harrogate?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:08:17
Not going to give ratings for that. Worst collective performance of the year.

Conroy did 'ok'. Pitman looked ok for about 15-20 mins too.

I think I would send back Kovar (Fisher is less experienced and was 100 times better), T Smith (always offside and moaning) and Stevens (offers nothing other than a bit of pace - which seems to have diminished).

We looked better with Hunt and Caddis as wing backs.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:08:34
Quote from: bathford
How far is it from Bath to Harrogate?

5 hours, 2 changes on the train

4 hours, 234 miles by car

yeah I know it was rhetorical, but it's good to start planning


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:10:39
5 hours, 2 changes on the train

4 hours, 234 miles by car

yeah I know it was rhetorical, but it's good to start planning
That's a fucking long way and time to watch this lot next season, if indeed there is one.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:11:01
How long would it take me to drive Kovar back to Manchester ??,  I'm Ready.......


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:12:17
Think the best we can hope for this season is that it is voided.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:13:36
I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if the football club just folds and dies.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:13:42
5 hours, 2 changes on the train

4 hours, 234 miles by car

yeah I know it was rhetorical, but it's good to start planning

Torquay is more appealing 137 miles😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:16:41
I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if the football club just folds and dies.

Oh, do get fucked. It's not like you've been contributing anything for years.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Rapidflyer on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:17:22
2nd half was better as there was far more movement but a real pity Hunt got sent off  !! Couldn't see from the angle if his studs were flat but you normally get a lot of players complaining if it was really bad and only the player was mouthing off, so seemed harsh. Conroy helped moving back into his proper position  and nice to see Lyden back. Far better balance after the flurry of subs but Hunt did make some cracker covering runs which worries me for the Wigan game and it might be worth putting Odimayo into that role and keeping Caddis on the left or vice versa.

I would have swapped DJ and Payne around as I thought DJ got nullified in the 2nd half other than his late shot but irrespective of the result it give some slight positives to take forward but the players need to start gelling together now quickly as a proposed settled side could run out of time.

Let's see this start against Wigan, I have a feeling (no flames please) that its about to change ....

I am a glass half full person.... 8)

Terrible first half though nobody seemed to know their roles at all...


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:17:29
Wright (sounding very angry):
- Will go down if we play like first half. Told the players that at half time
- Some need to wake up or they wont be here. If they perform like that they wont be in football, not just at Swindon
- They are decent footballers on their day.,
- First half effort wasnt acceptable
- You have to run about. When the white thing comes to you you have to pass it to a colleague
- We had no desire or quality
- Total frustration at half time
- If you dont compete then you get what you deserve
- The goals we give away week in week out are poor
- In January we will do something without doubt
- Third goal was offside
- We deserved what we got though as we were played off the park in the first half
- The second half couldnt be worse
- Poor performance. Disappointed
- Dodged question about Kovar.
- Will pick a team that gives us passion, desire and quality
- Didn't see the Hunt challenge, but didnt
- Made a lot of decisions about players after tonight.
- Keep giving bad goals away
- We need to make changes
- Not too sure about the room we have to make changes
- After tonight every position could be changed.
- Very quiet in the changing room. Teams I have played in and coach before would have had arguments in the changing room
- Need more fighters in the squad
- Grounds pulled his calf. Dont know the extent
- Hope is injured. Hopefully back in 2-3 days. Bit of a dead leg
- Football changes quickly. Get 2 or 3 players in and confidence might return.
- There are some good players here, but they have to look at their own performances.
- Wright hopes that we can bring players in


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:21:27
2nd half was better as there was far more movement but a real pity Hunt got sent off  !! Couldn't see from the angle if his studs were flat but you normally get a lot of players complaining if it was really bad and only the player was mouthing off, so seemed harsh. Conroy helped moving back into his proper position  and nice to see Lyden back. Far better balance after the flurry of subs but Hunt did make some cracker covering runs which worries me for the Wigan game and it might be worth putting Odimayo into that role and keeping Caddis on the left or vice versa.

I would have swapped DJ and Payne around as I thought DJ got nullified in the 2nd half other than his late shot but irrespective of the result it give some slight positives to take forward but the players need to start gelling together now quickly as a proposed settled side could run out of time.

Let's see this start against Wigan, I have a feeling (no flames please) that its about to change ....

I am a glass half full person.... 8)

Terrible first half though nobody seemed to know their roles at all...
Agree about Hunt. He always seems to do a lot of work for the team rather than looking spectacular himself. Defenders normally do well when you don't notice them. That is what I have always thought with Hunt and Donahue.

Yes, Payne is only useful when he is given a roving role. Think he's more L2 than L1 though.

DJ seems only to be able to play on the left - He didn't look to be putting in much effort tonight.

I think Kovar, T Smith (terrible body language) and Stevens will be gone.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:21:34
I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if the football club just folds and dies.

I know you're being sarcastic but that might be the best thing to bloody happen in this current environment.

Paul Caddis on the radio talking to Hawes now on BBC.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:22:57
I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if the football club just folds and dies.
Twat.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TownEnder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:24:08
I think it’s in everyone’s best interests if the football club just folds and dies.
Fuck, You must be pissed off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:25:50
- Very quiet in the changing room. Teams I have played in and coach before would have had arguments in the changing
This just confirms what we already knew, too many players don’t give a shit to the extent that they don’t even bother arguing with each other.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:26:47
Caddis:
- A few choice words said in the dressing room
- Going through a tough period
- Need to go through the cliches and go and work hard
- Most disappointing thing of the night was getting back into it then losing the third goal
- We still have 24-28 games left. We have to be better as individuals and as a team.
- Im a great believer that if you work hard then you succeed
- Of course we are angry. We have pride in our work
- The way we are losing is not great
- The older lads need to help pick the younger ones up
- Caddis performances earlier in the season we're good enough
- This was longest he hasnt played for. He wants to work hard and get back in
- Have to be positive and look towards Saturday. Will look at highlights of todays game and look to see what we could do better
- All games are must win. Not just the Wigan one
- There is belief in the dressing room that we will get back to winning ways



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:27:11
Wright (sounding very angry):
- Will go down if we play like first half. Told the players that at half time
- Some need to wake up or they wont be here. If they perform like that they wont be in football, not just at Swindon
- They are decent footballers on their day.,
- First half effort wasnt acceptable
- You have to run about. When the white thing comes to you you have to pass it to a colleague
- We had no desire or quality
- Total frustration at half time
- If you dont compete then you get what you deserve
- The goals we give away week in week out are poor
- In January we will do something without doubt
- Third goal was offside
- We deserved what we got though as we were played off the park in the first half
- The second half couldnt be worse
- Poor performance. Disappointed
- Dodged question about Kovar.
- Will pick a team that gives us passion, desire and quality
- Didn't see the Hunt challenge, but didnt
- Made a lot of decisions about players after tonight.
- Keep giving bad goals away
- We need to make changes
- Not too sure about the room we have to make changes
- After tonight every position could be changed.
- Very quiet in the changing room. Teams I have played in and coach before would have had arguments in the changing room
- Need more fighters in the squad
- Grounds pulled his calf. Dont know the extent
- Hope is injured. Hopefully back in 2-3 days. Bit of a dead leg
- Football changes quickly. Get 2 or 3 players in and confidence might return.
- There are some good players here, but they have to look at their own performances.
- Wright hopes that we can bring players in
Cheers for the summary.

We really are in trouble if the coaching staff don’t know what a ball is.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:27:55
Caddis and Wright seem to have been in different changing rooms. I didn't realise the old "losing the dressing room" phrase was literal.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:29:35
Caddy knows the score.

Woah DV Canio you got some feckin bites there boy. I know you was taking the piss  :eek:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:30:11
This just confirms what we already knew, too many players don’t give a shit to the extent that they don’t even bother arguing with each other.
Caddis actually sort of contradicted Wright to Hawes. He said that some of the younger ones need to be told by the older ones where they have made mistakes. He also said that the older ones aren't without blame. He suggested that some of the older ones were geeing up the others.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:32:32
Agree about Hunt. He always seems to do a lot of work for the team rather than looking spectacular himself. Defenders normally do well when you don't notice them. That is what I have always thought with Hunt and Donahue.

Yes, Payne is only useful when he is given a roving role. Think he's more L2 than L1 though.

DJ seems only to be able to play on the left - He didn't look to be putting in much effort tonight.

I think Kovar, T Smith (terrible body language) and Stevens will be gone.

Sadly with the squad imbalance we are trying to cover positions by playing players out of their favoured roles and it’s costing us dearly.
Unfortunate with Hunt as would have gone with both Hunt and Caddis as wing backs the next game with Conroy and Fryers back to centre half roles (Zeki had a poor first half).

We have Division Two quality players unfortunately in so many positions and need to get lucky in the loan market. Tyler Smith as loan Striker is just a big no.
I would peddle both Kover, Stevens and not sure if we have to keep Tyler Smith but struggle to see what he brings.
Lyden has been a big loss. Jonny Smith and DJ can create but need to be played correctly.
Whilst not a big fan of Pitman we have no other options than to play him as the conventional 9 providing he remains fit.
Do nothing we are down but we can turn this around if we act sooner than later if we can.
Need to bounce back against Wigan...........that tonight particularly first half was so poor.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:32:42
Caddis actually sort of contradicted Wright to Hawes. He said that some of the younger ones need to be told by the older ones where they have made mistakes. He also said that the older ones aren't without blame. He suggested that some of the older ones were geeing up the others.

Caddis is hardly going to call his fellow players gutless cowards is he, I think the evidence on the pitch tells the real story.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:34:16
Caddis and Wright seem to have been in different changing rooms. I didn't realise the old "losing the dressing room" phrase was literal.
I think that Wright might have been having a go at DJ. He said that Hope would likely be available at the weekend and would be involved.

Wright said that there were players who were good on their day, but didnt seem to be trying. That looked a good summary to me of DJ (and possibly Payne - who seems more focused on defending rather than creating anything at the moment).

I also think M Smith didnt look as if he wanted to be here tonight.

Not sure if Grant is still injured, but, to be taken off at half time (if not injured) says a lot.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:37:55
Caddis is hardly going to call his fellow players gutless cowards is he, I think the evidence on the pitch tells the real story.
True. But interesting to hear the difference between the two.

The thing I have noticed during the rest of the season is that the player that comes out says 'exactly' the same as the manager/coach.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:41:15
Cheers for the summary.

We really are in trouble if the coaching staff don’t know what a ball is.
I left that in to show the way that Wright was speaking with distain about the players. He was suggesting that they didn't seem to know what to do with the ball.

Also, you could read into some of the other things said, that there may be some players who don't want to be here, and that he was saying that noone else will want them because they aren't good enough! The only way out of Swindon is to play well to attract other teams to want to sign them. (But I might be making a big leap there)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:44:04
I wonder whether Palmer or Twine might be back for the next game?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:45:09
I look at the squad list and there isn't as many as I thought that I would like to see out the door in January on reflection

The ones I want to see out the door is Kovar, Baudry and Grounds. Curran can fuck off too if we're clearing out the trash.

From that, the gaps I see is:
- a Target man upfront that Pitman and Tyler can play off of,
- winger that can cross - maybe Twine can fill that hole as it sounds inevitable that he's coming back,
- an advanced playmaker that can play those deadly through passes,
- a left-back that can run and cross to replace Donohue,
- a Goalkeeper that gives the backline confidence and marshalls them like a leader.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:48:34
.... that there may be some players who don't want to be here, and that he was saying that noone else will want them because they aren't good enough! The only way out of Swindon is to play well to attract other teams to want to sign them. (But I might be making a big leap there)

Tbh NMH, I think that was just Wright covering his own ass. I still think the main reason is not that several players don't want to be here but that they don't want to play under Sheridan/Wright.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:49:34
I wonder whether Palmer or Twine might be back for the next game?

If I was Twine, I'd be begging to stay at Newport. They'll be above us next season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 21:59:22
Oh and Gladwin must wonder what the fuck has happened to this club. On the verge of Championship football a little over 5years ago.

What is sad to ponder briefly on is that Preston are sustained as a mid-table Champ club with forays into their PO positions. Sheffield United are a Premier League club (likely to be a Champ club at minimum). Why is it always Town who seem certain to fucking fail whilst the other go on to success.

We do have to ask a question:

Are Town really such a toxic club?

Ughhh.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:01:16
Yes.............. :suicide:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: welshred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:02:19
Oh and Gladwin must wonder what the fuck has happened to this club. On the verge of Championship football a little over 5years ago.

What is sad to ponder briefly on is that Preston are sustained as a mid-table Champ club with forays into their PO positions. Sheffield United are a Premier League club (likely to be a Champ club at minimum). Why is it always Town who seem certain to fucking fail whilst the other go on to success.

We do have to ask a question:

Are Town really such a toxic club?

Ughhh.

Whilst I get your point, football doesn’t really work like that. In general Sheff Utd and Preston are both a fair bit bigger than Swindon and will always average a higher league position than us. We beat Leeds 3-0 twice in a season a few years back and look where they are now.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:03:52
Tbh NMH, I think that was just Wright covering his own ass. I still think the main reason is not that several players don't want to be here but that they don't want to play under Sheridan/Wright.
You are probably right.

If I was Twine, I'd be begging to stay at Newport. They'll be above us next season.
I think we forget, that its all about the money. Twine may want to press on in L1 to get a Championship spot next year, rather than L1. I'm not saying that he is Champ material, but as a professional athlete you have to have confidence in your ability and he has got to be hoping for Premiership at some point!



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:04:08
Swindon fans are victims of supporting a club whose suits operated with a business model that didn't prepare for a worst case scenario - that being no fans coming through the turnstiles. This plus a few other factors.

It's been a perfect storm.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:08:18
The simple answer is their are no local wealthy supporting investors in the club.
Swindon has fucked over everyone who showed any passion to take us forward including Bill Power, Fitton with Black and others.      
Surely someone has got Dysons telephone number ???

 :badmood:  


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:11:38
Just so frustrating and painful.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:15:19
Bloody hell...........

Even they have moved out

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/22/dyson-to-move-company-hq-to-singapore


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:22:30
It just comes as a shock to sense such an on field malaise so soon after a great season.

It's all very 2010-11 - without Charlie Austen!

When good players turned to shit (Douglas, Cuthbert, JPM) and were supplemented by useless twats like Prutton, Dossevi and Pericard, leaving promising youngsters like Ritchie to give it their best shot in hopeless circumstances.  

They say it's the hope that kills you but even that evaporated before we knew it under Hart.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:24:13
Bloody hell...........

Even they have moved out

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/22/dyson-to-move-company-hq-to-singapore

With Honda going too that just leaves us with Lidl & Aldi as the prosperous company's in Swindon😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:25:20
Having digested that, am really starting to fall out of love with this. Have supported the town since around 05, have never seen us higher than this division. Was really getting my hopes up as last years team was a proper outfit (great group of players, management and a sense of the club going somewhere). It's around the 3/4 time that the 1 step forward, 3 steps back has happened, but the losses are hurting less - I was laughing at how bad we were today. Without being able to go to the games, it's the perfect recipe for disillusion.  


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:25:25
Whilst I get your point, football doesn’t really work like that. In general Sheff Utd and Preston are both a fair bit bigger than Swindon and will always average a higher league position than us. We beat Leeds 3-0 twice in a season a few years back and look where they are now.

I admit both those teams have larger fanbases and are larger infrastructures in terms of overall club but ok then how about these:

Fucking Burnley
Leicester
Brighton
Fulham
Norwich
Swansea
Bourn fucking mouth
Brentford
Watford
Reading
Barnsley
Bristol City
Fucking Huddersfield
Bloody Luton
Cardiff fucking City
Wycombe wanking Wanderers
Lincoln pissing City
Doncaster Rovers
Accrington fucking Stanley (who the hell are they?!)
Fleetwood bastarding Town

Some of those higher up I know have had some great success (Leicester obviously) and managed to sustain it (or yoyo between Prem & Champ. But why the fuck does it have to be Town that haven't been able to sustain it. I don't need Town to be Premier League but sustained even as a bottom 12 Champ club would do. With an occasional sniff of PL exploits but nope, Town teeter yet again on basement footy; a division even shitter than this one.

I know for every "successful" club we can probably name ten "rubbish" but it always seems like Town just do not get a fucking break. Well not for near on 30 years now. We are due some good fortune and I don't just mean being able to hang on in L1. It's not even about over egging any aspirations. Look at those teams above. They have all gone on (or will go on) to some sustained success higher up the food chain. I despair. Town does deserve better than this. Even 5years seems a long time ago now. At least Town were competing for something - now they have become nondescript.

Newport, FVR, Chelt & Exeter could all be in a league above Town next season. Would love to know Reg's thoughts on a Town potentially playing in a JPT version of the Wales & West mini League (whilst those three advance to the League Cup version). Fucking hell Town.

"There is no manney shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn"



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:28:00
With Honda going too that just leaves us with Lidl & Aldi as the prosperous company's in Swindon😁
Think you may be forgetting the local Food Bank.

(apologies for the bad taste, I'm normally more sensitive)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:29:45
Think you may be forgetting the local Food Bank.

(apologies for the bad taste, I'm normally more sensitive)

It's ok you're angry after tonight's showing!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:30:38
I admit both those teams have larger fanbases and are larger infrastructures in terms of overall club but ok then how about these:

Fucking Burnley
Leicester
Brighton
Fulham
Norwich
Swansea
Bourn fucking mouth
Brentford
Watford
Reading
Barnsley
Bristol City
Fucking Huddersfield
Bloody Luton
Cardiff fucking City
Wycombe wanking Wanderers
Lincoln pissing City
Doncaster Rovers
Accrington fucking Stanley (who the hell are they?!)
Fleetwood bastarding Town

Some of those higher up I know have had some great success (Leicester obviously) and managed to sustain it (or yoyo between Prem & Champ. But why the fuck does it have to be Town that haven't been able to sustain it. I don't need Town to be Premier League but sustained even as a bottom 12 Champ club would do. With an occasional sniff of PL exploits but nope, Town teeter yet again on basement footy; a division even shitter than this one.

I know for every "successful" club we can probably name ten "rubbish" but it always seems like Town just do not get a fucking break. Well not for near on 30 years now. We are due some good fortune and I don't just mean being able to hang on in L1. It's not even about over egging any aspirations. Look at those teams above. They have all gone on (or will go on) to some sustained success higher up the food chain. I despair. Town does deserve better than this. Even 5years seems a long time ago now. At least Town were competing for something - now they have become nondescript.

Newport, FVR, Chelt & Exeter could all be in a league above Town next season. Would love to know Reg's thoughts on a Town potentially playing in a JPT version of the Wales & West mini League (whilst those three advance to the League Cup version). Fucking hell Town.

"There is no manney shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn"



You forgot Blackburn!


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:31:54
Having digested that, am really starting to fall out of love with this. Have supported the town since around 05, have never seen us higher than this division. Was really getting my hopes up as last years team was a proper outfit (great group of players, management and a sense of the club going somewhere). It's around the 3/4 time that the 1 step forward, 3 steps back has happened, but the losses are hurting less - I was laughing at how bad we were today. Without being able to go to the games, it's the perfect recipe for disillusion.  
I think you have to put this into perspective. We are a team that bounces between L1 and L2 with the odd flirtation higher up once in a blue moon.

This season is all about challenging at the bottom of the table. The last few games have shown us that  we aren't far off a bad team. I think I would have preferred us to have been playing a top of the table team after the enforced Christmas break. If we'd lost that in this manner we would have taken it.

However, to have been thrashed at home by a poor team challenging at the bottom with us, was hard to take.

I don't think we have enough for mid-table mediocrity this year. I'm just hoping that we can put up a fight. If we go down, then we have the prospect of a rebuild and potential to be challenging near the top or for play offs in the next couple of seasons - which would bring back the feel good factor as quickly as it has evaporated this year.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:31:59
Having digested that, am really starting to fall out of love with this. Have supported the town since around 05, have never seen us higher than this division. Was really getting my hopes up as last years team was a proper outfit (great group of players, management and a sense of the club going somewhere). It's around the 3/4 time that the 1 step forward, 3 steps back has happened, but the losses are hurting less - I was laughing at how bad we were today. Without being able to go to the games, it's the perfect recipe for disillusion.  
If we'd made no difference to the performance as a crowd, the venting against the players, the manager and above all Mr Power would have been worth the admission.

At least Wright seemed to give a shit, whatever his motivation.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:36:00
Wonder how much room we will have to make the changes we need in Jan.

We need a jobbing L1/L2 keeper, a fit striker to support Pitman
and a Doughty like centre mid minimum in my opinion.

We can likely send some of the loanees back. Kovar and Stevens are the two most likely although there is a case for others  (M Smith excepted).  Fryer contract runs out in Jan.  Was anyone else on such a short term deal?

I would bring back Twine and Palmer to have a look at them in L1. If they are up to it then keep them.  If they are not going to play a significant part then loan them back out.

What happens in Jan will play a big part in how our season unfolds


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:43:48
I admit both those teams have larger fanbases and are larger infrastructures in terms of overall club but ok then how about these:

Fucking Burnley
Leicester
Brighton
Fulham
Norwich
Swansea
Bourn fucking mouth
Brentford
Watford
Reading
Barnsley
Bristol City
Fucking Huddersfield
Bloody Luton
Cardiff fucking City
Wycombe wanking Wanderers
Lincoln pissing City
Doncaster Rovers
Accrington fucking Stanley (who the hell are they?!)
Fleetwood bastarding Town

Some of those higher up I know have had some great success (Leicester obviously) and managed to sustain it (or yoyo between Prem & Champ. But why the fuck does it have to be Town that haven't been able to sustain it. I don't need Town to be Premier League but sustained even as a bottom 12 Champ club would do. With an occasional sniff of PL exploits but nope, Town teeter yet again on basement footy; a division even shitter than this one.

I know for every "successful" club we can probably name ten "rubbish" but it always seems like Town just do not get a fucking break. Well not for near on 30 years now. We are due some good fortune and I don't just mean being able to hang on in L1. It's not even about over egging any aspirations. Look at those teams above. They have all gone on (or will go on) to some sustained success higher up the food chain. I despair. Town does deserve better than this. Even 5years seems a long time ago now. At least Town were competing for something - now they have become nondescript.

Newport, FVR, Chelt & Exeter could all be in a league above Town next season. Would love to know Reg's thoughts on a Town potentially playing in a JPT version of the Wales & West mini League (whilst those three advance to the League Cup version). Fucking hell Town.

"There is no manney shawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn"


"fucking" Reading, surely?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 22:52:08
Wonder how much room we will have to make the changes we need in Jan.

We need a jobbing L1/L2 keeper, a fit striker to support Pitman
and a Doughty like centre mid minimum in my opinion.

We can likely send some of the loanees back. Kovar and Stevens are the two most likely although there is a case for others  (M Smith excepted).  Fryer contract runs out in Jan.  Was anyone else on such a short term deal?

I would bring back Twine and Palmer to have a look at them in L1. If they are up to it then keep them.  If they are not going to play a significant part then loan them back out.


As court case is in Feb (if Power loses then he loses his majority stake) with this in mind I would be surprised to see much of any investment in Jan
What happens in Jan will play a big part in how our season unfolds


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 23:02:27
Suggest the only people feeling worse at the moment are  

Standing / Barry
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8342913/Former-England-star-Gareth-Barry-broke-strict-FA-rules-invest-800-000-Swindon.html

The Aussie Builder and Power himself

I am at a loss of how this situation will pan out except for tears at bedtime  :suicide:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 23:04:06


I probably didn't explain myself very well.  I was thinking on how we could most easily improve the squad while keeping to our budget.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 23:26:27
I probably didn't explain myself very well.  I was thinking on how we could most easily improve the squad while keeping to our budget.
A keeper would do it. That kid who was playing for MK had less experience, but looked a much better loan than Kovar. With a solid keeper, the defence would look less fragile. With a good keeper (like Benda is) the defence looked solid in L2!

We've then got to be lucky in the loan market to see if we can upgrade T Smith and Stevens for the same money.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: johnritsons toupe on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 23:37:35
I think there's an argument for the club to be more traditionally owned and operated. In the past we've enjoyed success by having a board of wealthy(ish) Directors who have been based closer to the club.

There's never any guarantees, obviously, but groups of successful business people who have an interest in the club tend to be self governing to an extent, have a spread of experience, expertise and wealth. Sure, ego's usually abound too, but that's life.

I'd rather have something along those lines than be at the constant mercy of a narcissist like Power.

Also, now would be a good time for the ground ownership negotiations to be frozen. If people think we're in the shit at the moment - and we are - it'll be a walk in the park compared to Power not owning the club, but having an ongoing substantial stake in the county ground.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 23:37:54
"fucking" Reading, surely?


I considered it, then decided they weren't worthy of the extra print in the newspaper column. Same with Bristol C.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 00:01:47
Oh dear...

We need a small miracle now.

Shame...


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 00:52:15
Summary of last 6 games

P6 W0 D1 L5 F6 A15

1 point out of 18 (5.5%) and a GD of -9

That is pretty shite.

Compared to the previous 14 games

P14 W5 D1 L8 F19 A26

16 points out of 42 (38.1%) and a GD of -7

I can't see it getting better when it has obviously got drastically worse.
League 2 here we come (again)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 01:29:57
Watching the highlights back..

First goal - Conroy didn't cover off the tackle in midfield, which meant Odimayo came forward, overextended himself and fucked us with Baudry and Grounds largely passengers whilst they stood there and watched like they were at the cinema..

Second goal - Baudry was in timbuktwo leaving a massive hole in the middle of defence that a stretchy long bus could have parked in, Conroy tried to come back and save the day but the damage was done.

Third goal... I don't know how blind people can officiate a touchline but fuck me.... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1toaTxd1poIIYadEX5dsttKylM_2QI_Pk/view?usp=sharing

Fourth goal, whats the point...


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 07:29:03
Caddy knows the score.

Woah DV Canio you got some feckin bites there boy. I know you was taking the piss  :eek:

Exaggerated sure

In the current climate the money coming into the club will not cover the outgoings.
We aren’t sustainable at the best of times. Let alone now.
How are we going to survive this?

It would appear owner, manager and players have already given up.

Do you think STFC will still exist this time next year?


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: kirky69 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 07:34:31
Lessons from last nights debacle:-
We are relegation fodder unless immediate changes are made
We need an experienced keeper in now
Play 4 at the back as 3 isn't working
Play players in their natural positions
Give Baudry and A Grant a break from the team
Get Twine back
Cancel Stevens, Kovar and T Smith loans
Any players planning to leave for Salford - get them out now
Get another midfielder and striker in ASAP

Team for Saturday
                     New GK
Caddis Odimayo Conroy Fryers
               M Smith  Lyden
J Smith          Twine         Payne
                    Pitman



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchda
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 08:17:22
thanks for the clarification on the third goal FDB. looks clearly offside

that said, from the TV pictures it looked like kovar got away with a stonewall penalty to my eyesm

Two wrongs don't make a right, and the lino was right next to it so could be wrong

regardless, we were so interior and off the pace in the first half it was embarrassing, we got what we deserved


Title: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchda
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 08:21:08
Quote
Do you think STFC will still exist this time next year?
That is a genuine concern. I guess the hope is the rescue package and grants see us through.

BUT

I think we have another crisis coming up. Season ticket renewals or lack of.

I think it's really difficult to make a case to renew to those that have paid this year but feel pissed off that is not really been recognised with so much as a thank you. At least that I/they've seen.

The club are going to have to be creative somehow. And that's a risk


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 08:45:30
Watching the highlights back..

First goal - Conroy didn't cover off the tackle in midfield, which meant Odimayo came forward, overextended himself and fucked us with Baudry and Grounds largely passengers whilst they stood there and watched like they were at the cinema..

Second goal - Baudry was in timbuktwo leaving a massive hole in the middle of defence that a stretchy long bus could have parked in, Conroy tried to come back and save the day but the damage was done.

Third goal... I don't know how blind people can officiate a touchline but fuck me.... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1toaTxd1poIIYadEX5dsttKylM_2QI_Pk/view?usp=sharing

Fourth goal, whats the point...

I think the ball watching by Baudry, Fryers and Grounds for the "offside" goal was even worse.  No one is anywhere near Jerome when he shoots to score a training ground one on one goal unopposed.  If his shot had hit Kovar, no one is even bothered about a rebound.  That was the story of the whole of the first half.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 08:58:08
It all stems from the top. The players/staff know Power has no interest in running the club and it’s left hanging in the wind until he manages to offload it. I’d imagine nobody wants to work in such an atmosphere of ‘couldn’t care less’ and is desperate to get out.

Easy to say they’re professionals but who’d put a shift in for people you know don’t care whether you win or lose. We get the usual cliches after yet another defeat and stumble on to the next gaming hoping things will change.

The manager, his personal problems aside, is fucking useless and can’t even get a team organised in a recognisable fashion as a team.

I honestly thought last season’s success would be the springboard for a run at the Championship, yet here we are destined to be cast back into the abyss where even L2 survival isn’t guaranteed.

We are truly in the shit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 09:02:55
I think the ball watching by Baudry, Fryers and Grounds for the "offside" goal was even worse.  No one is anywhere near Jerome when he shoots to score a training ground one on one goal unopposed.  If his shot had hit Kovar, no one is even bothered about a rebound.  That was the story of the whole of the first half.

The worst bit for me on that 3rd goal was Jerome was directly in Grounds line of vision but lets the player go only knowing 60-75% sure that he's offside but still let the player run on. Thank god he's injured now


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 09:24:41
It all stems from the top. The players/staff know Power has no interest in running the club and it’s left hanging in the wind until he manages to offload it. I’d imagine nobody wants to work in such an atmosphere of ‘couldn’t care less’ and is desperate to get out.

Easy to say they’re professionals but who’d put a shift in for people you know don’t care whether you win or lose. We get the usual cliches after yet another defeat and stumble on to the next gaming hoping things will change.

The manager, his personal problems aside, is fucking useless and can’t even get a team organised in a recognisable fashion as a team.

I honestly thought last season’s success would be the springboard for a run at the Championship, yet here we are destined to be cast back into the abyss where even L2 survival isn’t guaranteed.

We are truly in the shit.

Summed up perfectly unfortunately.
Just hoping we are not on a mid term free fall. So much wrong about the club right now and where it is heading. Unbelievable transformation in 12 months and just to think after the Plymouth New Years Day game we would be where we are right now. I am trying to blot it all out right now as it’s depressing. The only small crumb of comfort is not travelling home and away watching sub standard performances from so many players that are simply not good enough for this level.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 10:18:25
Duke
As you have indicated the attitude seems messed up from the top down... Power has been an absentee owner/ chancer for far to long it seems
If the claims by others are in fact true he is not going to be the owner soon either. It would seem he has been running the club with  the needs of other peoples monies since2015
The big shame is.... The club currently does not seem to have the strength to survive this latest major crisis.
As asked previously has the Trust or Supporters club been in contact with the Aussie Builder or even Standing aka Barry to get their take on the current state of play and are they in a position to take on the club
COYMRs


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 10:20:23
It's a bit 99/00 again.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 10:26:29
It's quite simple the job has always been way too big for Power and with a combination of his ignorance, lack of funds/vision, poor managerial choices is taking us back to the low depths of the football league again. Can we survive another relegation in the current climate remains to be seen🤔🤔🤔🤔


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 10:44:33
I'm no pro power, but ask yourself this. During the tough 12 months,who has kept the club afloat. With no income from fans, the money has to come from somewhere.

We are lucky we have a club to support.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 10:52:11
I'm no pro power, but ask yourself this. During the tough 12 months,who has kept the club afloat. With no income from fans, the money has to come from somewhere.

We are lucky we have a club to support.
Exactly. Just where has the money come from? No way Power is funding it personally - if he hasn’t put his own money since he ‘owned’ it he isn’t going to now.

Don’t get sidetracked by Covid as it’s the same for every club. No doubt others are in a similar boat.

The problem with selling the club is how many skeletons are in Power’s cupboard.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 11:24:07
As asked previously has the Trust or Supporters club been in contact with the Aussie Builder or even Standing aka Barry to get their take on the current state of play and are they in a position to take on the club
And it's been answered many times, at least as far as the Trust being in contact with Clem. Yes they have and seem to have quite a positive relationship with him. Whether he's in a position to take on the club might be another matter.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 11:32:57
If you’re buying a club you wait until it’s available at its cheapest - which is always when a club is at its lowest ebb. Administration is the favoured time for a buyer.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 11:54:26
The last few games have shown us that  we aren't far off a bad team.
That statement works in both directions, unfortunately


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 11:55:42
I'm no pro power, but ask yourself this. During the tough 12 months,who has kept the club afloat. With no income from fans, the money has to come from somewhere.

We are lucky we have a club to support.

You're right over the past 9-12 months the club could have gone under so he's been doing something right to ensure that hasn't happened but looking back to 2013 when he first took over it's just been one rollercoaster ride after another excluding most of last season


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 12:29:30
Isn't a rollercoaster ride the norm for a club of Swindon's size, some good, some bad, some medicore.

It's all about degrees. Our downs are always spectacularly bad.

As for the ownership, its never been stable in my time again the bads have been spectacular, three admins and one demotion show that.



Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 12:31:42
Isn't a rollercoaster ride the norm for a club of Swindon's size, some good, some bad, some medicore.

It's all about degrees. Our downs are always spectacularly bad.

As for the ownership, its never been stable in my time again the bads have been spectacular, three admins and one demotion show that.



For a club our size we have more than most


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 12:31:56
I think you have to wait and see what the fallout is of the Standing/Barry case is, and what the financial state is after he leaves before drawing conclusions

the fact the lights are currently still on and we've not been in 'can't pay we'll take it away' is a major positive though


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 12:33:52
I think you have to wait and see what the fallout is of the Standing/Barry case is, and what the financial state is after he leaves before drawing conclusions

the fact the lights are currently still on and we've not been in 'can't pay we'll take it away' is a major positive though

That damn channel 4 programme won't go away and it's been on a few times since those bleak days😁


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 13:02:49
I think you have to wait and see what the fallout is of the Standing/Barry case is, and what the financial state is after he leaves before drawing conclusions

the fact the lights are currently still on and we've not been in 'can't pay we'll take it away' is a major positive though
That pretty much sums things up perfectly. Tbe trust cant move forward with either the CG purchase or any other investment until the court case clears up who owns STFC, there is an initial court hearing in mid Feb but unlikely we will get the full result/ Clarity until later in 2021. Once we do then new potential owners can  make their move / be put in place so it's a waiting game I am afraid. You can be assured though the Trust are working behind the scenes on various eventualities in order to support the club / new owners whichever way things go.


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 13:07:12
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Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and match
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 13:08:03
That pretty much sums things up perfectly. Tbe trust cant move forward with either the CG purchase or any other investment until the court case clears up who owns STFC, there is an initial court hearing in mid Feb but unlikely we will get the full result/ Clarity until later in 2021. Once we do then new potential owners can  make their move / be put in place so it's a waiting game I am afraid. You can be assured though the Trust are working behind the scenes on various eventualities in order to support the club / new owners whichever way things go.

Mean while we carry on sailing in the dark trying to dodge the icebergs


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 13:08:44
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtnCh5xB/own.jpg)

Fucking brilliant :clap:


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 15:25:40
That damn channel 4 programme won't go away and it's been on a few times since those bleak days😁
Not on Channel 4 it hasn't (it was Channel 5)


Title: Re: Swindon v Franchise pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 15:41:38
Not on Channel 4 it hasn't (it was Channel 5)

I stand corrected