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Title: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 07:08:53
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18623239.town-players-back-pre-season-first-game-next-weekend/

First game at the weekend.

For those who know the players better than I, who’s that at the back.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, August 3, 2020, 07:12:56
That looks like Diagouraga?!

Edit: The useless cunts at the adver using a photo from last season:

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17744639.richie-wellens-has-missed-out-on-signing-proven-goalscorers-nicky-maynard-and-danny-mayor-swindon-towns-striker-search-continues/


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 07:14:29
Adver stock photo! Bah!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Berniman on Monday, August 3, 2020, 08:56:43
Tbf, the adver are not going to be allowed anywhere near training due to Covid restrictions, plus they released the piece based on Wellens interviews last week, early morning - I doubt the training started pre 9am.

The adver can be ridiculed for coverage, but not this..


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:00:07
...that's if they have a Sports Desk again.

They recruited a replacement for Shaun Reynolds (along with Johnny Leighfield) and that person never started.

They are is a dire situation.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:14:22
That looks like Diagouraga?!

Edit: The useless cunts at the adver using a photo from last season:

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17744639.richie-wellens-has-missed-out-on-signing-proven-goalscorers-nicky-maynard-and-danny-mayor-swindon-towns-striker-search-continues/
Maybe we've resigned him!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:15:23
Just watching the news this morning and there’s a report of a circus opening in Portsmouth.

The seating restrictions are 2 seats either side and an empty row behind. Entering exiting use a one way system, no food sold.

So why couldn’t this be the blueprint for a return of fans to football?

And I presume a family group could sit together


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:25:38
I’d expect when fans are allowed back in it will end up looking something like that - I’m not sure that would equate to 50% capacity, but don’t have a good enough maths knowledge to work out what that would do to capacity


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: JBZ on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:32:17
From a club perspective, I assume there is a certain level of attendance that's required to cover the costs of having supporters in the ground. Would that model get enough people in, particularly given that you won't have the additional income pies and pasties etc?

From a supporter perspective, I suppose there will be many who won't be that fussed about returning given the possible risks and the fact that games will be available on the internet


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:32:41
Can’t be 50%. Just taking every other row out makes it 50%. Then 2 seats either side. I’d imagine a group of mates would get 1 person to buy, say, 5 tickets which would equate to 9 seats taken up.

God knows what they do with those clubs that still use terracing.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:34:47
From a club perspective, I assume there is a certain level of attendance that's required to cover the costs of having supporters in the ground. Would that model get enough people in, particularly given that you won't have the additional income pies and pasties etc?

From a supporter perspective, I suppose there will be many who won't be that fussed about returning given the possible risks and the fact that games will be available on the internet
If we could get somewhere between 4-5000 in the ground plus a decent take up on iFollow we’d be OK I reckon.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:36:37
Maybe they just ban people over the age of say 50 from going.

Then at least fans will get a rest from having to listen to people aimlessly shouting 'GEEEEEEERT AAAAAAAAAAT FAAAAAAAAAARWARD' every 30 seconds.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:42:07
Ageist!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:48:04
From a club perspective, I assume there is a certain level of attendance that's required to cover the costs of having supporters in the ground. Would that model get enough people in, particularly given that you won't have the additional income pies and pasties etc?

From a supporter perspective, I suppose there will be many who won't be that fussed about returning given the possible risks and the fact that games will be available on the internet

You'd imagine iFollow will be more open whereby all games will be watchable for a fee. Whether that is per game or in 'season ticket' format.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:50:39
Ageist!

The governemnt are considering locking down people over 50, depending certain conditions, so not that far fetched.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:53:29
I pay €130 for an iFollow ST. I’d imagine home based fans wouldn’t want to commit to an entire season if there’s a chance they can attend in person later in the season.

From what I understand the individual clubs receive 70% of iFollow sales. That’d only be £7 per game for the club but better than jack, I suppose.

Anyone any idea on the number of ST sales so far?


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 09:56:43
The governemnt are considering locking down people over 50, depending certain conditions, so not that far fetched.
How would they police that? They’ve already scared shitless a good number of ‘oldies’ from even leaving their house.

Maybe they want them all in care homes so they can fade away out of public view.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 3, 2020, 10:22:11
Quote from: Bob's Orange
Maybe they just ban people over the age of say 50 from going.

Then at least fans will get a rest from having to listen to people aimlessly shouting 'GEEEEEEERT AAAAAAAAAAT FAAAAAAAAAARWARD' every 30 seconds.

sound good to me 46 year and 3/4 old ears :)


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 3, 2020, 10:47:16
Can’t be 50%. Just taking every other row out makes it 50%. Then 2 seats either side. I’d imagine a group of mates would get 1 person to buy, say, 5 tickets which would equate to 9 seats taken up.
You're not allowing for family groups. I have a family season ticket with my two lads, so that's 3 that could sit together on just 3 seats, rather than 7 in your model.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 10:50:16
But there would have to be 2 seats empty at both ends of whatever ‘group’ sit together - whether it’s 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 3, 2020, 11:02:14
But there would have to be 2 seats empty at both ends of whatever ‘group’ sit together - whether it’s 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.
Yes, but it's still not the case that every person results in two seats either side left empty. We don't yet know what the likely seating arrangement will be but I think you're right some form of empty rows and an empty seat either side of each household group would probably make sense. We've seen estimates ranging from 25% of normal capacity to 40%, I guess in practice that will vary from ground to ground, depending on layout, family groups etc


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 11:06:49
It’s definitely in the club’s interest to have as big a ‘group’ as possible sitting together. Would they inquire much into the validity of such a group?

A group of 10 would only take up 14 seats, whereas a couple would take up 6.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Berniman on Monday, August 3, 2020, 11:29:13
This is how they are managing cinemas also (my company helped develop the booking system in the US).

Every other row populated - one way system - one seat spare either side of a single/double/family group booking - I am guessing 2 spare seats in a ground because the seats are narrower than a cinema.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 13:30:04
More like most football fans are more lard arsed


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 3, 2020, 14:36:59
How would it work though if you have to get up every 30 mins for the old boys 2 seats away to have a p!$$ and pass you, surely it is about people having to pass others in the narrow rows as well ?

Then there is ensuring not to many people are going in / out together, how would a 1 way system, work in the DR or TE  in the Arkells it may be easier as there are probably more exits.

Its going to be an awkward one you would imagine.



Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 3, 2020, 14:41:19
Again, that must be the same for a cinema and they’re open on that basis. Not forgetting football is outside, too.

There must be loads of places/occasions that people are in closer contact than at a football match.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 3, 2020, 14:47:34
Again, that must be the same for a cinema and they’re open on that basis. Not forgetting football is outside, too.

There must be loads of places/occasions that people are in closer contact than at a football match.
Exactly. The point is not that any reopening has to be absolutely 100% perfect, but it is about reducing instances of close contact and so reducing risk. You can always come up with a "Ah, but what if?"


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Berniman on Monday, August 3, 2020, 14:52:09
Yeah, if you are going to look it that closely and have a rule for every instance that could occur then the answer is there can be no crowds..

Simple answer is as with everything, they set the rules, if you are not comfortable with it, use common sense - don't go - sign up to Ifollow.  That is what I will be doing next season.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 3, 2020, 14:57:25
Even what might appear to be a small reduction in infection rates can make a significant impact on the overall number of infections.



Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, August 3, 2020, 15:12:14
Only a matter of time before there’s a full scale rebellion against social distancing IMO as there’s a rapidly decreasing number of people willing to put up with this indefinitely. With the threat of pubs being closed again to allow schools to reopen and rumours of above 50’s being told to shield (aka prisoners in their home) there will be a breaking point and people will will force a return to normality including things like attending football. I think in October we’ll have at least 50% capacity as the government are going to do everything they can to try and prevent mass unrest so there will be many compromises made. The balance needs to shift to people making their own decisions on whether they want to risk it.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 3, 2020, 15:13:46
r under 1 is the key, anything above still means exponential growth.

bit worried about swindon. Heard the next door neighbour in the phone say his son is a awaiting a test as the b&q team he works in had a positive.. assume he was talking to his boss


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: 4D on Monday, August 3, 2020, 15:19:40
Maybe they just ban people over the age of say 50 from going.

Then at least fans will get a rest from having to listen to people aimlessly shouting 'GEEEEEEERT AAAAAAAAAAT FAAAAAAAAAARWARD' every 30 seconds.

Oi  >:(


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 3, 2020, 19:52:29

Then at least fans will get a rest from having to listen to people aimlessly shouting 'GEEEEEEERT AAAAAAAAAAT FAAAAAAAAAARWARD' every 30 seconds.

Bloody hell BO, I just about spat out my haslet and dripping sandwich.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Hitchinred on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 06:09:11
r under 1 is the key, anything above still means exponential growth.

bit worried about swindon. Heard the next door neighbour in the phone say his son is a awaiting a test as the b&q team he works in had a positive.. assume he was talking to his boss

There was an expert on Radio 5 yesterday morning talking about infection rates and he said their methods had picked up the spikes in all the areas that have been identified which all happened to be in the north except one which was Swindon!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:30:52
Bloody hell BO, I just about spat out my haslet and dripping sandwich.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I used to work on the Deli in a small tesco in Dunbar up in Scotland and Haslet was always the cheapest sliced meat that we sold. Usually eaten by the older generation or the shoppers that would hover around the yellow sticker section to reflect the discounted products. I've not got a clue what it really is and suspect its quite highly processed but its quite tasty!!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Walthams on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:27:02
How would it work though if you have to get up every 30 mins for the old boys 2 seats away to have a p!$$ and pass you, surely it is about people having to pass others in the narrow rows as well ?

Then there is ensuring not to many people are going in / out together, how would a 1 way system, work in the DR or TE  in the Arkells it may be easier as there are probably more exits.

Its going to be an awkward one you would imagine.


Old Wembley had a solution, just roll up your program and piss through it, no need to move.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:29:53
Old Wembley had a solution, just roll up your program and piss through it, no need to move.

Or, even better...piss through someone elses programme!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:35:41
I used to work on the Deli in a small tesco in Dunbar up in Scotland and Haslet was always the cheapest sliced meat that we sold. Usually eaten by the older generation or the shoppers that would hover around the yellow sticker section to reflect the discounted products. I've not got a clue what it really is and suspect its quite highly processed but its quite tasty!!

Interesting.  Haslet is one of those traditional things which are disappearing.  If you are of the older generation then chances are eating offal based dishes was common as nowt could be wasted..... however it's been a while since that was the case. Things like tongue for sandwiches were common when I was a nipper.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:40:50
Interesting.  Haslet is one of those traditional things which are disappearing.  If you are of the older generation then chances are eating offal based dishes was common as nowt could be wasted..... however it's been a while since that was the case. Things like tongue for sandwiches were common when I was a nipper.

I am a big fan of offal and am not elderly.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:44:44
You won’t get to be elderly eating offal!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:54:21
Interesting.  Haslet is one of those traditional things which are disappearing.  If you are of the older generation then chances are eating offal based dishes was common as nowt could be wasted..... however it's been a while since that was the case. Things like tongue for sandwiches were common when I was a nipper.

Yes, tongue was the other cheaper meat now you come to mention it. We had 'lunch tongue' which was the cheaper version, or Ox Tongue, which was your more luxurious sliced meat. Not had it in years, but I did like it as well.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:55:59
I quite liked ox-tongue soup. 'Liked' as in past tense being the operative word.

I once bought some out here, and it had a whole fucking tongue in it. Hairs and all. Not been able to go close to the stuff ever since.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:56:48
What’s wrong with you people!


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:59:24
I quite liked ox-tongue soup. 'Liked' as in past tense being the operative word.

I once bought some out here, and it had a whole fucking tongue in it. Hairs and all. Not been able to go close to the stuff ever since.

That must have been a big tin.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Walthams on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:59:31
In the 70s I would drive to Norwich for the best dripping, thick slice of bread with thick jelly dripping covered in salt. Lovely.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 11:01:03
Classic TEF thread derailment by the way :)


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 11:01:24
And you’re alive to tell the tale?

There’s only one thing I like dripping.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:11:52
haven't heard Haslet as a thing for years. I mean I'm sure it's in supermarkets still, just totally disappeared off my radar


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:13:45
haven't heard Haslet as a thing for years. I mean I'm sure it's in supermarkets still, just totally disappeared off my radar

Sounds like your radar is pretty good. Well, at least its not offal.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:19:51
Kidneys are lovely


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:20:58
Kidneys are lovely

Agreed. A much maligned treat.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:56:56
Kidneys are lovely
As long as cooked so they are still pink in the middle, like liver...mmmmm.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Valid Pint on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 13:42:28
I am a big fan of offal and am not elderly.

Jerel?


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:45:22
Result of Wigan’s appeal due any time now. Rumours say it’s failed. In with us next season.


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:54:22
Wigan have lost their points penalty appeal. Relegated. (Alan Nixon)


Title: Re: Pre Season 20/21
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 18:30:05
Good stuff, another localish day out if fans allowed in.