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Title: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:33:53
[Transfers and general stuff]

Sooooo Hull might be joining us...

7-0 down not even HT versus Wigan.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:34:36
[Transfers and general stuff]

Sooooo Hull might be joining us...

6-0 down at Half-Time versus Wigan.
7-0 now.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:35:12
Seven now... maybe they'll 'do a Southampton' and be much better after this.

Or maybe they'll sack the manager and bring Phil Brown back short term.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:40:19
I want 10+

No excuses.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:42:53
I want 10+

No excuses.
When one relegation threatened side are 7-0 down at half time to another relegation threatened side then I am sorry but questions need to be asked about cheating.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:50:51
When one relegation threatened side are 7-0 down at half time to another relegation threatened side then I am sorry but questions need to be asked about cheating.

Hmmm I wonder if there are more dodgy bets being placed!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:52:07
Hmmm I wonder if there are more dodgy bets being placed!
You have to wonder.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 17:57:15
You have to wonder.

I've not checked on the game but unless Hull have had 3 sent off and the sub goalie is injured it does sound suspicious


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:03:23
I've not checked on the game but unless Hull have had 3 sent off and the sub goalie is injured it does sound suspicious
Every attack from Wigan seems to be via Nathan Byrne.

Hull are useless but they dont look 7 goals useless at the moment, the stream is pretty poor and keeps breaking up but it is all the pie eaters so far, several of the goals were pretty good goals TBH.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:07:45
Every attack from Wigan seems to be via Nathan Byrne.

Hull are useless but they dont look 7 goals useless at the moment, the stream is pretty poor and keeps breaking up but it is all the pie eaters so far, several of the goals were pretty good goals TBH.

That Nathan Byrne likes being involved in high scoring games! Let's hope they get into double figures


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:13:14
That Nathan Byrne likes being involved in high scoring games! Let's hope they get into double figures
Hull are not giving away half as many chances this half TBH, as it stands I cant see it being added to. Byrne, Naismith and Massey all look pretty decent for Wigan.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:13:46
And with that 8-0


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:42:09
8-0 - 8 bloody nil.

If Hull had scored then this would have been apt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9KXrRUZqtw&feature=emb_logo

I think a stewards enquiry is needed.

Wigan now on the same points as Hull even if they are deducted 12 points!

This smells fishier than a night out in Grimsby.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:43:00
Middlesborough as good as safe now too after a win at Reading.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 18:56:16
Middlesborough as good as safe now too after a win at Reading.

Warnock certainly knows how to get the maximum effort out of his teams


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 21:26:30
That has to be the biggest match fixed first half since the Serie A (Alberto Comazzi was involved in that) scandal. I'm sorry, Hull are shit but Wigan haven't been that good in games.

It probably won't happen but in true Kevin Keegan style, I would love it, absolutely love it if Luton or even Barnsley dicked the two of them and stayed up instead of them.

Absolute bunch of cunts (and no, not in an endearing way). The Man City news was corrupt enough. This just takes the Bourbon.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 21:50:54
Before tonight Wigan had taken 13 points from 18 since the restart, Hull just 4.

It’s not exactly a stretch to see a form team humiliating one which is plummeting (having sold anyone decent they had in January) toward league 1


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 03:00:28
Before tonight Wigan had taken 13 points from 18 since the restart, Hull just 4.

It’s not exactly a stretch to see a form team humiliating one which is plummeting (having sold anyone decent they had in January) toward league 1

Still a bullshit scoreline. Hull have been shit but not that shit. Likewise, Wigan have been good of late but not that and with current circumstances, more fishy than a microwaved Kipper.

As I say, couldn't give a fuck about either, I hope both teams go down and Luton pip them.

Charlton play today and if they beat Brum, they will only need a point to pretty much guarantee safety from their next match (Sat)...which happens to be...Wigan. Now if Charlton play out for a draw v Wigan then at 3pm that day is Luton v Hull. Either of them winning (I think Luton will win) will mean Wigan have to win their last game of the season to stay up. The pressure is on Wigan who have to keep getting results, even drawing is bad for them atm. What will make it more interesting is if Charlton either draw or lose v Brum. Because then in the fixture v Wigan they'll both need the 3pts even more so. Those types of games usually end up being a draw.

Going into the last game because I'm certain 2 or 3 will be battling the drop...

Hull away v Cardiff. Cardiff look like they still face a race to the end with Swansea for 6th spot so I see them going all out. Hull will likely need a win. A draw won be enough. Certainly not if they lose to Luton.

Charlton away v Leeds. Leeds can secure auto v Barnsley at home Thurs night and pretty much the title (any points dropped by Baggies hands it to Leeds. Brentford can play apart but I'm sure they would be happy sneaking 2nd). So it is likely that Leeds might relax. Certainly a chance for Charlton to grab all three in a 'shock' victory.

Wigan home v Fulham. A little result dependant concerning Fulham who may still have a slim hope (we'll know after Baggies v Udders result) of auto but it seems a favourable 'nothing' fixture for Wigan to get all three.

Luton home v Blackburn. Blackburn are pretty much on holiday mode, no PO hopes or Relegation worries. Players will be self absorbed in getting their agents to work on better/new deals while they organise holidays with the family. Focus will be like the fitness of a pre-preseason David Dunn. Luton off the back of beating the doomed Hull will seize this as an opportunity to escape via taking the points off a lethargic Blackburn.

If all of that plays out to roughly similar value, we'll end up with Barnsley bottom, then Hull. Interestingly Wigan would just survive on 49pts, Charlton just above them on around 50pts and Luton on 51pts. With Baggies likely to beat Hudders on Friday, they face Millwall away last game. Who incidentally are challenging for that last PO spot too (they play middling QPR in the penultimate tie). Hudders are very much in danger of joining Barnsley and Hull. They'd end up on their current total of 48pts, even 49pts (drawing with either Wall or Brom) would see them relegated by a significantly poor GD to Wigan.

I'm certainly keeping my peepers on Hudders. Still a fuck ton to play for in relegation and PO/Auto stakes, with seemingly all those teams playing crucial 6 pointers versus one another. Nice to be a neutral, I would not want to be a fan of those 5 bottom feeders and would probably have zero nails left if I was a Swans, Wall, Cardiff, Bees or Baggies fan either.

It's a fucking Nun's Chuff is that!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 09:44:04
Before tonight Wigan had taken 13 points from 18 since the restart, Hull just 4.

It’s not exactly a stretch to see a form team humiliating one which is plummeting (having sold anyone decent they had in January) toward league 1
Factor in the off field issues, Hull not giving the couple of month extended contracts to key players including the likes of their captain Lichaj and vice captain Jackson Irvine this kind of result has coming. Nothing to do with match fixing just a severely demoralized dressing room, devoid of quality and leadership and a pretty poor manager to boot who is only there as a yes man to their board.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 09:58:40
Factor in the off field issues, Hull not giving the couple of month extended contracts to key players including the likes of their captain Lichaj and vice captain Jackson Irvine this kind of result has coming. Nothing to do with match fixing just a severely demoralized dressing room, devoid of quality and leadership and a pretty poor manager to boot who is only there as a yes man to their board.
I watched about half of the game online and Hull were not bothered chasing anything in the first half, almost every attack that got near their goal went in. Hull were lower quality that any side I saw this season in league 2.

That could be as you say because of contracts etc but since the restart of matches they haven't looked anywhere near that bad, they conceded 4 at WBA but they are flying. Wigan certainly arent flying despite being on a decent run, and are probably in a worse situation concerning new contracts etc than the Hull players are.

There is barely a challenge put in by any defender for any of the goals and the keeper doesn't even bother going for most of them.

A couple of the goals were good goals but in the main they were worse than poorly defended, Wigan hit the post twice as well.

It could have been "just one of those games" when everything they hit goes in but its just with the circumstances surrounding 2 teams fighting relegation and with betting rumours rife concerning Wigans demise, just makes me question things. Weirder things have happened is all I am saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkQG3rNnhU&feature=onebox


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:09:36
Factor in the off field issues, Hull not giving the couple of month extended contracts to key players including the likes of their captain Lichaj and vice captain Jackson Irvine this kind of result has coming. Nothing to do with match fixing just a severely demoralized dressing room, devoid of quality and leadership and a pretty poor manager to boot who is only there as a yes man to their board.
With you on that. Even with that background it's an abysmal performance but you only have to skim through Adam Crafton's excellent piece in the Athletic to see how Hull have been undermined from within for some time now


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:15:05
With you on that. Even with that background it's an abysmal performance but you only have to skim through Adam Crafton's excellent piece in the Athletic to see how Hull have been undermined from within for some time now
I know Hull fans hate their owner, not sure if its crept into the team too with that level of playing incompetence.

The Hull owner Assem Allam said "they can die as soon as they want" when talking about Hull fans, that is not not right on any level. They are certainly a club that is fucked up big style.

With an owner like that and players who doesn't seem to care they could do a Bolton and drop to the bottom league if some steadying influence isn't put in place to manage them, as 'Boro have done with Warnock.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:15:25
I watched about half of the game online and Hull were not bothered chasing anything in the first half, almost every attack that got near their goal went in. Hull were lower quality that any side I saw this season in league 2.

That could be as you say because of contracts etc but since the restart of matches they haven't looked anywhere near that bad, they conceded 4 at WBA but they are flying. Wigan certainly arent flying despite being on a decent run, and are probably in a worse situation concerning new contracts etc than the Hull players are.

There is barely a challenge put in by any defender for any of the goals and the keeper doesn't even bother going for most of them.

A couple of the goals were good goals but in the main they were worse than poorly defended, Wigan hit the post twice as well.

It could have been "just one of those games" when everything they hit goes in but its just with the circumstances surrounding 2 teams fighting relegation and with betting rumours rife concerning Wigans demise, just makes me question things. Weirder things have happened is all I am saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkQG3rNnhU&feature=onebox
In their last 10 games they've conceded at least 4 in half of them, if they concede a couple they capitulate as they have no leadership, a lot of players probably want out and subconsciously are thinking about finding a new club. This is just the result of a perfect storm of incompetence.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:20:31
This did make me laugh.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W4Jx73f8/Untitled.png)

Grant McCann says today that even if it finished 10-0 he still won't resign.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:23:59
This did make me laugh.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W4Jx73f8/Untitled.png)

Grant McCann says today that even if it finished 10-0 he still won't resign.
He's just a yes man to their owners, gets paid and has no accountability for on field performances, sold his soul to the devil and got a cushy little gig so of course he won't resign.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:25:37
They need to get in Carol Baskin, shes known to be pretty good working with unruly tigers and disposal of unwanted people.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:28:01
I watched about half of the game online and Hull were not bothered chasing anything in the first half, almost every attack that got near their goal went in. Hull were lower quality that any side I saw this season in league 2.

That could be as you say because of contracts etc but since the restart of matches they haven't looked anywhere near that bad, they conceded 4 at WBA but they are flying. Wigan certainly arent flying despite being on a decent run, and are probably in a worse situation concerning new contracts etc than the Hull players are.

There is barely a challenge put in by any defender for any of the goals and the keeper doesn't even bother going for most of them.

A couple of the goals were good goals but in the main they were worse than poorly defended, Wigan hit the post twice as well.

It could have been "just one of those games" when everything they hit goes in but its just with the circumstances surrounding 2 teams fighting relegation and with betting rumours rife concerning Wigans demise, just makes me question things. Weirder things have happened is all I am saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkQG3rNnhU&feature=onebox

Amazingly, goal music sounds even worse in an empty stadium.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:31:30
Amazingly, goal music sounds even worse in an empty stadium.
Is that possible? :D I hate goal music TBH, at any club, ever.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:43:38
Amazingly, goal music sounds even worse in an empty stadium.

Not sure why they are bothering with it, likewise when you watch games they seem to be playing music pre-match and at half time etc?


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:45:36
Not sure why they are bothering with it, likewise when you watch games they seem to be playing music pre-match and at half time etc?
Next they will announce substitutions and crowd changes on the tannoy :D


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:46:13
Next they will announce substitutions and crowd changes on the tannoy :D

I am pretty sure they did in one of the PL games I watched.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:48:02
I am pretty sure they did in one of the PL games I watched.
What, announce crowd changes? :D


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:18:15
Is that possible? :D I hate goal music TBH, at any club, ever.

Indeed fella, and yet, here we are!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:34:20
What, announce crowd changes? :D

"And just coming back from a piss, and getting a hotdog...Mr NoWashyHands."


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 16:44:07
There goes Jutty to the front of the queue at the burger wagon.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Thursday, July 16, 2020, 06:12:18
I'll look forward to visiting Kingston. Not been to a game there since the 80s. I wonder if it's status as a European city of culture has any legacy. Didn't they use it on BBC TV weather maps as a key location that year in recognition?


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: jutty274 on Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:36:12
There goes Jutty to the front of the queue at the burger wagon.
You know that nobody gets there before me, no matter how many times you try and kick my legs out from under me


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Friday, July 17, 2020, 05:47:47
Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere, but the play-offs for promotion TO the EFL begin today with their six-team format.

I'll go for a Barnet v Halifax final.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 17, 2020, 08:43:54
Yeovil to win.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: JBZ on Friday, July 17, 2020, 09:03:02
Yeovil to win.

Agreed


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, July 17, 2020, 09:35:15
How long has it been since they played? 4 months?  Absolute lottery

Would like to see Garrard bring up Boreham Wood, such a small team


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, July 17, 2020, 10:01:39
You know that nobody gets there before me, no matter how many times you try and kick my legs out from under me

Nobody can see your legs now Jutty!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, July 18, 2020, 15:32:26
Luton goal effectively drops Wigan in to the Championship relegation places with one game to go.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 18, 2020, 15:42:18
bye bye Hull.

or should that be hello?


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Saturday, July 18, 2020, 18:37:25
If Wigan win their final game and Charlton & Luton draw their games, Wigan would stay up because if their points deduction was applied this season, Wigan would stay up on goal difference.

If you are effectively removing four wins from a team's point total, their goal difference should also be penalised.

If twelve draws are being removed, then forget everything I have said (unless of course a team that would have been deducted points stayed up because of more goals scored in a tied points and goal difference situation).


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Cheltred on Saturday, July 18, 2020, 19:34:04
If Wigan win their final game and Charlton & Luton draw their games, Wigan would stay up because if their points deduction was applied season, Wigan would stay up on goal difference.

If you are effectively removing four wins from a team's point total, their goal difference should also be penalised.

If twelve draws are being removed, then forget everything I have said (unless of course a team that would have been deducted points stayed up because of more goals scored in a tied points and goal difference situation).
That is a good point which no one that matters seems to have ever  considered yet


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 03:19:00
If Wigan win their final game and Charlton & Luton draw their games, Wigan would stay up because if their points deduction was applied this season, Wigan would stay up on goal difference.

If being the operative word in the first instance. Second instance it moot. They will get points deducted this season (they can appeal after) regardless. All that matters is whether or not they do enough to create a big enough points or equal points and better GD, gap. Yet there are a number of variables that seem to weigh against Wigan as well as needing their own win. Just to piss you off, I've stated and applied some valid reasoning below :soapy tit wank:

Wigan face Fulham who are playing for an auto spot. Both are desperate for 3pts. Wigan have to win their match regardless of any scenario, as do Fulham but I see neither overcoming the other (unless Mitrovic is on it like today) but there could be several goals.
Prediction: A dramatic Score Draw

Charlton play away at Leeds. Sure Leeds fans would love them to win at home but they are already Champions and have nothing to play for now, especially if Leeds beat Derby at Derby; which I'm sure their fans would take much more joy from. It'll likely just be a virtual dick waving show (via iFollow or LeedsNET) for said fans, of which many will still be on the piss, including some of the players. Charlton will be playing to win (you'd imagine). They might be playing Leeds at the best possible time really, seeing as the Leeds boys will be a little more relaxed. If that wasn't enough, to swing slightly in Charton's favour...I'll remind you who is the Charlton manager? Only ex-Leeds of 7 years and twice player of the year, yep that racist lad from Camden Town, Lee Bowyer.

Despite Charlton's efforts, I see a rather petered out affair in which Leeds allow Charlton to attack them yet they struggle to take the opportunity. As noted this really will be a Bonne chance but going by the predicted result at Wigan Pier, the result here may not matter and I doubt Leeds fans will be bothered about the importance.
Prediction: A beer soaked Draw (poss score draw).

Luton play Blackburn who have shit all to play for (perhaps they forgot that when busting a gut v Berkshire Royals today). Going on current form, Luton do have some of the best in the division (8pts from 4) is only matched by Wigan and understandably only bettered by 3 of the top 4. Better form than potential late bottlers, West Brom. They chucked the kitchen sink at "can't buy a win" Hull today and could've won by 9 (this is a dig at the Wigan result) but they prevailed and got a deserved win, which as we all know must've been an incredibly tense 6pt-er. I would back them to do it again and get a win here too.
Prediction: Luton Win

NB: Barnsley could shock them all, with a slim outside chance. It is very slim though and relies on at first, a victory versus Forest. The wood-dwellers likely want to get at least a point to secure their PO spot before any last day drama (leave that to the two Welsh Clubs). Forest should get the win but they've stuttered the last few games and so a draw is not out the question. Seemingly a Forest fan would be feeling nervous about the POs. Their only hope is for West Brom to drop out of the autos, who also have terrible form for a top 6 side. Prediction: Draw (which won't be enough) and go on to lose their last match v Brentford who, like Fulham will be playing for an auto spot.

Taking Barnsley's slim hopes out of the equation and removing any in-game jiggery-pokery, favours for former players or large betting scandals involving Chairmen, I would say Luton have the best opportunity to beat the drop. Charlton have less work to do but they have been poor so I feel they will be sweating more on the Wigan result, rather than getting the job done. Risky business. Having said that, Wigan have the toughest task in winning terms. Yes they have equal (8pts from 4) form as Luton but face Fulham who have a 2.5ppg (10pts from 4) and they do have to win their match, whereas (as risky as it is) the others don't have to win from the outset.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 03:26:16
That is a good point which no one that matters seems to have ever  considered yet

The reason, I would imagine is to avoid further claims from other teams because the points deduction (and most usually aren't) doesn't relate to any results on the pitch. Rather the conduct of the club off it is where it relates to. This is why things like GD are not considered in the deduction. For starters, how would you even begin to choose which match(es) you are going to be deducting goals from? And if so, then other teams could claim those as potential victories/draws.

In other words, they'd be opening up an even bigger can of worms than might already be opened anyway.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 08:30:40
it's an interesting point, but games aren't being removed from the record.

it's straight points. that's it


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 09:42:38
That is a good point which no one that matters seems to have ever  considered yet

It’s not

...because if you are removing certain results (rather than just the points) then couldn’t the teams on the other end of the result claim they should have the points by default?


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 10:36:09
Wasn't a 3-0 defeat once the default to a team who e.g. didn't turn up?

What was the Scotland game where they kicked off against no opponents, and the game was abandoned? It was going to default to a mock win, but I think they eventually played the game on another occasion though.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Cheltred on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 16:58:17
Wasn't a 3-0 defeat once the default to a team who e.g. didn't turn up?

What was the Scotland game where they kicked off against no opponents, and the game was abandoned? It was going to default to a mock win, but I think they eventually played the game on another occasion though.
Estonia I think, but yes it was eventually replayed


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Sunday, July 19, 2020, 17:43:33
Estonia I think, but yes it was eventually replayed

Thank you, yes it was a World Cup qualifier in 1996

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_team_in_Tallinn (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_team_in_Tallinn)group

Quote "Scotland initially believed that they would be awarded the match by a default score of 3–0, which appeared to be confirmed by the FIFA match delegate.".


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:29:41
Bristol Rovers have done moderately good business over the last week (Jack Baldwin, Josh Grant, Max Ehmer and Sam Nicholson).


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:33:51
Bristol Rovers have done moderately good business over the last week (Jack Baldwin, Josh Grant, Max Ehmer and Sam Nicholson).
They have signed a few that on paper seem pretty decent.

Not that many L1 clubs making signings at the moment though, especially us, much to the chagrin of many Town fans on FB/Twitter.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:38:17
They have signed a few that on paper seem pretty decent.

Not that many L1 clubs making signings at the moment though, especially us, much to the chagrin of many Town fans on FB/Twitter.

Apart from Blackpool ;)


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:47:51
Apart from Blackpool ;)
We don't talk about them! :D our new fiercest rivals!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 11:56:36
We don't talk about them! :D our new fiercest rivals!

shhhh - that Tangerine whelk will be on shortly to tell us how 'bitter' we are.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 11:59:52
We don't talk about them! :D our new fiercest rivals!

Its all a bit like us and Oxford really, got a couple of mates who support Preston and they couldn't give a toss about Blackpool, but Blackpool fans are obsessed with them!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:06:22
I'm off to the pub tonight to watch the finale (on the pitch anyway) of the Championship.

I want Charlton down for a good away trip next season, together with Hull who I tipped a while ago.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:06:59
we do hate Oxford though. or some of us do.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:13:02
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Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:14:26
we do hate Oxford though. or some of us do.

I suppose it depends who you engage with, obviously I don't get the rivalry on a regular basis being so far away and likewise although I was born in Oxford and bought up near Witney I didn't really know many Oxford fans when I was a kid (bit embarrassing for them really as it was their most successful period), however I do now have a couple of their fans in my wider Facebook community who I have got to engage with as I have got older through other people, and they are bloody obsessed with us, likewise bizarrely a fair few of the people I went to school with who had no interest in football then seem to be obsessed with them (apart from the ones who now support Man Utd and Chelsea!).


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:30:52
I didnt realise they actually asked if they could take fans to Wembley for the playoff final. As if the rules were going to be changed!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BoA Vagabond on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:47:12
Strange bunch. Worked there for two years twenty plus years ago. I was really surprised at the level of animosity. Nothing like that from a Swindon perspective in my experience. Yes they are a rival and I love a good derby atmosphere but then I largely forget them.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:59:35
Went on their forum to see the meltdown after Wycombe and was shocked by the number of posts mentioning Swindon. Possibly a reason they've done better than us in recent derbies though if that's being fed through to the players.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 12:59:40
Strange bunch. Worked there for two years twenty plus years ago. I was really surprised at the level of animosity. Nothing like that from a Swindon perspective in my experience. Yes they are a rival and I love a good derby atmosphere but then I largely forget them.

I think there is a lot in common between Oxford and Blackpool which could explain their similar traits, in both cases they are places where those born and bred are rather outnumbered (or at least out perceived by the wider country) by a wider population that a) sets the tone for the way others see the place and b) thus means the locals might have a bit of a chip on their shoulder.

In Oxfords case its the university, when I moved up north people seemed genuinely shocked to learn that a) I was not posh and didn't speak with a posh accent (unfortunately with my parents I have a horrendous mix of Wilts and Glous, with a now added bit of Geordie on top when pissed!) and that b) beyond the academic side of things Oxford was just a provincial town and to be honest a bit of a shit hole!

Blackpool now has a reputation for being a shit hole full of stags, hens, incomers and homeless, which grates (understandably) with the locals. I lived for c.20 years about 20 miles away from there and went for non footballing reasons once, which was once more than most of the people I knew.  


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Valid Pint on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 20:35:43
Wow, what a finish!

So much for Luton's false dawn or whatever

No-one knows more about football than me.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Cookie on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 20:36:24
Fantastic last day in the Championship, it really is more entertaining than the Prem.

Barnsley with an amazing escape which is good and Charlton down which is bloody excellent assuming fans are back for the away game. Hull is good I reckon, over 15 years since we played and of course good memories up there as first game when we won the league in 96.  Gotta feel sorry for Wigan though.  


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 20:57:38
...there are a number of variables that seem to weigh against Wigan as well as needing their own win.

Wigan face Fulham who are playing for an auto spot. 
Prediction: A dramatic Score Draw

Charlton play away at Leeds. Sure Leeds fans would love them to win at home....

Despite Charlton's efforts...going by the predicted result at Wigan Pier, the result here may not matter and I doubt Leeds fans will be bothered about the importance.
Prediction: A beer soaked Draw (poss score draw).

Luton play Blackburn who have shit all to play for (perhaps they forgot that when busting a gut v Berkshire Royals today). Going on current form, Luton do have some of the best in the division....I would back them to do it again and get a win here too.
Prediction: Luton Win

NB: Barnsley could shock them all, with a slim outside chance. It is very slim though and relies on at first, a victory versus Forest.
Prediction: Draw (which won't be enough) and go on to lose their last match v Brentford.

...Luton have the best opportunity to beat the drop.
Charlton have less work to do but they have been poor so I feel they will be sweating more on the Wigan result, rather than getting the job done.
Wigan have the toughest task in winning terms...they do have to win their match, whereas (as risky as it is) the others don't have to win from the outset.


I think that wasn't a bad call. Luton definitely took their opportunity. Charlton didn't draw but as I mentioned they definitely relied on other results which ultimately was risky and not enough. Wigan had to win, they didn't and likewise the score draw was called. Barnsley indeed did shock pretty much all of them by winning their last two games to leapfrog two on the last day. What a feeling for them but Luton most impressive, their form showed that they should do it.

Side note for Forest (who lost to Stoke 1-4). Have to say that is the bottling of a decade but their form had been patchy. Big credit to Swansea doing more than enough who in reverse have had pretty decent form. Brentford similarly bottled a great chance (no discredit to Barnsley) in their last two games so will be gutted. You would have to back Fulham or Swansea in the POs. I give Fulham the edge to get promoted out of the four but the Swans will be incredibly buoyant indeed.

Pending inquiry (this will be fun), we are joined in L1 by Hull (no appeal), Wigan (very likely to appeal), and Charlton (like Hull they don't have much to appeal for). Depending on   the Wigan outcome we would be joined by Barnsley instead of Wigan. This may trigger appeals by Barnsley, who of course have played their season to the letter.

My own opinion and understanding is that the rules state if you go into administration during a season, then you are deducted 12pts so Wigan should be relegated. Tough tits. They simply haven't done enough. It's shit for the fans but they should take issue up with the people who run their club and speak with their feet (the irony in the current climate). Other teams have had 12pts deducted for the same reasons so no special treatment thanks.

Them's the breaks.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 21:40:09
So are we cheering on Swansea in the hope of getting the BFG back?


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 21:56:50
They are siging Woodman anyway i thought


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 06:23:10
my line manager is a Forest fan :)


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 06:29:50
So are we cheering on Swansea in the hope of getting the BFG back?
I would have thought that we would stand a decent chance of getting Benda back even if they're in The Championship next season.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 07:39:56
Tricky to say what Wigan/Charlton/Hull will be like next season. All in varying levels of turmoil all of which can end with a change of ownership.

Good to avoid Luton (and possibly Barnsley) though.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 07:53:00
Yeah thats 3 clubs in serious financial problems at the moment, I would think its unlikely that they will be able to afford to mount a serious promotion challenge next season with the impending financial restrictions and with 2 currently in transfer embargos already and Hull could well be about to enter one as well.

I think all 3 will be mid table at best next season as almost their entire squads will have to be disbanded.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 08:54:39
Bit of a long thread, but some of the doomsayers should have a read of this if they really want to know what an incompetent owner is

https://www.not606.com/threads/the-athletic-article.384370/


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 08:56:39
Definately 3 clubs in serious financial problems coming down.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:00:47
Wigan, Hull and Charlton all seem to be fucked for the foreseeable future. Those relegated clubs usually vie for promotion back to the Championship.

I reckon next season is there for the taking if you get it right.

Need a few ‘BBC Wilts Sound understands . . .’


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:08:42
Interesting to see 8 ex Premier League teams in L1 next season.

Wigan, Charlton, Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Hull, Blackpool, Wimbledon(MKD) and us.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:22:45
I can’t remember the exact figure but I was staggered to see that out of the current 92, more teams have been in the PL than haven’t been.  Think the number of teams is in the mid 50’s range


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:26:07
I can’t remember the exact figure but I was staggered to see that out of the current 92, more teams have been in the PL than haven’t been.  Think the number of teams is in the mid 50’s range
49.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_clubs

Bear in mind that 20 of those are currently still in the Premier league.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:27:58
You didn’t forget to add Ox....

Oh, silly me!


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:43:29
Interesting to see 8 ex Premier League teams in L1 next season.

Wigan, Charlton, Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Hull, Blackpool, Wimbledon(MKD) and us.
Franchise aren't Wimbledon, never were, never will be. However the figure's still correct as AFC Wimbledon will be there


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:45:27
Franchise aren't Wimbledon, never were, never will be. However the figure's still correct as AFC Wimbledon will be there

Awaits the Tanswell family...


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:46:05
Charlton can't offer anyone a new contract over the age of 21. They're fucked. Bowyer will go, and they've got 6 weeks and embargo to sort their shit out.

Wigan will sell everyone good and again, have 6 weeks.

Can't see either of those two sides competing.

Hull will compete though - they're fine financially, even if the owner is a basket case. They also bascially have a bought a good L1 team in the last 12 months.


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 09:47:10
Awaits the Tanswell family...
You lay out the bait and just wait for a nibble .... :)


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 10:14:46
Awaits the Tanswell family...

Morning Rich :D


Title: Re: EFL League One 2020-21
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, July 23, 2020, 12:00:29
Definately 3 clubs in serious financial problems coming down.
....... and Bolton and Southend going down !!.