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Title: CBD Oil
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, May 10, 2020, 20:47:59
Has anyone ever used it? How was it for you if so?

I’ve been looking into getting some to see if it helps with my sleep and anxiety but don’t know where to start.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Sunday, May 10, 2020, 21:03:13
I've been using it for the best part of a year now, it helps with chronic pain I have from work. Two of my mates take it to help with sleep, whereas my mum tried it and it didn't seem to help her. Also have a mate who tried a cbd vape for anxiety but didn't find did much, although there's lots of anecdotal evidence to suggest it works for a lot of people. Definitely worth a try.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 10, 2020, 21:48:17
Me Ma has it in tablet form for her Fibro but she thinks a cortisone in the behind is much more effective. I'd be inclined to agree. She had one injection about 3years ago which she said lasted for nearly two years.

As for anxiety, I'd say it might help but likely be similar to one of the side effects of Sertraline; not wanting to do anything (often listed as drowsiness or fatigue on the packet).


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: mystical_goat on Sunday, May 10, 2020, 23:23:44
I've used CBD oral droppers, and have a little disposable pen vape thing that I'm giving a go now. I would recommend trying it for combatting anxiety especially. I'm not sure the pen does much but the dropper had a noticeable effect.

Be wary of any product whose origins are not clear, as there are a lot of low quality and fakes. The market is becoming slowly more legitimate and regulated. If they are not explicit about the origins of their hemp, don't get it. If it's made in China, avoid it. USA/Netherlands hemp is a good bet.

A good website I found for reviews of CBD products is https://dailycbd.com/en/

They are very thorough in their analysis of the products. It's all American but just use it to check the quality of what you can find in the UK online stores.

The shop I used for the disposable pen is this one, they sell all sorts

https://flawlesscbd.co.uk/

I should also add, overall the effects are mild. Nothing at all like the old devil's lettuce, and I would be very surprised if it gave someone a feeling of 'not wanting to do anything'.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 10, 2020, 23:54:31
Well that will be totally down to the THC content (if any, a lot of CBD products have little to no THC) in certain products and then also how individual people respond to it. So for both you or I to suggest effects as certain is inaccurate, whichever way that suggestion leans.

In any case, I was comparing it with similar effects of Sertraline; a prescribed SSRI for specifically treating depression, anxiety and panic attacks - like Citalopram and not a generous nugget of Lemon Drop or Purple Haze  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, May 11, 2020, 00:36:26
The lab reports that come with each legitimate product are readily available to view. As you say, CBD products contain trace amounts of THC, normally around 1 tenth of 1 percent at most, which therefore wouldn't cause lethargy or any other discernable effects. So I don't really know what you're getting at.

And I don't see the relevance of comparing it to a prescription anti-depressant.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 04:58:20
Goater is right, make sure you get something that has lab reports. There's loads of shit about but regulations are coming in at the turn of the year that will get rid of a lot of that. As he said THC levels are miniscule in products that are properly tested, or if you want one with none in you can get a cbd isolate product. Full spectrum products which contain thc and other cannabinoids will likely struggle to comply with the new regulations when they come into force.

The products I've always used since I bought sone once from boots that was rubbish, is this www.zoetic.com The gummies are particularly nice.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 11, 2020, 05:21:28
My sleep patterns are crap and I get aches and pains that wake me up, this stuff any good?


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 05:31:23
My sleep patterns are crap and I get aches and pains that wake me up, this stuff any good?

It hasn't been tested enough yet to provide conclusive proof, but the amount of people who say it's helped them is pretty overwhelming.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 07:13:48
I've ordered some vape liquid from Harmony CBD. It did work to combat stress and relaxation as well as cutting down on alcohol consumption, but couldn't justify the price; camomile tea seems to have a similar effect for me and is a lot cheaper.

That being said, they seem to be a good company, products made from European hemp and lab tests published on their site. https://www.meetharmony.com


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Valid Pint on Monday, May 11, 2020, 07:59:37
Has anyone ever used it? How was it for you if so?

I’ve been looking into getting some to see if it helps with my sleep and anxiety but don’t know where to start.
You might as well use snake oil


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 08:48:05
I have chronic back pain and also large amounts of pain from my cancer treatements, the wife is awaiting 2 replacement hips and both knees so is in chronic pain too constantly.

We heard lots of good things about CBD oil, so 6 months ago we gave it a go, many friends saying it helps with stress and pain relief etc so we hunted the net and found the highest concentration of legal CBD oil in the UK.

We found a 20% solution for £60 a bottle, you buy it and it comes in a bottle with a dropper and you put a couple of drops under the tongue and let them disipate with your mouth shut for about a minute.

1st off the stuff tastes fucking foul, its one of THE worth things I have ever tasted, and my ex wife was a shocking cook so I have experience! its like dirty pond water mixed with old wet dog.

This dose is taken 2/3/4 times a day so 1 bottle will last 1 person about a month at most for £60+.

We used it religiously for 3 months as they say its takes a while to build up in the blood until it becomes useful.

It did absolutely fuck all for myself and my wife other than leave an awful taste in the mouth, it was less than useless in every aspect, as I have said I have constant pain and also anxiety/PTSD and it did nothing for those symptoms either.

I think TBH as some people say that if you think it will do you good then maybe it will but any results will be totally psychosomatic or at best a coincidence.

Save your money.

And if anyone has any strong forms of pain relief please let myself and my wife know as we are both have active immunity for morphine and all its derivatives so rely on large doses of paracetamol alone.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 11, 2020, 08:54:20
You might as well use snake oil
There’s a nice market in Wuhan where you can buy that.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 11, 2020, 09:06:58

And if anyone has any strong forms of pain relief please let myself and my wife know as we are both have active immunity for morphine and all its derivatives so rely on large doses of paracetamol alone.

I was taking various painkillers when I broke my arm and dislocated my shoulder, can't remember which one it was now but one of them made me feel really blue.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 09:18:12
I was taking various painkillers when I broke my arm and dislocated my shoulder, can't remember which one it was now but one of them made me feel really blue.
Chances are they were morphine derived as are pretty much every painkiller available, certainly the stronger ones. Co Codamol, Vicodin,  Pethidine, OxyContin, Dyhydracodiene, Tramadol, Fentanyl,  Buprenorphine have tried them all but without any relief from pain so I am just on Paracetamol now staying off the opioids as they are pointless.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 11, 2020, 09:22:33
Mrs Audrey was a Pharmacy Technician. She says talk to a pharmacist. If they can recommend something that needs a script go to your GP.

She can’t think of any non opioid painkillers


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 09:27:13
Mrs Audrey was a Pharmacy Technician. She says talk to a pharmacist. If they can recommend something that needs a script go to your GP.

She can’t think of any non opioid painkillers
No thats right,  the only ones are basically paracetamol and Ibuprofen and I can't take Ibuprofen as it upsets the acidic balance of the stomach and makes my oesophagus cancer symptoms worse.

TBH I just live with it now and its only a couple of times a day that its properly painful so you just get on with it and do your best to ignore tha pain until it subsides.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:14:53
I have chronic back pain and also large amounts of pain from my cancer treatements, the wife is awaiting 2 replacement hips and both knees so is in chronic pain too constantly.

We heard lots of good things about CBD oil, so 6 months ago we gave it a go, many friends saying it helps with stress and pain relief etc so we hunted the net and found the highest concentration of legal CBD oil in the UK.

We found a 20% solution for £60 a bottle, you buy it and it comes in a bottle with a dropper and you put a couple of drops under the tongue and let them disipate with your mouth shut for about a minute.

1st off the stuff tastes fucking foul, its one of THE worth things I have ever tasted, and my ex wife was a shocking cook so I have experience! its like dirty pond water mixed with old wet dog.

This dose is taken 2/3/4 times a day so 1 bottle will last 1 person about a month at most for £60+.

We used it religiously for 3 months as they say its takes a while to build up in the blood until it becomes useful.

It did absolutely fuck all for myself and my wife other than leave an awful taste in the mouth, it was less than useless in every aspect, as I have said I have constant pain and also anxiety/PTSD and it did nothing for those symptoms either.

I think TBH as some people say that if you think it will do you good then maybe it will but any results will be totally psychosomatic or at best a coincidence.

Save your money.

And if anyone has any strong forms of pain relief please let myself and my wife know as we are both have active immunity for morphine and all its derivatives so rely on large doses of paracetamol alone.

I don't think there's much suggestion it can help the levels of pain you're talking about, certainly not in the doses that are available over the counter. There's too much anecdotal evidence for it to be only psychosomatic IMO.

I'd be interested to know what make you took. There's a chance you took a load of rubbish, as a lot on the market are, and it being 20% says nothing about the actual dose you were taking. I've got a 3000mg bottle, which is one of the largest concentrations you can get. It tastes mildly of the coconut oil it's mixed with, but my favourite is a blood orange flavoured one.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:31:57
TBH I don't remember the supplier but it was called Sensei but it was from a reputable supplier (not Holland and Barrett!) which had been recommended to us by 3 seperate people.

The dose was "allegedly" the highest legal dose available to UK customers and it specifically said use to treat Chronic Pain, cancer and anxiety on the reviews. It was mint flavoured but very little mint flavour in it just pond water.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:38:52
TBH I don't remember the supplier but it was called Sensei but it was from a reputable supplier (not Holland and Barrett!) which had been recommended to us by 3 seperate people.

The dose was "allegedly" the highest legal dose available to UK customers and it specifically said use to treat Chronic Pain, cancer and anxiety on the reviews. It was mint flavoured but very little mint flavour in it just pond water.

I'd suggest that's illegal to say it can be used for those things when there's no proof, and there's been at least one study that showed it do be ineffective when treating cancer patients. Chronic pain is a funny one, because it's not necessarily severe. Mine isn't severe bit I can feel the pain increasing after a week or so of not taking it.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:48:12
I agree I was surprised to see that actually advertised, several places actually advertised that on their products, which I took with a huge pinch of salt anyway, its by no means a miracle drug despite what some people advocate.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:58:42
Chances are they were morphine derived as are pretty much every painkiller available, certainly the stronger ones. Co Codamol, Vicodin,  Pethidine, OxyContin, Dyhydracodiene, Tramadol, Fentanyl,  Buprenorphine have tried them all but without any relief from pain so I am just on Paracetamol now staying off the opioids as they are pointless.

It was either the liquid morphine or tramadol


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, May 11, 2020, 11:12:38
https://blessedcbd.co.uk/product/cbd-oil-500mg/

I’ve ordered that, should be here tomorrow so I will see how I get on.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 12:05:45
It was either the liquid morphine or tramadol
Liquid is as it says a liquid that you drink, Tramadol is normally a tablet form. Neither does anything me, although Pethadine makes me feel sick.

https://blessedcbd.co.uk/product/cbd-oil-500mg/

I’ve ordered that, should be here tomorrow so I will see how I get on.
Fingers crossed it works for you mate, seems very hit and miss though, I think thats about half the concentration strength that we were taking, might work for you.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 12:54:46
Fingers crossed it works for you mate, seems very hit and miss though, I think thats about half the concentration strength that we were taking, might work for you.

Just as a point of reference you can get ones with ten times as much cbd in, and the one I take has 6 times as much.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:18:24
Just as a point of reference you can get ones with ten times as much cbd in, and the one I take has 6 times as much.
Out of interest what would you recommend as the best and strongest available in the UK?

The one which may give the best results?


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:34:38
Out of interest what would you recommend as the best and strongest available in the UK?

The one which may give the best results?

I use the 3000mg of this one....

https://www.zoetic.com/product/calming-natural-cbd-oil-30ml/

I can't comment on how good other products might be, but this one has 5000mg.

https://www.thecbdshop.co.uk/product/5000mg-cbd-oil/

Yours may have had 2000mg if it was 20% and 10ml, without knowing the volume I can't say. I wouldn't have thought either of these could help with your level of pain though mate. The recommended maximum daily dose is currently 75mg, although I think that's an extremely cautious limit.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:48:56
Cheers for that mate, I am more worried about it helping the missus with her joint pain, might be worth another go, I will try and find what the actual one was that we used see how it measures up. Shes got the delivery details on her PC somewhere.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:52:51
Why not just get some weed?


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:58:08
Just spoke to her and the last one we got has this as its list of ingredients. I don't remember the first one we got though.
Quote
Cannabis Extract, Olive Oil. 800mg of CBD + CBDa Per 10ml bottle 0.32ml of CBD oil per spray Contains trace amounts of THC.
Not sure how that compares, we paid £50.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 11, 2020, 14:00:34
Why not just get some weed?
Mostly because myself and the wife drive on at least a daily basis (when not in lockdown of course). And I cannot afford to lose my licence. The new driving regulations say it takes at least 3 days to fully leave the system and not show up on a roadside drug swipe.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, May 11, 2020, 18:36:13

https://www.thecbdshop.co.uk/product/5000mg-cbd-oil/


That is the one I had.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: otanswell on Monday, May 11, 2020, 21:30:30
Biggest racket going
Just smoke a spliff


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 11, 2020, 22:49:18
Mostly because myself and the wife drive on at least a daily basis (when not in lockdown of course). And I cannot afford to lose my licence. The new driving regulations say it takes at least 3 days to fully leave the system and not show up on a roadside drug swipe.

And it stinks.


Title: Re: CBD Oil
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:02:18
And it stinks.
Flash ??.