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Title: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 11:46:31
I've had my current selection of work shirts for some time now and i'm going to have to bite the bullet and get rid of a lot of them as I've noticed they have badly frayed collars and cuffs. (oooooooh matron!!)

I resent spending a lot of money on work clothes and prefer to shop on the internet rather than in a physical store.

Anyone got some tips on the best place to get work shirts that won't break the bank? My office is fairly relaxed so don't require fancy shirts with cufflinks etc, just a basic cotton job will do.

Danke.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 11:48:39
Matalan or Primark.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 11:50:24
I know its a bit cliché but the best value vs quality vs longivity I always buy M & S.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 11:56:14
Matalan and M & S look like they will do the job. They do packs of 3/5 which should do the job.

I know its a bit cliché but the best value vs quality vs longivity I always buy M & S.

I tend to agree actually.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:02:47
H&M easy iron. Usually about £10, last ages and the checked ones don't even need ironing. Just get them out the washer and hang them straight away.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:07:14
Another vote for H&M here. The place is good value in general.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:08:51
H&M easy iron. Usually about £10, last ages and the checked ones don't even need ironing. Just get them out the washer and hang them straight away.

Oh really? The non-iron shirts I have always bought always need to be bloody ironed. I'll maybe need to give the H&M ones a whirl!


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:29:39
M & S - I wear their cotton Oxford shirt for work every day. Only £20 a go and last forever.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:39:43
M & S - I wear their cotton Oxford shirt for work every day. Only £20 a go and last forever.
Well buy two then and change it every other day, you smelly git :)


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:46:28
M & S - I wear their cotton Oxford shirt for work every day. Only £20 a go and last forever.

And I hope everyone spits on it too.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:50:58
And I hope everyone spits on it too.
How very Heart of Midlothian!


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:58:09
How very Heart of Midlothian!

Really? I was going for a bit more parochial.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:01:51
H&M easy iron. Usually about £10, last ages and the checked ones don't even need ironing. Just get them out the washer and hang them straight away.

Like most things in H&M do they size incredibly small? I have bought casual shirts from their and whilst I am not remotely broad shouldered they are always very tight across the shoulders!


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:06:44
And the TEF's drift from sweary, edgy blokiness into middle-aged mumsnet continues inexorably.

How are we going to get the new blood in with this sort of pulse-raising stuff? Please someone think of the kids!


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:15:19
And the TEF's drift from sweary, edgy blokiness into middle-aged mumsnet continues inexorably.

How are we going to get the new blood in with this sort of pulse-raising stuff? Please someone think of the kids!

Must have missed that bit....


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:16:50
And the TEF's drift from sweary, edgy blokiness into middle-aged mumsnet continues inexorably.

How are we going to get the new blood in with this sort of pulse-raising stuff? Please someone think of the kids!

But why? They are bloody irritating! :)


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:17:00
And the TEF's drift from sweary, edgy blokiness into middle-aged mumsnet continues inexorably.

How are we going to get the new blood in with this sort of pulse-raising stuff? Please someone think of the kids!

Only to be expected.

It reflects the general lurch to the right... you can only get cheap shirts from the likes of M and S and H and M, because of the exploitation of Bangladeshi workers, who have been involved recently in strikes and protests to improve wages and conditions, a factory fell down killing 2,500 workers.



Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:22:26
Only to be expected.

It reflects the general lurch to the right... you can only get cheap shirts from the likes of M and S and H and M, because of the exploitation of Bangladeshi workers, who have been involved recently in strikes and protests to improve wages and conditions, a factory fell down killing 2,500 workers.



So where do you get your shirts from Reg?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:23:58
So where do you get your shirts from Reg?

Charity shops....


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:27:01
I stick to white cotton shirts, with cuffs as it happens, and generally "Buy" like a shrewd but also ruthless asset stripper when I get the opportunity at GBP 20.00.  M&S may be a banker but, less boringly, TK Max can offer some interesting alternatives.

Reg with a serious and valid "political" point to shame those of us with scruples who don't necessarily act on them.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:37:04
Charity shops....

Which presumably hadn't initially come from M&S or H&M or similarly from an entity which has exploited child labour?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:39:13
Be gentle.

Reg only exploits eastern European young laydeez


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:40:59
Which presumably hadn't initially come from M&S or H&M or similarly from an entity which has exploited child labour?

I try to avoid, but I'm sure it isn't fool proof.   However, there is the secondary consideration of avoiding unnecessary consumption and the waste of finite resources, by going second hand.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:42:38
I've started to picture Reg as the crowman.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: jutty274 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:53:19
Like most things in H&M do they size incredibly small? I have bought casual shirts from their and whilst I am not remotely broad shouldered they are always very tight across the shoulders!
I like most of the stuff in H&M but being a fat bastard they don't make anything near big enough for me here, I did however pick up some nice shirts in the H&M in Copenhagen which fitted really well.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 13:59:00
Must have missed that bit....

You don't get much of this sort of stuff since the likes of Ironside goose-stepped over the horizon.

And like a cunt you are full of spunk, fuck off you cum filled frog clunge, don't bring a knife to a sword fight, just wave your froggy white flag now.

In fact, that seems to be the last occasion on which the word "clunge" appeared on the TEF. Has it disappeared from common parlance since DMR got banged up?

(Sorry if this is offending those who are looking for good dress-shirt advice.)


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:01:49
Be gentle.

Reg only exploits eastern European young laydeez

In his imagination...

I've started to picture Reg as the crowman.

Worzel Bummidge? (will only work if you watched the most recent incarnation, t'was my daughters favourite bit of the whole show)


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:02:46
Like most things in H&M do they size incredibly small? I have bought casual shirts from their and whilst I am not remotely broad shouldered they are always very tight across the shoulders!

I couldn't say. I wear a medium and they fit me fine. I'm neither tall or chubby though so your mileage may vary.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:05:30
I've started to picture Reg as the crowman.

A bit like Old Ned, of the May Horns tradition, Ned has to be encouraged to awaken fertility in May.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fZcmZtoyLSE/XI1UB77DiHI/AAAAAAAAM6A/JN-OdFgaWbEmMF15uoBGaqHmb9UuZSsmgCLcBGAs/s1600/may%2Bhorn%2Bprocession%2B2.jpg)


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:06:51
Only to be expected.

It reflects the general lurch to the right... you can only get cheap shirts from the likes of M and S and H and M, because of the exploitation of Bangladeshi workers, who have been involved recently in strikes and protests to improve wages and conditions, a factory fell down killing 2,500 workers.
While you might have a broader point about the general shittiness of the clothing industry, it's stretching it some to accuse people of buying their shirts new as being evidence of a "general lurch to the right".  Unless they're buying black shirts with deaths-head accessories, perhaps.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:23:47
Only to be expected.

It reflects the general lurch to the right... you can only get cheap shirts from the likes of M and S and H and M, because of the exploitation of Bangladeshi workers, who have been involved recently in strikes and protests to improve wages and conditions, a factory fell down killing 2,500 workers.



It didn't kill 2,500 workers, I thought you only traded in FACTS?

Edit - and before you take a leap onto the virtuous high ground and try to twist this and suggest the above in some manner proves that I condone far east factory conditions, that is not what I said. However, making vastly inflated claims to try and justify some manner of contrived political point helps no one, and could be considered quite morally dubious.



Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:32:27
There were around 2,500 non-fatal injuries and 1,134 deaths according to Wiki. Still absolutely shocking nonetheless.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:35:35
There were around 2,500 non-fatal injuries and 1,134 deaths according to Wiki. Still absolutely shocking nonetheless.

Oh completely, the one interesting thing that came on the back of it was that the same factory was servicing both top end and bottom end retailers and on the whole it was the bottom end ones that reacted better to what happened and did more for the victims.

So what is morally worse, buying a shirt for £2 wholesale and flogging for £10, or buying a shirt for £2 wholesale and flogging for £80.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:37:08
It didn't kill 2,500 workers, I thought you only traded in FACTS?

Edit - and before you take a leap onto the virtuous high ground and try to twist this and suggest the above in some manner proves that I condone far east factory conditions, that is not what I said. However, making vastly inflated claims to try and justify some manner of contrived political point helps no one, and could be considered quite morally dubious.

Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 14:40:18
Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.

Agreed, still has sweet fanny adams to do with a lurch to the right!


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:23:29
My misses got me 2 new shirts at the weekend. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:31:37
‘It’s lampshade time’

For the uninitiated

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ad0bb90f-da5a-46ae-a1d1-796117ac120b


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:37:58
Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.

It's easy to blame the West Reg, most people do  ::) what would happen to those workers if nobody bought the product?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:38:49
But why? They are bloody irritating! :)
The shirts or the Kids ???.     ;D ;D


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:39:04
My misses got me 2 new shirts at the weekend. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?

Are they Hugo Boss shirts?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:44:34
Or Brown or Black?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:46:31
One is brown.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:58:46
One is brown.

I believe that makes you SA scum?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 16:24:53
It's easy to blame the West Reg, most people do  ::) what would happen to those workers if nobody bought the product?

In the 60's and 70's, a more radical time, there was a product boycott of South Africa, which included British banks and companies who invested heavily in SA. It eventually helped bring down the apartheid system. 

If such a boycott of exploiters of fellow Bangla workers could be organised here then maybe their pay and conditions  could be improved.   However one of the symptoms of the rightward drift is more individualism and less collectivism, hence it's now down to individuals whether they follow an ethical lifestyle, and what that might mean for their decisions.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 16:49:44
Was it Bob's Orange who asked the other day about "Virtue Signalling" and what it meant? Just read the derailing of this thread. And PP, you're right, it's not always the right who use the term, I now realise.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 17:25:03
Was it Bob's Orange who asked the other day about "Virtue Signalling" and what it meant? Just read the derailing of this thread. And PP, you're right, it's not always the right who use the term, I now realise.

Quote
I've only ever seen/heard it used as a put down by alt right types

However, your latest weak attempt at a put down would tie in with your previous thoughts....


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 18:14:54
My misses got me 2 new shirts at the weekend. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?

So it's a choice between Reg's hairshirt approach and your Herr Shirt approach ....


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 18:40:22
I've had my current selection of work shirts for some time now and i'm going to have to bite the bullet and get rid of a lot of them as I've noticed they have badly frayed collars and cuffs. (oooooooh matron!!)

I resent spending a lot of money on work clothes and prefer to shop on the internet rather than in a physical store.

Anyone got some tips on the best place to get work shirts that won't break the bank? My office is fairly relaxed so don't require fancy shirts with cufflinks etc, just a basic cotton job will do.

Danke.

I've been getting my work shirts from TM Lewin for 20 years.  They're not the best quality, but they last a few years.  I tend, like you, to wear them to destruction and then throw them all out at the same time as buying a new batch.  I used to work just off Jermyn Street where they had a flagship store (like a lot of other shirt makers). These days, I just buy online.  Just beware of the sizing.  'Slim fit' does not mean slim.

Also got in to the habit when I first started working (25 yes ago) of buying double cuff shirts.  And I cant drop it.  Its v old fashioned these days, but I'm still a cuff link man.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Mother Brown on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 18:51:35
However, your latest weak attempt at a put down would tie in with your previous thoughts....
Do you wear a tie Reg ?


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 19:39:59
Do you wear a tie Reg ?

I've actually got a collection if ties, but haven't worn one since I last did some work, which is about 2 and a half years now.

I know it will be controversial on here, but I quite liked Dave Mackay ties for the STFC connection..... pride of place in the collection goes to my 1962/63 promotion players commemorating tie and 69 players LC winning tie.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: Mother Brown on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 19:55:56
I've actually got a collection if ties, but haven't worn one since I last did some work, which is about 2 and a half years now.

I know it will be controversial on here, but I quite liked Dave Mackay ties for the STFC connection..... pride of place in the collection goes to my 1962/63 promotion players commemorating tie and 69 players LC winning tie.
Fair play Reg, apart from the Dave Mackay one.


Title: Re: Work/Dress shirts
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 20:17:45
Charles Tyrwhitt for me. very good quality and dont break the bank; can pick them up for about 30quid each if you buy 4. 6 month guarantee on them.

buy quality or buy twice