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Title: Donohue
Post by: Waffle on Thursday, November 14, 2019, 15:48:50
So what do we think is going on with the Donohue deal?

My theory is if he goes down for assault/jail time the contract is cancelled and that the contract is only till the summer with an option for the club. But probably on low wages as he hasn’t got much negotiations weight behind him at the mo.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 14, 2019, 19:23:33
Forgive my ignorance but what's the lad done?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 14, 2019, 20:05:47
Him and another Mansfield first teamer beat up a youth team player - allegedly.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, November 15, 2019, 08:39:39
Forgive my ignorance but what's the lad done?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mansfield-town-sack-midfielder-dion-19173211


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 15, 2019, 09:13:25
Wasn't there something about a nightclub incident in 2012 too.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 15, 2019, 10:03:35
Wasn't there something about a nightclub incident in 2012 too.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/teenager-pleads-guilty-assaulting-woman-2670516


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Arriba on Friday, November 15, 2019, 10:43:48
Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 18, 2019, 15:01:57
So after the Salford game Wellens said to wait until Monday when asked about Donohue. Wonder what's going to happen?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 18, 2019, 15:33:35
So after the Salford game Wellens said to wait until Monday when asked about Donohue. Wonder what's going to happen?
I like Wellens but hes often economical with the truth and with timescales in his interviews. That could well be out of his control as he reports what he himself knows.

I don't expect things to happen on the day when he says it will now.

I expect Donohue to return and stay till the end of the season or at least January, he is the best left back we have had in a long time and even though Iandolo did fine on Saturday I think we did still missed his early crosses into the box and his better defending qualities.

I think it must be down to inflated wages rather than any upcoming disciplinary proceedings. When he realises he cannot play for any other club other than Swindon or Mansfield(he played 1 game for them earlier in the season) he will come back.

Just my personal feeling and not based on anything.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 18, 2019, 15:45:58
That he's often economical with the truth regarding player movements is one of the reasons I like him.

Fans don't need to know about this stuff until it happens, and I'm all for the club letting other clubs known as little as possible.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 18, 2019, 15:56:33
That he's often economical with the truth regarding player movements is one of the reasons I like him.

Fans don't need to know about this stuff until it happens, and I'm all for the club letting other clubs known as little as possible.
Absolutely.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: DiV on Monday, November 18, 2019, 16:01:41
With regards to the ‘two club’ rule

Is it just holding their registration or any competitive game or specifically league games?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 18, 2019, 16:05:05
With regards to the ‘two club’ rule

Is it just holding their registration or any competitive game or specifically league games?

Quote
Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:09:32

And played in the league cup for Mansfield so that’s his playing options gone until the summer.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:25:32
I think Venks knows that :)


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:39:49
And played in the league cup for Mansfield so that’s his playing options gone until the summer.
Indeed he did.
I think Venks knows that :)
Indeed I do.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:50:54
Indeed he did.Indeed I do.
Which is more than wiki as the press seem to know. When his contract is was terminated a lot of the articles say he never played a competitive game for Mansfield.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:52:08
Which is more than wiki as the press seem to know. When his contract is was terminated a lot of the articles say he never played a competitive game for Mansfield.
I think he played 45 mins for them in the League Cup 1st round then didn't play again due to injury.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 18, 2019, 17:58:07
To be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if Mansfield have come sniffing back around. Poor form and a manager under pressure can lead to pretty sharp U turns.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 21:45:11
Signed and sealed to be announced in the morning - excellent.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 14:44:12
Signed and sealed to be announced in the morning - excellent.

Which morning?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 16:04:41
Which morning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4JhtoR39M0


Pure Morning!


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 17:42:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4JhtoR39M0


Pure Morning!

Thanks, I always forget how fucking good Placebo were!!


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 17:44:58
Signed and sealed to be announced in the morning - excellent.

I know I am up north, but am I in a different time zone to Swindon?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 17:49:17
A friend in needs a friend indeed...

Saw these bastards years back but then had an opportunity to see them three years ago (on their 20years Tour) in Notts. Then long story short, went to Rough Trade and bought the album for a tenner. Got a 30/40min acoustic set followed by an album signing by Brian and Stefan. One of the best tenners I've ever spent. You can barely get Cod n Chips for that!  :)


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 09:46:49
Chang wrong? I am SHOCKED


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: DiV on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 09:58:10
Chang wrong? I am SHOCKED

Not just Chang.
Fake news travels far & wide


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 09:59:27
Not just Chang.
Fake news travels far & wide

It was reported by the Adver, who suggested it came straight from Wellens?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 10:32:40
Wellens literally said it in his post-match.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 10:46:48
I did wonder whether this delay could all be related to the fact that we are coincidentally playing Mansfield on Saturday and they were being awkward regarding his registration, but they straight sacked him didn't they?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 11:30:42
Club have enjoyed a frw late confirmations recently.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 12:29:16
I did wonder whether this delay could all be related to the fact that we are coincidentally playing Mansfield on Saturday and they were being awkward regarding his registration, but they straight sacked him didn't they?

And he has played for us since


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 14:09:03
I could be a little Mansfield mind fuck, we know how Wellens likes a little fake newcs surrounding the team selection.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Waffle on Friday, November 22, 2019, 15:20:34
Signed till the end of the season according to the adver interview


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Friday, November 22, 2019, 17:32:05
I'd love him to slot one against Mansfield.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:02:09
Missed this...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18057871.swindon-towns-move-sign-defender-dion-donohue-blocked-football-association---richie-wellens-hopeful-can-involved-grimsby/


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:06:06
Missed this...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18057871.swindon-towns-move-sign-defender-dion-donohue-blocked-football-association---richie-wellens-hopeful-can-involved-grimsby/
Yeah that came out last Monday and Wellens also spoke about it before the game on the radio before the last game.

I hope its cleared now and he is back, not sure you could drop Caddis or Hunt to bring him straight back in though as both did decent jobs last week even if Hunt is a way better right back than left back he has been one of our most consistant players this season so far.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:21:10
Anyone know what the Isgrove and Fryers references are in the article re chequered pasts?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:24:15
Anyone know what the Isgrove and Fryers references are in the article re chequered pasts?
Surely with Isgrove it's simply a reference to his record of repeated injuries rather than a "chequered past" as such?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:25:12
Think that is a reference to their injury record, rather than anything untoward. I had the same thought when I first read it.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 11:31:03
Think that is a reference to their injury record, rather than anything untoward. I had the same thought when I first read it.
Me too, lumping injuries with legal issues is a bit of poor journalism IMO.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:03:55
Me too, lumping injuries with legal issues is a bit of poor journalism IMO.
Poor journalism? In the Adver? Shurely shome mistake!


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 13:48:57
If it is simply the injury record, that's a seriously loose and unnecessary link.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 13:57:51
From memory, and I could be very wrong, I thought Wellens was referring to them not knuckling down as youngsters, getting a bit caught up in their position as top level pro's and allowing it to slip away a bit.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 15:31:04
From memory, and I could be very wrong, I thought Wellens was referring to them not knuckling down as youngsters, getting a bit caught up in their position as top level pro's and allowing it to slip away a bit.

Its a bit of a leap from there to beating us a lass in a nightclub and allegedly thumping a youth team colleague....


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 14:43:48
Yeah that came out last Monday and Wellens also spoke about it before the game on the radio before the last game.

I hope its cleared now and he is back, not sure you could drop Caddis or Hunt to bring him straight back in though as both did decent jobs last week even if Hunt is a way better right back than left back he has been one of our most consistant players this season so far.
Sounds like it is a bit of a cock-up our end, should have extended his contract before it was up, EFL wont sanction another until the window is open now it would seem.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 14:54:48
Sounds like it is a bit of a cock-up our end, should have extended his contract before it was up, EFL wont sanction another until the window is open now it would seem.
Depends on the reason for not doing it straight away though I guess, Wellens said there was a reason but I wanted to keep it in house. Putting 2 + 2 together I think there was a genuine risk of him going to prison in which case we'd have looked a bit stupid  signing him until the end of the season only for him to go down. So we prioritised Caddis and waited on Donohue, worst case he can't play until the start of January so still means we have him for the second half of the season.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 19:20:42
Depends on the reason for not doing it straight away though I guess, Wellens said there was a reason but I wanted to keep it in house. Putting 2 + 2 together I think there was a genuine risk of him going to prison in which case we'd have looked a bit stupid  signing him until the end of the season only for him to go down. So we prioritised Caddis and waited on Donohue, worst case he can't play until the start of January so still means we have him for the second half of the season.
Totally agree, although we could have put in a clause in a contract to the effect it would be cancelled if he went down - maybe that was the sticking point and DD wouldn't accept it.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 19:27:43
Totally agree, although we could have put in a clause in a contract to the effect it would be cancelled if he went down - maybe that was the sticking point and DD wouldn't accept it.

Maybe as it stands his wages and that if Caddis was to much under the FFP criteria and given the choice, Caddis was the easier less messy option.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 19:29:24
Totally agree, although we could have put in a clause in a contract to the effect it would be cancelled if he went down - maybe that was the sticking point and DD wouldn't accept it.
That surely wouldn't make sense though as the original contract was only for one month (presumably for the same reason) so either way he would lose out.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 21:35:44
To be honest the EFL make the rules up as they go along so it's impossible to second guess them, looking at the Sheffield Wednesday situation you can't even rely on their own communication. I hope the Sheff Wed owner takes them to the cleaners as he's threatening, wonder what would happen if they actually went bust....


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: pauld on Friday, December 6, 2019, 12:00:54
To be honest the EFL make the rules up as they go along so it's impossible to second guess them, looking at the Sheffield Wednesday situation you can't even rely on their own communication. I hope the Sheff Wed owner takes them to the cleaners as he's threatening, wonder what would happen if they actually went bust....
We wouldn't have a league to play in and so we'd go bust too. Not sure why you'd want that?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, December 6, 2019, 12:09:57
We wouldn't have a league to play in and so we'd go bust too. Not sure why you'd want that?
Well something needs to change and this might force a much needed shake up. The EFL currently isn’t fit for purpose and just seems to lurch from bad decision to bad decision.  The odds on them doing anything to significantly change things without being forced is next to none it would basically be turkeys voting for Christmas.  They need someone to take them to the cleaners and show them that they aren’t beyond accountability.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: pauld on Friday, December 6, 2019, 13:34:17
Well something needs to change and this might force a much needed shake up. The EFL currently isn’t fit for purpose and just seems to lurch from bad decision to bad decision.  The odds on them doing anything to significantly change things without being forced is next to none it would basically be turkeys voting for Christmas.  They need someone to take them to the cleaners and show them that they aren’t beyond accountability.
Completely agree with all this, bar the last bit, as it would impact all the league's members. But you're right that the governance of football in this country is an absolute joke and has been for years.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 13:45:56
Not available until January.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 13:48:13
Caddis looking a very astute signing in that case. Fuck the EFL.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 14:06:19
From the very limited information it seems to suggest that there has ben a 5 day break in contract which is the problem?

I don't really understand, outside the transfer window he left Mansfield and was OOC, he then left us and was OOC so what is different?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 14:22:24
Quite, its not as if it is even another team trying to register him


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 14:28:00


I don't really understand, outside the transfer window he left Mansfield and was OOC, he then left us and was OOC so what is different?
It's a request from that 'cheating' Swindon team.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 20:58:34
So I wonder where we are on this one now?



Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: tans on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 21:04:59
Do we really need him?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 21:07:21
Do we really need him?

We lose Iandolo and suddenly we're looking a tad bare.

Donoue is not fit according to Wellens. I don't know what that means in regards to whether or not we sign him again. 


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 21:12:53
My interpretation of Donohue, based on Wellens' post-match, was 'he's unfit and we have other areas to prioritise'.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 21:20:40
I saw reference to Wellens saying he was unfit in the match day thread.

There was also a mention of defensive injuries and one coming in soon.

Are these two things related?

Do we have a link to the interview?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 21:21:32
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07zb6y9


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 09:32:33
Prioritise a CB, meaning Zeki can cover LB. We don't need Donohue right now.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 10:30:19
My interpretation of Donohue, based on Wellens' post-match, was 'he's unfit and we have other areas to prioritise'.
That was how I heard it too. A non-breakable CB would be the priority surely?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:10:12
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07zb6y9
Thank you


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: bathford on Saturday, January 4, 2020, 19:36:37
He was sat in the Directors box today with the Club Secretary.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, January 4, 2020, 19:42:26
He was sat in the Directors box today with the Club Secretary.
If he’s fit it’s a no brainer to sign him, as Hunt doesn’t always look comfortable on the left and we do need cover there.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 4, 2020, 19:51:54
If he’s fit it’s a no brainer to sign him, as Hunt doesn’t always look comfortable on the left and we do need cover there.
Definately, hes easily the best left back we have had in years with or without Hunt playing there.


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 6, 2020, 13:02:56
When is he due to be sentenced ?


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, January 6, 2020, 13:07:40
When is he due to be sentenced ?


Appearing for the five-minute hearing, magistrates ruled that the case was not suitable for summary trial and sent it to Nottingham Crown Court, where Donohue and Mellis will next appear on January 17.

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/crime/former-and-current-mansfield-town-players-appear-in-court-over-attacks-on-men-1-10165632


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 6, 2020, 13:08:17
When is he due to be sentenced ?

After they appeared in court on December 20th it was sent to trial on 17th January in Nottingham.

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/crime/former-and-current-mansfield-town-players-appear-in-court-over-attacks-on-men-1-10165632

EDIT: beaten to it :)


Title: Re: Donohue
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 6, 2020, 16:47:26
Appearing for the five-minute hearing, magistrates ruled that the case was not suitable for summary trial and sent it to Nottingham Crown Court, where Donohue and Mellis will next appear on January 17.

https://www.chad.co.uk/news/crime/former-and-current-mansfield-town-players-appear-in-court-over-attacks-on-men-1-10165632

So you wonder if stfc are waiting for the outcome of the court case in case he has to visit her maj prisons