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Title: Confession
Post by: mexico red on Monday, September 2, 2019, 19:50:26
Starts on itv in a minute, I realise this is very close to a few people on here just thought I would give a heads up


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: mexico red on Monday, September 2, 2019, 19:51:09
Wrong topic could a admin move it please


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 2, 2019, 19:58:15
yeah, kind of interested to see it but feels a bit uncomfortably close. And I don't know anyone involved

Have her our Becky's parents made any statement on whether they gave consent for it?


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: mexico red on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:07:21
Think they helped out but could be wrong, this is a difficult watch


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:14:27
Don’t think I can bring myself to watch it. Know a lot of people involved in this.

I hope to god the families were asked for permission. No one would be that disgustingly heartless, right?


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: mexico red on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:26:34
Def asked, also copper was consultant on set


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:27:12
that's good to know that permission was given


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Tails on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:41:48
I was quite close to this, I've told my partner about it quite a bit so watching out of curiosity.

Finding it quite difficult. It was horrendous at the time.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, September 2, 2019, 20:56:14
Mrs wants to watch it. I won't go near it.

Lived about a minute's drive away from Old Town at the time at mum and dad's. The feeling around the town was terrifying and I don't know anyone involved. Worst nightmare.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, September 2, 2019, 21:03:13
I want to watch it but I’m quite apprehensive. I grew up with Sian’s boyfriend Kevin so it’s all close to home.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 2, 2019, 21:26:16
I want to watch it but I’m quite apprehensive. I grew up with Sian’s boyfriend Kevin so it’s all close to home.

Do you still see anything of him?

Used to work with him and occasionally our paths crossed playing football and what not.
Not bumped into him for a few years now, hope he’s doing ok. Throughly genuine decent bloke.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:02:12
Do you still see anything of him?

Used to work with him and occasionally our paths crossed playing football and what not.
Not bumped into him for a few years now, hope he’s doing ok. Throughly genuine decent bloke.
Not so much these days really.

I was not aware until i watched Ep1 yesterday that Kevin was being played by Curtin from This Country. The producers could not be any further away with a representation of Kevin if they tried. And don't get me started on the accent.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:14:07
The dodgy west country accents are horrendous.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:36:38
Not so much these days really.

I was not aware until i watched Ep1 yesterday that Kevin was being played by Curtin from This Country. The producers could not be any further away with a representation of Kevin if they tried. And don't get me started on the accent.

I imagine he’s quite reclusive these day. Wouldnt be surprised if moved away from Swindon.

Probably got the hair colour right but that’s about it...!!!


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:42:12
Not so much these days really.

I was not aware until i watched Ep1 yesterday that Kevin was being played by Curtin from This Country. The producers could not be any further away with a representation of Kevin if they tried. And don't get me started on the accent.

The Curtin fella's from Cirencester isn't he ???


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:49:51
The Curtin fella's from Cirencester isn't he ???

Yes, but I think that's his TV West Country accent, rather than his real one.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 09:57:28
It's how we sound to others though.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:02:30
It's how we sound to others though.
It isn't. Speaking as an "incomer"


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:14:06
It's how we sound to others though.

Its strange, when I grew up in Oxfordshire I got a lot of grief for being a yokel because of my accent (dad from Swindon, mum from deepest Gloucestershire - I never had a bloody chance :D), however moving up north when I first met the missus (from Yorkshire) she thought I was dead posh!


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:15:56
I sound more like a yokel than I imagined when I heard myself on video recently.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:25:59
I’m an outsider and you certainly do hear plenty of strong Yokel accents, similar to in this program, at the CG


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:43:58
It isn't. Speaking as an "incomer"
The other incomers disagree. I have had conversations with you and can confirm your hearing is shit anyway  ;)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:47:43
Fred Elliot's Wiltshire accent got steadily thicker the more he drank when we had a few the other week.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 10:53:57
Fred Elliot's Wiltshire accent got steadily thicker the more he drank when we had a few the other week.

From my days as a student in Newcastle I still get more and more geordie the more pissed I get!


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:13:18
The other incomers disagree. I have had conversations with you and can confirm your hearing is shit anyway  ;)
What d'you say?


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:14:04
From my days as a student in Newcastle I still get more and more geordie the more pissed I get!
Ha, I'm told I get quite Scouse when I've had a few :) Although that's by Southerners so I suspect it's not very Scouse at all.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:21:27
Calm down.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:22:50
Calm down.
Youse, outside, car park*









* if I'm not there in 5 minutes, start without me


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:24:54
Fred Elliot's Wiltshire accent got steadily thicker the more he drank when we had a few the other week.
My missus's strong deepest darkest Dorset accent gets to a point that when shes had a few to drink when chatting with her sister (happens regularly) I can understand probably 1 out of every 3 words they say to each other. Think of the Cadburys Caramel Bunny on speed.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:28:55
Youse, outside, car park*









* if I'm not there in 5 minutes, start without me

I'm banned from attending  :)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: RedRag on Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:10:59
Growing up in the 60s/70s in the Newbury area, there was an oikish West Berks accent - not so different from Pam Ayers' Oxfordshire accent.

I was always struck however by the "west country accent" I heard at the County Ground.  It was if there was some magical dividing line, more or less at Swindon, that determined the start of the west country.

I never have fathomed exactly where that line is drawn.  Southern accents are, to my ear, much less distinctive than they used to be.  It is nevertheless still evident (to a much lesser degree) at the County Ground, and part of feeling at home.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:21:26
For me the West Country starts west of Newbury, Andover and Oxford, not including those Towns/cities.

Accents on TV are never very good TBH, which is to be understood, they can't get it all right all of the time.

The worst for me is living right on the border of Somerset/Dorset/Devon and 12 miles from where Broadchurch was filmed, knowing what the locals sound like and hearing the poor Olivia Coleman accent and the awful worse Jodie Whittaker almost made it unwatchable. Throw in the token Bristolian Joe Sims just for hiw drawl "me babber" accent ruined it.

They always portray any West Country accent as being broadly just Bristolian, which is really harsh in comparison to the soft Dorset/Somerset/Wiltshire accent. The Devon and Cornwall accents are similar but noticably different to anybody with any hearing!


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:26:07
Growing up in the 60s/70s in the Newbury area, there was an oikish West Berks accent - not so different from Pam Ayers' Oxfordshire accent.

I was always struck however by the "west country accent" I heard at the County Ground.  It was if there was some magical dividing line, more or less at Swindon, that determined the start of the west country.

I never have fathomed exactly where that line is drawn.  Southern accents are, to my ear, much less distinctive than they used to be.  It is nevertheless still evident (to a much lesser degree) at the County Ground, and part of feeling at home.

The dividing line goes through wherever Football Phil happens to be.  :)

When a town fan is interviewed on TV, they always seem to pick on a proper country bumpkin yokel type.
Thankfully not everyone talks like Steve Cotterill from these 'ere parts.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:36:16
If ever I'm interviewed outside the county ground I'm going to have a bit of straw in my pocket ready to chew on.  :)

To me anyone from Trowbridge sounds Bath/Bristolian, the local Swindon accent sounds South Gloucs to me.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:59:21
I grew up in Wiltshire but was always puzzled by the assertion that it forms part of the westcountry.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:04:49
I grew up in Wiltshire but was always puzzled by the assertion that it forms part of the westcountry.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Westcountrymap.png)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:13:41
I think that the south west region and the west country differ.  The plan from Wikipedia shows the south west region. The west country probably starts at, say, Taunton.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:21:02
For me the West Country starts west of Newbury, Andover and Oxford, not including those Towns/cities.

Accents on TV are never very good TBH, which is to be understood, they can't get it all right all of the time.

The worst for me is living right on the border of Somerset/Dorset/Devon and 12 miles from where Broadchurch was filmed, knowing what the locals sound like and hearing the poor Olivia Coleman accent and the awful worse Jodie Whittaker almost made it unwatchable. Throw in the token Bristolian Joe Sims just for hiw drawl "me babber" accent ruined it.

They always portray any West Country accent as being broadly just Bristolian, which is really harsh in comparison to the soft Dorset/Somerset/Wiltshire accent. The Devon and Cornwall accents are similar but noticably different to anybody with any hearing!

I think living in the location concerned will have locals picking fault with accents etc. Broadchurch was a fantastic show but I understand what you're saying.

The accents in Confession are more ooh aargh than we are but we do sound like that to others( as I've had the piss taken out of me on my travels for it). I'm sure the bigger audience won't take any notice of the accents, just like I didn't in Broadchurch.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:25:18
I think that the south west region and the west country differ.  The plan from Wikipedia shows the south west region. The west country probably starts at, say, Taunton.

Yes the south west and the west country are not the same.  WC is approx parts of Wilts/Glos/Sonerset/Dorset. The old Wessex heartland of Edington. There are boundaries, but somewhat inexact however.

Swindon is in but only just, the eastern boundary being roughly at the Acorn Bridge on the 420


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:28:50
I think living in the location concerned will have locals picking fault with accents etc. Broadchurch was a fantastic show but I understand what you're saying.

The accents in Confession are more ooh aargh than we are but we do sound like that to others( as I've had the piss taken out of me on my travels for it). I'm sure the bigger audience won't take any notice of the accents, just like I didn't in Broadchurch.
Oh absolutely, the accent thing only ever really bothers locals anyway as the great scheme of things there is no difference in, say, the Devon and Wiltshire accent to somebody from Manchester or Birmingham!

I loved Broadchurch but whinced with some of the accents, I have yet to watch Confessions but have it on the Sky Q box ready to go so can't comment on the "ooo arr" bit yet :)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: GosportNob on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:40:48
Accents can be deceptive. When I moved from Lancashire to Lennox Drive it wasn't long before I spoke with a cocky twang due to everyone else having moved from London! It was great fun walking to school each day dressed in Grammar School shorts and cap having jolly banter with bigger kids from a "floored" position. Those were the days.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: GosportNob on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:43:18
Must read before I post in future! Should be cockney! Ha Ha.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:48:51
Yes the south west and the west country are not the same.  WC is approx parts of Wilts/Glos/Sonerset/Dorset. The old Wessex heartland of Edington. There are boundaries, but somewhat inexact however.

Swindon is in but only just, the eastern boundary being roughly at the Acorn Bridge on the 420


I am not sure that this is correct and I suspect that Cornwall and Devon will have something to say about that. Of course, in the absence of a formal definition, we can all say that we are right.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:51:01
As PV similarly says, I would say it starts from around Hungerford due West. Newbury would make the cut but the blend of West London wannabe's (read as Bracknell Reading/Slough) overspilling into a country town throws up some interesting accents. It's a town torn with it's roots and being just another commuter town in the "golden circle". I can only describe the accent there (discounting extreme East & West versions) as "Partly Posh, Chavvy Farmer". I'm sure those who know will get what I mean.

I enjoyed living to the South of Newbury though. Retained a countryside element but you didn't have to go much further South before you came to B-Town. Basingstoke removes the farmer/yokel element and just becomes more London wannabe - there is an excuse though, it was a town built as a true London overspill. It always makes me wonder how many people born in Portsmouth /Southampton seemingly attain a "cockernee" element to theirs, it's the London overspill again but I am surprised that it's become increasingly more aligned with the smoke than strong accents from the west. It shows if anything the strength and influence an accent can have on certain areas. Some places are virtually impenetrable.

Oh and PV, I'd say the West Country stops at somewhere along the Somerset/Devon border. After that it's the South West ;) Which really is just Devon because we all know Kernow classes itself as an independent country (located on the South Western peninsula of the UK)  :pint:


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:52:33
I am not sure that this is correct and I suspect that Cornwall and Devon will have something to say about that. Of course, in the absence of a formal definition, we can all say that we are right.

Cornwall regards itself as a completely separate place to England let alone West Country.... it has its own language.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 16, 2019, 13:53:29
Reg and JBZ got in before me. Damn you!  :)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 16, 2019, 14:56:06
 My father was born in the Somerset coalfield,  my grandfather worked the signal box, so we had family over there and as a kid we'd go and visit, and the old miners had a proper yokel accent.... different words the lot, yet it was only 40 odd miles from Swindon.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 16, 2019, 15:15:46
My father was born in the Somerset coalfield,  my grandfather worked the signal box, so we had family over there and as a kid we'd go and visit, and the old miners had a proper yokel accent.... different words the lot, yet it was only 40 odd miles from Swindon.
40 very odd miles, though :)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 16, 2019, 15:18:06
Shouldn't you be Bristol City or Yeovil Reg? :sherlock:


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 16, 2019, 15:24:43
40 very odd miles, though :)

The 20 miles to the Vize ws alright got strange after that mind. Trowbridge...


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, September 16, 2019, 17:36:54
I enjoyed living to the South of Newbury though. Retained a countryside element but you didn't have to go much further South before you came to B-Town. Basingstoke removes the farmer/yokel element and just becomes more London wannabe - there is an excuse though, it was a town built as a true London overspill. It always makes me wonder how many people born in Portsmouth /Southampton seemingly attain a "cockernee" element to theirs, it's the London overspill again but I am surprised that it's become increasingly more aligned with the smoke than strong accents from the west. It shows if anything the strength and influence an accent can have on certain areas. Some places are virtually impenetrable.

It’s incredible how much of the current Hampshire population stem from London overspill and previous evacuation (I’m from the loins of one), this has resulted in Spurs being the most supported team in the County other than Saints.

The tradition Hampshire accent is now a very rare thing


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 16, 2019, 17:46:58
It’s incredible how much of the current Hampshire population stem from London overspill and previous evacuation (I’m from the loins of one), this has resulted in Spurs being the most supported team in the County other than Saints.

The traditional Hampshire accent is now a very rare thing

Indeed, I lived kind of on the Hampshire/Berks/Wilts border. You could still find some traditional people. Made me laugh once, in a pub this old bumpkin boy called me a "carrot cruncher". Been called worse but he was certainly throwing huge boulders in his very small cloche.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 16, 2019, 18:47:01
Shouldn't you be Bristol City or Yeovil Reg? :sherlock:

Nah... Somerset for cricket.

Grandfather a Dorset man, moved over to Swindon, when my father was quite young....


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Monday, September 16, 2019, 21:04:20
That's proper Don Rogers territory. I would say listening to voices like Don's after 50-60 years in Swindon or John Trollope are like traditional Swindon/North Wilts accents

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Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 09:55:20
Accents can be deceptive. When I moved from Lancashire to Lennox Drive it wasn't long before I spoke with a cocky twang due to everyone else having moved from London! It was great fun walking to school each day dressed in Grammar School shorts and cap having jolly banter with bigger kids from a "floored" position. Those were the days.

You've got me intrigued now, I spent my childhood living on Lennox Drive and then eventually bought my parents house off of them there and lived there for a further 7/8 years.. 


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:20:59
Big up the Walcot posse :toocool: Lived on Frobisher drive for 10 years myself. Bought my first house there 96-06.

Last night's episode was pretty harrowing by the way. What a sick fucker that Halliwell is.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:22:51
Did you all drink in the Bulldog?  :)


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:24:05
I did


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:43:09
I did

Once in a blue moon, and the Cock Robin.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 13:48:19
Preferred the Green Baize to the Cock Robin, personally.
To think that Walcot and parks doesn't have a pub at all now.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 13:53:21
Preferred the Green Baize to the Cock Robin, personally.
To think that Walcot and parks doesn't have a pub at all now.
I have probably spent about a year of my life in total in the Green Baize club between 86 and 98!


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: ron dodgers on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 13:54:20
I still speak with a middle saxon accent


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 14:19:50
Green Baize

Had many a pint with my old man in there. It was his local.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 15:11:22
Jesters snooker club is probably the only kind of Pub left in Walcot (barley Walcot tbf).  Green Baize was Park South and is a housing estate now.

Lived on Lennox drive for 25? years myself.  Didn't drink in the Bulldog much even though it was a 2 minute walk from my house.


Title: Re: Confession
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 15:37:46
Preferred the Green Baize to the Cock Robin, personally.
To think that Walcot and parks doesn't have a pub at all now.

The Polish Social Club off Whitbourne Avenue?
More a community centre these days but still has a bar as far as I'm aware.

Used to be popular with the local Irish community years ago, so did get a bit lively in there at times.