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The best of the west will tame the least of the east. 3-0 and that rare sighting of a cup run ...

1-2, Dorris is bound to score against us

2-1 defeat with Yates scoring in front of 2,655 with 312 Town fans there.

Win on pens. Bit generous with the attendance, PV. You know we’re away, right?

3134 with 282 yeomen.

Still can’t work out if this is on iFollow or not.

League cup and FA Cup games are not on ifollow which is a shame, as Col U away midweek with a largely understrength team is a difficult one to justify going to.

Doesn't appear so, next available match is Exeter.

Sent from my Mi A1

First game of the season for me. Last year's 1-0 under PB was a new low so even a changed 11 should put up more of a fight.

3-1 Town

No i thought we were home! I will revise my figure!

Cheeres. I cant listen to it anyway tonight.

1-1 draw.

Happily bin this competition off. Our squad is thin and I really wanna get out of this fucking division.

Same here. Still early days yet but so far it seems we have a real chance this time. Would be a shame to lose out because we overstretched ourselves.

I am in two minds. A run might strengthen our January budget.

But it's a long shot, because apart from the top teams most fans don't attend in miners any more..

Damn those miners!

Win the first round.
Draw a big(ish) club in round 2, allowing Wellens to stop whining about the budget.
Sign a striker.
Go out to said big club.

Alternatively, do a Swindon and lose the first round in rather meek fashion to maintain the stauts quo.

 It's a cup game... it's been a while since we'd expect anything other than a loss, but who knows perhaps we might get a surprise and go through.

Christ Reg your a bit upbeat today expected a prediction of a 3 nil loss at best from you! Been sipping the bovril?

FFS.

numbers, numbers

Very winnable game, especially if Colchester rotate their team as well. Hopefully the players who come in will be eager to impress and their performances reflect it.

No biggie if we go out but definitely wouldn’t do any harm to carry on the winning run

Depending on team news the 5/2 price could be good value given our away record over past 12 months

Pre match taking the competition seriously in The Purple Dog.
Had a go at the local mockney patois at the bar, something along the lines of
'Greetings brother, a pint of your finest ale or whatever, isn't it'
Failed miserably.
Maybe they just don't talk proper, like what we do.

Our recent record in the LC has been even more piss poor than in the FA Cup.
Four straight first round losses, albeit two of them were very creditable efforts away at "big" clubs.

Should be a case of just going for it tonight, regardless of selection.
There's no other way.

This isn't on ifollow is it. I assume its not being streamed at all?

It'll be because foreign TV networks have purchased exclusive rights to broadcast games.

My first game...missed Saturday due to holiday.

Down in the locale for work.

I will always want us to go through and get a Prem team away and out...we will see though.

I would trade a loss for a win at Exeter, im going to that one too!

You know it's an evening kick-off right?

Hoping for a run in this one. Gives a number of summer recruits a chance to stake a claim.
Can see the manager's point in the league being priority, but win one or two in the league cup and things get interesting, in terms of profile, possible TV game or much needed gate receipts from a top prem side. Fingers crossed for progress tonight...

Would have driven from Swindon, but was down in Brighton for a gig last night so thought it would be better to cut the corner and make a day of it in sunny Colchester. Beats trundling along the M25 & A12.
All good fun. ;)

This has defeat written all over it so i’m going for another win unlikely as it is. Plus I wouldn’t be surprised at a stronger team than the blasé attitude towards this tie suggests.

Was going to surprise the wife and divert via dover, but got held up in bad traffic outside Paris this morning. Probably for the best regarding black eyes etc. 2-1 win

Luke McCormick, Zeki Fryers, Tom Broadbent, Adam May, Michael Doughty, Jerry Yates, Kaiyne Woolery, Dan Ballard, Scott Twine, Rob Hunt, Keshi Anderson. 

SUBS: 

Will Henry, Tyler Reid, Taylor Curran, Lloyd Isgrove, Toumani Diagouraga, Jermaine McGlashan, Jordan Lyden. 

Expect us to struggle in midfield as there isn't much of one.

Ok deluded.  but just had £4 on Yates to score 1st and a 4-0 win to win £1k I can dream

I would have probably gone for Lyden and May, giving Doughty the rest, but we should be a real threat on the counter!

Would have gone Toums and May myself!

Anywhere one can watch this?

Colchester

Thank you for your help.

Twine misses sitter from 6 yards

My pleasure - unfortunately, unless it's been slated for a foreign country you can't even find a dodgy stream.  A few more of the FA Cup games can be found at times.

Marc Richards scores for Cambridge

The text updates available suggest we've had three clear cut chances so far.

Has Andew Hawes gained a robotic echo for anyone else listening on ifollow? It's all gone a bit Kraftwerk.

Yeah, not very pleasant.

From the adver.

20: This will delight Town fans. Ballard plays a ball back to McCormick from defence, Wellens screams 'WHY!' to the Arsenal youngster and urges his men to look forward. 0-0.

8 vs. 3 shots on goal to us currently, only one on target for us though and none from them.

Col U bang average and very direct. Town the better side but no real chances. Ball just not falling for us in attacking positions, blocking each other's shots etc. Col U grew into the first half as it went on.  4/5 corners in a row putting us under pressure and they're a threat from set pieces. Hanging on at the end? Not quite, but we did fade.

attn 1595. Jesus

200 odd are ours I belive

yup, 207 according to the adver.

The manc wannabes are staring down the barrel of their first league cup tie.

Feels less!

Scott Twine seems to have got into a bit of a scrap.

I admire your dedication

Yates gets a red (3 game ban)
Radio thought it was twine
Bramall off for them

Great, all we bloody need. :(

Er. Fuck.

Over to your Mr. Power.

STFC Twitter says: Jerry Yates is given his marching orders despite being several yards away from the incident.

Mistaken identity?

Well that was wonderful.  3 game ban coming up!  This is where lack of cover will hit us.

sounds like it. nice one for walking Yates if so

Never a red. Never in a million years. Right in front of us. If anything their defender instigates the tussle on the floor but just book both players and move on.

Surely overturned if he was nowhere near it?

Nice of you to join us - I was hoping the 100% winning start would delay your arrival this season but I guess Reg needs some company with his negativity  :D

Correct. Joke decision.

Was it Twine or Yates involved?

Was defo Yates involved in the tangle.

Yep i'm with changy there. bit knee jerk.

So bearing in mind the FA/FL hate us. on a scale of 1-10 how likely should we be worried that yates is suspended? 1 being over turned easily.  

Never going to overturn a violent conduct red.

Assuming it was actually violent conduct in as much as a video panel may take a different view to the ref.

bugger

Was it def Yates?

It was the lino who got them sent off. This should never be 10 a side. He's ruined the game really. Twat.

Fuck off back to the facebook group

Yes

Is it an extra time and penalties tonight job if it's a draw after 90 minutes? Lose track of all these different competitions.

Another yellow for doughty

1-0, obviously (Neeeeeeeemo, I blame you)

I think I'd rather go out than go to extra time. Which is a shame as I like cups in principle, but I like the idea of getting out of L2 more.

they aren't mutually exclusive

They'll sit back and we'll equalise (maybe)

I take it we don't sound like scoring?

um, not really nmh, at least not from the radio comms.

blimey MGlashen for Broadbent.

I don't quite get why this post and the poster has been hammered by some, it's not as if what they posted isn't true..  maybe i missed something or am getting old..

Not really.

+1

Timing.

Nothing good, nothing good, moan... I'm probably grumpy after a 10 hr drive tbh

Perhaps because she's had fuck all to say over the previous two games, only to show up to make a negative comment at the first given opportunity in a game that we were not even losing at the time.

I wonder if we'll be seeing outletred as well if this game stays as it is?

I’m sure Newmarket Red will rock up shortly as well.

OK, note to self, don't post anything negative - righto

That's not what I said, is it?

oh FFS, 2-0.

Ooops

I'm out of here...

Said poster seems to generally only post negative stuff according to my, somewhat dodgy, memory

I didn't listen or watch, but it seems as though the red rattled us?

Well done Batch, Beriman just said no negative comments and u tell me about a goal for Colchester ffs

Yes and the fact that was mentioned (ahem) we lost our only striker.

But i didn't think what was said was overly negative, just true tbh, so your reasoning didn't really reflect what she said..

But I am not going to get into a forum tit for tat over what, where and who, just thought the reaction was somewhat over the top..

Carry on, nothing to see here.  I'll get back in my box.

Still time!

Er, 3-0

that's a positive, honest

Power out, squad not good enough, where’s the money gone?, we need more players, we need a manager with experience, we need a striker, etc

Me and my big mouth!

Does it count for league matches as well?

If so, maybe there'll be a silver lining in that it pushes Wellens/Power to move with some urgency another striker?

Oh well.....

If we'd been offered a start of 2 league wins and 2 cup losses I imagine most of us would have taken it.  I certainly would.

Let's hope Yates has grounds to appeal.

Costly game, that.

Might have to go one up top against Exeter if our only other option is Twine. Hopefully we get that extra body up front soon.

Yes.

This was my first thought when I saw the Red, it might force them to shit or bust with some deals that are not moving forward due to finances.  Hands might be forced somewhat.

yes and hopefully it will

We will look back on this game with a degree relief. Not so much as a wake up call but in a sense of leaving behind a trophy that could do more harm than good with Yates sending off as an example. Come the head to head league games we will come out on top. Wellens after match comments will be interesting.

Not bothered about going out.

Very bothered we're now down to Woolery and Anderson up front. Guess we'll have to look at Anderson wide left, Isgrove right and Doughty CAM unless we can bring in a striker before the weekend.

I'm pissed off we've gone out. can't remember the last big game in the cup .

Bit worrying we seemed to get rattled and capitulate, Be interesting to hear the facts of that.

How did we play up until the sending off?

Chelsea u23's

thanks Sutton ;)

Np

Couldn't care less that we're out - red for Yates as a prime example as to why.

Joking aside it probably was Chelsea when we had the capacity increased. Dont ask me what year though 2013?

It does bring into focus the gap we have upfront in the squad, that's for sure.  I can;t comment much on the performance up to the red card, but the text descriptions of Twine suggest the same issue he has had until now - he's not really a forward, nor is he a midfielder.  I don't know where he belongs in a team, so he may well be in a situation where he drops down the leagues by the end of this season.  He's an Anderson Lite type of player

Yep and Villa was 2012.

Wellens also hoping this will speed up some transfer action ,:)

Outside of the impact of the sending off on the next three games, I think we can write the last 20 minutes off.  Go a goal down in a cup we are not really focused on and took off a centre back to chase it.  They wouldn't do that in a league game.

ta Sutton/Hans.

feels longer!

It's all just part of the plan. Keep the faith.

still no international clearance for siddy. we've done the paperwork

Without having seen nor listened to the game, that is the impression I get as well.

Nah, that sounds like far too sensible a conclusion. I much prefer #PowerOut, we are all doomed to the conference

 Looked a shit draw and so it's proved....  if we are intending to get in at least another body up front, it could do with being speeded up.

Yeah disappointing we lost, but, hopefully it was just a buckled rail.

With Saturday/Tuesday/Saturday league fixtures coming up over the next week and a half I'm sure there will be a body or two arriving shortly. Budget may have to be relaxed and hope we can offload Tooms and McGlashan towards the end of the month.

stay postive  COYR

Perhaps check your facts as I did post positively on the Scunthorpe thread.  I didn’t comment on Saturday as at the exact time the game was being played, I was on a aeroplane.  Since day 1 of me posting on here approx 9 years ago, you’ve had an issue with me.  You’ve regularly singled me out for being negative or basically having a different opinion to you and chosen to conveniently ignore others with the same opinions.  Just because you’re one of the ‘original’ members of the group doesn’t mean your opinion is more valid than anyone else’s or give you the right to speak to people like a piece of shit. 

It’s no wonder so many people have stopped posting over the last few years.  If their opinion differs to yours or you don’t like what they post, you belittle them.  There’s having a friendly differing of opinion and then there’s being a bully and a complete wanker.  I imagine you’re nicer in real life than you come across as being on here, ai’d like to think so anyway.  Cheerio all, I won’t be posting again.

Surprised RW played so many of the 1st team - always a risk and his post match comments suggests he got it wrong in hindsight. Hoping we can get someone in to replace Yates for 3 games, otherwise its Woolery up top, with Doughty moved forward to attacking midfield role and May taking his place alongside Lydon.

Nice! - At least there you know who you’re actually speaking to rather than people hiding behind a keyboard and an avatar!

Very harsh red card. If anything their no 3 was the aggressor.
Couple of yellows and move on.

As for the game, much better from Broadbent. Still struggled to keep up with Norris on one occasion.
Thought Twine did ok.
They adjusted better after the sending off.
We created a few chances and their keeper Dean "you should have stayed in the burger" Gerken got motm.

Assuming nobody comes in before Saturday, then trying Isgrove through the middle would be interesting. I bet RW will think about it.

‪That couldn't have played out much worse in the end but let's not read too much (or anything) post sending off. Game deteriorated so quickly. No shape, patterns of play.

Could have won/drawn yet somehow lost by 3. Before the red, we're the better but less effective side.

Without knowing the ins and outs this place needs opinions otherwise it's not a forum. If you've got something to say then you should be able to say it.

Anyway...

“Hopefully we can get a replacement for him in during the next few days. We definitely need a couple more bodies in, and this might shift our progress a bit quicker.”

Friday statement senses are tingling again.

No reason to get too despondent over that. We played pretty well for the vast majority of the game whilst lacking that bit of bite in the final third which we knew was an issue anyway. There was no way the game should have finished 10 a side and that really killed it for us - Joke decision by the officials. 3-0 didn't even come close to reflecting how the game went overall.

If we get that elusive 20 goal striker in we will look a bloody good side. Hopefully as has been suggested it will concentrate Power's efforts in getting one in because we sure as hell need one now.

I agree 100%.

- Richie Wellens

Don't take it too hard Jo. Anxiety may sometimes get the better of you, but your comment was spot on, and didn't deserve such violent responses.

Yep, completely OTT...

Bossed the first half and fluffed our lines.

Shot when we should of taken a touch, took a touch when a first time strike would of proved better.

Sending off was pivotal ....I thought two reds when I saw it, right in front of the away fans.

Collapsed like a house of cards at the end.

Doughty and Isgrove outstanding and Anderson ran himself into the ground.

BUT we need a fucking striker! If we had one we could of won that tonight.

Agree with post above that it was a win,lose,draw game....could of gone either way.

My first game so I hope it wasn't a jinx....

Re. The sendings off - I've never had such a clear view of an incident.

The two players went to ground and were a bit tangled up. What started off as them trying to get up, developed into a bit of a wrestling match and inevitably players from both sides got drawn in and a general 'kerfuffle' ensued. I think the Col U player grabbed Yates's neck at one point but other than that, nothing actually happened - no one got punched, kicked or injured, not even close. I couldn't believe it when they both got reds.

The ref should have just said to them both "Calm down lads, don't make me ruin the game by sending you both off"...and given them a yellow card each - job done. It was totally down to the linesman IMO who was desperate for his 5 minutes of fame (not that a first round League Cup tie in front of 1500 punters is going to make you very famous)

Pathetic officiating which showed zero common sense.

Breakspear strikes again!

yup, useless twat

Not too disappointed by going out of this competition. We are pants in cups and the last time we had a decent cup game, Miles Storey was the 'hero'!

Only going by twitter updates but the first half we should have been out of sight. The way we play with the high press and workrate etc we need to put away these chances as we are almost certainly going to fade in the second half. 3-0 almost certainly flattered Colchester.

Yates' suspension is a pain in the hoop and leaves us light for Saturday's tricky fixture in Exeter.

Just watched the 1 min 45 sec 'highlights'.

- Sending off looked fair enough - Wrestling match. Not really bad, but players shouldn't have done it.
- First goal deflected away from McCormick by defender
- Second goal breakaway. Doughty didn't bother tracking back with the goalscorer.
- Great save by McCormick just before 3rd and rest of team were jogging/not trying at that point

Judge for yourself:

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11784924/colchester-3-0-swindon

Really not sure how we counter Yates' suspension. Twine is defo not the answer. Woolery through the middle and Doughty more advanced would be my guess, but means May coming back in unless Rose is back. Not too impressed with May so far, but think he may be a lot better alongside Lyden rather than instead of him. He's not a DM.

                LM
Hunt Conroy Baudry Zeki
         Lyden May
  Isgrove Doughty Keshi
              Woolery

Exactly - which equates to...a yellow card each  :nod:

Of course, nothing negative there, just a statement of the bleeding obvious.  It's a shame JTR has now caved in to the playground bullies, because her opinionn is as valuable as anyone else's. I would like her to reconsider.

Me too. It is what has made this forum utter shite recently

hth  :)

  :hmmm:

I haven't attended yet either  :)

Don't disagree, but I don't think there would be strong enough grounds for the 3 match ban to be over turned. Harsh, but it is what it is unfortunately.

Absolutely.... there's zero chance of it getting overturned...😞

I can't see it getting turned over.

Has Wellens said anything about it? He mentioned trying to get in a replacement, so I guess we can take that to mean they will not be appealing.

No, stupid though the initial decision was, it would be equally stupid to appeal, especially if bans are still increased for what are deemed to be 'frivolous' appeals. Don't know if they still do that.

I have made the mistake of playing the man rather than the ball.  Excuse me a little hypocrisy but whilst bantz and argument are one entertaining facet of this forum, I personally regret Joteddyred's potential loss to the forum.  I hope she does return and especially that anyone who has clashed with her echo that sentiment.

Above all else, we share an amazing and wonderful affliction.  It's called Stfc and this forum is a great outlet.  ; :)

Bugger me, one lousy result and we have got arguments and flouncing!

It was the cup...we played a weakened team...shit happens.

Lets move on and concentrate on keeping the run going in the league.

Massive loss with Yates ban but we need more strikers anyway so maybe it will hurry along the transfer process.

No knee jerk, apparently we played quite well up to the sending off.

Next game will be more important.

I think they're eminently giveable reds. Certainly not as controversial as you indicated. Without Yates, we've got the footy equivalent of Boycott's "What would this score look like with two more wickets down?" We actually need not one but two more strikers.

Wellens, the squad and the club have to suck it up and get on with it. Players are going to get suspended/injured throughout the season - like every other club.

Despite their start, Exeter fans think they are playing pretty shite. We’ll turn them over without Yates.

We did once win a game with him as ref, but yes, had I known then would have expected something dire.

 I do wonder if gaffers know about these things, and so tell the players not to give him an opportunity  :hmmm:

Well we haven't won a league fixture at Sid James's Park since 85/86, so overdue.  TBF mind we haven't played them that many times mostly being at a higher level, but the last couple of seasons, have been pretty dire down there, so a draw would represent progress.

In Wellens' interview on Wiltshire Sound, he says people were telling him on Monday that Brakspear always sends people off in our games. A text sent in after the game said Brakspear gave more cards than any other ref last season, so we should have been warned.

He's so far dished out 12 yellows and 3 reds this season. He's only reffed 2 matches.

According to the laws of the game I'm sure the red cards were 'giveable'. Common sense tells me otherwise.

FFS. He's out of control. Menace to the game.

There have been 7 reds from Breakspear in our last 4 games involving him... mostly our players. 

Throw in the daddy v Bury, which at the time I considered to be one of if not the most incompetent displays I'd ever seen and not a pretty sight. For those who've forgotten , Breakspear dished 10 yellows that day but missed Pope finishing JS-W's career, and ruled out an Obika goal wrongly for offside, after Glad All Over had finished playing and the player were lined up for a restart.

It's small margins but Wellens really should have got it through to the players....

Up there with Danson in the dark? That was a true horror show. How do these people keep getting the gigs?

We know all about refs and their respective behaviours in our Sunday league I'm sure they must have 'ref knowledge' in the pro game..

Last season, 44 games, 144 yellows and 12 reds! He's a busy boy.

https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=1318&season_id=151

Oh that cunt.  I remember that Bury game well.  Utterly inept bordering reffing that made me question whether he was actually taking money.  He's awful.

Yep, definitely up there.  There is a ref shortage, and they do quietly drop them. I guess Breakspear is at least consistent.

Baudrey would prob have seen red on Sat from Breakspear, as he shoves Carroll after his tackle, but Sat's man overlooked it

Froggy mentions Danson who gave a legendary incompetent display v Luton at the CG, but tbf to him from memory, he'd had a bang on the noggin at the weekend, when colliding with a player..... now he'd have been stood down with a concussion protocol.  His display was like Basil Fawlty with the Germans.

This doesn't come close to capturing it in all its glory, though the commentator fills in some of the gaps. Doesn't show Mike Newell getting sent to the stands for laughing at Danson.

https://youtu.be/zgehkQwOjag

Bbc Wilts have said that Wellens was sent off following an incident yesterday. Touchline ban coming his way then. God that ref needs to fuck off!

And the Colchester assistant manager.

Wellens was booked Saturday and was having a very heated nose to nose argument before that on Saturday as well. He has grown massively on me the last few months but he could do with calming it down a bit himself to be fair

Can't help thiink of PdC, who on receiving a touchline ban, ranted it would make no difference we'd win the league anyway  :)

Trying to look for the silver lining, with Yates out for 3 games, it could be a good chance to show we are a team strong enough to push for promotion.

It may speed up us getting that offensive reinforcement as well.

Again, silver linings maybe.   

An infamous night, purely because of the refereeing performance. Why he felt the need to book Miglioranzi still bemuses me, but that was only the tip of the iceberg with shocking decisions for goal kicks, corners, fouls etc throughout the game.

So basically without either of our centre backs, our first choice centre mid and main creative threat only coming on as a sub we still created a significant number of chances and should have been out of sight at half time. I would say that's fairly positive, another couple of players with obviously at least 1 being a striker and we should be looking good.
Let's not forget we've got Rose to come back in along Sidy assuming we get clearance soon.

what's rose situation? not heard much on the issue and length of recovery

He said he'll be back in a couple of weeks when he was on comms against Carlisle.

cool, good news, thanks

So that is now 12 yellows and 5 reds this season, still only reffing 2 games.  That surely is an eye opener for the refs association.

RW now charged by FA..

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/wellens-charged-by-the-fa/

At half-time? I'd understand at the end of the game, but what happened in the first half to light the touchpaper?

I was thinking that as well. I presumed it was at the end of the game pre-empted by the Yates red card.

There didn't appear to be anything untoward disciplinary wise in the first half was there?

I dont understand this, if this happened at half time why was he allowed in the dugout second half?

Anyway, i hope it was Sherwood-esque

‘YOU FAACKIN MUG!’

Brakespear is a shocking ref - as the various posts highlighting his “cards record” indicate. My reading is he likes to be the “star of the show” rather than (as the best refs invariably are) hardly noticed during the game.
I’m not certain he is biased against us, despite the number of cards we have accrued in his games (although it has felt like that a couple of times). Don’t forget that we have had some disciplinary issues over the past few seasons, picking up a lot of cards and suspensions.