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Title: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Sunday, February 10, 2019, 22:24:17
Just sold my car to replace it with an electric bike.
Any tips/recommendations ??


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: 4D on Sunday, February 10, 2019, 23:29:07
Go buy another car?  :)


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: 4D on Sunday, February 10, 2019, 23:31:12
I guess you could drive around the scilly Isles in 5 minutes. What tips/recommendations are you after, which bike to get? Doesn't Reg have an electric bike?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 11, 2019, 09:42:56
 Fuzzy is the TEF electric bike person.... when  I asked.

 
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Go for something with the Shimano Steps system or the Bosch system. Good motor and battery reliability.

The Steps has 3 power settings whereas the Bosch has 4. Shimano powers application is smooth and Bosch punches in a bit more aggressively.

Both systems could give 60 to 70 kilometres of assistance if used wisely. The other good thing about these systems is that, as the motor replaces the bottom bracket, they carry the weight very well. Turning pedals with the power off doesn't feel like you are lugging a big motor.

PM me if you want more info.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 10:48:24
I presume you want a road or hybrid style bike?

I've got an e-mtb with a Shimano steps motor, excellent motor and not overly noisy, turns what would be a two hour ride into a four or five hour one.

The quietest motors are the Brose ones, as used by Specialized.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Monday, February 11, 2019, 12:00:47
Just wanted a hybrid bike.
We only have about 7 miles of road but it's a tad hilly for someone of my advanced years and I only really need to get to the golf course or to some quiet beach in the summer !


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 12:10:06
Budget?


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Monday, February 11, 2019, 12:40:20
About £2k gulp  :( :(


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 12:51:38
You'll be able to get something decent for that.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Haibike-sDuro-Cross-4-0-2018-Electric-Hybrid-Bike_116301.htm


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: pauld on Monday, February 11, 2019, 13:36:25
You could get a car for that!


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 14:17:18
A car costs about £1k a year to keep on the road, without fuel.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: 4D on Monday, February 11, 2019, 14:30:27
A car costs about £1k a year to keep on the road, without fuel.

Mine doesn't.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 14:38:33
I said about, obviously depends what it is and whether you bother to service it etc...


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: 4D on Monday, February 11, 2019, 14:42:53
Ah, gotcha. What about an electric car? I wonder if you can still get a Sinclair C5.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 14:46:31
Ah, gotcha. What about an electric car? I wonder if you can still get a Sinclair C5.

Think I'd rather walk!


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Monday, February 11, 2019, 20:53:53
It's a bit odd here, given the 7 miles of road - fuel is around £1.60 a litre and cars never get warmed up, so fuel consumption is very high, mega salt laden atmostphere and other drivers keen to rearrange your vehicles bodywork !!
I could use a taxi or walk but my experience of electric bikes was that they were fun and it would give me a bit of exercise.
My budget is based on the price I got for my car & the fact that even with the low monthly mileage the car was costing circa £75/100 a month to run.
I would have a golf buggy but I have nowhere to charge it and amazingly they are mega expensive to buy for road use !

Thanks STFCBIKER I will have a look at that.



Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Monday, February 11, 2019, 21:05:08
No problem

If you don't mind something a bit more like a mtb then look at a Giant Fathom E+ 3, both that and the previous one I linked have Yamaha motors, albeit different versions.

The Specialized Turbo Vado is supposed to be a good hybrid bike but maybe slightly above your budget.

I have a Focus Jam2 full suspension so I'd recommend the hard tail version of that as well, although again possibly above your budget.

I did a lot of research before I bought mine, as with most things there's far too much choice!


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 09:37:00
You'll be able to get something decent for that.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Haibike-sDuro-Cross-4-0-2018-Electric-Hybrid-Bike_116301.htm

As an aside to the electric element, that's a shit fork on there for that kind of money.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 17:26:02
As an aside to the electric element, that's a shit fork on there for that kind of money.

It's a cross/hybrid bike so I guess the suspension isn't of primary concern.

I've got Fox front and rear on mine but then it cost £3,200...


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 17:47:04
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/eu/zero-ds

0-60 in 3.9 seconds.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 17:56:03
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/eu/zero-ds

0-60 in 3.9 seconds.

I've seen some reviews of that, supposed to be very good. Can't beat a Triumph triple though...

Probably not what the OP had in mind though  ;)


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 18:06:45
Can't beat a Triumph triple though...

 :love:

(I have a Street Triple)


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 18:29:24
:love:

(I have a Street Triple)

Not jealous at all...


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 18:54:30
Of course, if scillyred wants something a bit different there's always a Mugen.

They're quite handy on small island circuits :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gD0y-bZStk


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 18:57:03
Hi Mr Jealous  :)

Any views on

 Scott sub Active eRide 2019 Electric Crossbar Hybrid or
 Kalkhoff Endeavour I.B Move 500w 2019 Hybrid

I feel a sudden attack of nerdiness  :(
Why do they have such stupid names - almost as bad as Forest Green Rovers !


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: scillyred on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 19:00:54
Of course, if scillyred wants something a bit different there's always a Mugen.

They're quite handy on small island circuits :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gD0y-bZStk

Just a bit of background - there are some quite beefy bikes on the island !!

Scilly has the highest proportion of motorbikes in the country.

Data released by the DVLA show that 9.5% of the vehicles on our islands’ roads in 2013 were motorbikes.

The second highest was the inner London borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, with 8.7% ownership of bikes.

That statistic has surprised keen biker and regular Buntzig Motorbike Club member Alan Hartwell.

Alan says they regularly get 20 to 25 bikes “coming out of the woodwork” for the annual club barbeques, organised by James Sherris. But he adds that Scilly isn’t an ideal biking venue.

He thinks many of them are used for commuting to work.

“It’s really all you need here and a small motorbike will often do the job better than a car,” says Alan.

He says if you’re a bike enthusiast, there’s not a lot of road on St Mary’s to enjoy riding but what we have is fun anyway.

Late last year, Alan undertook a 34-hour, non-stop bike ride to Belgium on a 32-year-old Honda moped. He raised over £500 for the Treliske Hospital Children’s Ward.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 19:35:47
Hello  :) it might be more envy than jealousy  ;)

I don't know much about the Kalkhoff brand to be honest, although being German I'd imagine they're pretty good, Scott are decent as far as I know. They both use a Bosch motor although the one in the Kalkhoff has a but more torque and a higher capacity battery. The Scott sub active has 40Nm, sub cross 50Nm and the Kalkhoff has 63Nm. (I think)

I guess it depends on how fit you are and how hilly it is, the ones mentioned all give between 250 and 275% assistance in highest mode.

If you want a lot of power/torque then look at something like the Giant Explore E+ 2 2019 which has 80Nm and 350% assistance.


Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: STFCBIKER on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 19:38:36
Yes the names are a bit silly, each brand has so many different versions which doesn't help.