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Right! As I'm the only one who appears to be up / sober at this time. I'll get this going.  With a strong vocal backing, Woking will be up for it. However, I think this is ours, 2-1 and in the draw for the next round at home against Bristol City. That should get the juices flowing!

The last of Wellens’ free hits.....impossible to call.

we'll fuck them up. 2-1 :)

A very strung 1-0.
Twine to score and we can cut the cord holding us back from recent F.A Cup 3rd Round frivolity. Job done.

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On the beers, Bamboo?

I thought you would've "cottoned" on to my puns Chang. No beers for me tonight. 24 is a factor of 7704 (subsequently 856 is too). We all know who wears 24?

 Don't know who else is playing later, but so far no non league team has prevailed v a league team... you'd expect there to at least be one or two. Therefore no reason why it shouldn't be us.  

I'm more confident than I was a week ago.
2-0

Not sober enough to put it in the right section  :)

Is this match televised?

Playing the Cardinals on a Sunday must make us massive underdogs. :hmmm:

Chesterfield v Grimsby
Slough v Gillingham
Tranmere v Southport
Guiseley v Fleetwood tomorrow.

Take your pick.

Can’t really see anything other than a Town win here.

Attendance 4352, 2-0, 896 Wokes, Spurs away in the 3rd round

This won't be easy so I think it's going to be a scrappy 3-2 win. Then man city in the third round were we turn over peps boys. :pint:

Of course he won’t say outright that we’ll lose, or draw - he never does. He’ll just hint that we might not win. A weekly occurrence.

I’ll also go with a 2-1 win, a fairly tough game with a bit of a scare, but safely through.

Straight in the pub after some spiritual uplift for a cuppa and read of the newspaper.
Couple of pints then some proper football.
Beats mouldering in front of the box watching Derby Day on Sky.

Important game today.
I'd go with strongest selection possible apart from 'resting' Taylor.
So Smith in, plus Bayo for Pryce.

A fair few coming up from leafy suburbia so should be a good atmosphere.

It will definitely be a major shock if we do manage to beat Woking - right up there with Hereford v Newcastle and Sutton v Coventry.

I'm going to stick my neck out though and say 2-0 to us. Anderson, Doughty pen.

Dream the impossible dream  8)

Woking are in great form so I'm hoping they will bring an over-confidence akin to Dartford last season.

1-1 draw, then comfortable 2-0 win in the replay.

Does this end in winning a dustbin?

What time's kick-off?
Is it on Ifollow?
Will there be a stream?
Will the BBC be able to broadcast over the internet?
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

African or European?

An African or European swallow?  :)

I reckon Chesterfield v Grimsby has to be the best shout of that lot.... although Spireites haven't won a game for ages, they are hard to beat.  Tranmere v Southport is an interesting one, goes back to the formation of Div 3 N in 1921... Tranny usually prevail.

Loads of Woking in the Merlin.

Reckon 2.1 town. Decent draw away be good

Haha! They don't make 'em like that any more (thank fuck)  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1aKzJgGHFo

Dunne and McCourt start. Both young ‘uns’ retain their places up front. McCormick in for Vigs

Shock, horror. Vigs fails to impress another manager.

Cup swap. Usual sort of thing.

Bit of a leap? It's quite normal for a manager to give the 2nd goalie some game time in cup competitions.

No Dusty Bin for you Batch!

Less than half an hour before KO (I'm guessing some have forgotten or gone Christmas shopping...) and only three pages deep. This on the the form of back to back wins. I guess £30 worth of Primark apparel is more attractive than £30 on the Town?  :hmmm:

Still going for 1-0

Or only cup competition we are left in so only opportunity for game time. But why let logic get in the way hey?

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1069214526090948608 (https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1069214526090948608)

Lovely GIF...text is so easily viewable.  :doh:

Starting XI:

               McCormick

      Lancashire Woolfenden
Knoyle                           Iandolo

                 Dunne
McCourt                         Alzate

                 Doughty

          Twine         Pryce

Benchers:
Vigouroux
Nelson
Smith
Adebayo
McGlashan
Anderson
Taylor

COYR

Why can't we just watch the screens on final score.Who wants to watch those cunts talking bollocks?

As expected they are pretty playing 11 men behind the ball, a couple of half chances but nothing serious.

soapy tit wank

Here’s hoping we can pull this back

Would be Jake Hyde as well.

Normal service is resumed.

Oh dear. Any way back from this?

Back to  being shit then. At least I chose to watch kids footy instead.

Not over yet I suppose.

2 shots on target in 72 mins suggests not, looks like Woking have done their homework

We've had 14 corners too, do we have anyone who can head the ball?

Embarassing.

Keep creating the headlines lads

Swindon finally starting to create chances.  Woking good value for their lead. Let’s hope for a replay which will probably be on tv.

Sad thing is it's not really a shock defeat.

Their fans chanting “football league your having a laugh”.

68% possession so far, 15 corners, 6 shots on target, 0 offsides. Glaringly obvious what the problem is.

You sure it's not ours?

Yes Primark defo more attractive 😂

Fuck off Town.
Wankers.

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"This is why the FA Cup is the best cup competition in the world" somebody just said
Oh do fcuk off, lower league teams winning can happen in any cup competition in the world

They had one chance and scored, we were too slow and ponderous which starts at the back as Lancashire and McCormick take an age to do anything.
Pryce was ineffective as was Twine, we need players in January.

Easy to say so in hindsight.

Desperate for someone to post that we've scored!

Neither Woking or us are gonna win it, or get past the next round. I'm more disappointed that we are so predictably crap.

Spineless, gutless, witless and dickless.  

We must hold the record for defeats to non league teams in the FA Cup

Other than the potential good day out at a big club, the cash we could have got in could have been useful for January's window.

We could have got another L2 club of course, but that it a massive opportunity lost and its pissed me off big time.

Same shit, different day.
Talking of shit, why are we so shit at taking corners ?

Its odd. Tuesday we looked really threatening from corners.
Other than that, hit first man/biggest defenders head/over everyone is the norm.

 So it was us.... no real surprise, the game v York showed there isn't much difference between us and an average Conference N side.  Woking are going well so probably a bit above York standard.

 One positive, is that we should keep the Saturday fixture v Macc. 

 

Remind me why that's a positive?

load of bollocks, didn't deserve fuck all from it, you know we've hit rock bottom when the Woking fans started to sing "football league your having a laugh" :suicide:

Wellens looking a worse bet than Brown now. Probably cheaper for Power though. In saying that, we’ve just thrown away the chance of making a bit of money in the 3rd round.

100% losing record at Moss Rose, if we are to change that, and Macc have come into a bit of form and there's the unknown of Sol Campbell, you'd think a Sat game would be a better than a midweek rearranged game.

It's infuriating.

There's been a lot worse at home this season.
Wasn't keen on the starting XI.
Too much of a stroll in the first half.
Learn and move on.

I blame Reg.
Once pointed out, then it was always going to be us.  :cry:

Those of you who were relying on this match to be the impetus for our league season... :soapy tit wank:

It's the F.A Cup. In the last 20 years, we've only gone beyond the 2nd Round five times. The last being 2012 when Paolo Di Canio's squad went on to beat Wigan in the 3rd Round, then losing to Leicester in the 4th.

Oh they were great times but that really was a one off in recent history. We'll just have to wait until next year. What is it about non-league teams and us in the F.A Cup?

Anyway, those calling for Power's head and losing their shit (not necessarily on here)...go back to your pint of pissy lager. Always the same after a match. Seen kids behave more adult like than some of these so called mature men in their 40s & 50s. The only shambles here is to look at yourself.

As for Town going out in Round Two? Did you really expect anything else?  :pint:

Too slow going forwards and too predictable. Looked okay at times but really lacked cutting edge and pacy, decisive play hence the lack of end product. Unfortunately Pryce didn’t do a lot but probably due to lack of service. Very disappointing to go out to a non league side. Woking scored a good goal and defended well.

Against a Conference South side? Yes. That's a fucking disgrace

It's a wasted opportunity but I'm really not that fussed. Just a bit disappointed. It's the cup. It happens and isn't necessarily something to be concerned about.

Here's hoping for a 3rd straight league win on Saturday.

try actually  sitting through that shit in the CG and you would be fussed & very disappointed, just saying

Never really looked like winning
Meh

Would make not the slightest bit of difference.

Wellends picked the wrong team, then moaned about us being to slow coming out of the back. He needs to watch a game where Olly Lancashire plays, he's aways bloody slow. Our next game is must win as I feel this team has no backbone, the sooner we're safe the better I'll sleep at night.
 

Oh and hats off to Matt Taylor for arguably the worst 10 minute substitute appearance I've ever seen.

Wellens’ team selection proved the focus is on the fight to retain our FL status...there is nothing wrong with that and it’s a sensible approach. Today was always going to be difficult and we didn’t disgrace ourselves - Woking are flying in the league and there’s little between the sides.

On to Newport.

He's no James Collins for sure!

Not sure we could afford Alzate and Doughty either on the wing or in the centre in the first half. Then when we needed urgency in the second they had less impact.

When we were on top in the first half I would've liked a lot more first time crosses. We seemed Williams-esque in trying to over engineer every ball into the box.

Ref was comically bad but seemed to be shit for both teams.

Cannot disagree with what has been written before.  No energy all over the pitch, looked like if we turn up we win - garbage.  Cannot believe he just left Pryce up top by himself against two man mountains.  They came, they roughed the game up a bit and they conquered.  Hope Wellens said we will talk it over at training at 8 am tomorrow morning, double session needed.

Newport is going to be very difficult... I watched a bit of their game v Wrexham last night... the epitome of a Div 4 side, couple of lumps up top and at the back, don't try to play much football, we couldn't cope with them last season when we had a better side.

Wellens has done well so far to get us back onto the mid table perch, with a nice buffer to the drop zone.  If there is any mileage in looking up the table, then a win on Saturday would show that.

We have too many players where it's hard to actually work out what their position is: Iandolo, Alzate, McCourt, Anderson and even Doughty to be honest. Not sure Price is an actual striker either.
We're suffering from Brown's recruitment still, too many square pegs in round holes.

Also I'd still have Vigs in goal, McCormick was very poor with what he did have to do today.

I fancied the Newport game, but I think that's me done for the season.

I think you should take a look at Tails.... his work shows promise that he's understanding what being a Town fan is about.

Always gut-wrenching to lose to non-league.  Our record over the last 10 years or so is shocking.

As already said, the 3rd round revenue would have been useful.

Too bad.  Hopefully a win against Newport will move us on (upwards).

I was expecting to see a similar performance as the one on Tuesday night until I saw the team and it looked unbalanced and wondered why there were the outfield changes. Smacks of Mr Wellens still being a bit naive to play around with a formation that worked quite well in the previous game and certainly did not work too well against Woking. The team for Newport will tell what he has learnt from this game.

Wellens all but said on the radio the Nelson will be back in for Lancashire, who again I thought was poor. Anderson was left out as he pulled up in training yesterday.
I really wish Woolery and Toumani were fit, I think they would slot into this team perfectly with the way Wellens wants to play.

I don't think I've seen a slower professional footballer than Lancashire is now, in the second half it was painful watching him run, I think he's pretty much done now. Translates into his general play as everything he does is slow and it ends up slowing the whole team down.

We need to bin Lancashire off as soon as possible. If he cannot cope with players two divisions below the he has no place in a FL side

It took us 70 years from 1906 to 1976 to lose 4 games to non league clubs... the last 4 have come in 6 years.

That must be the improvement and progress Mr Power was eluding to

Well that was shit.

Just when we start seeing light at the end of the tunnel..

We tried to play more football than working for sure but when you are up against a drilled physical side with a ref who has left his cards in the dressing room, you have to step up and match them at least physically....we didn't do that and that disappointed me the most today.

I would of nailed at least one of those centre backs and got in their faces.

Out muscled.

Another shit sandwich for the Town fans to savour.

TBF to Power the decline had set in before his time... it's just accelerated on his watch.  So it took us 92 years to lose 6 games to non leaguers.  The next 6 has taken 20 years.

Still games not changed much in 20 years.

Relatively speaking it hasn't... the Conference got an extra promotion slot, from the previous 1. You could argue that referees dishing cards for offences which they wouldn't previously , would be a change, but in terms of us v non leaguers, it ought to mean you can't be kicked off the park by the part timers.

I really try not to look at posts or post myself in the aftermath of defeats but iv recovered a bit.

It was frustrating today and typical of so many home performances.

The lack of striker options is killing us at the moment. we tried so many routes to goal today. long ball, crosses, triangles etc but nothing worked.

We should have won based on chances. it's far easier to be the team that sits back and frustrates than to be the one than dictates play and try and get through. goals change this and the longer it went the more the players look lost.

fair play to Woking. they sat in and worked hard. it's the cup. these things happen every year and what makes it great for lots of teams. just wish it would happen a bit less often to us.

January can't come any quicker. (or the return of woolery, Richards up top as different options)

I was astounded by the attendance today. this could have been a route to a massive 3rd round game- bet we would have found some fans then. and any without tickets would be coming out with the i used to be a season ticket holder for 30 years.

one positive. James Dunn has been fantastic this season and again today. needed another 10 of him though

Today showed just how bad Browns recruitment was in the summer, we have a side with no natural width and no forwards. Can see a big transfer window ahead, with at least 4 or 5 shipping out elsewhere and hopefully the same again coming in.
Get it right and we should be in or around the play offs come May.

I haven't read that we got kicked of the park. However the standard gap between Div 4 and NL has narrowed, teams are more organised and I'd say more experienced than our youthful lineup.

because we weren't. we had the vast majority of the ball bar 15 mins of 2nd half when they scored. the rest of the time we were trying to find a way through.

we could and should have scored. but after a defeat could and should are always brought up

That's my point, in theory back in the day, a Wimbledon as non league could take FA Cup wins by playing anti football, get themselves into the FL and eventually win the FA Cup. Now much less of an option, therefore what should be our better players, ought to have the advantage.

You're right though there isn't much difference between non league and Div 4, which is why we shouldn't think there's any reason why we can't end up there. Certainly the set up and quality of players we have isn't much better, than Conference S.

Woking played Chippenham at Hardenhuish about a month ago and drew 2-2..... it would be interesting if the old Wilts Shield was played for still... on that evidence, it wouldn't be a given that we'd see off Chippy atm.

You're right that it will have to be one in and one out, but it isn't always easy to move on under performers. Somebody has to want them.

As I pointed out the other day, all of Power's window dealings have led to a reduced trawl of points post Jan, relative to previous, except a slight increase in points per game when Luke took over, who said he didn't want new bodies in the window preferring to work with tight squad.

I suppose it's possible that the reduced budget Power provided Brown with, contained the possibility of augmentation in January, depending on where we are.

Fair play to Woking. Most of their players will have to get up for work in the morning.
Ours will bimble onto the training ground . . . where ever the freck that is.

I refer to my previous post about trying not to read posts after a defeat.

Muppets like you. be back on next Saturday where we all go again.

So let me see if I've got this right.... the debate seemed to be that in the last recent years the evidence suggests that the gap between Div 4 and non league, has closed.  This would account for it taking 92 years for us to lose 6 games to non leaguers, then only 20 years to lose the next 6 with a recent acceleration of 4 in 6 years.

The logic of this suggests to me that if this is true it tells us that it is caused by a a closing of the gap between quality of player and structures at the clubs in question.... therefore as stated the quality of set up and player currently at STFC isn't much better than Conference S. Much, being the operative word. We're certainly closer to that level than we are to say a Championship set up.

If you disagree why not try arguing the case rather than resort to petty abuse.

Are you sure Woking are not full time, I believe York were and several of the Conference S and N are reputed to be as well?  Just asking as i dont know!

York were full timers, but I think Woking are currently part time.

Train 3 times a week according to the bbc earlier.

Oh do please shut up!!

Not far off what we do to be be fair.

Agree with this. Formation puzzling and little options up front; Adebayo didn't exactly exert himself when he came on. Two defensive midfielders in McCourt and Dunne at home set the tone, although the latter did impress. Lost opportunity as a plum R3 draw could have provided much needed funds for attacking ammunition, but used to this as a Town fan - no doubt further drama just around the corner.

To quote Reg - if you disagree why not try arguing the case...

Easy to argue.

We are not in a relegation battle.

If we get fewer points after Christmas than before we will be.

Actually, that's unfair. I found that fact quite interesting.

Chang the record

There’s one man who can claim a team who are 4 points off playoffs, 11 off relegation are in a battle to preserve their FL status.

He will step up to the plate, don’t worry

What Chang said, was that the selection, which puzzled a number of posters, was taken with the league in mind, and Wellens was probably right on that, given our drop to 18th in the table, and the need to maintain the recent improvement, back up to comfortable mid-table.

But the recent improvement is hardly built upon when you get dicked at home by a non league club.

Unless that game highlighted to Wellens the folly of trying to play a certain way with even just a couple of players that are not suited to it.

Newport on Saturday should be a gauge - they’ve conceded 32 goals and despite being 4th have a negative goal difference.

Well yeah.

We stop picking up points and we could get dragged in.
Keep winning games and we could find ourselves in a promotion race.

Kinda how the league table works really.

The first line was supposed to be a pessimistic Reg line. Obviously I'm not Reg'ing right.

The recent improvement could be no more than a bit of new manager bounce.... the trick is to ensure it's more than that and is on solid foundations. Certainly losing at home to Woking suggests there's an awful lot of work to do before we can be considered a reliable winning machine.  A draw v Newport wouldn't be the worst of results, as with Grimsby and Numb to come, that's 3 sides who we got nil point from last season with a stronger side.

I've heard a number of people describe it as us getting dicked.  As one of the unfortunates in attendance, Yes we were shit and lost but we completely dominated the game but were devoid of creativity in the final third which had been our problem all season. We weren't 'dicked' like we were against Histon, Macclesfield, Eastleigh etc in previous seasons.

The result stemmed from the fact that essentially we couldn't break down a flat back 9. A lot of hyperbole as is the norm when we lose, but if it was a league game we'd be screaming that we were robbed. Fair play to Woking though, they did their job and you could see their plan was to smash and grab. Great support too, even if they were oddly irked by the fact their persistent fouling was being punished.

We should've won. We didn't in a competition we've traditionally (recently at least) been terrible in. It's not the end of the world.

Reward for reaching round three would've been 27k,  then 65k had we reached round 4, some chance !!.
Not exactly amounts that would have changed our spending habit in January,  but every little helps as 'the old lady said'.  :badmood: :badmood:

But the gate receipts from a trip to Old Trafford might have.
Statistically only slightly less likely this morning than it was yesterday, but you get the point.

But it would all just disappear into Powers back pocket anyway
(C) christ knows how many posters over and over again!

oh yeah,. I forgot

As I mentioned before, the (potential) loss of a big draw is a kick in the teeth, but I'm really quite meh about the result itself. The cup does this. It doesn't necessarily mean a thing where the league's concerned.

We lost to Non-league clubs when we were 'good' at home to Macclesfield (and away for that matter) and got dicked at Cheltenham yet still got to the league 1 play-off final, shit happens in the cup. I'm over it.

Last season Accy got knocked out by Guiseley... OK it was on pens after a couple of draws, but they were in a poor run at the time, only one win in Nov, up to 30th December.  We should have played them during that trot, but the weather intervened so we played it when they were in prime form... they won something like 12 in 13, that's what gets you auto.

So it is possible to overcome a poor cup result and still do well

We responded to getting pumped at Cheltenham 5-0 by beating Bristol City at home, and then no one gave a shit about it anymore.

The thing that irks me the most is that some fans genuinely seem happy when we lose as it gives them a chance to rub their hands and be like "yep, see. Power bad". I just don't get it.

I don't think there are any Town fans who are happy about losing to Woking. Some like Flasher :shrug: and move on, others note that we don't appear to be as good as what we once were and look for reasons.

No, Tails is definitely right. There is an element that revel in defeat, you only need to look a Facebook to realise that.

Absolutely right. One off games. Disappointment at potential revenue loss and a day out for us fans are the absolutes.

Our support is somewhat fragile right now though. Bit unfair to expect Wellens to pick up a shitty stick and turn it into roses. But I feel a performance is needed Saturday to show the blip was the loss and not the two previous wins.

I would have liked to have seen an unchanged team to perhaps keep a bit of momentum going, when I saw Doughty was 1 of a front 3 I did wonder, how well he done on Tues running the game in the middle, to move him into a wide forward position that is probably a little alien to him, that didn't help, then to put in Dunne who has only trained for 2 days over the past 3 weeks.

I hope things are better for Newport on Sat, it could be a crucial game to either get a bit of momentum going into crimbo period or kill confidence either further and struggle over crimbo

Wellens may have over-rotated to get a look at more players. I'm sure we'll be back to Twine, Adebayo, Keshi up top on Saturday, and Dunne, Doughty and Alzate in the middle. Sid back in too.

I'd rather we won, but don't really care if we get a result Saturday and Wellens got another 90 mins to learn from this bunch of players.

It's a bit like those International qualification games where you meet a team intent on just sitting in.  Do you change the formation knowing you'll have all the ball but risk upsetting the long term benefits of having a settled approach? or do you treat them with less respect (as they deserve) and just go for it?  Teams get caught between the two regularly.

Given our recent issues have, in my opinion, been caused by constant chopping and changing of formations/style/set-up, then I can see why a Manager would, given recent improvement, decide to keep the formation as is.  Changing it may win that game but put us in a worse position against an opposition more likely to challenge us.  Keeping it the same risked us not taking the full initiative and being caught with our pants down at some point, which seems to be how it played out.

Cups are a bit odd, usually.  Probably due to that fact and that a lower level team can exert all their effort into the one game with just cause.  It's what makes it fun to watch, when it's not you on the wrong end.  Fortunately the FA Cup is not on iFollow, so it is like it never happened for me!

Oh, and for balance, I think Wellens made the right choice - keep the same formation, freshen some of the legs and focus on our Promotion challenge.

Excellent long highlights on the Woking site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqMsOlaXUYc

From this, it looked like a decent, hotly-contested cup-tie and we were a little unlucky not to see one of our efforts go in. Dunne seemed to be in the thick of things. Not as bad as the comments led me to believe.

We were much better than Woking.

We were also masters of our own demise.

We just seem to lack a bit of guile, get the ball in very interesting positions, but its always fairly obvious when its going to end up, playing two young forwards against a non-league back 9 was never going to be easy.

Generally watching the highlights there were more positives than negatives and at least they appeared to be trying!

There were some positives. It's never as black as white as "we lost - everything is shit".

Dunne did well, which considering the shit he's been through is very promising. Iandolo worked his balls off and IMO, we seemed to lose something when he went off. I thought McCourt played well too, and again we got worse after he was subbed.

Taylor's 10 minute cameo was embarrassing however. Anderson also offered very little when he came on

Any sign of Woolery or Tooms coming back any time soon?

Toumani said at Tuesday nights game that he was out until January...

So what people are saying generally is that people are foolish to be badly pissed off at losing at home to a below average non league team.....again.
Sorry but I feel humiliated angry and embarrassed

Woking reckon fielding a weakened side gave them extra motivation....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46430030

He probably didn't realise that we don't have a regular strong side as such.... and leaving out our best player Matty Taylor, becasue of his age is fair enough for the busy period ahead.

Thank you.

no that's the right feeling.

It's shit, but we've failed to get the ball in the net so often this season it's not a massive surprise.

got to look for some positives that we will be ok should fluke finding a half decent striker come January

My general opinion is...

Yeah, be annoyed. I was annoyed and I had an hour drive home. But.. some perspective please, you bunch of drama queens! :)

Honestly some of the reaction is way OTT. I saw one dude on Twatter just now who literally the other day was like "Great football, what a night" after Stevenage and has now posted "IM NEVER GOING AGAIN SHOWER OF SHIT".

My teenage nieces have more stable emotions FFS.

Genuine question though buddy. What perspective is there to be taken. We are at our lowest position that the majority of our fan base can ever remember and getting beaten by non league teams at home after something like 1 win at home in 7 games. It is fucking woeful

I think you have to go into it with an open mind that new boss (and soon a transfer window) may see some improvement.

I can understand it if you don't want to go though. it has been woeful.

I can't believe we are somehow in touch with the playoff places. shithouse league of mediocrity

2 wins on the bounce under the new guy (in the league), something we haven't done in bloody ages. As for the Woking game.. let's not fuck about. We dominated the game and Woking shithoused us big time. We didn't play a full strength team and as I said before, we struggled to break down a flat back 9. It wasn't great, not pretending it is, but it's not exactly new. Even under Di Canio we lost at home to a side 2 leagues below us.

I think Wellens will do a good job here, seems to like play a decent way and for me he is saying the right things (identifying where we are weak, his general analysis of games). I just hope he's backed.

Well said Tails....I’d further that by pointing out we should be grateful we have a financially secure club - just look at some of the names who have fallen out of the league in recent years. Maintaining a FL club is not something to take for granted.

Wellens adds his name to an in most cases illustious list....

Bert Head, Danny Williams, Lou Macari, Steve McMahon, Danny Wilson and PdC.  The not so illustrious includes Luke and Malpas. Let's hope Wellens is more the former than the latter.

Crapregchang is more boring than real Reg.

I think we'll make the playoffs, and I don't usually do predictions.

There, I said it.

Taylor isn't close to being our best player, as I'm sure you're aware.

On that basis, Wellens has joined a list comprising Sir Alex Ferguson, Zinedine Zidane, Herbert Chapman, Don Revie, Jose Mourinho and so on.  Difference being that they - and the illustrious Danny Williams (not Luke) won some cup competitions.  PDC and Lou at least were also on the end of some wins in cup shocks - not exclusively losses.

Exactly this. Yeah, I'm sure we all get pissed off at a loss. We should. Totally losing your shit...nope. The striking thing is, this is mostly coming from blokes that are 40+ with receding hairlines bigger than my future ever could be.

What came through from that video, as from most games I've viewed this season, is that we make scoring so much harder for ourselves by the way we play it all round the box before anyone tries a shot, so by the time someone decides to shoot, the oppo's always had time to get everyone back crowding their box. We'll only start scoring more if we catch them out of position by running at the defence and delivering earlier balls in (viz Stevenage).

Someone once said that what sets the top level of any sport apart from the rest is speed. Not sure I see it for darts or curling, but it's true enough for footy.

I am sure Woking did use this to motivate them, and I am also sure that Wellens Expected the side he put out to perform better and get a result nonetheless.  I see the point of keeping the formation the same - he probably created more risk on that one game but is expecting that debt to be paid in the league games coming up.  I'd happily forego an FA Cup 3rd round exit for a promotion tilt.  That's not in anyway saying it's fine to lose to Woking.  I am pretty sure Wellens isn't going around the training ground letting everyone know everything was just dandy with the performance.

I can't speak for the game yesterday and precisely why it was different, but the previous league game there was much more emphasis on getting it wide, getting behind and delivering crosses.  I imagine the way Woking played is not what we will face in most games for the remainder of the season.  Even the bad teams in our league won't shut up shop completely and even if they did, they don't come with that one off chance of making a name for yourself never say die attitude yet get in these games.  If you look back in hindsight, maybe you change your formation, add more attacking players etc.  Assume you'll have all the ball and completely change things.

You can moan at the 'gammons', the 'key board warriors' and the 'fickle' all you want. When it starts to affect our hardcore standing it becomes a problem. And it is starting to.

Not sure moaning at people moaning is going to solve anything, much like the moaning itself won't.

I'm not moaning at them Batch. I'm just pointing out how pathetic the behaviour is of some. Some who should be old enough to control themselves. The perspective being that our own lives/choices etc have far more impact on us than the Town making the 3rd Rnd of the F.A Cup. End of the day, although it is part of our life all we're doing is paying for an entertainment service. Not many will like that but in essence it has no direct impact on our lives. We shake it off and carry on.

Do you know what I missed SAF, ZZ, Revie and Jose losing to non league teams..... not sure about Herb, I wasn't around in the 30's.

I missed Stevenage but went to the cup. but this was exactly how we played but it didn't work. two big cbs Pryce looked lost with little support. twine made some good runs but couldn't get on the end.

we had something like 13 corners but don't think we had a header on target from them. 2nd balls from corners we had quite a few chances. their keeper made one fantastic save it particular to keep out mccourt which BBC left out of highlights for some reason

In my opinion he is.... perhaps most influential might be a better description, but amounts to the same thing.

It's why he was voted PotY by Town fans last season and why he's only missed the one  league game this term due to suspension, the highest appearance number of any Town player

62 years old 52 years a fan I'm not going to be told by any whippersnapper that I'm being pathetic for being embarrassed and angry.Its not "losing your shit" and anyway I don't think anyone on here is guilty of that.

It's a message board you say what you want.

Can we just thank Josh Casey for making the defeat sound less worse than it was.

You know I'm going to have to verify that with Exiled Bob?  ;)

If you'd read my previous reply on here, I mentioned it wasn't necessarily people on here "losing their shit" or behaving like children. The very fact you're getting a little angry about it only shows up one thing. You're usually more controlled than that Adje.

We have only got to the 3rd Round 5 times in the last 20 attempts. Surely with all your years of watching the Town you should have known this was a 1:4 chance of happening again. Considering the last time came in 2012 (PdC; we beat Wigan in R3) now means it was a 1:8 chance. There's always next year.

 :pint:

Woking drawnat home to Watford in rd3.

Thank fuck we didn't go through then. Can everyone now concentrate on the league and get over it?

we wouldn't have had the same number would we?

Think we had this one last year, and the answer seemed to be yes.... something to do with round 2 games being given a number after the R3 entrants had been listed.

Yes. For this round, the Prem and Championship clubs get Nos 1 to 44 alphabetically and the Round 2 winners then get 45 to 64 in the order their matches fell in the draw for Round 2. So we would have had the number that Woking had.

ah right, oh well, Watford would have been ok but nothing more

Shame really, as Watford were our most played opponent up until relatively recently, but like many others have left us well behind...

The cup game of 92 was a goody....

That would have been a great tie. What a completely useless bunch of pricks for missing out.....

Power will be gutted, a missed opportunity to rub shoulders with a Pozzo or 2.

we have a strong team :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

shame we didn't play them earlier in the season really, I'm sure Brown would have been grateful if somebody had told him his strongest team

I am used to it.Lets call it the straw that broke this particular camel's back!😀

To be fair, the biggest moaners I've seen so far (not on here so not aimed at you adje) are on social media.. The brigade that usually make the biggest song and dance about how they don't go any more.

Well them and me, moaning about the moaners.

Fair one mate :)

Well at least you didn't say it's just 22 men kicking a ball about.
(or should that be persons).

The ghost of Bill Shankly is watching on and doesn't approve.  ;)

It did feel like my ear got clipped at 5.48pm (or would that be 5.55pm)  :eek:

I think I'd have SEEN the ghost of Bill Shankly if I'd have said "It's only a game."

On second thoughts, it must've been Brian Clough that clipped me ear!

Wrong.

You speak for yourself you beatific, hirsute young man.

The league game away in 92 was a thing of beauty.

The Bobby Howe game was one of my first away trips as soon as I passed my driving test.

That must be one of the last times we played them

Presumably the Chalkie hat-trick...

We had our first encounter with Watford in the Cup in 1896, they were then an early incarnation.. Watford Rovers.

We  won 1-0

We haven't played them since 99.

I touched on it last season, how traditional opponents from the old Southern League and Div 3 S etc, such as Bormuff, QPR, the pair of Bristols, Reading, B and HA, Watford, etc have all left us behind.... leaving Exeter and Cobblers as the most played opponents in Div 4.   Rovers mind, might join us again next year if things stay as they are atm.

So you are saying their is a chance of us getting promoted?

As I said if things stay as they are... we're safely mid table, Rovers in the drop zone 4 points adrift.

Is Reg on Twitter now....  :hmmm:

Have you been prescribed something?

Missing out on a PL club at home just adds to the annoyance.
I'm guessing that the last 10k plus home attendance would have been the P/O game v Sheffield Utd? Although selective memory might have erased a dismal failure v Headington after that.

How have we missed out on a PL Club at home? If we won, we would have been a different ball number.

I'm assured we would have been the same ball number in this round, the number being pre-determined by the R2 tie.

Nah, as I pointed out a few posts back and Private Fraser explained more clearly, would have been Hornets.

You are correct in you being wrong for the right reason, Feb 2017.

We had a record 32,000 v Arsenal in an FA Cup tie in 1970 just after the Arkells replaced the previous shed/stand.

Our record crowd in a League game had been achieved the previous March, 1969 for a critical promotion decider against the Hornets.  28,898 saw a 0-1 defeat under lights for the new League Cup winners against the eventual Div 3 champions..

Power out. ;)

31,668 official attendance in 1972 ;)

Maybe this will help clear up any lingering doubts.  Here is the list of numbers for the Round 3 Draw:

http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/nov/30/fa-cup-third-round-draw-numbers-301118

Prem and Championship teams are Nos 1 to 44 (alphabetically).  Round 2 winners then make up Nos 45 to 64 keeping the same order as they were drawn in Round 2.  Here is the Round 2 draw:

http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/nov/12/fa-cup-draw-second-round-121118

If I remember correctly, it operates differently in other rounds. Being a longstanding Town fan, I tend not to pay much attention to the FA Cup after the 3rd round!

Is that a new thing then?

nah, the fa cup has been around for a while

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap: :clap: