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Title: Carlisle Sat
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:02:44

A new era! A win and we switch places.

Swindon (17th)- 4 clean sheets this season- 6 games since a home win.

Carlisle (11th) - 3 clean sheets this season. seem quite typically league 2 hit and miss- lost to macclesfield, drew to lincoln, beat Newport in last 3 games.

Im assuming Wellens still won't have the best 11 available (toumani, doughty, woolery for me) but if you have ambitions for promotion then you have to start winning these games.

Seems like they have fans like us..."Time the Happy clappers sent a message to Mr 17.1 million Jenkins either get your hand in your pocket and fund the club or we might just follow your lead and lose our chequebooks when it comes round to season ticket renewal time"

"Can't see how he's doing such a great job to be honest. Its been the most dismal stuff I can remember and most of the signings have been poor.

If Sheridan's the answer what's the question? Nobody's going to flock down to BP to watch this dross. Crowd will be down to 3000 come the new year."

2-0 town. A win and a clean sheet. unbelievable!


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:06:19
Looking forward to this.

Hoping for a new manager bounce and 3 points. I won't be too harsh on the new gaffer if we don't win, but I am expecting to see an invigorised team and plenty of passing, attacking intent.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:22:21
Personally not expecting much of a new manager bounce. If its going to work out I think its going to be  evolution not revolution..

But as you say, its certainly going to be interesting to see what he does in terms of personnel, formation and speed of attack (passing).


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:40:29
 I believe Sheridan is Wellens hero...... he was always the one Oldham turned to when needing to stay up, as in 16/17.  That season they experimented with trying to play some football, ended up marooned, and Sheridan kept them up by playing ugly.

 I'd imagine Carlisle won't be a whole lot different.... Wellens hopefully learned last season that in relegation battle, you have to foresake principles for pragmatism.  You could see that Brown got this, by the formation and personnel at Meadow Lane.

 Wellens will probably get a couple of games "honeymoon" but as said previously he's got about a dozen games before Power can get some loan kids in Jan.... and will need an improvement on his last dozen which yielded 1 win

 


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:45:48
Yeah, but the pitch is shiny, so he should be OK tomorrow.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 16, 2018, 13:24:59
I might amble along


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, November 16, 2018, 13:31:57
Seeing as Wellens has only had a couple of days to work with the players I doubt there'll be any huge overhaul in the way we play. I think the best we can hope for is for the players to go out a little galvanised by the fact there's a new gaffer to impress.

Sounds like Carlisle have been as bad as us so a winnable tie.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 16, 2018, 13:34:37
Seems the sort of game where a headless chicken Dunne will throw himself into a red card.

Ditto Sid ‘mad fucker’ Nelson.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, November 16, 2018, 13:59:08

 I'd imagine Carlisle won't be a whole lot different.... Wellens hopefully learned last season that in relegation a battle, you have to foresake principles for pragmatism.  You could see that Brown got this, by the formation and personnel at Meadow Lane.

 Wellens will probably get a couple of games "honeymoon" but as said previously he's got about a dozen games before Power can get some loan kids in Jan.... and will need an improvement on his last dozen which yielded 1 win
 

We're not in a relegation battle Reg.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 16, 2018, 14:02:22
Seems the sort of game where a headless chicken Dunne will throw himself into a red card.

Ditto Sid ‘mad fucker’ Nelson.

Sid seems to be relatively calm in the field. He was very reserved when Timi Elsnik squared up to him and pushed him away. I love Nelson, quickly growing into my player of the season based on what I have seen. He is always the first to go over and applaud the fans in the stands every game which gets bonus points for me.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: normy on Friday, November 16, 2018, 14:10:48
Dunne has been excellent the last few game, I hope he's learned his lesson.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:05:13
We're not in a relegation battle Reg.

Extrapolate our last 10 games until the end of the season we get 47 points.... enough to stay up by one, last year. Of course a lot depends on what the likes of Macc, Notts and Numb are doing, as it might make it a bit easier, but Rovers went with 51, so no guarantees.

Power, gets this which is why he sacked Brown.... hoping to get a bounce from Wellens. We'll see on that, again there are no guarantees. He'll still be stuck with the same players for a chunk of the season yet.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:10:06

Power, gets this which is why he sacked Brown.... hoping to get a bounce from Wellens. We'll see on that, again there are no guarantees. He'll still be stuck with the same players for a chunk of the season yet.

You're better than that Reg, you're contradicting yourself now. You only said a few posts back to effect '...Brown gets this, which is why he changed tactics....and it worked.' So if it worked and that is the way we were going to play then why would Power change manager to one who likes to play football? Especially if we're going to as you say, have to play ugly in this "Relegation battle". Can't be both Reg.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:12:37
You're better than that Reg,

No, he isn't.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:12:46
For reference in saying Brown understood we had to play ugly to win.


...You could see that Brown got this, by the formation and personnel at Meadow Lane.



Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:13:45
No, he isn't.

I do apologise for my error  :)


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 16, 2018, 15:23:08
You're better than that Reg, you're contradicting yourself now. You only said a few posts back to effect '...Brown gets this, which is why he changed tactics....and it worked.' So if it worked and that is the way we were going to play then why would Power change manager to one who likes to play football? Especially if we're going to as you say, have to play ugly in this "Relegation battle". Can't be both Reg.

Brown changed for the Notts game and got the important win, not unreasonably stuck with it for ColU, and nearly nicked a point.

As regards what Power thinks, it probably doesn't stretch much further than his wallet... he can say all he likes about Luke being a mistake.... but it was his mistake and a fairly basic one at that.  He could read posts on here in autumn 2016, saying we're in trouble and the manager needs to change.



Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: brocklesby red on Friday, November 16, 2018, 16:23:58


As regards what Power thinks, it probably doesn't stretch much further than his wallet... he can say all he likes about Luke being a mistake.... but it was his mistake and a fairly basic one at that.  He could read posts on here in autumn 2016, saying we're in trouble and the manager needs to change.


[/quote]He accepts that he made a mistake with Williams. Williams wasn’t keen on the job but Power persuaded him to take it, probably why he took a long time to take the decision to sack him. Brown on the other hand persuaded Power to give him a chance with his own players and when it went tits up he was more decisive.


Title: Re: Carlisle Sat
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 16, 2018, 16:36:49

As regards what Power thinks, it probably doesn't stretch much further than his wallet... he can say all he likes about Luke being a mistake.... but it was his mistake and a fairly basic one at that.  He could read posts on here in autumn 2016, saying we're in trouble and the manager needs to change.


He accepts that he made a mistake with Williams. Williams wasn’t keen on the job but Power persuaded him to take it, probably why he took a long time to take the decision to sack him. Brown on the other hand persuaded Power to give him a chance with his own players and when it went tits up he was more decisive.

I would say the opposite.... had Power acted quickly, Luke could have gone back to some sort of coaching within the club

He did have some sympathy amongst the fans, which was then lost by hanging about when clearly out of his depth, harming the club..... I used to argue if he had any personal dignity he should walk. Being able to hold your head up, more important than a few quid.  This was a not a view held by many others who felt he was right to hang on and take his wage, even though it was obvious we were for the drop.

I'm still unconvinced that sticking Hunt in as assistant makes much sense.... but we'll see on that one.