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Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Sir red ken on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 16:56:12
It would be easy money for LP but I am not certain he would let go of our prized asset so soon.
Yeah, he would. A quick 250k in the bank and another reduction in the wage bill, makes it up to 300k.
We've let better players go for that amount in the past. STFC are know as a selling club who never ask for the true value.
Every player we've let go has a January sale and a fire sale reduction tag attached to them.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 17:02:15
I genuinely can’t think of one player Power has sold for under his value.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good moan.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 17:04:49
How about Norris? Only got £120,000 for him.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 17:06:17
How about Norris? Only got £120,000 for him.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
:D
Power is probably the only chairman that hasn’t let players go for pittance.

Cue ‘that’s because he’s lining his own pocket’ comments.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 17:21:48
Even got money for a 'keeper that everybody slated!!


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Sir red ken on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 19:42:30
I genuinely can’t think of one player Power has sold for under his value.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good moan.
Wes fodderingham, Nathan Thompson,Kayden Jackson.Simon Ferry all given away on free's.
Many of the other deals were undisclosed so they could have been excellent or terrible business.
Historically we've always sold players cheaply, Austin and Ritchie to name a few even though that wasn't LP doing.
Flint was certainly under priced.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 19:48:39
Wes fodderingham, Nathan Thompson,Kayden Jackson.Simon Ferry all given away on free's.


They weren’t ‘given’ away.
If a player doesn’t want to sign a contract, there is nothing that can be done.
Also, I can’t imagine we would ever have got money for Ferry regardless, and Jackson had a stint in non league so we aren’t the only club that didn’t see anything in him.
Clutching at straws.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 19:51:14
...and nobody at the time said Flint was under priced.  Simon Ferry went on to make 99 more appearances after laving Swindon, hardly much there to suggest we could have made serious money on him.  The hero-worshipped PdC bombed out Caddis and we let him go at under market value but that is overlooked?

As Quagmire says you really are clutching at straws.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 19:58:22
The ‘power’ all lies with the players nowadays. Some clubs, Peterborough being a good example, automatically place their players on the transfer list when they enter their last year of contract.

Owners will get slated if they sell players off early or hang on to them and then go for nothing. It’s one or the other.

I think the only big mistake Power has made in this window is not making sure Preston stayed seeing the problems we are having recruiting a CB. Saying that, Preston may have wanted to go irrespective of wages offered - and he was offered a 3 year deal, tbf.

Clubs at almost every size and level have to sell players. It’s a fine balancing act between getting money and gambling on gaining promotion and getting the player to re-sign. Failure to go up inevitably leads to some good players leaving for nowt.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 20:13:03
I was shocked at the price we got for Flint at the time. I’d never have believed anyone if they said we’d get another £700k + on top of that.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 20:29:45
I was shocked at the price we got for Flint at the time. I’d never have believed anyone if they said we’d get another £700k + on top of that.

Exactly, it's people re-writing history just so they can use it as so called evidence to have a go at Power.

To be fair you don't need to make shit up to do that, as Power provides enough ammunition with the shit PR from the club a lot of the time.

In fact, making stuff up does the opposite, because you end up questioning everything they say, even when its actually true


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 20:32:06
He has his faults, we all know that.
But selling players on the cheap has never been one of them, despite what many of our fans will try make us believe.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 20:52:17
Interestingly, there is enough evidence coming from the club adimitedly most from PB to suggest that someone maybe more than just one will come in before the loan market closes. It’s obvious that we are short in certain areas and it’s a long slog from now unti January. Brown will have to diligently plough on to get his man.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, August 26, 2018, 22:54:28
Wes fodderingham, Nathan Thompson,Kayden Jackson.Simon Ferry all given away on free's.
Many of the other deals were undisclosed so they could have been excellent or terrible business.
Historically we've always sold players cheaply, Austin and Ritchie to name a few even though that wasn't LP doing.
Flint was certainly under priced.



I might be beating around the bush here, but what a load of fucking bollocks that lot is.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, August 27, 2018, 07:12:47
Wes fodderingham, Nathan Thompson,Kayden Jackson.Simon Ferry all given away on free's.
Many of the other deals were undisclosed so they could have been excellent or terrible business.
Historically we've always sold players cheaply, Austin and Ritchie to name a few even though that wasn't LP doing.
Flint was certainly under priced.


If you can go back and find a single post that suggested Jackson was worth a fee, I’ll give you a tenner. I’d be surprised if his departure was even acknowledged. Fair play to him.

If you can find a way of convincing players not to run down contracts and move on a Bosman, such as NT and Foderingham, there will be football chairmen around the world ready to give you more than a tenner.

The income isn’t the issue. It’s he reinvestment of it!


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: adje on Monday, August 27, 2018, 08:35:51
Nathan Thompson is worth next to nothing anyway.Knoyle is a far better player in my opinion


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 09:24:40
He has his faults, we all know that.
But selling players on the cheap has never been one of them, despite what many of our fans will try make us believe.
I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.

He will never let any player be knowing undersold in the transfer market.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: tans on Monday, August 27, 2018, 09:39:23
Nathan Thompson is worth next to nothing anyway.Knoyle is a far better player in my opinion

But Nathan Thompson has pashun and is one of our own! Great captain too.

I agree with you.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 09:52:06
But Nathan Thompson has pashun and is one of our own! Great captain too.

I agree with you.
I think Knoyle has the potential to go a lot further in the game than NT.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:00:01
I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.

He will never let any player be knowing undersold in the transfer market.

Power isn't the Chairman... he's the owner. Completely different.  The owner isn't even the same as the majority shareholder.

We've had a couple of majority shareholders like SSW and Black who've put in Chairman as such.... Hunt, Carson, Fitton, Wray as there has been other heads involved in what might be termed a "Board"   If Jed was ever the owner, then he had the classic, Callum Rice "Board"   

Again someone like Terry Brady was he ever truly the owner  :hmmm:  after he quit, and we had the Donegan and Blatchley interregnum, it seemed that SSW was still majority shareholder after all.

So it could be argued that Power is the first real owner, insofar as there are no other voices around what used to be called the Boardroom.

When judging his time thus far, then you can say he'll probably do enough to keep league football in Swindon, a not insignificant achievement, but that's about it.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:04:00
I think you will find he actually IS charman. Saying he isn't chairman is truly splitting hairs, he is owner/chairman so my point still stands.

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Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:06:04
I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.


The other day, I saw somebody on one of those FB pages say that we cannot possibly get worse than Power.

He's far from being perfect, but fucking hell!


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:13:44
The other day, I saw somebody on one of those FB pages say that we cannot possibly get worse than Power.

He's far from being perfect, but fucking hell!
Exactly, as a for instance....Jed...we need go no further than that but lets do it...the Oystens at Blackpool, The Venkys at Blackburn, Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Vincent Tan at Cardiff, The endless owners of Pompey, The endless owners of Leeds Utd, John Batchelor at York, the list goes on and on.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:13:51
I think you will find he actually IS charman. Saying he isn't chairman is truly splitting hairs, he is owner/chairman so my point still stands.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/e7eio873f/Untitled.jpg)

Although seemingly a pedantic point... it isn't.  Whereas in the past there were other voices arouind the table... now there isn't.

Power is the first complete autocrat at STFC and as such cannot be compared to his predecessors. 

What can be compared is to where the new model of ownership has taken us.... some economic stability .... good,  league position... not so good.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:15:50
There are so many instances of worse than Power in recent history in the Football League.

Again, he has his faults, but if anybody really thinks he is stealing from the club or actively plotting the clubs demise they need to get sectioned immediately.  

I think he's trying to do right by the club but his execution hasn't quite been up to it.  It looks like he's learning from mistakes to me, we've a few players that have no sell on value whatsoever but are fit for purpose in the division we find ourselves in, that wouldn't have been the case 2 or 3 years ago.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:19:05
The owner chairman is a fairly new thing in football and very prevalent but few clubs now have an owner that isn't a chairman, certainly in the top 2 divisions and often much lower too.

Power may well be the first but I am certain he won't be the last for sure.

And yes I agree totally KT.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:21:22
Exactly, as a for instance....Jed...we need go no further than that but lets do it...the Oystens at Blackpool, The Venkys at Blackburn, Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Vincent Tan at Cardiff, The endless owners of Pompey, The endless owners of Leeds Utd, John Batchelor at York, the list goes on and on.

Of course we can get worse than Power.... however that wasn't the original point.  Similarly we could get better than Power, we won't know until he sells up.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:27:49

I think he's trying to do right by the club but his execution hasn't quite been up to it.  

Me too, but not in an entirely altruistic sense.

He's made it clear he wants to profit from it. To do that, though, he'd need to be selling something that's worth paying for. That means managing it well and investing well. The former part hasn't gone to plan... yet and we may or may not see the latter come to fruition on the coming months/years.

In another year or two we might be looking in the best shape that we have done for a long, long time regardless of which league we're in. Or we might not. Time's a bugger.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 10:39:26
The owner chairman is a fairly new thing in football and very prevalent but few clubs now have an owner that isn't a chairman, certainly in the top 2 divisions and often much lower too.

Power may well be the first but I am certain he won't be the last for sure.

And yes I agree totally KT.

I'd imagine that clubs listed on the Stock Exchange have to have a Board, but will have a majority shareholder.

My gut feeling is that clubs owned privately will also have a Board.... so for example Reading....

Reading Football Club ownership structure: 75% Owned by Renhe Sports Management Ltd, 100% owned by Xiu Li Dai and Yongge Dai. 25% Owned by Narin Niruttinanon

Reading F.C. Directors: Xiu Li Dai, Yongge Dai, Ronald Gourlay, Narin Niruttinanon, Nigel Howe

It would be of interest for someone to do the research.... but again gut feeling says it's easier to gain autocratic status as owner in a small lower league side than further up the pyramid.

Here's a handy guide to club ownership....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:07:05
I think the only 'one of own' prospects, in recent times that we regret selling for a low fee is Billy Bodin. c£80k at the time seemed sensible for an ultimately 4 choice striker. However, I remember after his loan at Torquay he hit a wave of form and scored three or four in close succession. He was then sent to Crewe. For me (i'm no manager), that was the key point. He should've kept his place on merit. Returning from a loan and getting back into the squad, and providing goals - that is his job. He did that.

It was no secret that Benson, Connell, De Vita and come to think of it...Kerrouche were ahead of him. Right place, wrong time. No i'm not Paul Bodin but I'm happy he's taken an organic footballing route. Now in the Championship, was on the verge of the play-offs last season, with Preston. Wish him all the best.

Anyway, rumours... ;)


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:13:22
Although seemingly a pedantic point... it isn't.  Whereas in the past there were other voices arouind the table... now there isn't.

Power is the first complete autocrat at STFC and as such cannot be compared to his predecessors. 

What can be compared is to where the new model of ownership has taken us.... some economic stability .... good,  league position... not so good.

You could've come out with some grace there Reg, by admitting "Apologies, I'm wrong." but you didn't. You just diverted back to your usual rhetoric. PV wasn't comparing where we are as a club, he was pointing out that Power IS the Chairman. You said he wasn't. So admit you're wrong on that point.


Title: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:26:36
You could've come out with some grace there Reg, by admitting "Apologies, I'm wrong." but you didn't. You just diverted back to your usual rhetoric. PV wasn't comparing where we are as a club, he was pointing out that Power IS the Chairman. You said he wasn't. So admit you're wrong on that point.

To be a chairman or woman you need to have a Board to chair... it's that simple, we don't.  What we have now is a regime not previously seen at STFC whereby one man, has complete control over decisions.  Previous majority shareholders like SSW and Black, while quite capable of autocracy, either chose to have or history dictated there would be other sizeable shareholders around.

Now you can have an argument about which moidel works better..... but lets not confuse the issue.... Power is the owner, it represents a huge departure from the previous governance of the club.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:57:37
You have Clem involved now, and a non-exec board, plus three people with Chief in their title "running" operations.

The difference is Power is actively involved in decision making, but I wouldn't mind betting there are other parties behind the scenes.

Power's past suggests he does indeed like to call the shots, and that he also doesn't care much for bad press, a bit Trumpian in fact.

Clem's involvement seems to suggest a change has occurred though, that he has realised he cannot do it all with success.

Anyway, far away from being the worst and Red Kens post about players leaving on the cheap is absurd.  The one thing we have done well since Power has had the strings, is sell players for some cash.  Whether it has been invested the way we think is best for the club is another matter, but you can't use a handful of variable talent that left at the end of their contracts as evidence to beat him on selling players for under value, absurd.

If Brown is to be believed, and I think it likely he sprinkles a fair bit of BS into his comments, Power has not denied him a player yet.  More likely is that Brown knows what he is working with, so might well have not bothered with some players on that basis.

Transfers - on current form, early as it is, we'd reach the play off's if sustained over the course of a season.  There are clear and obvious areas we could do with improving, but early evidence, in the form of the data we have to hand, suggests we have enough if managed well to be in and around the mix.  Ideally a centre half and left back would help I think, but if we don't get them I still expect Brown to muster a challenge with what he has at his disposal.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 27, 2018, 11:59:27
I think thats a pretty accurate summing up Rob.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, August 27, 2018, 12:10:36
To be a chairman or woman you need to have a Board to chair... it's that simple, we don't.  What we have now is a regime not previously seen at STFC whereby one man, has complete control over decisions.  Previous majority shareholders like SSW and Black, while quite capable of autocracy, either chose to have or history dictated there would be other sizeable shareholders around.

Now you can have an argument about which moidel works better..... but lets not confuse the issue.... Power is the owner, it represents a huge departure from the previous governance of the club.

Surely he can, and does chair meetings with Clem Morfuni, Steve Anderson, et al?

Also, if memory serves me correctly, Black was incredibly autocratic in his pulling the plug on all funds (ultimately resetting us to the brink of administration). No capable about it, he was. In a strange way, there is probably more stability with Power (a man who knows he has limited funds), yet needs a bit more good advice and funds (hence Morfuni).


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 27, 2018, 12:15:46
Not forgetting that if the joint stadium project happens, the Trust will be in the boardroom.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, August 27, 2018, 12:28:52
Not forgetting that if the joint stadium project happens, the Trust will be in the boardroom.

Absolutely....but we don't have a board to chair...remember  ;)


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 27, 2018, 12:33:16
I think the only 'one of own' prospects, in recent times that we regret selling for a low fee is Billy Bodin. c£80k at the time seemed sensible for an ultimately 4 choice striker. However, I remember after his loan at Torquay he hit a wave of form and scored three or four in close succession. He was then sent to Crewe. For me (i'm no manager), that was the key point. He should've kept his place on merit. Returning from a loan and getting back into the squad, and providing goals - that is his job. He did that.

It was no secret that Benson, Connell, De Vita and come to think of it...Kerrouche were ahead of him. Right place, wrong time. No i'm not Paul Bodin but I'm happy he's taken an organic footballing route. Now in the Championship, was on the verge of the play-offs last season, with Preston. Wish him all the best.

Anyway, rumours... ;)

Billy bodin leaving had nothing to do with his ability and everything to do with Di Canio not liking his dad


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 14:38:03
Surely he can, and does chair meetings with Clem Morfuni, Steve Anderson, et al?

Presumably Morfuni is based in Australia... his involvement appears to be in the stadium development .... so Power having said previously he's no interest in that side of things, one assumes he's leaving it to the Aussie.

We'll have to wait and see how that pans out....

I'm sure Power talks to Anderson to tell him what to do....


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 14:50:11
Not forgetting that if the joint stadium project happens, the Trust will be in the boardroom.

The Trust in the Boardroom, with a return to a more collegiate and community based model would be desirable....but won't be putting too much on ever seeing it happen as long as Power is owner.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, August 27, 2018, 18:53:21
Flint was certainly under priced.
When Flint signed his last contract with us it had a release clause on it and a price which if offered made it obligatory to inform the player and he decided he wanted to go!  At least we got a sell-on percentage to come from it, how much was the sell-on for Ritchie?


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, August 27, 2018, 19:53:41
The Trust in the Boardroom, with a return to a more collegiate and community based model would be desirable....but won't be putting too much on ever seeing it happen as long as Power is owner.

Maybe you’d prefer an oligarch?


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 27, 2018, 20:13:15
Quote from: ronnie21
how much was the sell-on for Ritchie?

good old Jed...

Better than going into administration I suppose (if it was even granted)


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 27, 2018, 20:25:25
Maybe you’d prefer an oligarch?

Well Wiltshire sems to be of interest to Russia.... but I guess Sarum is closer to Bormuff than Swindon, and they've already got one.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, August 27, 2018, 20:40:25
Well Wiltshire sems to be of interest to Russia.... but I guess Sarum is closer to Bormuff than Swindon, and they've already got one.

Don’t be coy comrade, use your contacts put the feelers out.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, August 27, 2018, 21:35:31
Nathan Thompson is worth next to nothing anyway.Knoyle is a far better player in my opinion

Never thought NT was more than a decent right back. Certainly not a Caddis (under PDC). But as sweeper, NT was a class act. I’ve not seen much of Knoyle so can’t comment - he’s quick, he seems direct - but that’s a big statement to make!


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Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, August 27, 2018, 21:44:43
good old Jed...

Better than going into administration I suppose (if it was even granted)
It wasn't Jed that sold him.


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 27, 2018, 21:46:16
it was an agreement between black and Jed wasn't it?


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 11:49:17
The way I remember it is that Black had stopped putting money into the club and they needed to find funds to keep the club ticking over until the sale was finalised. Ritchie was sold before Jed and his crew took over the club and I don't think Jed had any say in the matter (although I read somewhere that Black informed him of what was happening so if this is what you mean by an agreement between Black and Jed I guess it's technically correct).

I dug out the statement that Black made on Twitter at the the time to check:

https://sabotagetimes.com/football/former-swindon-owner-andrew-blacks-anti-di-canio-twitter-rant-in-full

Interestingly, however, it does say that Di Canio was kept fully informed and had accepted it (as confirmed by Simon Ferry on the Loathed Stranger podcast).


Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 14:57:55
ex-trialist Abdul Osman signs for PAS Lamia 1964 in the Greek Super League.



Title: Re: Not STFC Transfer Rumours version MXMXIIVIIV
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 19:19:13
Kellan Gordon signs on loan for Lincoln