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Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:37:14
So all kicks off tomorrow. Looking forward to watching some decent matches.

I have put money on Belgium and Germany to win the tournament. Always bet on Belgium, they have a talented squad but always under perform.

The home nation always seem to do ok, but I believe Russia are the lowest ranked country in the tournament?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:46:41
17 teams ranked below them. They are at 15


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:50:08
Can't see past the ususal suspects, Germany, Brazil, Spain, and outside chance with France and Belgium.

I expect England to get to the last 16 with a last 8 possible.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:50:26
I need to sort out some bets, and maybe a fantasy team if anyone is using Telegraph Fantasy Football.

Russia seem to be very down on their own chances, but then again their opening game is against Saudi Arabia. The human rights derby that one.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:52:27
Can't see past the ususal suspects, Germany, Brazil, Spain, and outside chance with France and Belgium.

I expect England to get to the last 16 with a last 8 possible.

Agree. Virtually every team has pretty much the same squad as 4 years ago. Ours is the most changed. Changed, but still rubbish. Might make last 16, no further, unless we get a really weak team.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:58:45
England have only won 6 knockout games since 1966. SIX. Depressing or what.

Paraguay 1986
Belgium 1990
Cameroon 1990
Spain 1996
Denmark 2002
Ecuador 2006


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 08:59:02
Be interesting to see the games in UHD as well. All on the iplayer but first come first serve basis.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:00:50
Controversial, but I've no real interest in spending extra on UHD. Personally I find within 5 minutes I adjust to whatever source is available. Just me though.

I also don't have a UHD TV :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:11:36
Will watch it, but reasonably indifferent about the whole thing to be honest.

Suspect Russia will do better than expected, VAR presents a great opportunity for them.  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:14:59
Spain's coach got the Real Madrid gig yesterday, and suggestion is the Spanish FA might sack him as a result... certainly puts the nonsense about Sterling's tattoo into perspective as unhelpful pre-tournament events go.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:17:37
If anyone did fancy joining a Fantasy League - PIN 8157787 and Passcode 1969

It's relatively easy to sign up - https://fantasyfootball.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/main


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:24:09
 Robbie Williams  :hmmm:   Our political overlords are getting themselves Tied up in Nottz, over the alleged Burslem fan doing the opening ceremony.... presumably he'll be crooning Party Like a Russian  :)

 I like it, we might be shit at football, but can still turn out an entertainer.

 As for the football, I expect a succession of tedious matches marred by dodgy decisions based on VAR....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:36:51
We'll go well. I like this England team.

Uruguay my dark horse. Money on Cavani golden boot.

Brazil or France to win it. Spain imploding on the eve of the tournament is unbelievable.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:43:39
Germany will win in a final with Brazil. 1-0.

England will go out in the quarters probably on penalties after dominating the match and not finding the net.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 09:59:34
Germany will win in a final with Brazil. 1-0.

England will go out in the quarters probably on penalties after dominating the match and not finding the net.

That would be something of a triumph for Gareth.  Reality is that little has changed for England.  Maybe expectations are a bit more realistic.  But can't help thinking that most assume we'll pitch up and beat Tunisia.... we're ranked 12th by FIFA, Tunisia 21st, not that much in it, Iceland 22nd.  So a draw with Tunisia, beat Panama, and lose to Belgium, opens up not qualifying, as Tunisia can beat Panama and draw with Belgium. Belgium then need to beat Panama.

A repeat of the scoreline from 98 would be most welcome... if not the off field stuff


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 10:29:51
Placing any weight on Fifa rankings is ridiculous, as I'm sure you're aware.

Poland and Switzerland are comfortably in the top 10 yet will both struggle to get out the groups. Spain are 10th, and are expected to go very close (before all of this stuff with the manager).

QFs is a realistic success.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 10:43:24
Placing any weight on Fifa rankings is ridiculous, as I'm sure you're aware.

Poland and Switzerland are comfortably in the top 10 yet will both struggle to get out the groups. Spain are 10th, and are expected to go very close (before all of this stuff with the manager).

QFs is a realistic success.

It just gives a bit of weight to considering the relative strengths of sides.  In recent years I've see England struggle against sides who are considered inferior, to the extent that I can see no reason why we should expect to beat Tunisia.

For me it's down to mental strength and desire, qualities sadly lacking in our players.  THe WC presents a golden opportunity for lads from countries like Tunisia.... what you might call Gamboa syndrome... Christian Gamboa, had a tidy WC for Costa Rica, who won the group we failed to qualify from, and on the back of it got a nice Prem contract (WBA) then a move to Celtic.... 30 games in 4 years, but lucrative.

Our lot just don't have that sort of motivation.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:06:32
Linesmen, or whatever they are called nowadays, have been instructed not to flag for close offside decisions.

Wonder what definition of 'close' is going to be used.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:11:50
 So Lopetegui is sacked  :)

 Certainly different. Andres Iniesta, could do a caretaker job  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:12:15
So Spain have just sacked their manager because he agreed to take over at Real after the tournament, itís almost Swindon esq.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:12:53
Reg beat me to it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:15:43
So Lopetegui is sacked  :)

Not even Holland managed that level of implosion at a WC.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:18:58
Reg beat me to it.

When you think about it, makes sense... there has always been a schism between the Real and Barca players.  Barca players are not going to take kindly to being told what to do by Real's next manager.

Iniesta, would have the status to close that divide.  Anyway will be interesting to see what they do.  Pep is probably around somewhere.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:21:47
Just throwing it out there, and extremely unlikely but Wenger?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:25:30
2026 World Cup venue being chosen today too. North America (Canada/USA/Mexico) or Morocco. Quite fancy a month in Morocco...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:33:15
When you compare the income that FIFA are going to get for each bid, there is sadly no way its going to be Morocco....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 11:42:51
England have only won 6 knockout games since 1966. SIX. Depressing or what.

Paraguay 1986
Belgium 1990
Cameroon 1990
Spain 1996
Denmark 2002
Ecuador 2006

Of those 6, I think Spain in Euro96 had 2 perfectly good goals disallowed and Lineker cheated to get a pen in WC 1990 .... FOOTBALLS COMING HOME!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:11:29
How many of those were even in 90 mins? Paraguay and the last 2 according to my memory

Anyway im tipping France, quality squad as long they can avoid falling out with each other.

As for England, itís a great group and a great last 16 potential draw against a team from the weakest group. Should get to QF against Brazil or Germany and thatís where it will end


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:16:39
....meanwhile, looking ahead, the joint USA, Canada, Mexico bid just got the nod for the 2026 WC (with 48 teams - so Scotland will have a chance!).  Hopefully, Trump will be long gone by then or travel between the three countries could be a long, drawn-out affair.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:21:24
Pretty surprised FIFA went with the sensible choice


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:28:23
Pretty surprised FIFA went with the sensible choice

Sure it was not entirely down to that...

'The US, Canada and Mexico joint bid is promising Fifa associations vast profits of $11bn (£8.2bn). That compares with around $6bn (£4.48bn) from Morocco.'


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:30:43
Well I suppose costs will be low, already got brilliant stadiums in place so plenty of profit to be creamed off


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 12:50:32
As long as they get a singer who's never seen a football before to take a penalty, I'm OK with it


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 13:24:44
So Spain have just sacked their manager because he agreed to take over at Real after the tournament, itís almost Swindon esq.
Big Sam on standby


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 14:01:01

As for England, itís a great group and a great last 16 potential draw against a team from the weakest group. Should get to QF against Brazil or Germany and thatís where it will end

Nah, we'll beat Germany on penalties.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 14:33:37
Didn't realise this will also be a 48 team tournament!!

I'm all for globalisation and growing the sport but thats too many!!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: kirky69 on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 15:45:48
If anyone did fancy joining a Fantasy League - PIN 8157787 and Passcode 1969

It's relatively easy to sign up - https://fantasyfootball.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/main


Nemo - I have joined.. thanks


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 16:09:27
Not even Holland managed that level of implosion at a WC.

They have never managed anything at the WC :-)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 16:57:13
they got to the final and nearly won it by kicking Spain a lot.

or is this a Netherlands/Holland point?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 18:12:01
If anyone did fancy joining a Fantasy League - PIN 8157787 and Passcode 1969

It's relatively easy to sign up - https://fantasyfootball.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/main


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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 19:18:03
Nestor

https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6519558/world-cup-2018-colombia-nestor-lorenzo-brian-clough-swindon-town-england/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Sprnklr+SUN+Organic&UTMX=Editorial%253ATheSunFootball%253ATw+Image+and+link%253AStatement%253ASport


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 10:13:33
Nice piece there about the most mental player possibly ever to grace the CG in Swindon colours.

I will be interested to see football in UHD on the beeb, about time the technology came up to speed, the few bits I have seen on Sky Q in UHD have been not a lot better than HD TBH though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 10:46:16
I think for the first time in a while, I am fully behind this England side. Of course I don't expect us to win the tournament, but I reckon this group of players seem relatively likeable and seem to have an idea of how they want to play.

I also think Gareth Southgate comes across very well in interviews and I would like to see his side do well for him.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 10:50:21
Interesting that Fernando Hierro whose taken on the Spain job as caretaker, would have worked under Phil Brown's cone carrying skills at Bolton.  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:24:01
I think for the first time in a while, I am fully behind this England side. Of course I don't expect us to win the tournament, but I reckon this group of players seem relatively likeable and seem to have an idea of how they want to play.

I also think Gareth Southgate comes across very well in interviews and I would like to see his side do well for him.



Gareth is a nice chap... he comes across like a geography teacher, taking a bunch of kids on a field trip. He's in a good position atm.  The realisation that as a country we're not very good at this football lark, seems to have finally sunk in.

Further, the idea for better or worse, that the best way to improve prospects is by bringing in kids through the age groups and at the same time develop their coaches, looks to be flavour of the month.   This needs time and continuity....and Gareth provides that.  I would hope that he could survive not getting out of the group, and get a shot at the next Euro.

Otherwise the logic of the "model" is that Ady Boothroyd will be next England boss  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:28:33
Otherwise the logic of the "model" is that Ady Boothroyd will be next England boss  :)

With Iffy as number 2  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:31:07
Saudi Arabia are as long as 9/1 to beat Russia today.

They have won 2 of the last 5, and only lost to Italy and Germany by single goals.

Russia on the other hand are the worst team in the competition by some distance.

9/1 for any football match is ridiculous. 9/1 in favour of the better side is ludicrous.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:36:21
Saudi Arabia are as long as 9/1 to beat Russia today.

They have won 2 of the last 5, and only lost to Italy and Germany by single goals.

Russia on the other hand are the worst team in the competition by some distance.

9/1 for any football match is ridiculous. 9/1 in favour of the better side is ludicrous.

this is very disheartening to read. I took advantage of the Betfair offer for new customers of Russia to win at 100/1 thinking that the hosts will get off to a new start Surely they'll win this one at home?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:42:31
I've had a tenner on the draw at 16/5, it feels like expectations of... let's call it "normal host nation bias" are being priced into this game.

What on earth was the maximum stake for 100/1 on Russia BO, 20p?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:45:13
With Iffy as number 2  :)

Well John Gorman was Glenn's cone carrier, so Iffy being Scottish shouldn't get in the way.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:47:02
The game has 0-0 written all over it to me, Russia are pretty shit and SA struggle to score regularly they have only scored more than 2 goals once in the last 17 games.

Very unusual if the host nation don't make it through to the knockout rounds but it could happen this WC.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:53:26
The game has 0-0 written all over it to me, Russia are pretty shit and SA struggle to score regularly they have only scored more than 2 goals once in the last 17 games.

Very unusual if the host nation don't make it through to the knockout rounds but it could happen this WC.

I actually think you're right, it will be a 0-0 or 1-1, but at 9/1 you can't not have a £10 on it.

I've also got 2 or fewer 0-0s in the tournament though, so 0-0 tonight is a nightmare result for me!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:53:45
Saudi Arabia are as long as 9/1 to beat Russia today.

They have won 2 of the last 5, and only lost to Italy and Germany by single goals.

Russia on the other hand are the worst team in the competition by some distance.

9/1 for any football match is ridiculous. 9/1 in favour of the better side is ludicrous.

Got 17/2 so will have a bit of that!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:54:14
I've had a tenner on the draw at 16/5, it feels like expectations of... let's call it "normal host nation bias" are being priced into this game.

What on earth was the maximum stake for 100/1 on Russia BO, 20p?

£1 nemo. Paddy Power are also doing this offer if anyone fancies the Ruskies today.

Of course, if it wins, the £100 is in free bets which have to be used within 7 days but I think its worth a punt.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 11:55:21
 Massimo Luongo is the only player at this WC who I can think of whose played for the Town.  Have I missed anyone  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:03:53
I actually think you're right, it will be a 0-0 or 1-1, but at 9/1 you can't not have a £10 on it.
9-1 in any international game that has 2 fairly equal level teams is silly, they will have to pay out a lot if the Saudis do win!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:04:51
Massimo Luongo is the only player at this WC who I can think of whose played for the Town.  Have I missed anyone  :hmmm:

Mohammed El Gabas seems to have narrowly missed out on the Egypt squad.

I wonder how many of the WC nations we have/haven't had players from in the past? I can't think of any Saudis, Peruvians, Panamanians or Costa Ricans immediately, but I bet it's actually a surprisingly long list.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:05:00
When Southgate was appointed I was disgusted with the decision but he's won me round with the changes he's made to the system and personnel.

I also like the way he's closed the gap between the players, fans and media.

Just hope we avoid Colombia in the last 16 as I've thought for ages they'll knock us out if we meet.

I'm always behind England in a tournament and as much as ever this time around.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:15:18
Mohammed El Gabas seems to have narrowly missed out on the Egypt squad.

I wonder how many of the WC nations we have/haven't had players from in the past? I can't think of any Saudis, Peruvians, Panamanians or Costa Ricans immediately, but I bet it's actually a surprisingly long list.

Players with appearances at a WC either as current (rare) or later or previous are small in number.  As for countries represented....  England, Scotland, RoI, Argentina, Norway, Australia, New Zealand; think that's it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:16:39
I stuck my £10 on Saudi Arabia with a £10 back, first bet with PP at 8/1 so nothing at all to lose for me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:19:57
Massimo Luongo is the only player at this WC who I can think of whose played for the Town.  Have I missed anyone  :hmmm:
What about if you include non playing managers/coaches etc too?

I will start with Nestor Lorenzo assistant manager with Columbia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:31:24
For the first time in a while I think the England squad are quite likeable. Southgate appears to be quite a calm influence while encouraging the younger players. I'm just happy to go into a tournament with none of the golden generation who were just shit on the international stage. really glad Southgate got rid of Rooney. There's not the stench of failure around the squad. There's a lot less "circus" around the team now with no Rooney, Beckham etc.
I don't think we'll do well but it will be invaluable experience for most of the squad who will have other tournaments in them. Most people wold have picked a similar squad so I don't know what more Southgate could do.
   


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:35:49
What about if you include non playing managers/coaches etc too?

I will start with Nestor Lorenzo assistant manager with Columbia.

Smeeton's 4th Rule states that televised domestic games should contain an STFC link, either in players, dug out, or com box/punditry, or ref if it's Simon Hooper.

It can apply to WC's although obviously more difficult. Nestor, as when he was cone carrying for Pekerman at Argentina always welcome.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:40:20
For the first time in a while I think the England squad are quite likeable. Southgate appears to be quite a calm influence while encouraging the younger players. I'm just happy to go into a tournament with none of the golden generation who were just shit on the international stage. really glad Southgate got rid of Rooney. There's not the stench of failure around the squad. There's a lot less "circus" around the team now with no Rooney, Beckham etc.
I don't think we'll do well but it will be invaluable experience for most of the squad who will have other tournaments in them. Most people wold have picked a similar squad so I don't know what more Southgate could do.
   
This.

Southgate seems to treat the players properly as people and not pamper them and the team spirit of the young uns is pretty spot on, and the avergae age of the team is so low that even if they fail badly this time they will almost all still be in the squad for the next tournament with that little extra experience behind them.

I don't think there is any chance we will win but we could ruffle a few feathers and not roll over to some of the "supposedly inferior" teams as England have done in the past so often.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:42:00
Smeeton's 4th Rule states that televised domestic games should contain an STFC link, either in players, dug out, or com box/punditry, or ref if it's Simon Hooper.

It can apply to WC's although obviously more difficult. Nestor, as when he was cone carrying for Pekerman at Argentina always welcome.
I have had a look through the backroom staff and cannot see another Swindon link at all, Bad Smith just failed to make the cut for the Aussies too apparently.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:43:31
Anyone going?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 12:46:46
Anyone going?  :sherlock:
The Flash often does a few England away WC games, not sure if hes going this time though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 14:03:04
If The Flash is popping over, maybe he could ask the 'Orel Butchers' to give us back the Town flag they 'borrowed' in Marseille in 2016!   :)

(http://cs4.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2016/06/13/1/146577192818774002.jpg)

 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:23:55
Saudi Arabia at 9/1 are worth a little punt - unless Putin has found a new magic drug to transform plodders into footballers.

Like a reverse Flitcroft, really.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:25:27
2-0 russia


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:27:52
Bad news for Reg:

A prominent Russian MP has been heavily criticised after urging women not to have sex with foreign men during the World Cup.

Communist Party MP Tamara Pletnyova told a Moscow Radio station that she was "not a nationalist" but believed Russian women should avoid sex with people "of a different race" because "their children suffer".


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:36:50
Robbie Williams appears to be morphing into Morrisey.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:49:09
Robbie Williams appears to be morphing into Morrisey.
Nah, he's always been a twat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:54:10
Bad news for Reg:

A prominent Russian MP has been heavily criticised after urging women not to have sex with foreign men during the World Cup.

Communist Party MP Tamara Pletnyova told a Moscow Radio station that she was "not a nationalist" but believed Russian women should avoid sex with people "of a different race" because "their children suffer".

I know the average racist can get a bit technical, but ethnic Russians are descended from the Rus, Viking traders, who entered what is now Russia, parts of Ukraine and Belarus, by long boat and settled. So technically Northern Europeans, don't think they'd have a problem with a Saxon like me.  :)

Southern slavs like Bulgars are a bit different, something Turkic, of the Steppe about them. Of course there are millions of these in Russia... I like it in the women, hint of the exotic... :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 15:57:51
Nah, he's always been a twat

Could still be the best performance by and Englishman throughout the tournament!  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 16:13:01
Is Andy Townsend on the commentary team for ITV. Please say heís not.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 16:18:26
Is Andy Townsend on the commentary team for ITV. Please say heís not.

Dunno, its a predicatively bad Tyldesley/Hoddle combo this afternoon.....

Fuck me Saudi Arabia are shit at the back!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 16:44:09
Now we can see why Saudi Arabia were such a big price. At the back they are woeful.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 17:03:32
Now we can see why Saudi Arabia were such a big price. At the back they are woeful.

They remind me of us from a few seasons back, trying to play out from the back without the personnel with the footballing ability to actually do so!

I am tempted to have a tickle for a draw at 25/1 as Russia look equally shit and won't be able to keep up the pressing for the whole game, plus the Saudi's cannot be that shit in the second half.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 17:21:35
They remind me of us from a few seasons back, trying to play out from the back without the personnel with the footballing ability to actually do so!

I am tempted to have a tickle for a draw at 25/1 as Russia look equally shit and won't be able to keep up the pressing for the whole game, plus the Saudi's cannot be that shit in the second half.
That's exactly what I was thinking, town under Williams. Fucking useless at the back and so bloody slow and ponderous moving the ball forward.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 17:28:02
That's exactly what I was thinking, town under Williams. Fucking useless at the back and so bloody slow and ponderous moving the ball forward.

My thoughts too.

Loads of passing getting no where ...lose the ball cheap...2 zip down and go to ratshit.

Russia are pretty poor too...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 17:44:32
Pretty impressed by the ref. Seems to have got everything spot in.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 17:57:45
They remind me of us from a few seasons back, trying to play out from the back without the personnel with the footballing ability to actually do so!

That's exactly what I was thinking, town under Williams. Fucking useless at the back and so bloody slow and ponderous moving the ball forward.

Both of these, I said exactly the same thing to Adje.

I wish Swindon had a target man like Dzyuba.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 18:03:21
Early on I thought the Saudis could at least draw, right up to the 2nd goal!

Why the hell they did not play the ball on the ground to a pacey striker at every opportunity when he was up against a 6 foot 2 very near 39 year old with the pace of a slow puncture and turning circle of the QE2 is beyond me.

Russia very deserved winner and this could well give them the momentum now to have a good tournament.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 18:06:43
Two beautiful goals at the end. How many more times are they going to mention Salah on itv?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 19:32:49
As above. Dog turd game, livened up by some really good goals. Reminded me of a mid table L1 game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 14, 2018, 19:39:26
Some cracking predictions in this thread so far.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, June 15, 2018, 08:42:52
Saudi Arabia at 9/1 are worth a little punt.

Quoted for posterity


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, June 15, 2018, 11:19:19
2-0 russia

i clearly meant half time score...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 12:42:52
I expect Uruguay to win today with goals in the match. Uruguay and over 2.5 goals maybe worth a nibble.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 15, 2018, 12:46:59
Uruguay have a superb defensive record so with that and Salah being on the bench Iím on Uruguay to win to nil. Iíve doubled that up with a Morocco win.

On a side note, working from home is awesome for next couple of weeks


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, June 15, 2018, 13:21:41
England to make it out of the group.
Beat Poland in last 16
Beat the Germans on penalties (Yeah, I know right?!) in the quarter-finals
Beat Argentina in the semi-final

England vs Brazil final (50/1 odds)

Vardy last minute winner, England win 1-0.

Fuck yeah!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 13:22:40
Funny looking ground isn't it....

And WTF is going on with Jonathan Pearces pronunciations?

and just not noticed that a 'goal' didn't actually go into the net!  :doh: :hmmm:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 15, 2018, 13:27:24
Funny looking ground isn't it....


 :)

https://twitter.com/adventurebaby/status/1007600091769769985?s=21


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, June 15, 2018, 13:31:26
Suarez is not looking very sharp. However his teeth have been ground to a razor sharp edge with a dental laser cutter. Word has it that although the Egypt team are predominantly Muslim theyíre all wearing crucifixes and have eaten a pallet load of garlic to neutralise the threat from Suarez.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 15, 2018, 14:12:03
 Ex BPV and Spireites now Wigan, Sam Morsy comes on for Egypt. Born in Wolverhampton.   Sam had a played 3 lost 3 record, v TOwn for Spireites.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 14:16:18
Cannot see Suarez lasting 90 minutes, whether that is substituted or red card we shall see.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, June 15, 2018, 16:24:28
And WTF is going on with Jonathan Pearces pronunciations?

Worst commentator ever. I can't watch a game with him commentating.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, June 15, 2018, 16:44:44
There seems to be a lot of indeterminate, slightly annoying background noise going on in the Iran v Morocco game (apart from the commentary). Has the wonderful vuvuzela made a welcome come back? I do hope so as they really add to the atmosphere and are not in the slightest bit annoying.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 15, 2018, 16:56:59
Worst commentator ever. I can't watch a game with him commentating.

I remember Channel 5 having an England qualifying game (Poland Away?) with him commentating.

In the end I watched the TV on mute & listened to the Radio, the problem with the radio was that it was a few seconds ahead.

He's a useless commentator, not helped by being a shitheads fan


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 17:14:52
There seems to be a lot of indeterminate, slightly annoying background noise going on in the Iran v Morocco game (apart from the commentary). Has the wonderful vuvuzela made a welcome come back? I do hope so as they really add to the atmosphere and are not in the slightest bit annoying.

To be fair you may not be used to it, as a Swindon fan you are probably used to being sat among supporters just calling all their players a useless wanker!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 15, 2018, 17:32:17
England to make it out of the group.
Beat Poland in last 16
Beat the Germans on penalties (Yeah, I know right?!) in the quarter-finals
Beat Argentina in the semi-final

England vs Brazil final (50/1 odds)

Vardy last minute winner, England win 1-0.

Fuck yeah!

Obviously written in Elon Musks space car whilst banging Stormy Daniels.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Friday, June 15, 2018, 17:38:23
There seems to be a lot of indeterminate, slightly annoying background noise going on in the Iran v Morocco game (apart from the commentary). Has the wonderful vuvuzela made a welcome come back? I do hope so as they really add to the atmosphere and are not in the slightest bit annoying.

Hopefully they are giving these out to the few that do not own their own:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhaleika


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Friday, June 15, 2018, 18:45:01
This could well become the World Cup of set piece goals. Been one in every match so far hasn't there?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 18:46:35
Well the last couple of games have been a bit disappointing but hopefully Spain v Portugal will live up to the hype.

Pepe and Ramos bookings as well as Isco and Ronaldo goals is my inkling.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:01:31
What was Nacho thinking?!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:08:21
Ronaldo has obviously taken onboard the training from Tom Daly.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:16:48
What was Nacho thinking?!

Heís suffering from a dip in form.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:17:39
I have a 100/1 bet on Ronaldo and Isco to score and Pepe and Busquets to be booked.

2/4 so far


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:26:03
good game this, Spain in control...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:27:35
I have a 100/1 bet on Ronaldo and Isco to score and Pepe and Busquets to be booked.

2/4 so far

Looks promising, so far. You could be on to something.  :)

Lots of players on the pitch who Iíve disliked for years (Ramos, Buscuets, Costa, Pepe, Ronaldo) but itís a cracking game.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:44:34
Dear gea looking like Phil Smith. Why wasn't the penalty referred to vr?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:49:27
RCC would have been embarrassed by that.

good game though. Spain ropey down their left on the counter, but were probably slightly the better team.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:50:39
I have honestly no idea who will win this World Cup, but I don't think it will be Spain (famous last words)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 19:55:45
It definitely WON'T be England..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:02:19
It definitely WON'T be England..

You never know


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:04:08
Exactly...  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:13:39
What an incredible hit that was


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:14:46
Heís suffering from a dip in form.

A crisp strike there!  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:15:15
 You can see the influence of PB and Allardyce on Hierro's Spain, hoof up to Costa for the first, set play for the second.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:22:30
I'd forgotten how much I dislike Portugal. Viva Espana!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:36:21
I'd forgotten how much I dislike Portugal. Viva Espana!
100%


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:44:49
Fucking hell what a game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:47:08
Messi is going to have to put a shift in against Iceland tomorrow, after this.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:53:13
The true hero's were the BBC commentators who managed to masturbate vigorously for the whole 90 minutes...

The one worry for Portugal must be keeping him fit, he did very little running and still got cramp, that would do our unfit bastards proud.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:54:59
Cracking game.

Although Messi could score a hattrick of own goals tomorrow and I'd still rather watch him.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 15, 2018, 20:57:33
About time he performed at the world cup


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 21:00:26
Best World Cup Match for ages. Say what you want about Ronaldo, 51 career hat tricks is absolutely insane!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 21:10:52
Best World Cup Match for ages. Say what you want about Ronaldo, 51 career hat tricks is absolutely insane!

Oh he's brilliant. He'd have to be to be the 2nd best player in the world.


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 15, 2018, 21:17:57
Best World Cup Match for ages. Say what you want about Ronaldo, 51 career hat tricks is absolutely insane!
It's pretty good although Messi is closing quickly only 5 fewer and in 160 odd fewer games.... Plus he's there years younger (which I didn't know).


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 15, 2018, 21:32:03
We are spoiled to have both Messi and Ronaldo absolutely breaking records.

I donít think weíll be seeing talent like them for some time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 15, 2018, 21:43:26
True definition of a one man team. Even we'd Muller Portugal if he wasn't playing. Good game though, I was mainly surprised Sergio went 90 minutes without cheating. That must be a first.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 01:55:15
We are spoiled to have both Messi and Ronaldo absolutely breaking records.

I donít think weíll be seeing talent like them for some time.

This is true... CR might be an absolute cock, but he has pushed the bar up to what is achievable. Sometimes we forget that this is a game we invented, and respect for the opposition is integral.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 02:05:29
Everyone is wanking over CR7's hattrick. No doubt it was great but Costa's controlled half volley on the rise was the goal of the match. Sublime, purely because those attempts easily go miles wide/high or high and wide 9 out of 10 times. Struck like a Nadal towering down on an aggressive slice with control and precision, yet still retaining power.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 07:00:00
Everyone is wanking over CR7's hattrick. No doubt it was great but Costa's controlled half volley on the rise was the goal of the match. Sublime, purely because those attempts easily go miles wide/high or high and wide 9 out of 10 times. Struck like a Nadal towering down on an aggressive slice with control and precision, yet still retaining power.

I watched the match, and have just rewatched the highlights, and costa scored a driven shot from Just inside the box and a two yard tap in. Do you mean Nacho?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: mexico red on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 07:08:48
The true hero's were the BBC commentators who managed to masturbate vigorously for the whole 90 minutes...

The one worry for Portugal must be keeping him fit, he did very little running and still got cramp, that would do our unfit bastards proud.

Spanish tv post match showed ronaldo grin at his teammate in a ďwatch thisĒ kind of way and hit the deck with cramp. 100%  play acting


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 08:35:41
His legs have gone. He only ran about 100 metres the whole game, and they were for celebrations. Two of the goals were set pieces, and the other he was stood still goal hanging.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 09:09:05
His legs have gone. He only ran about 100 metres the whole game, and they were for celebrations. Two of the goals were set pieces, and the other he was stood still goal hanging.
That's the spirit


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 09:47:20
Happy birthday to me. 4 World Cup games!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 09:47:38
Shouldn't stop a professional game for cramp, anyway. If you have cramp, it's a lack of conditioning, not an injury. Unless you're faking cramp, then it's not even that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:10:54
These French players are a bunch of diving sods


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:13:07
'Clear and obvious'

Hmmm


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:17:50
I was so close to betting on Griezmann and Jedinak to both score, oh well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:29:15
I'd allow mooy to play for town. The Aussies have certainly put a shift in.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:42:05
They need to get VAR right if only to shut Mark Lawrenson up.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 12:50:17
They need to get VAR right if only to shut Mark Lawrenson up.
He's a scummer


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 13:08:41
He's a scummer

Ah, but when a local TV pundit he did give all of the goal of the month awards for the 92/93 season to town players.
Much to the annoyance of some HTV viewers.

I think he used to run a pub in the area at the time which was popular with the squad.....

Don't mind his downbeat style of commentary. "Dislocated shoelace". Classic.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Family at War on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 13:24:19
Had a pub in village just outside Faringdon


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 13:50:22
Nice returns on 2-1 to France (15/2) as well as Griezmann to score first and 2-1 (22/1)

Hopefully another 2-1 in the Argentina game as well as Messi to score first and 2-1 for some more Betfair free cash in the pot.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 14:02:56
The media seems be turning this into the Ronaldo v Messi contest. How loathsome


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 14:08:06
Lets see how many times the word 'Genius' can be abused.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 14:36:32
The media seems be turning this into the Ronaldo v Messi contest.

Newsflash: They've been doing it for about a decade.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 15:56:00
Absolute banger of an effort from Iceland there.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 15:58:05
Had a pub in village just outside Faringdon

Eagle at Little Coxwell...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, June 16, 2018, 16:22:48
Eagle at Little Coxwell...

Did he have a signed photo of Robin Friday hanging on the wall?  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Combe Up on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 12:52:59
I love Lawro's sarcasm.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 18:36:36
I enjoyed Mexico's win


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 20:13:17
I enjoyed Mexico's win
agree it was a great game, Mexico should have scored more, the ITV commentary team have got all upset because the Swiss have scored, the brazilian wankfest has been put on hold


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 21:35:50
I enjoyed Mexico's win

I did apart from the moronic commentators using hernandez's nickname as many times as possible.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 22:12:59
Iím enjoying this tournament a lot more than previous years. Itís good to see the fancied nations struggling to beat the lesser sides. It gives me hope England could get a few decent results.

Looking forward to tomorrow now, Southgate hasnít put a foot wrong yet and even the press donít seem as keen to rip into players before a ball has been kicked as much as usual. I think a lot of that is down to Southgate making all 23 of the squad accessible to the press and letting them ask what they wish.
Itís nice to know we will have a set way of playing tomorrow, refreshing after the shambles of previous years


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 22:13:58
The Brazilian love in does my nut in.  As Danny Baker tweeted

'For all my life broadcasters/media have fawned, swooned and grovelled at the very mention of Brazil. For the first half of my life it was warranted. These days young folk must be so confused. #AnotherAveragePerformance'

It just made me realise that at 47 years old I don't think Ive actually lived through a genuinely thrilling Brazil team (to be fair in '74 I was 3, I had other interests)  A load of  superb players, but never a great 'team'.  An in the meantime the media continues to wank their cocks off because once they were good.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 22:27:39
Many would argue Ď82.

Brazil are my prediction to win the World Cup. Mostly in the hope that it doesnít happen.

The reality is that itís up for grabs this year.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, June 17, 2018, 22:36:52
Many would also argue that Im just a grumpy shitbag.

And who am I to argue.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: mexico red on Monday, June 18, 2018, 07:24:47
Well I have a hangover. Fucking magic


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 18, 2018, 07:29:17
:)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 08:25:54
Well I have a hangover. Fucking magic

Cant be that bad. Otherwise the message would read       kjlkjfoisfho;aehfefne/kf/sjklf :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 18, 2018, 08:36:20
Well, Iím watching the game tonight in the same bar in Kefalonia as the one I watched the Preston play off final in.

Sorry guys, weíre toast!

On a separate note, had an interesting mountain drive yesterday when the brakes failed. Grandson in the back, screaming mum in the front, and me, the swearing driver attempting to stop the heap of shit.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 18, 2018, 08:49:37
Holy fucksitcks. How did you manage it, gears + handbreak?



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 18, 2018, 08:54:39
I was going downhill at the time and tried to slow down a bit when I hit the brakes they just went to the floor and did nothing. Roared down to 2nd and pulling on the handbrake when, luckily, the descent levelled out and I managed to stop the thing. A Fiat Doblo. Got an exchange one and, fuck me, the engine management system warning light came on. They tried fobbing me off about the poor quality petrol was Ďprobablyí the cause.

Am waiting for a 2nd replacement.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 18, 2018, 09:01:54
Jesus, what company is that ?!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 10:02:05
Kostas Kwality Kars


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 18, 2018, 10:09:27
Jesus, what company is that ?!
CBR Cars. Iíve used them a couple of times before with no problems.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Munichred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 11:40:18
I'll be watching in the Seehaus Biergarten in Munich. The Germans do public viewing quite well. Wish I'd have been there for the Mexico game yesterday, the Schadenfreude would have been so sweet. I can well remember the hundreds of smarmy smiles and laughter when Lampard's disallowed goal in 2010 was replayed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, June 18, 2018, 11:42:02
CBR Cars. Iíve used them a couple of times before with no problems.

Does that stand for Crocked Beyond Repair ?   

Seriously, though, glad you all escaped unharmed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 18, 2018, 11:48:57
CBR Cars. Iíve used them a couple of times before with no problems.

Probably the last time too I'd wager.

Though, I think all rental firms are a bit crap one way or another, a lack of brakes is probably the top of the list!
---
OT:

Come on Panama, Sweden and England.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, June 18, 2018, 12:09:19
When could (although definitely not if we continue to play like a shite Luke Williams team) could England meet Germany?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 18, 2018, 12:31:53
When could (although definitely not if we continue to play like a shite Luke Williams team) could England meet Germany?

QF if one side tops their group and the other finishes second. If both win their groups (or both come second) then I believe it pushes that out to the final.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 18, 2018, 12:59:16
We're paired with group H in the last 16 so one of Senegal, Poland, Colombia or Japan if we get through.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 18, 2018, 15:38:20
Yes sorry, last 16 =/= quarter finals. We can play Germany in the QFs or final, but not Last 16 or semis.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Monday, June 18, 2018, 17:40:23
Many would argue ‘82.

Brazil are my prediction to win the World Cup. Mostly in the hope that it doesn’t happen.

The reality is that it’s up for grabs this year.

I would argue '82 for sure. But Danny Baker has it spot on. Brazil games are a chore with the bloody commentary.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 18, 2018, 17:58:21
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df_RUUHWsAU309t.jpg)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 18, 2018, 18:04:29
Many would argue Ď82.

Brazil are my prediction to win the World Cup. Mostly in the hope that it doesnít happen.

The reality is that itís up for grabs this year.

The last truly great Brazilian side was 1970.... the 58 and 62 vintages were also decent.   The 70 side coincided with colour TV occuring in the UK.... the first time that most people had seen the shirt.  It did have an impact on the collective British psyche.  For some reason Brazil then went in for a more prosaic European style.... it wasn't pretty. I saw them at Wembley in the mid 70's and the best bit was watching the warm up.  By 82 the cavaliers were back in vogue and the 82 vintage promised much but failed to deliver, so the roundheads got back in favour.  A couple more trophies were added by less than stellar teams playing limited football.

This present side looks like it is trying to play with style and Neymar is always fun.  The Swiss definitely got the running on VAR in opener, I suppose that FIFA HQ being in Switzerland was just coincidence.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, June 18, 2018, 18:18:15
Can't go anywhere at the moment without encountering boohooMAN on billboards.

Back to the day job this evening.

No red cards or goalless games in the tournament so far.

Will it be  :headhurts: or  :beers: or maybe  :zzz:

Good luck to them anyway.







Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 19:03:03
Come on England


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 18, 2018, 19:03:57
5 mins in and already 2 'fucking hells' at Sterling.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, June 18, 2018, 19:09:19
Boom
Up and running

Oh
Normal service resumed
 ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 19:42:19
Misses are looking ominous


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 18, 2018, 19:49:32
Undecided on their penalty, but how the fuck were we not given one when Kane was rugby tackled in their box?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:09:01
Can Tunisia join the six nations?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:13:45
There will be another penalty in this game (a VAR one)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:25:26
There will be another penalty in this game (a VAR one)

Won't be for England,  should have had 2 already.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:34:39
Same shit, different year


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:36:51
Just a shit second half.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:45:08
More like 70 mins of shitness


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:47:14
More like 70 mins of shitness
it is hot over there didn't you know ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:48:16
I imagine that's annoyed you.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:48:24
Always new it was coming  ;)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:52:15
I imagine that's annoyed you.
not annoyed me one bit, but is all i'm hearing


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:53:05
phew


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:54:26
More aimed at redbuck.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:55:07
More aimed at redbuck.
:doh:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:55:42
Thank fuck for that and for harry kane. Our finishing was truly woeful apart from kane. Sterling was shite. Alle was shite. We looked a lot better when the subs came on.
Tunisia deserved fuck all.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:56:31
Started well, ended well.
So important to get a win in the first game.

Need a midfield talisman to take the game by the scruff of the neck though.

Thank fuck for that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:56:49
Nice one Harry


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:57:23
Camel for Abdul.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:57:30
And that save from the Tunisian keeper when we got our first was excellent.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 18, 2018, 20:58:06
The 2nd half was a case of playing against a team with 10 men behind the ball. It would have been a very different game had at least one of those blatant penalties on Kane been given.

I thought we looked good going forward at times, but I'm not sure about us at the back. Better teams will punish us. A bit toothless in front of goal as well. Regardless, I quite enjoyed that.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:01:49
The 2nd half was a case of playing against a team with 10 men behind the ball. It would have been a very different game had at least one of those blatant penalties on Kane been given.

I thought we looked good going forward at times, but I'm not sure about us at the back. Better teams will punish us. A bit toothless in front of goal as well. Regardless, I quite enjoyed that.



I quite enjoyed that. Fuckng sadist!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:07:21
Ha. I think it's the relief at the end.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:08:26
I truly hope that we play differently when we are up against a team who can play football. The problem we face as do other teams like England is that every Tunisia type opponent see us as their World Cup Final. We looked Williamsesque for most of the game and our finishing looked rushed. As for the Ďofficialsí on field and the VAR team in the back office what game were they officiating?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:09:06
Ha. I think it's the relief at the end.
Agree. Painful following England.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:09:47
If Sterling is an international footballer, then my dreams of being the worlds best pole dancer are intact.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:22:55
If Sterling is an international footballer, then my dreams of being the worlds best pole dancer are intact.
yep, Rashford should have started


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:26:59
If Sterling is an international footballer, then my dreams of being the worlds best pole dancer are intact.

I agree. Pointless waste of a shirt. Lingard and Alli weren't up to much either.

yep, Rashford should have started

+1


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:28:50
If Sterling is an international footballer, then my dreams of being the worlds best pole dancer are intact.

Completely ageee about the first point. Second one, well, Iím sure you know the answer to that.

Dump Sterling in the Volga and get Rashford and Loftus-Cheek into the side.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:29:44
Who makes the decision as to whether the VAR is used? Is it the referee?  Two blatant penalties and it wasn't used.

Started well and then went off the boil.  Tunisia clearly happy with a point, but I always felt we would score again though and up popped Harry Kane.

Rashford to start instead of Sterling on Sunday and I'd like to see Loftus-Cheek start as well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:31:32
 VAR is used all the time. If the people in the VAR office see something they alert the ref. Not sure how though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:31:41
We looked Williamsesque for most of the game and our finishing looked rushed.

I thought the exact same thing at times in the 2nd half. Again, though, I think that's because we were playing a team with 11 men behind the ball (in the 2nd half). We looked more potent going forward in the 1st half, albeit with the wasteful finishing. Hopefully nerves will settle in that regard.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:34:38
That was hard to watch mainly due to Tunisia doing everything they could simply to stop us winning. Don't remember them doing anything second half which I found strange since they looked a decent passing side at times in the first. Still they nearly got their point.

This World Cup has got 'played well but exited in the quarters due to controversial circumstances/penalties' written all over it. Loving the tournament though.

I like Southgate''s England. Never thought I'd type that when he was first appointed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:35:29
VAR is used all the time. If the people in the VAR office see something they alert the ref. Not sure how though.

For tonightís game, they were releasing a homing pigeon each time.  The three of them should be arriving at the stadium in about four hours time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:36:26
WE WON THOUGH:-

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:37:34
 That was a decent showing by our lads.... that's what the fans want to see a bit of effort, and looking like they care.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:46:15
5 mins in and already 2 'fucking hells' at Sterling.....

Just got in from the pub and agree entirely. If he were never to pull on an England shirt again it would be too soon.

Not convinced that Southgate has the necessary awareness of how to change the game either as it was crying out for a different approach after thirty minutes.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:46:42
That was a decent showing by our lads.... that's what the fans want to see a bit of effort, and looking like they care.

I'm framing that and sticking it in the first town match day thread  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:47:00
I thought the exact same thing at times in the 2nd half. Again, though, I think that's because we were playing a team with 11 men behind the ball (in the 2nd half). We looked more potent going forward in the 1st half, albeit with the wasteful finishing. Hopefully nerves will settle in that regard.
Concur.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 18, 2018, 21:50:38
Completely ageee about the first point. Second one, well, Iím sure you know the answer to that.

Dump Sterling in the Volga and get Rashford and Loftus-Cheek into the side.

My point exactly :)  Tried hard, can't fault the effort, result good, But oh so frustrating fpr large parts. Kane, Trippier, Maguire I thought were good. Sterling. Lingard, and Ali appalling. Footballs 80% effort, 19% decision making, and 1% skill. We can do the first and last, but rarely do the middle bit right.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 18, 2018, 22:03:51
Never seen so many mis kicks in front of goal in the first half. Fuck8ng professionals, me hairy arse.

Sterling. Just fuck off.

JD and coke forever!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bennett on Monday, June 18, 2018, 22:09:03
Maguire looked good as he strode out of defence with the ball.
Given that he's the "least footballing" of our back three, you do have to wonder why it took til the last 5 for Walker to start getting forwards and interchanging with Trippier.

Ashley Young looked ok, until he got the chance to cross, when he went back onto his right foot.

Alli, Sterling and Lingard were all poor


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Monday, June 18, 2018, 22:38:45
Thought it was, in some ways, a very good England performance.  Played the ball around well, long and short, in the first half.  Chances missed, certainly but Kane was as deadly as any with two goals from two shots.  

Second half looked interesting to start with.  We pressed really high and I thought we might pressurise a crucial mistake.  As they settled it became a game ideally to find the killer pass but Delle Ali was already fading. We started to lack creativity and were becoming one-paced.  The substitutions were correctly made - if not quite promptly enough.  It didn't matter in the end.

On the other hand I give a great deal of credit to Tunisia.   You can deserve a point regardless of your contribution to shots and corners, possession and entertainment.  That's how the game is when a weaker team is up against a stronger one.  I felt that the BBC TV team could have accommodated a non English perspective.  Don't know any Tunisians myself but there must be some Arab/north African players available - Hameur Bouazza or Sofiane Zaboooooouuuuub even ;) if Riyad Mahrez comes in a bit pricey now.

England did overcome the defence-focussed Tunisians.  Other bigger names have already struggled similarly and some with less success.  C'mon Ingerland.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, June 18, 2018, 22:39:52
Too many half chats in the squad for starters.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 07:41:29
Too many half chats in the squad for starters.
All English born and bred. Very old school comment.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 08:18:11
Too many half chats in the squad for starters.

I had to Google that.

Fuckin' hell, what a cunt you are.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 08:37:03
 ???


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 08:47:54

All credit to Southgate for playing Sterling.
At least with that little shit in the team it kept the mossies away from the rest of the team.

Would be nice if some of these millionaire footballers could make contact with the ball occasionally in front of goal but a win is a win.
Looks like we will have more than 3 games at this WC.
Come on Engerland.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 08:54:59
There was one positive - you could hardly hear the 'england band'.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:00:46
Decent performance in general, good movement and created plenty of opportunities.

Didnít see anything to suggest we will beat one of the big boys but thatís fine as wouldnít meet one until the QFís


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:11:31
Possession compared to previous England squads is much improved. Convert more of those chances and we would have mullered them


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Uncletrunx on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:15:31
For the first time in a long time, watching England felt positive.

Yes, there's still work needed, the team is clearly not the finished article yet but given the circumstances they did very well.

I get the feeling that Tunisia saw an inexperienced team against them and applied every one of the dark arts; from the penalty area wrestling to delaying every England free kick (standing over the ball, insisting it be moved back 2 yards) and the array of niggly fouls, it looked very much like they wanted to get England down to 10 men and kill the game. Full credit to England for avoiding frustration and finally getting their reward.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:17:05
We don't normally win games like that. Some of the comments generally have been ridiculous - "same old shit", "too slow" etc. Listening to Keown on the comms was like sitting in the Arkells with the FORWARD brigade.

The second they got the pen, Tunisia (the best team in Africa) sat in, kicked, dived and moaned and made it very hard for us. We still created enough chances to win the game, and did win the game.

Only blot on the copybook is finishing.

RLC looks head and shoulders above Alli in this set up. I'd start him and Rashford for Sterling against Panama.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:29:13
I had to Google that.

Fuckin' hell, what a cunt you are.

+1 (on both points!)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 09:39:12
We don't normally win games like that. Some of the comments generally have been ridiculous - "same old shit", "too slow" etc. Listening to Keown on the comms was like sitting in the Arkells with the FORWARD brigade.

The second they got the pen, Tunisia (the best team in Africa) sat in, kicked, dived and moaned and made it very hard for us. We still created enough chances to win the game, and did win the game.

Only blot on the copybook is finishing.

RLC looks head and shoulders above Alli in this set up. I'd start him and Rashford for Sterling against Panama.

Generally agree with that, how hot was it as we looked totally knackered after about 50 minutes?

Tunisia did what they planned to do (disrupt and time waste) very well, helped by a ref who seemed well out of his depth, although I don't understand why our players when an opposing player stands 3 yards from a free kick just doesn't take a quick one against them as that normally leads to a booking, we possibly need to get a bit more streetwise.

Sterling just looks out of his depth, very skillful player technically (at times) but with no football brain and just goes blind alleys and gives it away, rarely any end product. Rather exposes the myth that Pep has made him a better player, no he has just surrounded him with better players! We looked so much better when Rashford came on,

Fuck knows what was going on with Alli, looked injured for most of the game bar the first 15 minutes, if that's the case I would assess and see, be tempted to put RLC in as again we seemed better and more dynamic - plus still think Alli has got a red card in him if he plays all the games.

BTW Kane scored two good goals but apart from that he seemed to be rarely in the box when the ball was played in, not sure what was going on there?

Generally a typical England experience as a viewer, frustration and then relief....

 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Uncletrunx on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:03:39
I don't understand why our players when an opposing player stands 3 yards from a free kick just doesn't take a quick one against them as that normally leads to a booking


Because yesterday's ref would probably wave play on?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:04:58
Because yesterday's ref would probably wave play on?

And booked the England player for unsporting conduct.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:29:32
FWIW I enjoyed the match yesterday, I thought all the England players really wanted to win for each other and the relief showed.

There are no teams easy to beat at the WC finals they are all there on merit and I thought Tunisia offered very little but were hapy to defend in numbers and kick us at every opportunity which should have got us at least 1 penalty, whats the point of VAR if they miss as obvious a penalty as the first one on Kane?

We passed the ball well under very difficult conditions but a few players were not good enough for me.

Alli and Sterling should not start for us they are just nowhere near good enough I would much rather see Rashford and Loftus-Cheek, both players came on and the workrate went right up, Sterling and Alli are lazy and lacking bite in attack, the other player I would change would be Young, who impressed me in his last few England games but yesterday his final ball was woeful and his free kick late on was terrible. I think Rose is a better option.

The jury is still out on Lingaard too, I think there are better options than him.

Otherwise we did the job against a hard working very defensive side that in the past England would have struggled against, Kane did what he does best, 6 yard poacher.

Hopefully we will have a better ref for the rest of the tournament.

Bring on Panama Sunday.

All English born and bred. Very old school comment.
I also haven't heard anyone use that racist term in about 20 years, how very backwards.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:34:59
FWIW I enjoyed the match yesterday, I thought all the England players really wanted to win for each other and the relief showed.

There are no teams easy to beat at the WC finals they are all there on merit and I thought Tunisia offered very little but were hapy to defend in numbers and kick us at every opportunity which should have got us at least 1 penalty, whats the point of VAR if they miss as obvious a penalty as the first one on Kane?

We passed the ball well under very difficult conditions but a few players were not good enough for me.

Alli and Sterling should not start for us they are just nowhere near good enough I would much rather see Rashford and Loftus-Cheek, both players came on and the workrate went right up, Sterling and Alli are lazy and lacking bite in attack, the other player I would change would be Young, who impressed me in his last few England games but yesterday his final ball was woeful and his free kick late on was terrible. I think Rose is a better option.

The jury is still out on Lingaard too, I think there are better options than him.

Otherwise we did the job against a hard working very defensive side that in the past England would have struggled against, Kane did what he does best, 6 yard poacher.

Hopefully we will have a better ref for the rest of the tournament.

Bring on Panama Sunday.

I'd imagine unless there are injuries, fatigue etc, GS will stick with the same strategy, v Panama.  In the first 30 that we did well it was the running of Dele, Lingard and Sterling which caused them problems.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:37:53
Anyone else think that data Ben Youssef looked remarkably like the actor Alan Tudyk?

(http://1.fwcdn.pl/ph/10/41/31041/411575_1.1.jpg)

(https://e-s-tunis.com/images/news/2015/07/26/1437897621_img.jpg)



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 10:49:27
England's back 3 passed and recycled the ball quickly, particularly in comparison with Belgium.  Maguire played very well and committed Tunisian players when he drove forward with the ball.  Trippier and Henderson were excellent.  Would prefer Rose ahead of Young and Rashford ahead of Sterling.  I reckon Southgate will start with the starting XI vs Panama injuries permitting.  I haven't seen England play as well as they did in the first half in a long time.  


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 11:31:54
Anyone sporting a Panama hat on Sunday after the Fez yesterday?

When we play Belgium I will wear a waffle


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 11:32:17
England's back 3 passed and recycled the ball quickly, particularly in comparison with Belgium.  Maguire played very well and committed Tunisian players when he drove forward with the ball.  Trippier and Henderson were excellent.  Would prefer Rose ahead of Young and Rashford ahead of Sterling.  I reckon Southgate will start with the starting XI vs Panama injuries permitting.  I haven't seen England play as well as they did in the first half in a long time.  

Alli having a knock is a great excuse to "rest" him and play RLC. RLC is an absolute monster running at a deep back 5.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 12:16:22
The good thing is we've got 3 points on the board having played a cynical, horrible bunch of cheats and a useless ref / VAR. Another day, that could have been 5-0. There's plenty to work on but I think most people are pretty happy. Its good to play Panama next and try and build some momentum going into the Belgium game.
Agree about RLC and would put him ahead of Sterling - he's a unit and at full flow looks a real beast. Alli needs a big kick up the arse. Other than that would keep as is. 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 12:27:02
Think that's a little unfair re. Alli, looked brilliant until a minor injury, probably best to lay the blame at coaching staff in this instance, should have taken him off as soon as it became apparent he was no longer at 100%. 

I think one of the greatest strengths of this England squad is that we have very few 'stars' and there is a depth to every position, we could name a couple of different starting line-ups and few would argue that such and such should start ahead of so an so.

In that regard if any one player is less than 100%, subs already made permitting, we should make the  change early.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 12:30:43
Seen a lot of "Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Spain, France will batter this England team" type comments since the game.

Of the above teams only France got a win from their opening game.

None looked to have anything I'm particularly worried about.

This tournament is wide open.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 12:52:55
Seen a lot of "Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Spain, France will batter this England team" type comments since the game.

Of the above teams only France got a win from their opening game.

None looked to have anything I'm particularly worried about.

This tournament is wide open.

Never read too much into the first set of games at a major comp


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 12:57:01
Never read too much into the first set of games at a major comp

Indeed not...sometimes it takes a stinking opener to sort things out.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 13:00:33
Never read too much into the first set of games at a major comp

No, but we should (not definitely will) beat Panama. That would takes us through to a winnable last 16 game.

If we got to the quaters we will sort of be over-achieving.

Then lose to Brazil or Germany. Because they always make the quaters.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 13:18:41
First red card. :)
In a pub with a few excitable Columbians.
Will be fun if they score.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 13:29:38
If we got to the quaters we will sort of be over-achieving.

Then lose to Brazil or Germany. Because they always make the quaters.
Think you're mixing it up with the next one, that's in Quatar :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 13:41:03
Quate!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 13:49:20
Think you're mixing it up with the next one, that's in Quatar :)

Rrrrrrrr!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 14:11:34
Looking forward to the Poland/Senegal game at 4.

Poland have a decent squad and have qualified for the last few tournaments with ease. Unfortunately they have been unable to repeat that form at the tournaments themselves. Were very unlucky to get knocked out of the Euros by Portugal 2 years ago and if Lewandowski is on form, I think they should be able to get out of the groups.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 14:19:46
Come on Senegal  :)

Sorry Chubbs, they're one of my four sweepstake teams.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 14:27:48
That Japanese goalkeper is fooling no one.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 16:46:01
1-0  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 17:07:40
I've got £10 on there being 2 or fewer 0-0s. Every opening goal is met with glee in my house.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 17:33:36
Never read too much into the first set of games at a major comp

Of course a huge amount of people would have read whatever fits into their narrative if England had lost


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 18:29:10
Of course a huge amount of people would have read whatever fits into their narrative if England had lost

True, but you get classic cases like 2010... Swiss beat Spain in the opener, but then can't beat Honduras so fail to qualify... Spain go on to win it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, June 19, 2018, 20:45:24
The bbc dribble fest over Salah is tiresome


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 10:00:38
Portugal v Morocco is a crunch game. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 10:29:22
Come on Senegal  :)

Sorry Chubbs, they're one of my four sweepstake teams.
Poland had a shocker as i feared.

The first Senegal goal was just bad luck and the second had a hint of controversy but that back pass was a shocker and what was Szczezny doing?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Munichred on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 12:32:38
There's a joke going round here in Germany, roughly translated:

In the Junior school class the children are asked by their teacher what their father does to earn his Brot. One by one they say baker, bricklayer, accountant etc. Just one little boy left, Joachim. Quietly he explains his father does naked pole dancing in a gay bar and if customer really likes him he will spend the night with him. At break time the teacher keeps Joachim back and asks if what he said was true. Joachim sniffles: actually he plays in the Germany football team but it would have been too embarrassing to admit it. 

The Germans can laugh at themselves, a bit...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 13:06:54
Ronaldo scores again.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 14:53:00
Got to feel for Morocco. Out performed and out played Portugal.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:28:58
Argentina. Hmmm.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:45:35
Argentina. Hmmm.
fair play to Croatia, I like these so say big teams being turned over :smugfu: enjoying this world cup




Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:46:29
3.0 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:47:57
3.0 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:51:19
 :rofl2:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:00:56
Croatia are the real deal, they would have won the Euros if they hadnít of been mugged by Portugal


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:06:50
Croatia looked good.
Theyíve been knocking on the door for a while now but they seem the real deal now.

Thatís first goal was hilarious.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:26:00
Will take a good side to knock out Croatia.

Been telling a Messi fanboy all day that Argentina were screwed this evening. Rakitic, Modric and Brozovic against basically an ageing Mascherano was never going to end well. Add to that a ropey defence and shocking keeper and you end up with a top heavy shitheap of a team.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:27:46
Croatia looked good.
Theyíve been knocking on the door for a while now but they seem the real deal now.

Thatís first goal was hilarious.

Croatia mid field axis of Modric and Rakitic is arguably the best in this tournament. There's also some very tidy back up, in the likes of Mateo Kovacic.   

Good to see some old skool Argie kicking, but the Croats aren't averse to a bit x rated tackling themselves. Sime Vrsaljko, plays for Atletico, and is right out of the Simeone skool of Argie bargy.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:35:48
Croatia mid field axis of Modric and Rakitic is arguably the best in this tournament. There's also some very tidy back up, in the likes of Mateo Kovacic.  

Good to see some old skool Argie kicking, but the Croats aren't averse to a bit x rated tackling themselves. Sime Vrsaljko, plays for Atletico, and is right out of the Simeone skool of Argie bargy.

Kind of homely feel to this game eh Plowman? A warm cosy Millitant Tendency meets Momentum feel about it then?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 21:44:06
Croatia will shoot themselves in the foot, with injuries and suspensions. I'll add retaliatory injuries to that, as other sides will have seen them now and kick them first for sure. Good side though with not much up front past the midfielders coming forward.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 22:04:35
Kind of homely feel to this game eh Plowman? A warm cosy Millitant Tendency meets Momentum feel about it then?

With those two it's more Military Junta meets Ustase....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DV Canio on Thursday, June 21, 2018, 22:22:20
Kind of homely feel to this game eh Plowman? A warm cosy Millitant Tendency meets Momentum feel about it then?

Reg isnít Plowman.

You can cease with it, now...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, June 22, 2018, 13:18:08
In a pub with a load of Brazilians.

A dusky beauty was going round hugging everyone before kick off.

I didn't get one.  :(

Come on Costa Rica.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:14:50
An hour into the Brazil v Costa Rica game and they've managed a grand total of 1 shot on target between them. Samba football, indeed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:18:38
An hour into the Brazil v Costa Rica game and they've managed a grand total of 1 shot on target between them. Samba football, indeed.

Cherno Samba football.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:35:01
I think Neymar is going to cry.  Itll be the best thing he's done in the tournament.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:36:51
Good use of VAR there, never a pen in a million years


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:37:08
I think that penalty being overturned is my highlight of the tournament so far.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:37:50
Dunno why its no yellow for him for diving though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:41:58
Fair play to the ref for changing the decision via VAR.

Brazil are ordinary.

No free spirits anymore.
Maybe because they all just play by numbers in the big European leagues now.

Late goal. Tough on Costa Rica.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:48:02
Pants. I have to turn the commentators down when Brazil play.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, June 22, 2018, 14:54:32
Yeah, they've just cum. 

Neymar does a pointless piece of skill against a knackered costa rican team and then scores a tap in.  Clearly we can rewrite it into a joyous celebration of free flowing football.  Brazil on ITV, the very worst combination for commentary.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 22, 2018, 15:24:16
Yeah, they've just cum. 

Neymar does a pointless piece of skill against a knackered costa rican team and then scores a tap in.  Clearly we can rewrite it into a joyous celebration of free flowing football.  Brazil on ITV, the very worst combination for commentary.

I imagine if we have a Portugal/Brazil final with Neymar and Ronaldo the commentary box would end up looking like this by the end...

(https://i.imgur.com/JQw5TgG.png)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 22, 2018, 15:56:25
The BBC commentators were practically in tears when we dicked Brazil 7-1 at the last World Cup.
Oh and Neymar is vastly overrated


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 22, 2018, 16:22:06
The BBC commentators were practically in tears when we dicked Brazil 7-1 at the last World Cup.

I don't think that's completely true. That game was era defining and if the commentators were being solemn then they were reacting to the atmosphere within the ground.

Even the German players, Schurrle aside, toned it down in the second half. Could and should have twisted that proverbial knife even more.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 22, 2018, 19:03:49
Mitro's on fire....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, June 22, 2018, 19:47:52
Mitro's on fire....

So is my back, between the shoulder blades....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 22, 2018, 20:09:02
Nice strike


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 22, 2018, 20:23:21
Nice wrestling throw.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 10:33:53
Pants. I have to turn the commentators down when Brazil play.

Was it that female commentator again?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 14:59:38
Frank Lampard on pundit duty.
Not overly concerned about getting Derby ready for pre season then.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 16:18:53
The 10 year old in goal for South Korea also qualifies for the dodgy haircut award.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 16:42:13
The 10 year old in goal for South Korea also qualifies for the dodgy haircut award.

Looks like a tranny


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 17:30:09
Can the ITV coimmentators fawn over Mexico any more than they currently are?

If you listened to them you would put your house on Mexico to win the tournament with ease.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 18:00:00
Can the ITV coimmentators fawn over Mexico any more than they currently are?

If you listened to them you would put your house on Mexico to win the tournament with ease.
:nod: who was the co commentator


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 18:16:41
:nod: who was the co commentator
TBH I never heard who it was, some cockney sparra, but it was laughable in his fawning, yes they beat Germany but FFS get a grip, the pundits post game put him in his place though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 18:23:21
Think it was Ian Dowie.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 18:31:07
Think it was Ian Dowie.
You could be right he did sound like an ugly bastard!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 19:31:09
Germany losing :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 19:50:16
It's worse than Euro2004. We are out, no chance in hell we score twice in the second half


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 19:54:39
Germany doing 'England simulator'?

fantastic


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 19:58:27
Sweden last beat Germany in 1978  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:03:38
 :crash:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:07:36
Sweden last beat Germany in 1978  :)
Kuss des Todes.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:41:08
Zee Germans are down to 10 men


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:50:17
Camped in the Swedish half. Awaits a late goal


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:50:49
Always happens


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:51:43
fucks sake


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 20:53:12
stupid free kick to give away


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, June 23, 2018, 23:58:50
Get in. Cracking strike by Kroos :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 07:54:36
I know it was late in the game but the 2 players in the wall seemed to take an age to try and close the free kick down.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 08:57:08
It's worse than Euro2004. We are out, no chance in hell we score twice in the second half

Ha


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 12:40:10
The BBC playing Joy Division for a pre match feature.
Where will it end.......

In a pub full of expectant England fans.
Shorts and trainers (no socks) is the uniform of choice.
Not for me though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:04:09
Panama a bit divey already


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:07:12
Lovely


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:20:31
Niggly fuckers, arenít they?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:20:38
Boom


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:22:26
Panama are a bigger bunch of cheating wankers than Tunisia. Panama are the international brentford


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:34:39
Boom

And repeat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:39:53
That's because they are shit


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:41:51
Odd way to defend corners


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:43:12
Is Wrestling the national sport in Panama?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:43:16
Gets the goal difference up  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:45:35
reckon we've got this one


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:46:32
Football is better when you mute the commentators


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:50:10
Yes, the excitable commentators are wearing very thin.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:50:24
Panama are just dispicable, they don't deserve to be at the WC. Fair play to England though...and the officials for penalizing Panama's bullshit...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:52:14
Yes, the excitable commentators are wearing very thin.

Getting far too carried away


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:53:53
If VAR becomes the norm then coaches / defenders will need to rethink the whole method of defending set pieces in the box.

Some of the grappling in this tournament has been crude to say the least.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:54:41
explaining to a bar of Dutch guys that the world cup finals is for the best teams, and the rubbish ones stay at home. I'm not sure I've hit the right note on Dutch  comedy yet


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:55:42
If VAR becomes the norm then coaches / defenders will need to rethink the whole method of defending set pieces in the box.

Some of the grappling in this tournament has been crude to say the least.

I'm glad, there is so much fouling in the box that goes unpunished at all levels


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:57:11
explaining to a bar of Dutch guys that the world cup finals is for the best teams, and the rubbish ones stay at home. I'm not sure I've hit the right note on Dutch  comedy yet

Yeah. Just wait until we get the 48 team finals!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 13:58:56
Yeah. Just wait until we get the 48 team finals!

Even crap like Wales might stand a chance of qualification


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 14:00:09
Even crap like Wales might stand a chance of qualification

Fuck off cunt.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 14:16:16
Thereís an opportunity here for Sterling to make up some lost ground but, so far, heís not taking it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 14:34:03
Crap


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 14:34:56
The fuckwits!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 14:50:56
Sterlings first touch has been shit.


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 15:01:40
Sterlings first touch has been shit.
His last one tends to be fairly shite as well..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 15:34:39
That's two decent performances with plenty of room for improvement. They've already done better than I thought they would. Happy days.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 16:37:51
Sterling just seems to be a modern day John Barnes i.e in the team purely based on his name and Club performances as far as I can make out. Utter, utter waste of space...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 16:48:10
ĎNail on headí:

https://twitter.com/jim_fletch/status/1007926703841333248?s=21


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 17:48:26
I quite like lawrenson.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 18:13:34
Sterlings first touch has been shit.

I'm applying to be a pro footballer. Sterling  first 30 minutes was one touch (a poor header on straight to the goalie. 2 fouls, and 2 offsides. I didnt even know he was playing until the 12th minute. Nerves maybe? But he's a waste of a position at the moment.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 20:04:03
England were good. Good enough to win the whole tournment? Who knows. Soft goal to concede. If people are not happy with sterling, who plays in his position?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 20:11:06
England were good. Good enough to win the whole tournment? Who knows. Soft goal to concede. If people are not happy with sterling, who plays in his position?

Rashford, for me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 20:30:55
Rashford, for me.
And me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 20:31:20
I'd still start him against Belgium and hope something happens to get his confidence up. If he's still a statue after 45 mins I'd bin him for Rashford.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 20:51:56
Poland have yet again been woeful,


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 21:04:29
Am I the only one that can see Southgate played Sterling to try get a confidence boost? Didnít happen so Rashford will start from here.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 21:08:34
Am I the only one that can see Southgate played Sterling to try get a confidence boost? Didnít happen so Rashford will start from here.

Oh absolutely, they're desperate for him to score and end his drought.. I agree, though, Rashford should/will get his chance..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 21:13:06
Am I the only one that can see Southgate played Sterling to try get a confidence boost? Didnít happen so Rashford will start from here.

No see 2 posts above...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 22:58:19
England were good. Good enough to win the whole tournment? Who knows. Soft goal to concede. If people are not happy with sterling, who plays in his position?
I can imagine Colombia ripping us apart if we have to face them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, June 24, 2018, 23:39:13
I can't see that to be honest


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:16:48
We beat a very average Panama FFS, the way the media are pushing this its only now going to end badly if idiots believe them....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:20:59
Sterling just seems to be a modern day John Barnes i.e in the team purely based on his name and Club performances as far as I can make out. Utter, utter waste of space...
I agree, hes rubbish for England, doesn't play anywhere near as well as he does for Man City, give Rashford game time.

We beat a very average Panama FFS, the way the media are pushing this its only now going to end badly if idiots believe them....
I agree, lets get back to not hyping them, I liked it like that, no extra pressure on the players.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:33:25
the press and some people's expectations have gone totally overboard after beating 2 poor sides.

Yes, getting out of the group is great. Yes, scoring 8 goals is great, but we need to have a reality check here. I think England have played well so far but against vastly inferior opposition.

A good run is not beyond us, but I think 1/4 finals realistically is the best we are going to do.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:45:17
the press and some people's expectations have gone totally overboard after beating 2 poor sides.

Yes, getting out of the group is great. Yes, scoring 8 goals is great, but we need to have a reality check here. I think England have played well so far but against vastly inferior opposition.

A good run is not beyond us, but I think 1/4 finals realistically is the best we are going to do.

The game v Belgium should be very interesting... a sort of local derby.  How do both approach it  :hmmm:

 Certainly Belgium have the players to bring the expectations back down to earth.... but will they be giving it full gas?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:48:21
The game v Belgium should be very interesting... a sort of local derby.  How do both approach it  :hmmm:

 Certainly Belgium have the players to bring the expectations back down to earth.... but will they be giving it full gas?

There is an argument to suggest finishing second in the group gives us an 'easier' route forwards.

Belgium is the acid test but it could be both sides going out to lose, although I am sure in professional sport this isn't really likely?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 25, 2018, 09:48:56
No side looks outstanding in the tournament, could go any way


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, June 25, 2018, 10:33:16
No side looks outstanding in the tournament, could go any way

Yet. One team will rise above the rest, just hope it is England.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 25, 2018, 11:10:24
The game v Belgium should be very interesting... a sort of local derby.  How do both approach it  :hmmm:

 Certainly Belgium have the players to bring the expectations back down to earth.... but will they be giving it full gas?
One of the pundits (can't remember who but could well have been Keano as it's the sort of thing he would say) said Southgate should just pick his best XI and play to win. I agree with this - too much overthinking goes on these days


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, June 25, 2018, 13:33:11
One of the pundits (can't remember who but could well have been Keano as it's the sort of thing he would say) said Southgate should just pick his best XI and play to win. I agree with this - too much overthinking goes on these days

I can see why GS might want to rest players and give some of the benchers a run out but this risks killing out momentum.
I doubt Kane would want to sit out the Belgium game, not with the Golden Boot in his sights.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 13:41:05
I can see why GS might want to rest players and give some of the benchers a run out but this risks killing out momentum.
I doubt Kane would want to sit out the Belgium game, not with the Golden Boot in his sights.

They have played Monday, Sunday, Thursday which is much the same as a normal league programme,  its hardly taxing and you don't tend to see managers resting players over an, at best 7 game season!

I would change out Sterling for (just about anyone really but in reality Rashford) just to see if this works better and that's probably about it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, June 25, 2018, 13:47:05
Rose for Young, Rashford for Sterling.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, June 25, 2018, 13:55:21
Wouldnít start Kane in a million years, no upside only potential downside


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 25, 2018, 13:57:47
Wouldnít start Kane in a million years, no upside only potential downside

Really? We should set up to win. Fuck about and you end up playing someone you'd rather not + there is a spray painted boot to consider.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:02:15
Really? We should set up to win. Fuck about and you end up playing someone you'd rather not + there is a spray painted boot to consider.

Not a big difference in finishing 1st or 2nd given the last 16 opponents and the golden boot shouldnít be a consideration IMO

If he gets injured we are done


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:04:31
I'd be tempted to rest him as well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:17:42
I'd be tempted to rest him as well.

Rather a big call to make resting the Captain?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:19:44
What even is Danny Murphy's accent?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:23:49
What even is Danny Murphy's accent?
I believe it's Chester i.e. slightly toned down Scouse - like Michael Owen.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:24:28
What even is Danny Murphy's accent?

I think he is a Cheshire lad, so its rather generic north west.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 25, 2018, 14:43:53
Wouldnít start Kane in a million years, no upside only potential downside
M&M - momentum and morale, don't fuck about with what's working


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, June 25, 2018, 15:18:55
I believe it's Chester i.e. slightly toned down Scouse - like Michael Owen.

Quote
I think he is a Cheshire lad, so its rather generic north west.

No, that's my point. I wasn't being serious. I know where he's from but he sounds sod all like it. Drops in those weird sounding Cockney-esque tones, every now and again. I know he played for Fulham "When I was at Fulham..." but I'm surprised if that caused a massive change. Seeing as he's from an area with a strong accent anyway. Listen, it's definitely an odd set of sounds he makes at times.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 15:59:32
No, that's my point. I wasn't being serious. I know where he's from but he sounds sod all like it. Drops in those weird sounding Cockney-esque tones, every now and again. I know he played for Fulham "When I was at Fulham..." but I'm surprised if that caused a massive change. Seeing as he's from an area with a strong accent anyway. Listen, it's definitely an odd set of sounds he makes at times.

I actually looked at his Wiki to check after I had posted and it is Chester, I was more shocked to see that he played the most games at Liverpool, I assumed it would be Fulham.

I actually like his co-commentary as if the game is shite he sounds as bored as the rest of us!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 25, 2018, 16:01:10
M&M - momentum and morale, don't fuck about with what's working
Quite right  ...i.e. don't overthink it and try to be too clever...  :nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 25, 2018, 16:07:22
I actually looked at his Wiki to check after I had posted and it is Chester, I was more shocked to see that he played the most games at Liverpool, I assumed it would be Fulham.

I actually like his co-commentary as if the game is shite he sounds as bored as the rest of us!
I don't really have  a view on the commentating in general other than the usual Brazil fawning and other cliches which is annoying of course but generally I just tend to tune it out. Out of the pundits I love Bilic. I also like that Argentinian bloke whose name currently escapes me. Much as I hated him as a player Neville is a great pundit..

Edit: I actually meant Gary although to be fair I think Phil is fine as well.  I don't really get the hate for him..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 16:50:14
I also like that Argentinian bloke whose name currently escapes me.



Zabaleta????? Now he does have a bloody strange accent!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 25, 2018, 17:13:43
Zabaleta????? Now he does have a bloody strange accent!

Yes (thank you!)

And yes, he does.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 25, 2018, 17:15:12
I think he is a Cheshire lad, so its rather generic north west.

With London/Surrey thrown in. I think he lives very near to me. He always seems to be in the local Pizza Express anyway.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:24:15
Ronaldo having his penalty saved.

I needed that today. HAHAHAHA.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:45:16
He's now been booked.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:49:33
Penalty  ???


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:51:59
Portugal scraping through  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:56:10
For what should have been an easy progress for those two was a very fun couple of hours.  Tough old quarter final line-up for them both as well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:58:42
Bloody hell, the BBC have the D team presenting one the Spain game on BBC 4, apart from Lescott who are they??


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 25, 2018, 21:06:04
Does it still have to be deliberate hand ball or has the rule been changed?

How any ref can watch that replay 4 or 5 times and give Iran a penalty is beyond me.

Then he's giving Ronaldo a yellow for what he perceives, i assume, to be a deliberate elbow. It's a red card or it's play on. Total bottle job giving a yellow.

VAR is making for farcical yet compelling viewing. Would be funny if it wasn't likely to go against England at some point for some ridiculous incident. I can see it now.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, June 25, 2018, 21:15:28
How the fuck Spain have managed to top that group after their showings, I'll never know.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, June 25, 2018, 21:24:37
Great match that..

Two pens that never were.

I would of pissed and shit my pants laughing if Iran had grabbed that at the end.

At least one of the diving teams will be out now....Iran did make a contribution to this World Cup.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, June 25, 2018, 21:24:49
Most of the groups are weak. There's certainly no "group of death" this time round.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 07:48:58
Glad I don't do The Flash's washing!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 18:57:50
Apparently this is OUR last chance to see the great Messi in a World Cup. If Messi played for another country iíd Be quite honoured to see it. However as itís Argentina, I hope Nigeria turn them over.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:12:59
Maradona looks like he is on the white stuff again


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:17:15
Maradona looks like he is on the white stuff again
Was thinking exactly the same thing.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:28:17
Come on Nigeria


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:31:50
"the best players perform in the biggest games"
Well, Messi was totally anonymous in the final in 2014


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:42:54
There are no words...

https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1011664334009794561?s=21


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:54:12
There seems to be plenty  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 19:58:41
I meant, to describe such a level of collective fuckwittery.  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:16:40
Always makes me laugh all the "hard" man comments from others. "Seen better fights in my local, blah, blah"


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:17:26
There are no words...

https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1011664334009794561?s=21

Ah yes, that perennial club v country conundrum. Not sure the FA, PL & the EFL settle their differences In this time old Neanderthal way with such high jinks and revelry though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:17:29
Go Nigeria  :)
I've missed both goals  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:19:27
I meant, to describe such a level of collective fuckwittery.  ;D

Bristolian I think may be the correct phrase


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:24:17
Bristolian I think may be the correct phrase
With a sprinkle of cider.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:38:09
Commentator "Argentina need a hand"  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:42:34
I thought a blood injury had to be treated off the pitch?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:43:30
Balls.

Come on Iceland  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:46:47
Balls, Croatia score.

Come on Nigeria  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:49:47
There are no words...

https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1011664334009794561?s=21
That's so funny. Some really awful efforts at throwing things. And one guy looks like he's wearing a Victorian bathing outfit.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:51:31
The Argentina substitutes doing their finest windmill impressions


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 20:53:20
How disappointing


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 21:35:32
Does anyone know why I wanted Argentina to lose that so much? Is it because Mascherano/Maradona are twats? Is it because of the media fawning over Messi and therefore assuming I wanted them to qualify? I can't put my finger on it but.. Gutted.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 21:44:45
I would like a pint of whatever Diego has been drinking, but fear a shot glass full would kill me....

Argentina were like England in their best clueless days, I can understand just give it to Messi, but possibly not the bit that involves just standing still and watching him when he has the ball, they made us look dynamic.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 21:48:36
Does anyone know why I wanted Argentina to lose that so much? Is it because Mascherano/Maradona are twats? Is it because of the media fawning over Messi and therefore assuming I wanted them to qualify? I can't put my finger on it but.. Gutted.

Yep. Late winners for Germany and the Argies have been my only low points of this tournament so far, oh and VAR.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 21:48:55
Mascherano ought to be banned,when Nigeria were pressuring the ref on the head to hand penalty claim, he tried to make out the cut he had for 30 minutes had just been done by an elbow in the build up. Fantastic atmosphere though  helped me enjoy it more.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 22:00:36
World class performance from Maradona...

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12798695.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DIEGO-MARADONA-celebrates-MEssis-for-Argentina-goal-against-Nigeria.jpg)

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/world-cup/2018/06/26/TELEMMGLPICT000167666175_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqwQCNcjnSFbNUHxpqQd_w5eSXk40WcGIbJKZ1ioBU8n4.jpeg?imwidth=1240)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 22:16:41
Does anyone know why I wanted Argentina to lose that so much? Is it because Mascherano/Maradona are twats? Is it because of the media fawning over Messi and therefore assuming I wanted them to qualify? I can't put my finger on it but.. Gutted.

I have exactly the same thoughts. This hero-worshipping of Messi is vomit-inducing. And I may have called Maradona something a little stronger than twat.  :(


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 00:52:41
World class performance from Maradona...

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12798695.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DIEGO-MARADONA-celebrates-MEssis-for-Argentina-goal-against-Nigeria.jpg)

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/world-cup/2018/06/26/TELEMMGLPICT000167666175_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqwQCNcjnSFbNUHxpqQd_w5eSXk40WcGIbJKZ1ioBU8n4.jpeg?imwidth=1240)

Could easily be a spot the ball contest  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:01:23
Madonna is a self indulgent druggie cheating fuck not fit to lace Pele's boots.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:04:31
Fair play to the bloke.

https://twitter.com/Millar_Colin/status/1011864488490995712


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:08:06
Madonna is a self indulgent druggie cheating fuck not fit to lace Pele's boots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHVjzu1WnMw


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:27:55
South Korea, hopefully in good form today


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:33:44
I would like a pint of whatever Diego has been drinking, but fear a shot glass full would kill me....

Or maybe not.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44623999


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 09:41:34
Does anyone know why I wanted Argentina to lose that so much? Is it because Mascherano/Maradona are twats? Is it because of the media fawning over Messi and therefore assuming I wanted them to qualify? I can't put my finger on it but.. Gutted.

In this instance I think the fawning over Messi is justified.... he's a genius, albeit in football, as opposed to say art/music/literature/drama/science or philosophy.  Enjoy him while you can....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 10:08:08
In this instance I think the fawning over Messi is justified.... he's a genius, albeit in football, as opposed to say art/music/literature/drama/science or philosophy.  Enjoy him while you can....

Not entirely convinced although they are as ridiculous over Ronaldo and Neymar which in turn makes those teams rartyher irritating as well.

Listening to them wittering about Messi and watching him play last night got me thinking about some of the comments about Ronaldo the other night. It was the usual wank fest, but one of the summarisers said 'the problem is that Ronaldo runs at you and as a defender once he is in the box you cannot touch him'.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but this is where I have a problem with those who make out that Ronaldo is the best player of all time, he is undoubtedly fucking skillful, but a large part of the game he plays is to run fast and then if he is even touched fall over (especially if he is in the box), now that possibly says more about the fact that football is a non contact game these days (it is nigh impossible to even cleanly tackle someone and not make some sort of contact), but its comparing apples and pears to compare him to players in the 60's and 70's who basically got the shit kicked out of them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 10:10:08
Not entirely convinced although they are as ridiculous over Ronaldo and Neymar which in turn makes those teams rartyher irritating as well.

Listening to them wittering about Messi and watching him play last night got me thinking about some of the comments about Ronaldo the other night. It was the usual wank fest, but one of the summarisers said 'the problem is that Ronaldo runs at you and as a defender once he is in the box you cannot touch him'.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but this is where I have a problem with those who make out that Ronaldo is the best player of all time, he is undoubtedly fucking skillful, but a large part of the game he plays is to run fast and then if he is even touched fall over (especially if he is in the box), now that possibly says more about the fact that football is a non contact game these days (it is nigh impossible to even cleanly tackle someone and not make some sort of contact), but its comparing apples and pears to compare him to players in the 60's and 70's who basically got the shit kicked out of them.

Sadly he is not the only one who does this.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 12:24:26
The Argentiniens seems to be in tears in the crowd for most of the match, it was fcuking pathetic


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 12:58:04
In this instance I think the fawning over Messi is justified.... he's a genius, albeit in football, as opposed to say art/music/literature/drama/science or philosophy.  Enjoy him while you can....
That goal was genius, no doubt about it. Like all great players he made it look easy when it was anything but. The commentary with all it's annoying hubris/hype or whatever you want to call it just goes over my head. I just judge teams and players on their own merits.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 13:05:34
In this instance I think the fawning over Messi is justified.... he's a genius, albeit in football, as opposed to say art/music/literature/drama/science or philosophy.  Enjoy him while you can....

Donít forget a Tax Fraudster.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 13:20:25
The Argentiniens seems to be in tears in the crowd for most of the match, it was fcuking pathetic
Its a pity they weren't all crying at the end - jammy bastards  -   This is the sort of team that will finish up winning it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 13:25:11
Its a pity they weren't all crying at the end - jammy bastards  -   This is the sort of team that will finish up winning it.
Wouldn't surprise me to see an Argentina vs Germany final (I expect some anorak will now tell me that can't happen)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 13:39:06
Wouldn't surprise me to see an Argentina vs Germany final (I expect some anorak will now tell me that can't happen)

It can, but Germany need to top their group


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 14:42:34
Got a feeling Serbia could do a number on Brazil.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:13:11
Wouldn't surprise me to see an Argentina vs Germany final (I expect some anorak will now tell me that can't happen)
as it stands, Germany are out.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:21:57
And if Germany score and win 1-0, Mexico are out.
Unless Mexico score but lose 2-1, then they go through on goals for. I think.

Love the world cup


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:34:20
And if Germany score and win 1-0, Mexico are out.
Unless Mexico score but lose 2-1, then they go through on goals for. I think.

Love the world cup

Just been working this out myself.
If Germany win 1-0 and Sweden win 2-1 then Germany are still out.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:35:57
Trouble is it's 3-0 Sweden  :)
Germany just have to score


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:41:05
We have been awful and deserve to go out


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:42:51
Trouble is it's 3-0 Sweden  :)
Germany just have to score
which is proving easier said than done...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:50:15
now England can wank itself silly


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:52:48
soapy tit wank! Genius football.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:53:13
The Remain lobby and the EU are already lobbying FIFA for a replay because it is the wrong result.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:53:44
Bye bye Germany

I hope those two fuckers that taunted Sweden when they scored the winner the other day are watching.

Karmaís a bitch


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:55:56
9 minutes of time added on. Fergie time is now forthwith known as Merkel time!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:56:31
Well done south Korea.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:58:55
Glorious, absolutely glorious. Bottom of the group.

Now for Brazil to do the same thing.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 16:58:59
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:00:14
Auf Wiedersehen  :bye:

Not a great record in Russia.

I love it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:00:33
If only a word had been invented to show my pleasure at Germany's missfortune.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:01:35
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:02:22
Auf Wiedersehen  :bye:

Not a great record in Russia.

I love it.

 :beers: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :beers: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:03:08
If only a word had been invented to show my pleasure at Germany's missfortune.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohs4iHbEUQM9MYLOE/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:03:28
Fucking brilliant.!!



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:03:35
If only a word had been invented to show my pleasure at Germany's missfortune.

 :D  :nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:05:06
now England can wank itself silly

As the late great Barry Norman said, ďand why not?Ē


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:17:00
if you do go to Germany, whatever you do, don't mention ze Var

(sorry for that Matchworn)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:18:28
now England can wank itself silly

...and you will take it on the chin.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/toovjrnsavbue3yhi51q.gif)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:19:48
Not entirely convinced although they are as ridiculous over Ronaldo and Neymar which in turn makes those teams rartyher irritating as well.

Listening to them wittering about Messi and watching him play last night got me thinking about some of the comments about Ronaldo the other night. It was the usual wank fest, but one of the summarisers said 'the problem is that Ronaldo runs at you and as a defender once he is in the box you cannot touch him'.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but this is where I have a problem with those who make out that Ronaldo is the best player of all time, he is undoubtedly fucking skillful, but a large part of the game he plays is to run fast and then if he is even touched fall over (especially if he is in the box), now that possibly says more about the fact that football is a non contact game these days (it is nigh impossible to even cleanly tackle someone and not make some sort of contact), but its comparing apples and pears to compare him to players in the 60's and 70's who basically got the shit kicked out of them.
tbf, the Don was so good, no 60s cloggers ever got near him


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:48:08
Definitely something up in the German camp, they were never really at the races today and looked laboured and at some points disinterested. Fatigue perhaps?

Either way, if Brazil go out tonight, things get VERY interesting for England. (not that for one moment I think we are good enough to win it.)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:51:48
If only a word had been invented to show my pleasure at Germany's missfortune.

Schadenfreude?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:52:53
Schadenfreude?
I think you may have been whooshed :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:54:59
Double whoosh  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:55:06
Schadenfreude?

(https://i.imgur.com/zpXv9IV.jpg)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:56:38
...and you will take it on the chin.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/toovjrnsavbue3yhi51q.gif)

I have a square head and therefore quite a large chin ;-)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:56:47
Double whoosh  :)

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/OG4vWa0bDni5G/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 17:58:14
Good on ya MS.  :)
Who are you rooting for now? Or couldn't give a toss?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 18:18:17
Definitely something up in the German camp, they were never really at the races today and looked laboured and at some points disinterested. Fatigue perhaps?

Interesting that something like 5 of the last 6 winners have gone out next time in the group stage...... it's as if the manager, holds on to the old guard for too long, out of loyalty.... further it can't be easy for fellas like Werner and Kimmich coming in to side where most already have the winners medal.  Last summer in the Confed Cup, Loew didn't bother with the old guard but won it with mostly kids.... they then won the U 21, even though many of the Confed lot were eligible.

The likes of T Muller, Ozil, Khedira, Boateng look to have passed their time.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 18:25:43
A 2.6 magnitude earthquake recorded in Surrey according to the BGS. Must have been fans jumping up and down watching the EUís favourite sons make another humiliating retreat from Russia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 19:07:55
50p says marcelo's shit himself


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 19:15:33
Quote from: 4D
Quote
If only a word had been invented to show my pleasure at Germany's missfortune.
Schadenfreude?
oh 4D....

wait, you were just playing right..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 19:30:23
Neymar really is an over-rated prick


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 19:30:53
Neymar rolls well


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 21:38:50
I am slightly concerned I may actually have injured myself from laughing too hard


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 22:56:52
Anyone see the Swindon flag on BBC news at 10?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:12:44
Yes I saw it. I assumed two of the blokes they spoke two were the ones named on the flag (one was 'Dad' I think)...didn't recognize any of them though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:25:02
Last time Germany were knocked out at this stage was 1938. They didnít take that too well, we might need to keep an eye on them


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:29:58
So, the big question: How do you approach tonight's game?

Do you leave out some key players to keep them fresh for the Last 16? Do you look at the 2nd place route and somehow try to end up losing the game? Or do you play the strongest team and try to win as convincingly as possible?

A quarter final against Sweden or Switzerland is very appealing, but I'm not sure making wholesale changes for a key game is ideal. Not to mention the farce of two teams trying not to win a game of football.

The possible permutations are laid out here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44620166


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:30:08
Last time Germany were knocked out at this stage was 1938. They didnít take that too well, we might need to keep an eye on them

We've already called a high level meeting to discuss the next course of action

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6a/d5/86/6ad586b35d0580df63fe59e82b11021f--allo-the-germans.jpg)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:44:41
England should play to win. It's all about momentum and confidence.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:50:48
I'm sure they'll play to win for that reason Sippo.

Question is whether players are rested. Personally don't like doing that, but England A losing to a Belgium B team could be confidence affecting.

Think I'd give Kane and a few others a rest, go for the win but not be concerned either way.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:51:42
England should play to win. It's all about momentum and confidence.

Indeed, do anything bar trying to win and we will invariably fuck it up.

Am I alone in finding the wank fest about Germany losing all rather tin pot.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:52:49
I'm sure they'll play to win for that reason Sippo.

Question is whether players are rested. Personally don't like doing that, but England A losing to a Belgium B team could be confidence affecting.

Think I'd give Kane and a few others a rest, go for the win but not be concerned either way.

I would be inclined to play the 'A' team (not BA though) in the first half and if planning to rest anyone take them off at half time?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:55:28
I'm all in for trying to win it, momentum is key.  Trying to plot a route seems amateur to me, would look pretty embarrassing if we played to get the more favourable side only to lose to Sweden for example anyway.

Concentrate on sticking to the principals of the team and go into games being feared rather than fearing them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:03:03
I would be inclined to play the 'A' team (not BA though) in the first half and if planning to rest anyone take them off at half time?

The only one I'd rest as such would be Jordan Henderson.... think he's been decent thus far, and given the work he does and that he was involved in the CL final, would make sense.

We don't know who has got niggles etc, but the wing backs do a lot of work so may be Rose and TA-A could get a run out


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:22:38
Indeed, do anything bar trying to win and we will invariably fuck it up.

Am I alone in finding the wank fest about Germany losing all rather tin pot.....

Yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:28:35
Am I alone in finding the wank fest about Germany losing all rather tin pot.....

Yup! If you can't enjoy the one time we get further than them then what's the point. No doubt it'll bite us on the arse sooner or later, but until then....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:31:19
I've no real problem with the mocking but it's a very one sided footballing rivalry though


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:42:19
I've no real problem with the mocking but it's a very one sided footballing rivalry though

Which is why we are making the most of it, might be another 80 years before Germany are this shit again.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:45:24
I've no real problem with the mocking but it's a very one sided footballing rivalry though

Prachtig!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:48:53
I've no real problem with the mocking but it's a very one sided footballing rivalry though

Ah, the old we don't care really angle


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:53:47
Ah, the old we don't care really angle

I'm sure many Germans have enjoyed English failure over the years, the intense football rivalry aspect is an English creation.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:55:53
I'm sure many Germans have enjoyed English failure over the years

Nope


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:02:06
Whether people choose to believe it or not, it is the case.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:06:21
Who do you see as your international rivalry then MS? Poland? Austria?

England have more than one so don't take it too seriously.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:06:39
From what I gather, Ze Germans main rivalry is with Holland. Not us.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:08:13
From what I gather, Ze Germans main rivalry is with Holland. Not us.

Indeed


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:38:26
The Germans are known to not really give a fuck about us. Itís entirely one sided and Iíd wager few Germans are even aware we think thereís a rivalry.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:40:31
Nope

You don't speak for the whole nation. The enjoyment is probably born out of the English obsession anyway.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: AldbourneRed on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 12:07:10
For anyone who hasn't seen it, John Barnes' World Cup rap is comedy gold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcz2VVcbWfQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcz2VVcbWfQ)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 12:19:58
Which is why we are making the most of it, might be another 80 years before Germany are this shit again.

Germany are the Man United of the world. Very good but had some help along the way. They didnt get away with it this time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:05:14
What a load of bollocks. My brother lives and works in a carpentry workshop just outside Frankfurt and he's been getting absolute pelters for years. He doesn't even really like football.

His colleagues have apparently been markedly quieter today, apart from the one who claimed that if England do well in this world cup it won't count because they didn't get to play Germany.

Suck it up Herman, you do care or you wouldn't be on here trying so hard to convince us you don't.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:15:51
From the Bild last week:

"There are few things in life you can rely on, spring following winter, Bayern winning the title, and England making fools of themselves at the World Cup. But there is something different about England in this World Cup."

Sounds like they really don't care...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:17:49
What a load of bollocks. My brother lives and works in a carpentry workshop just outside Frankfurt and he's been getting absolute pelters for years. He doesn't even really like football.

His colleagues have apparently been markedly quieter today, apart from the one who claimed that if England do well in this world cup it won't count because they didn't get to play Germany.

Suck it up Herman, you do care or you wouldn't be on here trying so hard to convince us you don't.

Itís a bit like Bristol City not caring about us when we beat them, but giving us dogs abuse when they beat us.

As for Germany, their early exit made me happier largely due to those two wankers giving it large to the Swedish bench after the late winner, oh and another team out that would probably have beaten us regardless of how crap they were


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:40:33
I don't really "care", I just find it hilarious. Bottom of the group too  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:49:16
What a load of bollocks. My brother lives and works in a carpentry workshop just outside Frankfurt and he's been getting absolute pelters for years. He doesn't even really like football.

His colleagues have apparently been markedly quieter today, apart from the one who claimed that if England do well in this world cup it won't count because they didn't get to play Germany.

Suck it up Herman, you do care or you wouldn't be on here trying so hard to convince us you don't.

More importantly they make him live in a carpentry workshop - bastards!

From the Bild last week:

"There are few things in life you can rely on, spring following winter, Bayern winning the title, and England making fools of themselves at the World Cup. But there is something different about England in this World Cup."

Sounds like they really don't care...

Be be fair we still have ample opportunities to make fools of ourselves, we haven't played a decent team yet....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 13:59:18
More importantly they make him live in a carpentry workshop - bastards!

Be be fair we still have ample opportunities to make fools of ourselves, we haven't played a decent team yet....

:)

No matter how babdly we do next, we still did better than the sauerkrauts for a change


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 14:11:06
As for Germany, their early exit made me happier largely due to those two wankers giving it large to the Swedish bench after the late winner, oh and another team out that would probably have beaten us regardless of how crap they were

They behaved like complete tossers, no need for their reactions at all


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 14:18:39
Setting aside the Germany comedy, watching Brazil play if Neymar is worth £198m what are Messi/Ronaldo worth? I am not convinced that Neymar is even the best player in that Brazilian team??


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 14:19:12
They behaved like complete tossers, no need for their reactions at all

Didn't see that, who was it and what did they do?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 14:23:07
Didn't see that, who was it and what did they do?

Ran over to the Swedish bench and started clapping sarcastically, it would seem

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/23/germany-spark-bust-sarcastically-clapping-swedens-bench-toni-kroos-winning-goal-7655032/


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 14:26:03
£198m?  :o
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:13:06
All this chit chat of getting England the best QF possible ..... IMO if they draw Columbia in round 2 there wont be a QF for England!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:17:18
VAR has properly stopped a howler there. Which is a shame as I need both teams to score...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:28:55
All this chit chat of getting England the best QF possible ..... IMO if they draw Columbia in round 2 there wont be a QF for England!
Agreed. They'll rip us apart.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:29:09
All this chit chat of getting England the best QF possible ..... IMO if they draw Columbia in round 2 there wont be a QF for England!

They aren't looking good thus far v Senegal.

Cue a Colombian goalfest...

edit: And James has just gone off injured,,,,,


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:32:50
The perfect match, this.

Dirty, cheating bastards v sneaky, diving fuckers


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:39:20
All this chit chat of getting England the best QF possible ..... IMO if they draw Columbia in round 2 there wont be a QF for England!

Maybe, but to be fair Colombia havenít played anyone decent yet.

Poland should be the strongest team in that group but were woeful.

Senegal are ranked lower than Tunisia & Japan are ranked lower than Panama..

When the draw was made most people thought these were two of the weakest groups (aside from Belgium)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:43:42
We, the English, spend more time mapping our path to glory than the national team spend in the competition itself. It's a proud tradition.

We'll show 'em. One day.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:45:00
They aren't looking good thus far v Senegal.

Cue a Colombian goalfest...

edit: And James has just gone off injured,,,,,

Done nothing at all have they, look very susceptible to pace.  If we're worried about them then the debate about finishing 1st or 2nd looks farcical.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:45:34
All this chit chat of Columbia ripping England apart

a) bollocks will they.
b) might not even face them anyway.
c) they aren't out of the group stages yet  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 15:47:04
We, the English, spend more time mapping our path to glory than the national team spend in the competition itself. It's a proud tradition.

We'll show 'em. One day.

Our PM knows the score.... she's seen it all before

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/12be8ca26915bb67abd16eea59c550be7c19e018/936_624_4098_2460/master/4098.jpg?w=300&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=1b1f786a0b643edf553a7e6ce57886da)

Think it says Hazard on the back  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:33:22
Senegal never looked like scoring and could now pay the price and go on yellow cards ....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:49:07
Japan going through on yellow cards as it stands. Fucking hell, that's so shit.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:51:44
 Getting Japan rather than Columbia has to be the way forward.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:53:33
So thatís every Muslim country out then


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:54:32
***COLOMBIA***

Winning the group should always be the aim.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 16:57:47
Dirty, cheating bastards v sneaky, diving fuckers

Sounds like an Argentina v Brazil match


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 18:01:52
Seven changes.

 :no:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 18:17:26
Half expecting 0-0 and bucket load of yellow cards but the optimist in me wants the England fringe players to stake their claim.

Either way, I want England to top the group. Couldn't give a damn about what's 'easiest' - This is England after all.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 18:17:30
Seven changes.

 :no:

I suppose for context how many have they made?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 18:18:02
I suppose for context how many have they made?

A lot. Possibly more.

Answer: 9.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 19:31:35
Belgium being overly dirty to rack up their yellow cards, 2 already.
They clearly want to finish second in the group.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 19:42:06
Belgium being overly dirty to rack up their yellow cards, 2 already.
They clearly want to finish second in the group.
the game needs a goal  :zzz:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 19:45:37
Didn't take long for the real england to return. Pedestrian, and one dimensional, and i suspect the 2nd half will be the same.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 19:48:14
Don't expect too much from this match.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:18:16
https://twitter.com/i/status/1012414754550435840 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:25:47
 :suicide:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:34:49
bet the Colombians are shitting themselves facing England ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:38:57
bet the Colombians are shitting themselves facing England ::)

We've changed most of the team Ffs. As much as I would have dropped Sterling prior to tonight, the only change I'd make from the starting line up vs. Panama for the next game would be Rose for Young.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:46:07
We've changed most of the team Ffs. As much as I would have dropped Sterling prior to tonight, the only change I'd make from the starting line up vs. Panama for the next game would be Rose for Young.
that means fuck all, Picking and choosing when to bother is the height of arrogance,
Southgate wanted 2nd spot thinking it would be an easier route, we shall see


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:46:43
My main concern is the opposition being able to play in areas they should have been closed out of.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:51:15
 A master class in ineptitude..... you'd almost think we planned it that way :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:51:49
Utter dogshit. Anyone who says "all it proves is their 2nd team is better than our 2nd team" will get a punch in the bollocks when i see them. What it did prove was how many of that 11, aren't international class.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:52:32
Well, you can punch me in the bollocks, then.


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:54:37
We've changed most of the team Ffs. As much as I would have dropped Sterling prior to tonight, the only change I'd make from the starting line up vs. Panama for the next game would be Rose for Young.
And they changed 9 and are coached by Roberto Martinez.... Woefully pedestrian and crap.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:56:59
See Southgate has had some coaching in spouting dilusional bollocks to the media now!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:00:12
You can question Southgate's wisdom for his approach to today's game, but whether or not he will be vindicated is yet to be seen. As things stand, there are arguments for and against.

To try and draw any conclusions for today's game, though, would be nuts. It was not our first XI and they were clearly not 'that' up for it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:03:46
Utter dogshit. Anyone who says "all it proves is their 2nd team is better than our 2nd team" will get a punch in the bollocks when i see them. What it did prove was how many of that 11, aren't international class.

TBF, getting through the group stages was the minimum requirement.  We've managed that, anything else a bonus.  Very difficult to see us getting past Columbia, they've core of very streetwise performers


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:04:21
You can question Southgate's wisdom for his approach to today's game, but whether or not he will be vindicated is yet to be seen. As things stand, there are arguments for and against.

To try and draw any conclusions for today's game, though, would be nuts. It was not our first XI and they were clearly not 'that' up for it.

I dont buy that bollocks of not trying, to get an easier route to win it. We arent anywhere near good enough to play those games. You should try to win them all, not put out a side of talentless donkeys for a fistful of maybes. Fuck should never have watched as it pisses me off everytime.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:06:15
TBF, getting through the group stages was the minimum requirement.  We've managed that, anything else a bonus.  Very difficult to see us getting past Columbia, they've core of very streetwise performers

Yeah i do get that, but i've no grey. Only black and white. Win or go out in flames. We've got through but we wont do either option A or B, and never do.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:08:22
I dont buy that bollocks of not trying, to get an easier route to win it. We arent anywhere near good enough to play those games. You should try to win them all, not put out a side of talentless donkeys for a fistful of maybes. Fuck should never have watched as it pisses me off everytime.

At least it's dampened expectations which were starting to rise unrealistically.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:11:17
My main concern is the opposition being able to play in areas they should have been closed out of.

And in English


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:14:39
We have a 1st team that is well rested, without picking up injuries or cards. There's arguments for and against. Imagine if Kane started and pulled a hamstring tonight, Southgate would be bombarded with criticism for playing him.

Like I said, whether or not Southgate is vindicated remains to be seen. Play poorly and lose against Columbia and he's going to be in for a shit ton of abuse. Win, though, and go through and win a 'perceived' easier round and he gets the plaudits.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:17:20
long ball, didn't close down players in key areas.

but frankly anyone who thinks we can't get to the semi finals is being overly negative. 50/50 games the next two for me.

also while Belgium were the better team we had a one on one and should have dawn level. fine margins.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:21:08
Southgate was right to do what he did this evening.

Colombia will be tough as heck (that's pretty tough).

We'll be lucky to get such a potentially kind route again.

England, Colombia, Sweden and Switzerland will all fancy their Semi-Final chances.

We will fuck it up. Eventually.

Still a billion times better than 4 years ago and all I wanted was progression from the group stages (we'd have never let that down).



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:24:41
Still a billion times better than 4 years ago

Oh yes. This is the first time I've enjoyed a major tournament since... I dunno.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:27:11
 Even if, as is likely, we go out at the next stage, I think Gareth should keep his job.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:27:41
Even if, as is likely, we go out at the next stage, I think Gareth should keep his job.
Seconded


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:29:05
It was not our first XI and they were clearly not 'that' up for it.

It's the fucking World Cup. The pinnacle of a career. They should've been playing to win and for the possibility of starting the next game.

For me, Southgate got it wrong. Play the strongest team, score goals, win games.

I'd liked his refreshing honesty with the press up until before kick off. His chat with ITV after the game completely undid that. Waffled a load of bullshit about how we kept going. We had one shot on target FFS.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:29:45
At least it's dampened expectations which were starting to rise unrealistically.

Mainly in the media to be fair. I like the bbc player rater thingy. It has been putting things into perspective. No england player has been above 7.1 in any game, and I think then only 2 players in 3 games. Tonights should be pretty grim reading.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:30:19
It's a young team. If it's allowed to develop together with Southgate at the helm, we could be in for some good tournaments further down the line.

You just know he's going to get busted by the Sun getting watching a porno or whatever, and sacked by the dinosaurs the FA, though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:32:55
It's a young team. If it's allowed to develop together with Southgate at the helm, we could be in for some good tournaments further down the line.

Maybe with the next lot, with 4 or 5 of these current ones.  One thing i do know for sure now not watching prem football, is that Rashford isnt a striker. Could be a good midfielder though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:42:05
And in English

Yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:44:31
that means fuck all, Picking and choosing when to bother is the height of arrogance,
Southgate wanted 2nd spot thinking it would be an easier route, we shall see

That's got precisely nothing to do with what you said.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:44:38
Must say though, although the game was rubbish it did produce the funniest thing yet with batchshuyi (sp) smashing his self in the face with the ball when they scored :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 21:51:12
It's the fucking World Cup. The pinnacle of a career. They should've been playing to win and for the possibility of starting the next game.

For me, Southgate got it wrong. Play the strongest team, score goals, win games.

I'd liked his refreshing honesty with the press up until before kick off. His chat with ITV after the game completely undid that. Waffled a load of bullshit about how we kept going. We had one shot on target FFS.


Cut Southgate some slack. He was a bit flustered but he's got to pretend that he's gutted with the way this has gone.

I'd have definitely rested players. Progression after game 2 is a luxury therefore why not make the most of it?

If we lost to Belgium and somebody like Kane pulled up then Southgate would have faced an absolute beating from the nation.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 22:02:59
If we lost to Belgium and somebody like Kane pulled up then Southgate would have faced an absolute beating from the nation.

Like James Rodriguez did... bet he's fit now..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 22:13:11
Iím going out on a limb and will suggest that the team who played tonight mostly wonít be playing on Tuesday, tonightís result will have little bearing on Tuesday


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 29, 2018, 07:32:26
The curse of ITV has struck again.

England usually lose (or don't win) in tournaments when on ITV.

Unfortunately ITV are showing the Colombia game :(


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 29, 2018, 07:34:21
bloody hell, I don't care whether we get Columbia or Japan, but Southgate was a fool to overlook the ITV factor.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 29, 2018, 07:38:10
Speaking of ITV and the fact they should never be allowed to broadcast any football at all ever, did anyone else completely lose pictures and sound for about 2-3 mins around the hour mark? We still had BBC, Ch 4/5 etc but ITV was just completely blank, not even snow, just a black screen.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, June 29, 2018, 07:38:40
Something has to give, Columbia have never beaten us.
Also, why do they have such big support over there?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 29, 2018, 07:39:35
Something has to give, Columbia have never beaten us.
Also, why do they have such big support over there?
The cartels ran a special bus :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, June 29, 2018, 09:23:38
The reaction to last night's game has really taken me by surprise.  We put the B team out, and lost a game 1-0.  I missed the last half hour of the game, and turned the radio on at the end to hear several minutes of anguished commentary...and was convinced that we must have lost by 3-0 or worse.

It was a calculation.  Most of the best players were not even on the pitch.  We have a winnable tie vs Columbia and then, if we get as that, a better draw than Belgium now have.  That was all the talk 24 hrs ago - but now seems to have been forgotten.  All very odd.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, June 29, 2018, 10:00:37
No football today and a chance for everyone to get the wall charts up to date.

16 teams are on the way home, so the pressure on global hair gel supplies may ease only slightly with Giroud still being in.

Have enjoyed it overall so far. VAR has added a bit of drama.
Hopefully teams wonít put safety first in the knockout stages.

So, which teams are going to make it through to the QFís?

I reckon Uruguay v Argentina, with Uruguay maybe going all the way to the final.
Very strong in defence, top class attack and look as if they can grind out a result over 120 mins, which they might need to do against Portugal.
France have seemed a bit turgid and a yerba mate fuelled Argentina might have a bit too much for them.

Then Spain v Croatia.
Difficult to call. Spain unconvincing so far and Croatia have looked good and could just edge it.
Russia have maybe exceeded expectations but look to be decent hosts after initial concerns.
Theyíll give Spain a good game but class should tell.
Modrić & Rakitić to overcome Eriksen, possibly after extra time.

Mexico v Belgium.
Mexico can upset Brazil if they play with energy and tempo.
Finding it difficult to take Brazil seriously with a Miranda in defence.
This could be Belgiumís year and they look to have the strength in depth.
Japan will exit with heads held high and at least their fans have helped to clean up the stadiums after their games.

Finally, Switzerland v England.
The Swiss to just edge out Sweden in another one that could go to extra time and beyond.
England, maybe sentiment over common sense, but anyone could make it out of this section and it could be down to fine margins on the day. Having one less game in their legs could turn out to be the difference.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:02:55
Something has to give, Columbia have never beaten us.
Also, why do they have such big support over there?

Belgium had only beaten us once in 20 attempts, in the1930's.

Iceland had never beaten us.

Every country seems to have a massive support apart from England... it's all a bit surreal


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:07:43
The reaction to last night's game has really taken me by surprise.  We put the B team out, and lost a game 1-0.  I missed the last half hour of the game, and turned the radio on at the end to hear several minutes of anguished commentary...and was convinced that we must have lost by 3-0 or worse.

It was a calculation.  Most of the best players were not even on the pitch.  We have a winnable tie vs Columbia and then, if we get as that, a better draw than Belgium now have.  That was all the talk 24 hrs ago - but now seems to have been forgotten.  All very odd.
Agree completely - it turns out that our B team isn't quite as good as Belgium's B team. Woot. Apart from the bit about being surprised, that is, why are you so surprised at the massive overreaction? As a nation, we seem to have been entirely in thrall to the kind of mood swings a recovering alcoholic would be proud of for the past two decades.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:11:28
Agree completely - it turns out that our B team isn't quite as good as Belgium's B team. Woot. Apart from the bit about being surprised, that is, why are you so surprised at the massive overreaction? As a nation, we seem to have been entirely in thrall to the kind of mood swings a recovering alcoholic would be proud of for the past two decades.

Indeed, and it's not just England, the same thing infects our (STFC) fans too.


Except those that have a single agenda which seems to be to take a swipe at the team/club/chairman at every opportunity. The difference if we win or are doing well they get shouted down by people that are fed up with them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:21:25
 ::)

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/16322871.tv-damaged-and-bottles-thrown-in-post-england-match-trouble-at-the-woodlands-edge/


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:35:38
I've seen some say things along the lines of we should just pack up and go home now on yesterday's showing.

I think they've missed something.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 29, 2018, 11:37:06
Indeed, and it's not just England, the same thing infects our (STFC) fans too.
It's not even just football, it seems the entire nation is massively menopausal ever since Diana died.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, June 29, 2018, 12:57:45
Speaking of ITV and the fact they should never be allowed to broadcast any football at all ever, did anyone else completely lose pictures and sound for about 2-3 mins around the hour mark? We still had BBC, Ch 4/5 etc but ITV was just completely blank, not even snow, just a black screen.
Did anyone else notice the amount of times during the second half how many times they panned in on the Belgian supporters in the crowd ?,  it appears they were quite happy not showing the English contingent, there were odd occasions when they preferred to show them (the belgians) rather than the game.   I don't know anyone in Belgium and I certainly am not interested in watching them wallowing in the result.   Show England fans yes, but if all ITV want to do is glorify our defeat then they can fuck off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:02:27
It's not even just football, it seems the entire nation is massively menopausal ever since Diana died.

I'm calling sexism here....use of the menopause as a perjorative.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:04:14
I'm calling sexism here....use of the menopause as a perjorative.
Never heard of the male menopause then?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:11:42
Never heard of the male menopause then?

Debatable if it actually exists, for most men they'll happily produce sperm into their 80's, for which I am grateful.

No such argument with women.... yes they can go a bit potty, but it's perfectly natural.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:32:18
Did anyone else notice the amount of times during the second half how many times they panned in on the Belgian supporters in the crowd ?,  it appears they were quite happy not showing the English contingent, there were odd occasions when they preferred to show them (the belgians) rather than the game.   I don't know anyone in Belgium and I certainly am not interested in watching them wallowing in the result.   Show England fans yes, but if all ITV want to do is glorify our defeat then they can fuck off.

You do realise all footage comes from a central source, right? BBC would have had exactly the same pictures.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:41:18
You do realise all footage comes from a central source, right? BBC would have had exactly the same pictures.

Pics are the same all over the world.

My disappointment was the coverage of Argentina v Nigeria on BBC.  Nigeria hardly mentioned at all during the game by Jenas (who banged on about Messi all night) and at half time by Lineker and Co.
They did get a mention at FT as plucky losers.
Made my piss boil and I sent BBC an email complaint.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:42:39
It's not even just football, it seems the entire nation is massively menopausal ever since Diana died.

The peoples Princess....  :cry:

Did anyone else notice the amount of times during the second half how many times they panned in on the Belgian supporters in the crowd ?,  it appears they were quite happy not showing the English contingent, there were odd occasions when they preferred to show them (the belgians) rather than the game.   I don't know anyone in Belgium and I certainly am not interested in watching them wallowing in the result.   Show England fans yes, but if all ITV want to do is glorify our defeat then they can fuck off.

Well if you don't know anyone in Belgium that reason enough for ITV not to show the fans, perhaps should not have shown the Belgian players at all?  ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, June 29, 2018, 13:50:18
Pics are the same all over the world.

My disappointment was the coverage of Argentina v Nigeria on BBC.  Nigeria hardly mentioned at all during the game by Jenas (who banged on about Messi all night) and at half time by Lineker and Co.
They did get a mention at FT as plucky losers.
Made my piss boil and I sent BBC an email complaint.

It's boring when the favoured few get constant praise.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Friday, June 29, 2018, 14:38:13
All the anti Russia bullshit following the Salisbury "incident" put a lot of English fans travelling.Turns out it was exactly that.
On last night's game totally with Southgate in resting some players but in my opinion our back 3 hardly needed a rest after the first 2 games and I just think they would have benefited from an extra game together as a unit.
But hey
Also I have a feeling the World Cup is "coming home"(To use a popular current phrase) to where it started off


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 29, 2018, 14:41:18
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg3FEP8W0AI9Bs-.jpg:large)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 29, 2018, 15:24:23
All the anti Russia bullshit following the Salisbury "incident" put a lot of English fans travelling.Turns out it was exactly that.
On last night's game totally with Southgate in resting some players but in my opinion our back 3 hardly needed a rest after the first 2 games and I just think they would have benefited from an extra game together as a unit.
But hey
Also I have a feeling the World Cup is "coming home"(To use a popular current phrase) to where it started off

:french: ?

I worry about them, scraping through nicely and yet to implode into a fine display of Raymond Domenech style insousiance  :shrug:

I'd prefer a nation that actually cares about football....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 29, 2018, 15:26:52
:french: ?

I worry about them, scraping through nicely and yet to implode into a fine display of Raymond Domenech style insousiance  :shrug:

I'd prefer a nation that actually cares about football....

Wasn't the first World Cup held in, and won by, Uruguay?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 29, 2018, 15:29:34
Wasn't the first World Cup held in, and won by, Uruguay?

Yes, but Jules Rimet the daddy of the WC was French....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, June 29, 2018, 16:46:38
All the anti Russia bullshit following the Salisbury "incident" put a lot of English fans travelling.Turns out it was exactly that.
On last night's game totally with Southgate in resting some players but in my opinion our back 3 hardly needed a rest after the first 2 games and I just think they would have benefited from an extra game together as a unit.
But hey
Also I have a feeling the World Cup is "coming home"(To use a popular current phrase) to where it started off

I was in the middle of that Marseille mess and I have to say it put me off. Was tempted by a trip to the game just over the Polish border but the prices were fucking stupid....so ...meh..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 29, 2018, 22:30:15
Agree completely - it turns out that our B team isn't quite as good as Belgium's B team. Woot. Apart from the bit about being surprised, that is, why are you so surprised at the massive overreaction? As a nation, we seem to have been entirely in thrall to the kind of mood swings a recovering alcoholic would be proud of for the past two decades.


Punch in the bollocks alert..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 29, 2018, 22:30:45
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg3FEP8W0AI9Bs-.jpg:large)

Ace.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 29, 2018, 22:34:15
Debatable if it actually exists, for most men they'll happily produce sperm into their 80's, for which I am grateful.

No such argument with women.... yes they can go a bit potty, but it's perfectly natural.

 ???


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 14:41:46
Looking forward to this one.

Had a flutter for interest. Griezmann and Messi to score, Otamendi and Mascherano to be carded.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 14:57:45
Allez Les Blues!!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:05:56
I'd like both teams to lose please.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:08:49
Pace  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:14:36
Win win day for me. 2 of either France, Argies, Uruguay or Portugal going home.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:16:39
Route one paying off for France  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:39:42
The commentator likes that goal then  ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:07:39
... and now he is relieved that he got the chance to use his ďsuper MercadoĒ line.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:11:44
Comedy defending


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:14:31
What a strike  8)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:24:13
This is getting silly now!  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:25:32
Quiet now  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:36:37
Messi - vastly, vastly over-rated footballer


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:40:19
France have another goal in them


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:42:07
Argentina only have to hit the floor and it's a free kick  ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:44:38
Are you okay, 4D?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:45:11
Yes  ;)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:45:48
That's good. Felt obliged to make sure...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:48:10
Ffs


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:51:18
Get in  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:56:09
Mbappe becoming all N'Dah like


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 16:57:57
That was a bit good. A few stonking goals in there.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:02:40
Kante is an absolute beast.He's got to be the best midfielder in the world now. He's like an up to date McHale and Kamara rolled into one.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:02:51
Uruguay vs. Portugal will be scruffier but should still be a good one.

Germany, Argentina and possibly Portugal all gone before they can beat England.

Wonder who the new enemy of English football will be?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:06:52
That's easy. Columbia..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:07:29

Wonder who the new enemy of English football will be?

Raheem Sterling.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:09:35
Average game that one.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:23:03
Do we all love france now?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:27:50
France should have had a couple of goals disallowed at least, for all their subs running on the pitch to celebrate.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:31:09
Do we all love france now?
No. Itís the same as Jackie ĎMr TVí Pallo v Mick McManus from Brent Town Hall.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:31:18
France should have had a couple of goals disallowed at least, for all their subs running on the pitch to celebrate.

I mean, that's not a rule, but sure, go for it.

Kante is an absolute beast.He's got to be the best midfielder in the world now. He's like an up to date McHale and Kamara rolled into one.

Matuidi next to him is pretty bloody decent too.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:33:49
Do we all love france now?

Certainly not... I'd have preferred Argentina to go through.  As I said t'other day, worryingly they look to be doing it right. At 2-1 down, normally you'd expect to see the white flag raised, a bit like this only white.... :bullshit:

especially against a limited Argentina, who have enough experience to spoil a game from there.

 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 17:39:32
Do we all love france now?

Only if the French recognise that IT'S COMING HOME.

Did I do that right?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 18:54:29
Itíd be better, and more exciting, if the round of 16 onwards was decided by a random draw.

Canít remember - has it always been preordained?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:05:18
Great goal


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:10:02
Deadliest shoulder in the WC!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:26:58
Itíd be better, and more exciting, if the round of 16 onwards was decided by a random draw.

Canít remember - has it always been preordained?
Wouldn't work cause you'd end up with a team getting a days break against a team getting 4 or 5.

Unless you made the tournament longer with bigger gaps between games.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:30:25
What the fuck is Ronaldo doing with his shorts. He's no Steve white, is he?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:35:09
Sad isn't it  :nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:42:09
Wouldn't work cause you'd end up with a team getting a days break against a team getting 4 or 5.

Unless you made the tournament longer with bigger gaps between games.
Good point. Never thought of that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:12:48
It just had to be him, didnít it?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:19:04
A beauty


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:25:18
You get that feeling that he's still going to pop up.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:49:43
The amount of attacks where nobody is just outside the box when the ball pings back.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:52:58
You get that feeling that he's still going to pop up.

Did nothing all evening except for pulling his shorts like a child during the terrible twos


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:53:57
Well well


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 20:59:36
Enjoyed the referee clearly deciding before the game that the best way to deal with both teams being shitehawks of the highest order was to give nothing whatsoever for the entire 90 minutes and then giving Ronaldo a yellow for not all that much comparatively (especially considering Quaresma very nearly lamped him in the same incident). Quality stuff.

To be honest, I've seen two teams today that I think would tie England in a bag and drown them. Good thing that we're on the other side of the draw...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:04:41
Did nothing all evening except for pulling his shorts like a child during the terrible twos

...and continued that attitude, screaming at the ref at the end. Not very Captain material.

Good, that's Messi FC & Ronaldo FC out of the tournament. Just need the Neymar wankathon to end and I'll be happy these so called World class players are no longer in the World Cup. Individuals may score great goals but a whole team wins a World Cup. So far the most organised sides have been Croatia, Uruguay (to a degree), Belgium and dare I say it, England.

Anyway, I was having my own wankfest in how good a CB Godin still is. Easily the best centre back in the World currently, especially when we cut all the bullshit out that someone like Ramos has in his game. Godin vastly underrated /even unknown by many. Less interesting that they're both the same age as myself.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:09:30
Enjoyed the referee clearly deciding before the game that the best way to deal with both teams being shitehawks of the highest order was to give nothing whatsoever for the entire 90 minutes and then giving Ronaldo a yellow for not all that much comparatively (especially considering Quaresma very nearly lamped him in the same incident). Quality stuff.

To be honest, I've seen two teams today that I think would tie England in a bag and drown them. Good thing that we're on the other side of the draw...

I saw one that may...they qualified. The other has been fairly disorganised, one man team devoid of real ideas and holding onto their success of two years ago. To coin a phrase, Portugal were shit.

Uruguay weren't World beaters though. However they were organised. They were also very good at going to ground. Often. Suarez appears to have left his biting set of teeth on his bedside table.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:14:17
To be honest, I've seen two teams today that I think would tie England in a bag and drown them. Good thing that we're on the other side of the draw...

Uruguay played with a passion and commitment that our lot just can't get near managing.  If Gareth is right then having had a bit of a break may mean the A team will have a bit more energy than the usual limp KO displays. We'll certainly need it as Columbia are not too unlike Uruguay.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:20:16
But England are through to the last 14


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:31:10
But England are through to the last 14

There'll be a few more knocked out before us as well... we should make it to the last 9.  Phil Jones has lasted longer than Ronaldo and Messi.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 21:38:38
We're there on merit


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 22:52:39
Just need the Neymar wankathon to end and I'll be happy these so called World class players are no longer in the World Cup.

Are you saying you donít think Messi and Ronaldo are world class?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, June 30, 2018, 23:47:13
Are you saying you donít think Messi and Ronaldo are world class?

I'm saying they have been built up more so by the media, in part thanks to their characters. Ronaldo has at least performed in Tournaments (however he wasn't in this match tonight) as has won something at International level. Messi hasn't. There is no doubting they are great individual players but as I say, Godin is easily the best CB in the World currently.

I feel that the Messi and Ronaldo era (and much of the Spanish team) is coming to an end. Not just because of age but it is a factor and with that becomes a reduction in the ability to keep on "pulling it out the bag".

Make no mistake, they have both been World Class but that title is starting to be fade somewhat and be questioned. Ronaldo I think has the ability to adapt but Messi has always been torn at international level. 

They both still ooze quality (one also likes to posture a lot too, which does nothing for the game...what's with the shorts thing in the last few years?), however it may be time for another duo to take centre stage. There are a few candidates knocking about.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 11:35:54
Wouldn't really be comfortable facing Sweden if we manage to beat Colombia.Physical well organised defensively sound,just the sort of team we struggle against.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 14:17:25
Wouldn't really be comfortable facing Sweden if we manage to beat Colombia.Physical well organised defensively sound,just the sort of team we struggle against.

To be honest at that point, any match is difficult no matter who you are. It's more about who wants it most (see Brazil v Germany last time). While the media are starting to ramp up France. It was an entertaining match bt they were very direct. I'd say one penalty was dubious. Di Maria scored the best goal of the match. I'd question the French defence if they had to score 4 to win. Means a technical team could frustrate them. This would be Uruguay but they will struggle a little more without the irritable Cavani. Suarez needs to grab that game by the....teeth?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:21:05
If you put hierro in a white t shirt, black leather jacket and gave him a baseball bat with wire around it, he'd be a ringer for negan


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:32:27
Fuck watching Spain. Snore fest.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:36:33
Yep. Was just about to say the same. Yesterday's games are good,this is crap. It needs a Russian goal to make it interesting again.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:37:16
And just as I type that, penalty.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:39:16
And goal. The Spanish deserved that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 15:45:45
If you put hierro in a white t shirt, black leather jacket and gave him a baseball bat with wire around it, he'd be a ringer for negan

Haha, a bit more growth on the beard and yeah, I see it. Hierro does tilt at the knee a lot too  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 16:42:59
First ET of the tournament I reckon


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 16:45:48
First ET of the tournament I reckon

Oh look, 4 added minutes...again. Been a regular/popular number for added time that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 16:49:06
Neither side look interested


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 16:55:43
Perhaps they are trying to bore each other to death.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 16:58:42
Neither side look interested

I agree, fitness wise I'd expect more from Spain but they're another team that are slow. Dare I say, they're like England up until 2016. Attack Russia with speed on the wings and they'd struggle to retain. Old fashioned wing play and they're beaten.

Wouldn't be fussed if we happened to meet either of these in the S-F (if we get there). Croatia must be wanking themselves silly. Strongest/Most dangerous team in our half of the draw. They'll likely be in the semis. If we're good enough to get there, be no shame losing to them. However, it'd be a great chance to make the Final. Denmark of course may have something to say about it but unless Erikson has a belter then surely Croatia are too strong for them.

Still, plenty to play for yet!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:16:22
Russia are gonna win this


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:17:22
What Rodrigo did then. Do that a couple more times, Spain win. They should've been doing that all game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:18:58
Russia are gonna win this

On Penalties? or a random counter. Think Russia are playing for penos now. #Blowing


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:19:36
It is all too slow, pedestrian and negative. Tactically a very good game but to watch it is like sandpaper for the eyes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:25:50
Spain trying to win the game by beating the ref up. Hate that getting in the faces bullshit, like Ronaldo last night. Especially when the players now know that we have tech to check things.

Fuck you Spain!

!Joderr Espana i


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:28:47
Rather Spain win than Russia


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:33:15
Rather Spain win than Russia

Not fussed, they've been shit.  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:34:15
What's the betting a Spain player misses?

Edit: Check.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:36:03
What's the betting a Spain player misses?
:nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:37:25
How the fuck did "The World's Best 'Keeper" not save that?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:38:21
....and that one #ThrownShootOut  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:40:31
Brazil next please  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:41:38
un fucking believable.

see ya Spain!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 17:58:52
That was akin to a Luke Williams era "victory" for Spain. Based on possession stats.
Only got themselves to blame there.

The big Russki centre forward looks as if he could do a job at L2 level.
A 100 Blini per goal bonus might be enough to tempt him to the CG.  :)

Don't understand why keepers move early when facing a penalty.
Don't move until the ball moves and don't get beaten by one that's gone right down the middle.
Guesswork shouldn't come into it?



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:02:13
One of these will now be in the World Cup Final  :eek:

Russia
Croatia
Denmark
Sweden
Switzerland
Colombia
England


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:10:07
if you don't guess early as a keeper you aren't getting to a well taken penalty.

but if they really are got down the middle a lot then you have a point


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:18:23
One of these will now be in the World Cup Final  :eek:

Russia
Croatia
Denmark
Sweden
Switzerland
Colombia
England

Just the 1?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:22:04
Just the 1?

That's the teams left on one side of the competition, so yeah, just one of those.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:30:40
Oh, ha. Ooops.

I'm blaming it on last night's gin. 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 18:59:33
Blimey


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:00:26
Crikey! Thatís a bit of a start.

..... twice!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:02:04
Cripes!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:24:47
I canít believe the Mexican Wave has survived this long. Bring back the vuvuzela


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:26:34
Iím enjoying the refís old-school comb over.  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:41:24
I canít believe the Mexican Wave has survived this long. Bring back the vuvuzela
It should have been killed off after that Luton game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 19:54:25
Kante is an absolute beast.He's got to be the best midfielder in the world now. He's like an up to date McHale and Kamara rolled into one.
Nice spot, Chalkies.  People going on about Messi not showing up.  There was a reason for that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 20:00:49
I canít believe the Mexican Wave has survived this long. Bring back the vuvuzela

https://youtu.be/h9tPMe9xsnE


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 20:14:16
That clip always makes me oddly proud.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:05:47
Well, thereís been some right old shite on offer today.

If we are only half decent we should go a long way.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:12:17
If we are only half decent we should go a long way.

If Spain and Croatia can offer shite, we're more than capable of beating aspect that too!

How England and Colombia respond to being last up and knowing the complete picture will be the test. Somebody will choke.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:23:46
Should have been a red card


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:24:35
No fcuking justice at all


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:25:38
Best deliberate pen in history.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:27:56
Best deliberate pen in history.

Suarez was good in 2010.

The fact that Jorgensen probably knew that he wouldn't be sent-off too.

I'd hope the same in both scenarios.


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:28:05
edit: if ref thought it was deliberately done it therefore should be red. if he thought foul was accidental while trying to play ball, no red due to double jeopardy.

personally think he just lunged and hoped for best, so probably red

did what he had to and the Danes still have a chance


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:30:21
Hopefully they lose in the shootout, otherwise poor Bilic might explode


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:42:08
Some shootout so far.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 21:44:45
Good


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 22:07:55
The right team won in terms of justice but my god Croatia played some shit tonight. Kudos to both 'keepers though in the shootout. Big balls goes to Modric.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, July 1, 2018, 22:40:30
I'm saying they have been built up more so by the media, in part thanks to their characters. Ronaldo has at least performed in Tournaments (however he wasn't in this match tonight) as has won something at International level. Messi hasn't. There is no doubting they are great individual players but as I say, Godin is easily the best CB in the World currently.

I feel that the Messi and Ronaldo era (and much of the Spanish team) is coming to an end. Not just because of age but it is a factor and with that becomes a reduction in the ability to keep on "pulling it out the bag".

Make no mistake, they have both been World Class but that title is starting to be fade somewhat and be questioned. Ronaldo I think has the ability to adapt but Messi has always been torn at international level. 

Messi at international level-
2016 lost Copa America final on pens
2015 lost Copa America final on pens
2014 lost World Cup final extra time goal
2011 lost Copa America 1/4 final on pens
2010 lost World Cup 1/4 final
2007 lost Copa America final
2006 lost World Cup 1/4 final on pens

Yes winning is important and ultimately is what counts but its hard to judge a player/team failure on penalty shootout success. A penalty kick from one of his team mates is what separates him and Ronaldo on international trophies

Similarly England may not have had success in 50+ years but its only been a penalty failure that has stopped us on so many occasions. (or a Ronaldinho fluke/ sol campbell disallowed goal, petulant red cards) Excuses? yes. but you do need some luck and we are overdue some

Not sure if it will be England but i think an outsider could get the job done this year.   


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 00:56:17
Messi at international level-
2016 lost Copa America final on pens
2015 lost Copa America final on pens
2014 lost World Cup final extra time goal
2011 lost Copa America 1/4 final on pens
2010 lost World Cup 1/4 final
2007 lost Copa America final
2006 lost World Cup 1/4 final on pens

Yes winning is important and ultimately is what counts but its hard to judge a player/team failure on penalty shootout success. A penalty kick from one of his team mates is what separates him and Ronaldo on international trophies

Similarly England may not have had success in 50+ years but its only been a penalty failure that has stopped us on so many occasions. (or a Ronaldinho fluke/ sol campbell disallowed goal, petulant red cards) Excuses? yes. but you do need some luck and we are overdue some

Not sure if it will be England but i think an outsider could get the job done this year.    

I don't discredit anything you are saying there. Yes England have been for want of a better word 'butthurt' for such a long time now. We may be bias, and it seems like we have had decisions or other factors go against us. So much so, it's been the norm. Let's take a wincing look;

1970 - A massive ploy to usettle the World Champions as the England Captain Bobby Moore is arrested for robbing jewels! That definitely didn't help preparations. Later on Banks got food poisoning before a repeat of the Final vs Die Mannschaft. As champions of anything, you're always going to be up against it and scrutinised. Banks still was a cut above, the World was introduced to Pele. A surprising Q-F finish amongst all the drama.

1974 - Disaster. We fail to qualify. The World understands Johan Cruyff is the real deal. West Germany beat Holland in the final, with an inspired performance by Vogts. I believe this is where the main Deutsche/Dutch rivalry grew much stronger. England make the final...via ref Jack Taylor. No excuses.

1978 - Failed to qualify again. The 70s was a write off in English National team terms. Was this not one of the craziest World Cups though? The head of the World Cup committee assassinated, the brilliance of Cruyff denied as he refused to take part. All this before a ball was kicked. No doubt the Argentinians were great and the Dutch, without Cruyff were equally as good. They however were becoming the nearly men on the world stage. Again, no excuses England.

1982 - A rather lacklustre return to the world stage after a 12 year hiatus (did we really party too much after winning it in 66?), but a return nonetheless. A fantastic Brazil side, some match fixing controversy with W.G and Austria, and an Italian side that showed some true defensive class. Stale for England, nothing in the way of drama, just happy to be back.

1986 - England are back! With a squad that seems capable of winning the damn thing after 20 years of nothing at all. We all know how this should've been. The cheating little Argentinian prick. We can debate about VAR, we can debate if he would've scored his second (which was awesome) had the first stood but this was to be the start of our so called "run of drama". A World Cup we likely deserved to go on and win but for the "Hand of God". Drama.

1990 - Another strong World Cup performance. Blood, bandages galore, piss ups, fights, tears. Yes this was a World Cup the Sun and the rest of the "red tops" just couldn't get enough of. Gazza gets pissed, we win. Gazza gets a 2nd yellow, cries out all the alcohol, sobers up. We go out. Lose to Germany on penalties. We're becoming like the Dutch, except instead of weed, we're just wankered on cheap lager the whole time. Absolute drama.

1994 - Failed to qualify. Still literally hungover by the German defeat. Diana Ross announces her immense power and footballing ability in probably a World Cup opening ceremony that was more memorable than the World Cup itself. Nods to Andy "I'm Irish Honest" Townsend and Jack Charlton's ever existing last strands of combover! No excuses England.

1998 - A revived England, who become the nearly men again as the hosts of Euro 96 (penalties again). A growing team with exceptional qualities, a strong midfield. The world only gets a glimpse of the sublime Michael Owen. Full of drama, Beckham's red, faith healing and Gazza's omission. Drama indeed. Lose on penalties at a tournament for the third time in a row. Only this time it's in the 2nd Round. A team worthy of going far. A pattern emerges.

2002 - Besieged with injuries beforehand but still a squad looking like it could go all the way in  distinctly average world cup. We only just qualified thanks to a late Beckham goal. Him at his best. Again drama came though in the Q-F, an average Brazil who were great going forward (better than currently) but terrible when attacked. England did attack but Rivaldo played jester and got away with it. Ronaldinho scores a fluke as Seaman gets a flashback of Nayim in the European Cup. Another chance gone begging. We were better than that but history will say; England Q-F.

2006 - Another team capable of doing something special. It clicked less this time but it still had it's drama. The Portuguese Winker causing problems and Rooney sent off. Out on penalties - Again. Definite drama, beginning to think these boys are cursed.

2010 - Ahh the Vuvuzela Cup, and end of an era for several of these nearly players. Quite befitting that the drama here surrounding more injuries and Frank Lampard's "goal that never stood". How it could have been quite so different. I was at Glastonbury that year and appeared on Sky Sports "around the grounds" feature at FT. The live pieces they do but during the World Cup they go to places like "The Dog & Duck, High Wycombe, Trafalgar Square, and Glasto". A disappointing World Cup but we were seemingly afraid to win.

2014 - Probably the worst showing at a World Cup. Yes the golden bunch were starting to look tired/disinterested. Question marks over Wayne Rooney's commitment. It wasn't all bad, there were signs of youngsters coming through but it was a World Cup too early. No real drama we were just shit. We're they as good as we thought? or did they massively underachieve? Something has to change but it didn't and whatever dank smell filled the air in Brazil was left hanging in 2016.

So a good chunk of drama but probably not as much as we like to think. A good chunk of just not being good enough or too complacent. It begs the question, if VAR had been available/in use since 1966, do you think we may have won a some more World Cups?

Sorry, I've fucking rambled. Back to Messi. I guess history will say he has yet to win a trophy at International level. It is harsh but in 20 years, he will just be considered as a nearly man. Shameful but true.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 08:11:22
1982 - A rather lacklustre return to the world stage after a 12 year hiatus (did we really party too much after winning it in 66?), but a return nonetheless. A fantastic Brazil side, some match fixing controversy with W.G and Austria, and an Italian side that showed some true defensive class. Stale for England, nothing in the way of drama, just happy to be back.
Maybe it was because it was the first World Cup I actually watched England take part in and knew what was going on and I was beside myself with excitement but I would say '82 was anything but lacklustre. A goal up against France after 30 seconds of the first game, maximum points from the group stages and eliminated from a mini-group of death where we more than held our own against West Germany and Keegan missed a sitter against the hosts Spain which would have put us through and them out if it had gone in. We went home undefeated with one goal conceded in 5 games. Ultimately another failure, lot's of 'what ifs', same old England bla, bla, bla...Yes... but lacklustre? No...that is incorrect.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 2, 2018, 09:25:39
Hardly surprising given Bamboo wasn't even alive then.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, July 2, 2018, 09:26:22
In fairness to Mr Keegan, his chance if converted wouldn't have put us through as we needed to win 2-0 in the Spain game to progress ahead of Germany.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 2, 2018, 09:30:14
  I can just about remember back to 58.  The one consistent in English football in this time is the uselessness of the FA. 

  Now we're not alone in this, and it is partly to do with history, but we should have done much better.... the Dutch for example have 3 finals, and won a Euro.

 Doing much better doesn't mean winning every event, but a few more finals, maybe another win and the odd Euro.

 When the FA do get something right, it's usually as a result of a cock up somewhere and then a reaction, usually too late to events.

 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:02:31
If we're talking about sides being consistently undermined by a shambolic FA, from what I can gather that definitely applies to Argentina over the past couple of decades. Which perhaps puts Messi's international record in a slightly kinder light - he's not just been carrying the team, he's been carrying the whole damn structure too.
We're becoming like the Dutch, except instead of weed, we're just wankered on cheap lager the whole time.
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: sums up the 80s perfectly!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:17:20
Fuck sake

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44676893


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:21:35
Fuck sake

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44676893
Indeed. Even worse, the route to the final is causing havoc with my youngest's football schedule - training cancelled tomorrow, he's supposed to be in a tournament on Sat afternoon which will likely be cancelled (or at least his team will likely withdraw) if we win tomorrow, then if we win on Saturday, training for his other team is on Wed evening so that would also be cancelled next week so folks can watch the semi. He's fuming. I've reassured him it's England so he doesn't need to worry :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:23:48
If we're talking about sides being consistently undermined by a shambolic FA, from what I can gather that definitely applies to Argentina over the past couple of decades. Which perhaps puts Messi's international record in a slightly kinder light - he's not just been carrying the team, he's been carrying the whole damn structure too.:

The big difference in this tournament if you watched the two teams is that Portugal give the ball to Ronaldo but then at least provide support and an outlet if required until he gets the opportunity to fall over.

Argentina just give it to Messi and then all stand fucking still and expect him to do something with it, not moving to create space nor actually getting into the box or anything - they went out as 9 of the outfield team were essentially staic.

In the whole GOAT bullshit, its really irrelevant, although in the bigger picture Messi got over 50% more assists than Ronaldo last year (and didn't appeal against his own team being awarded a penalty!) and seems a slightly less objectionable wanker!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:27:12
The big difference in this tournament if you watched the two teams is that Portugal give the ball to Ronaldo but then at least provide support and an outlet if required until he gets the opportunity to fall over.

Argentina just give it to Messi and then all stand fucking still and expect him to do something with it, not moving to create space nor actually getting into the box or anything - they went out as 9 of the outfield team were essentially staic.
Don't disagree, but again doesn't that just all the more burnish the argument that Messi is trying to carry the whole team, including the management, as they all stand and watch and say "Go on then, do something brilliant, we haven't got a clue"?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:37:49
Don't disagree, but again doesn't that just all the more burnish the argument that Messi is trying to carry the whole team, including the management, as they all stand and watch and say "Go on then, do something brilliant, we haven't got a clue"?

Exactamundo my scouse friend.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 10:43:57
Exactamundo my scouse friend.....
Ooo you calling scouse? Eh? eh? Outside, car park, if I'm not there in 5 minutes start without me. Calm down, calm down :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:01:51
Hardly surprising given Bamboo wasn't even alive then.
As I suspected - So he wouldn't know whether it was lacklustre or not...unless he *gasp* copied and pasted  ???

In fairness to Mr Keegan, his chance if converted wouldn't have put us through as we needed to win 2-0 in the Spain game to progress ahead of Germany.
Yes indeed - well remembered, my bad. The point stands though, no one who was actually there at the time I believe would have described England's effort as 'lacklustre'.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:09:06
78 was the first one I remember really. The final constantly being replayed on the subbuteo pitch, with Luque, and Rep always scoring.. 82 we were pretty decent. But I'd moved from Subbuteo to lager and half cut young ladies by then, so the memories arent quite so lucid.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:34:39
I had the World Cup 1978 sticker album, Archie Gemmil springs to mind


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:39:24
78 was the first one I remember really. The final constantly being replayed on the subbuteo pitch, with Luque, and Rep always scoring.. 82 we were pretty decent. But I'd moved from Subbuteo to lager and half cut young ladies by then, so the memories arent quite so lucid.
I am the same, loved 78 as a 12 year old but 82 was a good WC with some amazing players like Eder of Brazil, although my favourite goal probably of all time was Arie Haan vs Italy and beating Dino Zoff from around 40 yards out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF-UNcnfqG0

I missed the 1970 Brazil WC but the 1982 team of Socrates, Eder, Zico, Falcao, Junior, Oscar and Leandro were a joy to watch.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:39:45
78 was the first one I remember really. The final constantly being replayed on the subbuteo pitch, with Luque, and Rep always scoring.. 82 we were pretty decent. But I'd moved from Subbuteo to lager and half cut young ladies by then, so the memories arent quite so lucid.
'74 was the first one I actually remember i.e I had a wall chart and everything and understood what was going on. 16 teams, 4 groups of 4...how times change. It meant so much to me then but I don't really give a shit these days. I've had the games on but just in the background really - I've not watched any of them properly (apart from England v Panama I suppose)...bit sad but that's life...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 11:41:11
I am the same, loved 78 as a 12 year old but 82 was a good WC with some amazing players like Eder of Brazil, although my favourite goal probably of all time was Arie Haan vs Italy and beating Dino Zoff from around 40 yards out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF-UNcnfqG0

I missed the 1970 Brazil WC but the 1982 team of Socrates, Eder, Zico, Falcao, Junior, Oscar and Leandro were a joy to watch.
The Holland team of 74 and 78 are my favourite ever international team. Should have won it both times.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, July 2, 2018, 12:55:57
I was talking to a mate the other day and its also just been mentioned on talk sport.

I dont seem to recall seeing any reports of any violence or hooliganism so for this world cup. Is this a genuine representation of the wold cup, or has there been a media blackout, like some have suggested?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, July 2, 2018, 13:00:37
I was talking to a mate the other day and its also just been mentioned on talk sport.

I dont seem to recall seeing any reports of any violence or hooliganism so for this world cup. Is this a genuine representation of the wold cup, or has there been a media blackout, like some have suggested?

Or maybe the ďladsĒ that would normally go to show Johnny Foreigner just how superior we are have decided to give it a miss after being chased all round France (well Marseille) by their Russian equivalent a couple of summers back and left it to those that just want a few beers & some football


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, July 2, 2018, 13:30:38
As I suspected - So he wouldn't know whether it was lacklustre or not...unless he *gasp* copied and pasted  ???
Yes indeed - well remembered, my bad. The point stands though, no one who was actually there at the time I believe would have described England's effort as 'lacklustre'.

True and that was without Keegan and Brooking who were injured and only appeared in the last game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 2, 2018, 13:46:40
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I was talking to a mate the other day and its also just been mentioned on talk sport.

I dont seem to recall seeing any reports of any violence or hooliganism so for this world cup. Is this a genuine representation of the wold cup, or has there been a media blackout, like some have suggested?

The FSB spoke to the various hooligan gangs and told them to keep away during the World Cup to avoid vetting bad press


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 2, 2018, 13:49:23
I expect Vlad would not want people shitting on his doorstep, so to speak. What Vlad says, goes.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 14:04:09
I expect more England fans to turn up for tomorrows game, but there'll still be more Colombians.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 2, 2018, 14:07:42
As I suspected - So he wouldn't know whether it was lacklustre or not...unless he *gasp* copied and pasted  ???
Yes indeed - well remembered, my bad. The point stands though, no one who was actually there at the time I believe would have described England's effort as 'lacklustre'.

I was born at the end of 1982 and the first one I was properly into/can remember was Euro96.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 14:38:50
I expect more England fans to turn up for tomorrows game, but there'll still be more Colombians.

Its been weird, when you consider that there have been so few England supporters (where the average monthly wage is $3531 a month) yet there are tens of thousands of Peruvians and Colombians (where the average monthly wage is $526 and 496 a month respectively) its not like Russia has large ex pat communities of either and its a bloody long way away.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 14:48:00
I'm guessing a lot are US based supporters.

It was always good when England would take 100k supporters to France, Germany etc. Even took the most to Japan/ South Korea after Brazil.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:16:56
Neymar cried as yet?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:20:02
Proper game this. Fast, direct running. Complete opposite of the turgid crap on show yesterday.  Mexico look very lively.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:20:49
I'm guessing a lot are US based supporters.

Probably subsidised travel, as thank you from Trump to Putin for his election and fixing Brexit....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:22:11
Ah, Trump. Letís thousands out of the country subsidised and then doesnít let them back in.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:29:24
Its been weird, when you consider that there have been so few England supporters (where the average monthly wage is $3531 a month) yet there are tens of thousands of Peruvians and Colombians (where the average monthly wage is $526 and 496 a month respectively) its not like Russia has large ex pat communities of either and its a bloody long way away.

It is odd the amount from South America. I'm pretty sure there won't be nearly as many making the return journey... There were almost 7000 England fans officially at the Belgium game, and probably half as many again unofficial, so not too bad a turnout.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:32:18
A lot of the South American fans wonít be resident in their country. Canít see many Brazil fans looking like theyíve come out of a favela


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 15:55:35
As I suspected - So he wouldn't know whether it was lacklustre or not...unless he *gasp* copied and pasted  ???
Yes indeed - well remembered, my bad. The point stands though, no one who was actually there at the time I believe would have described England's effort as 'lacklustre'.

I haven't copied and pasted anything! Just because I wasn't born doesn't mean I haven't watched any matches before I was born, read anything or listened to others that have spoken about it. People like you are ones that says "oh you wouldn't know anything about that music, you wasn't born then" Fuck off.

Maybe "lacklustre" was the wrong choice of word but it was fucking 1am when I posted it.

Yes we played ok, but my main point on that World Cup was that England were happy to be back with shoots of a team in the making (see '86). No one other than an England fan will likely know that we were unbeaten but didn't make it through. They'd have been more dazzled by a Brazil side that were good enough to win it.

What the fuck is wrong with researching some bits that escaped me, or didn't know? Like I didn't realise Hoddle had Jazz playing in the background as he told his player, individually if they'd made the cut  :soapy tit wank: I understood detail of the 1970 debacle because I'd read "Moore on Mexico" when I was 10. It was my Dad's. Similarly the books "All Played Out" and "The Toughest Job In Football.

Cunt.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:06:06
I haven't copied and pasted anything! Just because I wasn't born doesn't mean I haven't watched any matches before I was born, read anything or listened to others that have spoken about it. People like you are ones that says "oh you wouldn't know anything about that music, you wasn't born then" Fuck off.

Maybe "lacklustre" was the wrong choice of word but it was fucking 1am when I posted it.

Yes we played ok, but my main point on that World Cup was that England were happy to be back with shoots of a team in the making (see '86). No one other than an England fan will likely know that we were unbeaten but didn't make it through. They'd have been more dazzled by a Brazil side that were good enough to win it.

What the fuck is wrong with researching some bits that escaped me, or didn't know? Like I didn't realise Hoddle had Jazz playing in the background as he told his player, individually if they'd made the cut  :soapy tit wank: I understood detail of the 1970 debacle because I'd read "Moore on Mexico" when I was 10. It was my Dad's. Similarly the books "All Played Out" and "The Toughest Job In Football.

Cunt.

I guess the converse is people who say they shouldn't know stuff because it happened before they were born.  Happens a lot in quizzes and pub conversations about music.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:10:18
Fucking  wanker Neymar again,  that'll give the media something to wank about - simple tap in, I could have done that !.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:22:50
Willian is MOM so far for me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:23:41
I haven't copied and pasted anything! Just because I wasn't born doesn't mean I haven't watched any matches before I was born, read anything or listened to others that have spoken about it. People like you are ones that says "oh you wouldn't know anything about that music, you wasn't born then" Fuck off.

Maybe "lacklustre" was the wrong choice of word but it was fucking 1am when I posted it.

Yes we played ok, but my main point on that World Cup was that England were happy to be back with shoots of a team in the making (see '86). No one other than an England fan will likely know that we were unbeaten but didn't make it through. They'd have been more dazzled by a Brazil side that were good enough to win it.

What the fuck is wrong with researching some bits that escaped me, or didn't know? Like I didn't realise Hoddle had Jazz playing in the background as he told his player, individually if they'd made the cut  :soapy tit wank: I understood detail of the 1970 debacle because I'd read "Moore on Mexico" when I was 10. It was my Dad's. Similarly the books "All Played Out" and "The Toughest Job In Football.

Cunt.
I am indeed...finally, after thousands of words of waffle you have hit the nail on the head 8)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:23:58
Fucking  wanker Neymar again,  that'll give the media something to wank about - simple tap in, I could have done that !.

It all started when he was "Poster Boy" of his countries said World Cup. He was shite in that yet this has continued since, comments of "What can Neymar do", "The prowess of Neymar", "The genius that is Neymar". He hasn't lived up or managed his own hype but the ego is still as high as Cristiano Ronaldo's.

He's a little cheating cunt. Period.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:24:13
My God! Neymarís been electrocuted


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:27:50
I am indeed...finally, after thousands of words of waffle you have hit the nail on the head 8)

Kind of missed the point I was investigating RE: England failure associated with drama/things beyond the teams control. 1982 wasn't one of those tournaments we could claim that. We were ok bt there was no drama. We went out because we weren't good enough.

That's ok, I like to waffle and at least I take the time to give a proper response. Even to cunts. Good day to you :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:29:30
My God! Neymarís been electrocuted

..and then Mark Clattenburg proclaims it should've been a Red for violent conduct! He'd been alright up to that point. Neymar was just trying to ruin the match and give Mexico no chance. I hope Mexico score in injury time. The irony.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:30:57
Kind of missed the point I was investigating RE: England failure associated with drama/things beyond the teams control. 1982 wasn't one of those tournaments we could claim that. We were ok bt there was no drama. We went out because we weren't good enough.

That's ok, I like to waffle and at least I take the time to give a proper response. Even to cunts. Good day to you :pint:
8) and  :pint: to you too...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:32:49
I made less fuss when my shoulder got smashed/dislocated


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:35:47
I made less fuss when my shoulder got smashed/dislocated
Than Neymar or bamboo? ;)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:42:57
Than Neymar or bamboo? ;)

 :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:54:18
So glad Brazil got through, the World Cup needs them, Samba football straight from the Copa Cabana, joy to watch and so on and so forth...*


*For all I know they may have been really good - I didn't actually watch the game...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 2, 2018, 16:56:41
Now let Japan knock out Belgium!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 2, 2018, 17:01:10
So glad Brazil got through, the World Cup needs them, Samba football straight from the Copa Cabana, joy to watch and so on and so forth...*


*For all I know they may have been really good - I didn't actually watch the game...

They've a decent workman like side, with a few players who can do something a bit out of the ordinary.  Their main strength is having good balance throughout... perhaps lack a proper centre forward as Jesus is a bit lightweight, but then again you can win a WC without one.

The tourney winner will most likely come from the vainqueur of France/Brazil in the semi


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 17:09:08
They've a decent workman like side, with a few players who can do something a bit out of the ordinary.  Their main strength is having good balance throughout... perhaps lack a proper centre forward as Jesus is a bit lightweight, but then again you can win a WC without one.

The tourney winner will most likely come from the vainqueur of France/Brazil in the semi
Highly likely I would say...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, July 2, 2018, 17:42:52
Now let Japan knock out Belgium!

 :hmmm:

Wouldn't Belgium test Brazil more than Japan and possibly a better spectacle as well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 17:58:09
Jesus is a bit lightweight,

Isn't he a goalkeeper anyway....   ;) :hmmm: 8)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Monday, July 2, 2018, 18:45:40
I guess the converse is people who say they shouldn't know stuff because it happened before they were born.  Happens a lot in quizzes and pub conversations about music.
You can tell Ken Bruce hates it when people use it as an excuse on popmaster!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Monday, July 2, 2018, 18:48:42
They've a decent workman like side, with a few players who can do something a bit out of the ordinary.  Their main strength is having good balance throughout... perhaps lack a proper centre forward as Jesus is a bit lightweight, but then again you can win a WC without one.

The tourney winner will most likely come from the vainqueur of France/Brazil in the semi
If You ask me most Brazilians are "vainqueures"


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:29:27
Why is there no English ref at the WC? I thought each country represented also supplied a ref.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:32:14
Isn't he a goalkeeper anyway....   ;) :hmmm: 8)

I understand he saves.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:33:36
Why is there no English ref at the WC? I thought each country represented also supplied a ref.

No, not the case. I believe there has to be refs from all confederations/continents but the nationality of such doesn't have to be of a qualified team. For example I think there is an Uzbeki and U.S ref at Russia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:34:51
Why is there no English ref at the WC? I thought each country represented also supplied a ref.
Clattenburg was our representitive, went on all the training courses leading up to the tournament and then decided to fuck off to Saudi Arabia leaving no time for another ref to do the courses.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:36:47
Why is there no English ref at the WC? I thought each country represented also supplied a ref.

Nope. Clattenburg was on the list put forward but forfeited his place due to buggering off from the PL to Saudi Arabia (I think?)

We have got Simon Lount though. Born in Leicester but an NZ citizen.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:39:45
Whatís he doing in Saudi? Drilling?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:41:29
Teaching women to drive ?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:46:51
Well Belgium are distinctly average tonight, so far. Japan are retaining them quite well. I want Courtois to have a mare after his comments about Pickford. He may be shorter than your average 'keeper but there have been some great 'keepers under 6ft (no not the dead ones). He'll nearly fucked up at the end of that half.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 2, 2018, 19:53:48
Whoís going to take the lead from the Japanese fans and pick up the litter at the CG after the game finishes?

Just what you want after getting tonked by Crawley et al.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:03:14
Japan score :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:06:20
Japan score :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
I was just thinking WTF...it's 0-0...then realised I must have paused it ages ago and forgotten about it (and was obviously a few mins behind).

I can confirm Japan have scored.... 8)

And it is of course hilarious... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:06:30
This World Cup is mental. In the best possible way.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:07:32
I was just thinking WTF...it's 0-0...then realised I must have paused it ages ago and forgotten about it (and was obviously a few mins behind).

I can confirm Japan have scored.... 8)

And it is of course hilarious... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
2 now :nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:07:54
Holy fuck.

Glad we didn't go Japanese, didn't go Japanese I really think so.

(long way to go)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:08:14
Holy fuck.

Glad we didn't go Japanese, didn't go Japanese I really think so.

(long way to go)
great goal


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:08:34
Whoever wins today will lose to Brazil anyway


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:10:09
Whoever wins today will lose to Brazil anyway
stranger things have happened, Japan beat the world champions


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:10:14
2 now :nod:
Haha! Yes...I was just thinking...'time to stop living in the past, let's get back on real time'...so pressed the Sky button just as the ball was flying in for 2-0. Fuck me!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:11:37
stranger things have happened, Japan beat the world champions

You mean South Korea?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:12:15
You mean South Korea?
:doh:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:12:55
"Southgate is a genius. Deliberately lost to Belgium to avoid the mighty Japan!"  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:13:55
"Southgate is a genius. Deliberately lost to Belgium to avoid the mighty Japan!"  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Might be eating their words this time tomorrow


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:14:31
I was just thinking WTF...it's 0-0...then realised I must have paused it ages ago and forgotten about it (and was obviously a few mins behind).

I can confirm Japan have scored.... 8)

And it is of course hilarious... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
No, hirrarious.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:20:54
Lukaku doing his finest Lukaku impression


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:23:04
This World Cup is incredible,


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:24:30
game on


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:30:11
 :crash:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, July 2, 2018, 20:55:38
Another cracking game,  a bit hard on Japan -  Is 4  minutes added time standard now ?.


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:02:26
Another cracking game,  a bit hard on Japan -  Is 4  minutes added time standard now ?.
Isn't it s'posed to be 30 secs per substitution so that's 3 mins already, another minute for fart arsing around seems reasonable.

Have any of the players the media like to wank about actually had a good tournament?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:04:22
Isn't it s'posed to be 30 secs per substitution so that's 3 mins already, another minute for fart arsing around seems reasonable.

Have any of the players the media like to wank about actually had a good tournament?
Harry kane?


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:05:23
Isn't it s'posed to be 30 secs per substitution so that's 3 mins already, another minute for fart arsing around seems reasonable.

Have any of the players the media like to wank about actually had a good tournament?
Number of substitutions is irrelevant,   its 4 minutes almost every game,  no matter what.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:23:37
The amount of time teams take over free kicks I'm surprised it's not more


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chunkyhair on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:26:57
Fuck fuck fuck - at half time I put a couple of quid on Japan to go through, good odds considering BE looked like they could play all night and not score (a la STFC sometimes). I was thinking of cashing out then the Boring Bastards scored (boring as in all Belgians, not specifically the national team).

Am thinking of posting my bets on TEF so you can all bet opposite and make a fucking fortune!!!!!!!!

 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:34:13
Feel sorry for Japan they were great, if a little naive. Also I've not seen one japanese player chase, the ref, feign injury, time waste, spit and so on. Other teams , in fact all of the other teams should take a leaf out of their book.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:51:58
And the fans tidy up the stadium afterwards and take their rubbish home.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:52:06
The amount of time teams take over free kicks I'm surprised it's not more

Plus the time taken to clear the squad pitch invasion every time someone scores.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:52:50
Feel sorry for Japan they were great, if a little naive. Also I've not seen one japanese player chase, the ref, feign injury, time waste, spit and so on. Other teams , in fact all of the other teams should take a leaf out of their book.
All very good points. They are also very good technical players who just seem to keep running.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Monday, July 2, 2018, 21:54:24
Plus the time taken to clear the squad pitch invasion every time someone scores.

Good point. These days with the need for total adoration, they should add at least a minute per goal for the darlings


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, July 2, 2018, 22:02:39
So are England winning tomorrow or what?

I'm feeling tense and these other rollercoaster last 16 ties haven't helped. Wanted to avoid Colombia from the start as I've had visions of them knocking us out all along.

A repeat of the Denmark 3-0 in 2002 would do just fine thanks...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 2, 2018, 22:10:39
So are England winning tomorrow or what?

This WC has thrown up a few surprises, and beating Columbia would be right up there.

 I'd have preferred the Belgium route, a game v Japan, where we might have headed in a couple from a corner or something, then a crack at Brazil, a last 8 finish acceptable.

Columbia have the corners covered with D Sanchez of Spurs and Yerry Mina of Barca who's about 6 ft 5. 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 22:18:32
It's Colombia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Monday, July 2, 2018, 23:03:19
This WC has thrown up a few surprises, and beating Columbia would be right up there.

 I'd have preferred the Belgium route, a game v Japan, where we might have headed in a couple from a corner or something, then a crack at Brazil, a last 8 finish acceptable.

Columbia have the corners covered with D Sanchez of Spurs and Yerry Mina of Barca who's about 6 ft 5. 

But they are incredibly slow. If we attack with pace, as we've seen then we should be too much for them. Here's hoping.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, July 2, 2018, 23:18:18
3/1 on Columbia if you fancy it, cracking price. Itís an even match in my eyes.

Certainly wouldnít be a surprise if we won, more a surprise we won a knockout game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Monday, July 2, 2018, 23:18:52
IT'S COLOMBIA.

:D I'm terrified, however...


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 2, 2018, 23:39:04
Number of substitutions is irrelevant,   its 4 minutes almost every game,  no matter what.

Probably due to the amount of VAR time


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 2, 2018, 23:49:35
Feel sorry for Japan they were great, if a little naive.
If only someone had told them the game is 90 minutes plus stoppage not 70. Always run out of steam. But desperately unlucky not to at least take it into extra time and lose then


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 07:03:47
feel sorry for Japan in so much as they gave Belgium a hell of a fight.

less so that they turned the Poland game intro a farce at the end, and only got through on dodgy criteria in the first place. They were the Bez of the knockout phase.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 08:57:43
Fuck fuck fuck - at half time I put a couple of quid on Japan to go through, good odds considering BE looked like they could play all night and not score (a la STFC sometimes). I was thinking of cashing out then the Boring Bastards scored (boring as in all Belgians, not specifically the national team).

Am thinking of posting my bets on TEF so you can all bet opposite and make a fucking fortune!!!!!!!!

 

I went the other way as immediately after Belgium got one back there was only going to be one winner, so made a few quid.

Incidentally Japan were the first team that I have watched genuinely tire towards the end, most of the poorer quality teams have been very fit and been able to press for the full 90 minutes.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 09:04:51
Debatable if it actually exists, for most men they'll happily produce sperm into their 80's, for which I am grateful.


So, reading between the lines.

The Colombian coach is 68 but looks much older.

Can Pťkerman inspire his team to stand firm and deliver or will the pressure to perform result in a flaccid display.

I feel that the power of young Harry's shooting might be too much for them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 09:37:53
So, reading between the lines.

The Colombian coach is 68 but looks much older.

Can Pťkerman inspire his team to stand firm and deliver or will the pressure to perform result in a flaccid display.

I feel that the power of young Harry's shooting might be too much for them.

Pekerman has Nestor carrying his cojones... he'll be fine  :flaccid:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 15:30:17
God awful game on now. Get past Colombia and weíre in the semis


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 15:43:24
God awful game on now. Get past Colombia and weíre in the semis
Hmm, the two don't necessarily equate. Sweden look like the kind of side who do indeed produce god-awful games but can be very difficult to play against. Like Iceland, for example


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 15:50:00
we're always shit against Sweden. Come on the Swiss


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 15:52:15
I like Toblerone but hate Ikea. So, yes, come on Switzerland


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 15:57:38
Henderson and Dier would look positively mobile against Sweden.  Theyíd still probably beat us 1-0.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:04:38
we're always shit against Sweden. Come on the Swiss

Up to when we beat them at a Euro prob 12, it was something like 40+ years since we'd last won.

Let's face it we're not terribly good at this football lark.... for that to change we'll need to start beating teams in KO situations, think it's 2 at WC since 90.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:16:15
The guality on show is fucking shocking. Early season James dunne would look quality here in midfield and these are worse finishers than Shaun close


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:23:58
Fucking bollocks! Wifey has to stay at work til 7 this evening and Iíve got to pick her up.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:26:06
I think with Sweden if you score first against them you are OK, they defend for their lives and are otherwise hard to break down


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:26:14
Tell her to get the bus/a taxi/walk.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: china red on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:30:18
Fucking bollocks! Wifey has to stay at work til 7 this evening and Iíve got to pick her up.

Taxi for mrs Bellend


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:37:06
Apparently, someone had to go home early for Ďpersonalí reasons. The fucker is getting home early to watch the game.

Tbf, she loves her footy as well, so sheís well pissed off too.

Mulling about watching it on +1 but Iím bound to hear next doorís cheers (or groans).


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:43:13
Apparently, someone had to go home early for Ďpersonalí reasons. The fucker is getting home early to watch the game.

Tbf, she loves her footy as well, so sheís well pissed off too.

Mulling about watching it on +1 but Iím bound to hear next doorís cheers (or groans).

How long will it take to get home? Surely you'll only miss the first 20mins. Also, moan about it on Mumsnet  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:44:50
Well, you pick her up and miss the first 20 mins then!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:54:17
Mulling about watching it on +1 but Iím bound to hear next doorís cheers (or groans).

Won't they be watching the football rather than just having a shag?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:54:31
I think with Sweden if you score first against them you are OK, they defend for their lives and are otherwise hard to break down

Completely agree. They work hard, defend well, have a good shape but break quite well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 16:56:35
Well, you pick her up and miss the first 20 mins then!

Perspective my boy. It'd take me a couple hours to get down there. I'll be opening a bottle of beer in in a few minutes  :soapy tit wank: :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 17:49:44
Well, you pick her up and miss the first 20 mins then!

Rather than +1, do you have a sky box or the like? Just press pause until you get back.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 17:57:02
Or alternatively man the fuck up. Tell her you don't need to hear these problems on the day of the match and you'll see her when you see her. When she walks through the door tell her to get you another cold one. Easy.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 17:57:54
Rather than +1, do you have a sky box or the like? Just press pause until you get back.
What a great idea. Would that work with a Virgin TiVo box?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 17:58:44
Or alternatively man the fuck up. Tell her you don't need to hear these problems on the day of the match and you'll see her when you see her. When she walks through the door tell her to get you another cold one. Easy.
You could try telling her that. Burial or cremation?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:03:23
You could try telling her that. Burial or cremation?
Take my advice or leave it. Man or mouse?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:04:01
Pass the cheddar!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:15:06
What a great idea. Would that work with a Virgin TiVo box?

yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:19:41
Will it stay in pause for over 30 minutes though


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:21:04
Pass the cheddar!
Yep. Me too. Lucky I like cheddar.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:22:18
Nervous now for some reason  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:22:55
Will it stay in pause for over 30 minutes though

Almost certainly. Pretty sure you can pause for up to an hour and a half. Just had a quick look on this forum.


https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/679302/pausing-rewinding-live-tv


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:25:17
Cheers!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 18:26:26
No Rodriguez  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 19:26:21
Sterling :flaccid:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 19:27:53
Columbia are toothless up front and look like they will tire later in the game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 19:33:43
Rashford would have a field day out there


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:12:34
Rashford would have a field day out there
Possibly so, but getting the impression that rather than winning the tournament they main objective is to get Sterling a goal?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:13:02
yay


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:17:03
Come on


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:17:37
Antics now


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:22:48
Columbia have lost their heads & the game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:23:11
Gotta be a red soon for falco


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:27:41
Fuck calming it down. let's self destruct too and turn the whole thing into a riot.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:27:55
Gonna be about 10 mins of added time here!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:28:31
Getting silly now


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:28:59
Gotta be a red soon for falco
I fear its more likely we will be getting one...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:52:10
football is coming on my unwilling face.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:52:19
FFS


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:52:34
Knew it


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:52:49
Why is a Brazilian celebrating that goal? Odd twat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:56:44
Columbia have been shit


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:56:51
If England go out I hope a European side win the tournament.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:58:17
I honestly don't mean this in any sort of mocking way, but I hope you have practiced penalties this time. Pickford is not bad with them


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 20:58:50
It won't reach penalties


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:00:13
Everything that I've ever known following England says there's no way we're winning this now.

That goal and the scorer were so predictable.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:00:28
Iím really torn. I backed Colombia at £25 @ around 110-1 on betfair in the 80th minute. Itís a shame as Iíve really enjoyed the game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:00:39
As much as I donít want England to win, Colombia are a disgrace. Fucking complain about everything, keep giving stupid fouls away and not really trying to play football. Be interesting to see what England composure is like now after that knock back. Still fancy England to win as Colombia offered very little so far.

Colombia need to exploit the wings if they want to create chances


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:00:50
Columbia are worn out, it's there for the taking


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:07:29
I'm going out into the garden, this is miserable


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:18:01
same old same old...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:24:47
we've gone from being in total control to now looking on the fucking ropes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:28:12
Pens and I'm off out


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:30:19
It's coming home soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:32:26
was that Nestor lorenzo that barged sterling at half time


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:37:32
Yay penalties  :wotjump:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:37:50
Well, you will win one one day. As I said Pickford is not bad on penalties


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:38:23
Yay penalties  :wotjump:
:suicide:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:39:26
I am going to rename them benalties. because I'm ace.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:40:24
Got to lay the ghost some time -now is a good time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:46:31
oh dear


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:48:59
oh yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:49:12
ow my hernia


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:50:13
I only had the oporation yesterday I think I might have pulled my stitches out


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:50:34
England penalties have cost me my life


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:50:56
Rip me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:51:42
The park was serene, then I heard cheers  :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:52:07
Told you


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:57:22
Fair play England.  Better team overall. Only minor concern is lack of goals from open play but you can only beat whatís in front of you. Think the game against Sweden will be a cagey affair but expect England to narrowly win.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:57:34
Told you

Top man  :)
I've set a precedent now, I've watched all England pen failures for 30+ years, this is the first I've missed. Will never watch another.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:58:31
Told you
Sio it takes a fucking German to tell us we can win a penalty shoot out. Don't you ever get these wrong


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 21:58:33
Now the post mortem can begin..

We may as well have played with 9 players,

Lingard did absolutely fuck all (forgot he was playing for most of the game), Alli is either way off fitness or completely our of form and Kane vanished for the last half an hour, seemed to be playing centre mid....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:00:53
Now the post mortem can begin..

We may as well have played with 9 players,

Lingard did absolutely fuck all (forgot he was playing for most of the game), Alli is either way off fitness or completely our of form and Kane vanished for the last half an hour, seemed to be playing centre mid....
Let's enjoy the night. Apart from the first 15 minutes of extra time we were by far the better team. There is still a lot of growth in this team. Managed and team are still learning. Drink up and be happy.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:01:54
I'm supposed to be going to bed now, fuck knows how I'm going to sleep after tha


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:03:58
Sio it takes a fucking German to tell us we can win a penalty shoot out. Don't you ever get these wrong

Sometimes, I am a Swindon fan afterall and we all know our record in the shootouts :-)


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:04:34
Let's enjoy the night. Apart from the first 15 minutes of extra time we were by far the better team. There is still a lot of growth in this team. Managed and team are still learning. Drink up and be happy.
I'm off the booze so that's probably where the problem lies....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:06:02
Wow. Incredibly mature performance over the 90mins.

Excellent ref.
This surrounding of the referee needs to be clamped down on.

Fuck me. Game on.

Get beyond the next game and we might get reminded that England have never won a World Cup with the Tories in power.  :)

 :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:08:27
Sometimes, I am a Swindon fan afterall and we all know our record in the shootouts :-)
Today I can even love Germans. Actually, I've never met one I haven't liked. I feel I will have a headache tomorrow. The experience this team will have gained tonight will be invaluable.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: cdakev on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:10:51
The Reds beat the Yellows  which should happen every single time !


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:12:10
Let's enjoy the night. Apart from the first 15 minutes of extra time we were by far the better team. There is still a lot of growth in this team. Managed and team are still learning. Drink up and be happy.

Spot on Chalkies, plenty of time for a thorough analysis but tonight is about celebration. Cheers!  :beers:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:14:01
If you attack Sweden, they will collapse like a cheap ikea desk and victory shall be yours


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:14:10
Spot on Chalkies, plenty of time for a thorough analysis but tonight is about celebration. Cheers!  :beers:
Ells I hope you are enjoying flying the flag in Welsh Wales. Let's all just get pissed, enjoy the moment and fuck tomorrow until tomorrow


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:15:48
First time i've never been nervous in a shoot out. Never raised a single heartbeat, as I knew we'd win it. Poor game. mainly due to Columbia. Disgraceful side.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:15:54
Ells I hope you are enjoying flying the flag in Welsh Wales. Let's all just get pissed, enjoy the moment and fuck tomorrow until tomorrow

I did tell a Welshman to fuck off. He has since fucked off.  :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:19:09
:suicide:

 :bye:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:20:13
I did tell a Welshman to fuck off. He has since fucked off.  :pint:
Well done. He should be humbled that one of his colonial masters deemed it fit to tell him to fuck off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:29:57
Things you never used to hear managers or players say #1 - "we owned the process" Southgate on practicing pens...professional, cool, analytical...could have been Dave Brailsford or Clive Woodward. At one time it would have been..."oooh, penalties are a total lottery, there's no point practicing for them"...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:35:55
Who are Englands potential semi final opponents ?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:36:45
Russia or Croatia


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:38:47
Delighted and astonished.

What a feeling.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: ferret on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:44:23
Ells I hope you are enjoying flying the flag in Welsh Wales. Let's all just get pissed, enjoy the moment and fuck tomorrow until tomorrow

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G9M9Vaa4wUI

Letís not forget their (recent) past behaviour

Half the reason why I want us to win is for the opportunity to rub their faces right in it  :smugfu:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:47:55
https://twitter.com/JanAageFjortoft/status/1014250822182502401?s=19


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 22:55:48
Russia or Croatia

I'll have a word.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 23:38:16
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G9M9Vaa4wUI

Letís not forget their (recent) past behaviour

Half the reason why I want us to win is for the opportunity to rub their faces right in it  :smugfu:

But Wales are minnows compared to Iceland, plus the mighty Iceland actually played in the World Cup  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 23:49:14
Fair play England.  Better team overall. Only minor concern is lack of goals from open play but you can only beat whatís in front of you. Think the game against Sweden will be a cagey affair but expect England to narrowly win.
At this level theyíre all cagey.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 23:55:09
The  bitterness is coming out from the usual suspects, it's great, makes me very happy  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 00:30:01
Delighted and astonished.

What a feeling.

Exactly... what it's about. Well done Gareth and the lads, restored some pride....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bennett on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 06:21:16
Well done England. That ref should never be allowed his whistle again, other than giving a (justified) penalty, he was fucking useless


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 08:37:28
Horrible bunch of bastards they were, made it all the sweeter(as if it wasn't sweet enough already). We didn't create anywhere near enough, yet we're through and only the next match counts now.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 08:49:15
Colombian fans all over Twitter think they were robbed and the ref was our 12th man. It's quite bizarre.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 08:53:51
Colombian fans all over Twitter think they were robbed and the ref was our 12th man. It's quite bizarre.

They were lucky to not have one or two sent off so don't see what they are complaining about.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 08:54:57
They were dirty fuckers.

And how colombian fans can say the ref was on our side is beyond me. Have they forgotten their guy heabutting one of ours yet not getting a red?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 09:11:11
Well what a night, the game was average at best, we didn't create enough through open play and our corners were very poor, a few mistakes at the back nearly cost us dearly.

They did not deserve the draw, they were cynical, dirty and made few attempts not to kick us, the headbutt was a red card no question, the ref didn't get a grip all game.

Justice was served with the penalties, I am still shocked we had never won one at the WC before and so glad we won, it didn't look good when Henderson missed.

I enjoyed it although I am not sure my old ticker will take any more like that!

There is now a great path to the final and it isn't beyond us but lets take it one game at a time!

Sterling I thought had his best game in a while but how Alli still plays is beyond me, Loftus-Cheek is a better option IMO.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 09:18:30
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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 09:18:58


Sterling I thought had his best game in a while

Frustrating in the first half but I thought he did OK in the 2nd once he stopped running into dead ends.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 09:49:07
Just going to leave this here:

https://twitter.com/abdullah_gh/status/1014244808381038592?s=12

We didn't play "well" because we were playing knockout football against a decent side who culturally will do anything and everything to cheat and con their way to victory, like most SA sides.

To come through that was massive. That was a 50/50 game.

Lingard, Alli will be much better suited to playing against Sweden. I'd have had RLC in there last night, and Vardy not Sterling but it doesn't matter.

If we attack the Swedes with pace and intensity, we'll be big big favourites.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:27:58
Going to be a brutal game to watch Saturday, they are so solid at the back with little going forward.  It will be us just trying to break them down to get that first goal.

For the first time since Ď96 i now feel there is a chance, albeit quite small, we could win a major tournament. I never expected to have feeling again in my lifetime, well done Gareth.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:43:43
The bizarre thing is that Colombia could have possibly beaten us at football but instead decided to try and kick us out the game, funny old approach.

Positive thing is that we have got this far with a few players not playing anywhere near how well they can play, so things could get even better?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 10:50:12
The bizarre thing is that Colombia could have possibly beaten us at football but instead decided to try and kick us out the game, funny old approach.

Positive thing is that we have got this far with a few players not playing anywhere near how well they can play, so things could get even better?

It did play into our hands somewhat.... come what may on Saturday, a last 8 finish and winning a pen shoot out, with a young side is a decent achievement.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 11:18:13
Should have been a red but Henderson got a cheeky little butt in later on.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 12:11:19
Its....

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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: blah blah on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 12:42:06
I cant believe that more hasnt been made of the blatant attempts by Columbia to scuff up the penalty spot before Kane took his penalty during the game. You cant blame the ref at the time, as he had 10 players surrounding him shouting in his face, but surely the 4th official/VAR refs must have noticed it ? If that isnt unsportsman-like conduct worthy of a yellow card, I dont know what is. Having said that though, I also cant believe more yellows werent dished out for the abuse of the ref. One of the worst examples of that I've seen for a long time, probably since Alex Ferguson retired  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 12:46:44
I cant believe that more hasnt been made of the blatant attempts by Columbia to scuff up the penalty spot before Kane took his penalty during the game. You cant blame the ref at the time, as he had 10 players surrounding him shouting in his face, but surely the 4th official/VAR refs must have noticed it ? If that isnt unsportsman-like conduct worthy of a yellow card, I dont know what is. Having said that though, I also cant believe more yellows werent dished out for the abuse of the ref. One of the worst examples of that I've seen for a long time, probably since Alex Ferguson retired  :girlgiggle:
Agreed that shit needs to be stamped out across the board. Colombia were horrible horrible bastards who got what they deserved...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 12:47:41
Agreed that shit needs to be stamped out across the board. Colombia were horrible horrible bastards who got what they deserved...
Exactly.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 14:35:32
I thought England were ok yesterday no more.

Did well to stand up to the provocation but honestly lacking in creativity, and that is throughout the tournament.  The goals have come from pens or set pieces.

When Colombia decide to try and play in last 10 mins of normal time and 1st half of ET they could have put England away .....

If England don't score in first 20 mins of Sweden game expect ET and Pens again ....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 14:52:39
 ::)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44711284


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:03:34
::)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44711284

Fuck me, slow news day BBC?? Who gives a fuck if MPs had to stay in Parliament during the match. We all have (or know people) had to work late sometimes and if you're on c£80k pa then there's no grounds for complaint. Do your fucking job and stop whinging.

Btw, kinda wrong thread  ;)

#BunchOfCunts


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:42:44
Fuck me, slow news day BBC?? Who gives a fuck if MPs had to stay in Parliament during the match. We all have (or know people) had to work late sometimes and if you're on c£80k pa then there's no grounds for complaint. Do your fucking job and stop whinging.
That's the sort of treatment they expect to be dished out to the lower orders on shift work/gig economy, not the "professional" classes. I see Teresa May is claiming she "couldn't watch" the penalties - yeah, course. "Had about as much interest as Blair or Cameron did when they pretended to like football" is more like it. Tossers


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:00:51
Basically that game, we won three times.

Ahead, should've stayed ahead. Colombia realised around 75mins that in order to go through they'd have to play some football to actually score. They did this and the game settled to something more like football.The Pickford save of which was awesome led to a corner and you just knew they'd score. Even then Trippier was unlucky trying to head back over his bar. He admitted this at FTAET and put his hands up. He said he thought Mina was going to head it straight so timed his jump accordingly. Mina headed down and the inevitable happened. Hindsight but had Pickford left the initial shot beforehand it was just swinging away from goal. No corner, likely no goal as it was 90+3.

Oh well, no biggy. Was all about composure. Wasn't massively concerned during extra time. I knew Colombia would press in the first half of ET, however they burned out and England soaked it up, like a boxer easing off in a round to take them in the next. How the teams approached the second half of ET was important to me. The team that came out attacking would be the ones looking to win. The team holding back would be looking to only win via penalties. England came out and had a go. Colombia had little left in the tank as Rose went close with a low drive across the goal, Vardy nearly snuck one in and then Dier's free header at the end. We certainly weren't holding back. Alas, it was on to penalties...

A game never devoid of dirty tactics and scrappy play. The kind of game I call "lumpy football". Due to Colombia's lack of play through most of the match, England couldn't quite keep it on the ground all the time. We even had to play them at their game at times yet without getting overly drawn into their game. Harry Maguire was immense and took no shit.

It wasn't the best England performance by far but a tough game. Tougher than Sweden will be perhaps.

Pickford was great value and hopefully it shut that prick up Courtois.

A game of two very different sides ultimately. One playing gamesmanship another playing sportsmanship. I'm glad sportsmanship won over in the end. The class of Henderson going over to James Rodriguez in the bench at the end, really showed why these lads can go far. We won, we won with grace and respect, even when the other team weren't reciprocating. Hopefully that's gained us a few friends in the World Football community.

Come on you fuckers!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:15:55
That's the sort of treatment they expect to be dished out to the lower orders on shift work/gig economy, not the "professional" classes. I see Teresa May is claiming she "couldn't watch" the penalties - yeah, course. "Had about as much interest as Blair or Cameron did when they pretended to like football" is more like it. Tossers

That's the thing though, one of my sisters is the Head of HR  :suicide: and partner of a large company. She's missed loads of stuff (family events/nice things etc.) and she absolutely hates that she does, however she totally understands that the responsibility of her role means that sacrifices have to be made. When these cunts moan about it, while being paid from the public purse it really pisses me off. Part of me is glad if some of the SNPs delayed on purpose. Likelihood is though that those issues and their job in parliament is more important, long term, than a football match. More proof that most of them are just in it for a fucking jolly.

Again, #BunchOfCunts


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:17:24
Been out all morning, has anyone shed any light on what happened to Kane second half as he dropped incredibly deep and didn't see much of the ball, if he was playing the no.10 role it would have made sense to take Sterling off and bring Vardy on?

James Rodriguez has an extremely punchable face.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:22:13
Been out all morning, has anyone shed any light on what happened to Kane second half as he dropped incredibly deep and didn't see much of the ball, if he was playing the no.10 role it would have made sense to take Sterling off and bring Vardy on?

I may be being whooshed here but that's exactly what they did?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:22:51
Been out all morning, has anyone shed any light on what happened to Kane second half as he dropped incredibly deep and didn't see much of the ball, if he was playing the no.10 role it would have made sense to take Sterling off and bring Vardy on?

James Rodriguez has an extremely punchable face.....

Vardy did come on for Sterling though...

Agree RE: Rodriguez. Although it was still a touch of class from Henderson.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:25:43
Vardy did come on for Sterling though...

Agree RE: Rodriguez. Although it was still a touch of class from Henderson.

After 88 minutes when we thought it was done and dusted...... hardly tactical


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:39:45
After 88 minutes when we thought it was done and dusted...... hardly tactical

To be fair, it probably became more enforced with Alli nursing his injury (Kane dropping deeper to protect midfield). If anything Alli should have been taken off after we got the lead and let Rashford have a good 30mins at them. Kane didn't really 'disappear' so much. The game was full of dirty shit which, even if he was the target of, Kane kept himself out of the ensuing afters that Colombia so desperately wanted to create (a retaliating punch or whatever from England) in order to get us to see red. Credit to Kane for keeping out of that.

 England clearly changed their shape to go more 'wing attack' which as you state, left Kane in a more No.10 role. In all honesty it was probably in more sense to settle off as Kane looked like he was up for it all game, composed, calm, ready to go up another two gears. Pretty much what you want from a captain. In fact, what's great is we have several leaders on the pitch. Maguire, Trippier, Henderson and Kane all showing calmness and grit under pressure. It's encouraging.

 All those subs did make an impact. Dier, Vardy and Rose all went close to scoring. Dier really should've put the free header away but I think he mistimed it and it came off his shoulder. Only real gripe was, as I say, Rashford should've come on earlier to give him more chance to really run at them. Kane would've had chance to pick up the scraps.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 17:35:29
That's the sort of treatment they expect to be dished out to the lower orders on shift work/gig economy, not the "professional" classes. I see Teresa May is claiming she "couldn't watch" the penalties - yeah, course. "Had about as much interest as Blair or Cameron did when they pretended to like football" is more like it. Tossers

The Russians have invited May to come along to the WC and join the party, happily so far she's refused. Happily, as I don't want her being seen to represent the country at a football match.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 20:57:25
The Russians have invited May to come along to the WC and join the party, happily so far she's refused. Happily, as I don't want her being seen to represent the country at a football match.
Corbyn would have been over by now had he been invited.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:10:53
Classless :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44716774


Title: Re: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:24:26
Corbyn would have been over by now had he been invited.
Why?

You do realise that Russia is not remotely socialist anymore and hasn't been since the early 90's....?

Remind me which party is being heavily funded by Russian cash and has ministers meeting with those suspected by Robert Mueller of being Russian agents linked to getting Trump over the line.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:26:35
Keep your political bollocks to the politics thread, please.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:27:21
^^ What she said


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:35:48
Agreed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 21:38:16
The Russians have invited May to come along to the WC and join the party, happily so far she's refused. Happily, as I don't want her being seen to represent the country at a football match.
I'll have her ticket if she's not going to use it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 09:49:03
Bloody hell there are only 7 games left in the whole tournament... The Friday quarters look like better games than the Saturday ones...

A Russia England semi could be quite tasty....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 10:11:46
Bloody hell there are only 7 games left in the whole tournament... The Friday quarters look like better games than the Saturday ones...

A Russia England semi could be quite tasty....

*****PEDANTRY KLAXON*******

It's 8 games left.  Maybe you were overlooking the meaningless 3rd place playoff?


******PEDANTRY KLAXON*******


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 10:27:12
*****PEDANTRY KLAXON*******

It's 8 games left.  Maybe you were overlooking the meaningless 3rd place playoff?


******PEDANTRY KLAXON*******

No I just can't count!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 10:52:23
Classless :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44716774

I've watched that again and again and can't even see the slightest hint of a foul by Kane. Pathetic, bitter, and as you say, classless.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 10:56:57
I've watched that again and again and can't even see the slightest hint of a foul by Kane. Pathetic, bitter, and as you say, classless.

Maradona in Classless shocker!

Been nice to see Southgate getting the plaudits he deserves, both for coaching the team but also the class he showed towards the Colombian players at the end.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:01:53
Corbyn would have been over by now had he been invited.

Russia haven't had a decent left winger since Sergey Ilyinin the late 1920's and through the 30's.

JC likes his football and might have a soft spot for former Gunner, Andrei Arshavin.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:30:43
I suppose when you've snorted half of Colombia and clearly are still doing so then you'd have a soft spot for them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:00:15
In case any of you were wondering...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-44724516/england-world-cup-why-fans-sing-football-s-coming-home


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 14:58:31
Russia haven't had a decent left winger since Sergey Ilyinin the late 1920's and through the 30's.

JC likes his football and might have a soft spot for former Gunner, Andrei Arshavin.

Sergei Kirov wasn't bad.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 15:22:26
Sergei Kirov wasn't bad.

Mikhail Bakunin could play a bit in the very early days.
Definitely a team player as well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: ferret on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 16:52:09
In case any of you were wondering...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-44724516/england-world-cup-why-fans-sing-football-s-coming-home

The BBC with its finger on the pulse of the average individual, as usual  ::)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:02:35
I'd like to see France and Belgium win today.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:56:46
Classless :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44716774

Yet another example, as if it were needed, that Maradonna is a Cunt, a Collosal Bell End, an infected carbunkle on the arse of the footballing world.

Cunt.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:57:57
Quote from: 4D
I'd like to see France and Belgium win today.

I'd like to see Brazil lose. But don't care about the other game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 6, 2018, 11:28:31
I'd like to see Brazil lose. But don't care about the other game

If Brazil win, we have won it haven't we, might as well accept the inevitable and not bother with the other games?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 6, 2018, 11:40:29
If Brazil win, we have won it haven't we, might as well accept the inevitable and not bother with the other games?

Good point. We should be given a bye and just skip to the final.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:42:12
There's a petition to get the Colombia v England game replayed.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:45:58
There's a petition to get the Colombia v England game replayed.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
From who?(The Columbian fans I guess) but why exactly? the dirty cheating bastards.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:53:42
David Squires has been predictably excellent during the World Cup, here's his latest:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/jul/06/david-squires-on-england-dark-arts-and-their-world-cup-campaign


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:55:20
David Squires has been predictably excellent during the World Cup, here's his latest:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/jul/06/david-squires-on-england-dark-arts-and-their-world-cup-campaign

Enjoyed that


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, July 6, 2018, 12:56:15
The day after the game a Russian colleague said the referee had it out for Colombia and we were lucky that was the case.

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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 6, 2018, 13:02:44
The day after the game a Russian colleague said the referee had it out for Colombia and we were lucky that was the case.

Does he work for Russia Today?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 6, 2018, 13:03:14
The day after the game a Russian colleague said the referee had it out for Colombia and we were lucky that was the case.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/glmRyiSI3v5E4/giphy.gif)

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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 6, 2018, 13:04:54
Like when he gave a yellow for a red card offence?  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:11:36
Oh my


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:24:04
The day after the game a Russian colleague said the referee had it out for Colombia and we were lucky that was the case.

Does your colleague live in the Salisbury area?  :hmmm:

Just watching the Brazil Belgium game, not noticed before but they are drinking in the stands, why not over here?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:25:43
but they are drinking in the stands, why not over here?

Because the English are terrible drinkers?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:28:51
Because the English are terrible drinkers?

Maybe it's drinking game; swig of beer if Neymar dives, shot when Neymar acts like he has been shot/cries


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:30:52
Brazil have got that distinct 'we could be hit for 7 here' look about them again. Knife through butter.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:31:04
Bye, bye Brazil :bye:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:31:26
Hahaha fuck off Neymar


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 6, 2018, 19:45:05
Quote from: Ells
Hahaha fuck off Neymar
x2


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 6, 2018, 20:09:33
He is not a brilliant player, he is over-rated and a cheat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, July 6, 2018, 20:51:13
Only European countries left in now!  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 6, 2018, 20:51:55
Lovely  ;D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, July 6, 2018, 21:04:55
I'd like to see France and Belgium win today.
You Did !!, bet you'd have got a great price on that  double at the bookies.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, July 6, 2018, 21:08:04
Yet another example, as if it were needed, that Maradonna is a Cunt, a Collosal Bell End, an infected carbunkle on the arse of the footballing world.

Cunt.
Say what you mean,  Don't sit on the fence.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Friday, July 6, 2018, 21:41:03
Does your colleague live in the Salisbury area?  :hmmm:

Just watching the Brazil Belgium game, not noticed before but they are drinking in the stands, why not over here?


Allowed there, I've seen pints in every game. I've got a great beer radar.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 6, 2018, 21:42:51
You Did !!, bet you'd have got a great price on that  double at the bookies.

I'd like to see England and Croatia win tomorrow  ;)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Friday, July 6, 2018, 22:33:24
So it's now the European Championships and England are one of six who can win the Vodka Cup.

The Blue Onions play the Belgian Premier All Stars.

The Kockasti Croutons play the Sbornaya Vodka Chuggers.

&

A Trio of Lions play the Turnip Imposters.

#ComeOnYouNeymars


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 06:14:17
Has anybody got any good Kane / Southgate fanfiction erotica? Think I'm a bit of a KaneGate shipper.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 08:17:18
Surely Swedens defence have more guile than the 'robust' defending at corners we have seen against England thus far? Score first & you will win, if not prepare for extra time etc


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 08:41:17
that's my thoughts too my German friend.

very compact and tight defending, in numbers, and England haven't created much from open play.

I fear Sweden scoring first from a deer piece and shutting shop.

if they have to come at us, and we can keep them out, we'll pick them off


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 09:05:04
They've only conceded two goals this tournament, against Germany.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 09:33:38
I have a bad feeling about today, not confident at all.

Still I have been very wrong many times before.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:36:40
One of my mates friends did this to his house in Bristol today.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/470var3ad/36726605_10155718311760686_4244099640376426496_n.jpg)

 :no: :headhurts:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:37:05
Craptacular!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:38:14
Craptacular!
Seriously awful isn't it! why the hell do people do that sort of thing?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:38:24
Fucking hell that's dreadful  :no:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:40:43
Not even funny shit...just...what have you done.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 11:59:18
One of my mates friends did this to his house in Bristol today.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/470var3ad/36726605_10155718311760686_4244099640376426496_n.jpg)

 :no: :headhurts:

Is there still a lot of ketamine about in Brizzle?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 12:09:28
Is there still a lot of ketamine about in Brizzle?

Asking for a friend?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 13:38:21
England unchanged.  Let's get this done.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: PlymRed on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:23:59
I suddenly feel ridiculously nervous. Ahhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:49:48
Here we go  :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:14:46
Scrappy start


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:18:16
You will get them on the break later in the game


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:19:40
Too negative


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:27:48
Boom


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:45:29
If Sterling could play football he would be a world beater....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:50:57
He's playing well but on a finishing par with woolery. Alli a passenger like all other games. We're looking good though. At least we want a game of football. One goal lead though makes for a very nervous game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 15:53:27
Swedens game plan has fallen apart like a piece of ikea furniture, it's game over already


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:09:34
England remind me a lot like Burnley. By no means the best team in this tournament but good defensively and good at set pieces. In one off games they can beat anyone.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:12:40
fuck yeah


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:12:41
Get in


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:20:04
I'm still nervous  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:41:45
so close you can taste the novichok


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:50:21
Nice to see a dignified losing side


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:50:45
Job done and thoroughly deserved.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 16:58:10
this isn't, it wasn't, what the..

easy


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 17:06:01
 Both goalscorers played v Town about 5 years ago in Div 3.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 17:25:49
so close you can taste the novichok

There does seem to be a script written.... plenty of natural links between Russia and Croatia as both Slav peoples, and Croatia is the corruption capital of south east Europe....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 20:26:22
Gonna be getting a lot of support if we end up playing Croatia, at least!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 20:28:57
Russia are like Sweden, I'd prefer them. Croatia are very like us. That would be 0-0 or 1-1 and pens


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:06:39
Penalties I reckon


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:08:09
Uh oh


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:40:43
They all look knackered. There's going to be some misses here I reckon.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:45:36
Modric penalty sums it up


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:49:26
Glad Croatia won. Technically much better side and makes for a good semi final.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:50:04
I like Bilic


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 21:54:18
Do they still do 3rd v 4th place playoff?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 22:00:06
Do they still do 3rd v 4th place playoff?

Yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 22:38:59
Glad Croatia won. Technically much better side and makes for a good semi final.
Completely agree, plus if there is going to be a backlash from the Russian hoolies at getting knocked out, I'd rather our lot weren't on the end of it


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 22:39:23
Modric penalty sums it up
Thought he was good in This Country though


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 22:47:58
Who would everyone pick for the semi-final then? Personally I still think Rose would add much more attacking threat, but I can understand Southgate's persistence with the same line up seems to be paying dividends. Sterling has definitely offered more the last couple of games, while at the same time continuing to frustrate.

I keep thinking it would be typical of England to fuck up here, so I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 22:53:53
I keep thinking it would be typical of England to fuck up here, so I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.
Not sure "fuck up"  is quite the phrase even if we lose the semi, we've massively exceeded expectations getting this far. And played some nice football along the way


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:03:13
Not sure "fuck up"  is quite the phrase even if we lose the semi, we've massively exceeded expectations getting this far. And played some nice football along the way

I don't mean I've been thinking that since we won earlier, I mean I've been thinking that prior to our games vs. Colombia and Sweden.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:03:25
Joined this forum maybe 15+ yrs ago. Fck the lot of you. I "m Swindon forever & England when I feel like it. Love you all forever. What a day.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:04:41
I don't mean I've been thinking that since we won earlier, I mean I've been thinking that prior to our games vs. Colombia and Sweden.
Fair dos. Apologies, I misunderstood


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:05:29
Joined this forum maybe 15+ yrs ago. Fck the lot of you. I "m Swindon forever & England when I feel like it. Love you all forever. What a day.
Has drink been taken Ardiles, perchance?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:08:45
Joined this forum maybe 15+ yrs ago. Fck the lot of you. I "m Swindon forever & England when I feel like it. Love you all forever. What a day.

This makes me happy.

 :beers:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:09:54
Yes. But in a good way.
I love you all (despite earlier indications).


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:12:19
Fair dos. Apologies, I misunderstood

Don't apologise you cunt 😉

I wasn't even meaning to be negative, more hope for the best, prepare for the worst. From now on I'd agree, whatever comes it's been a success.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:15:47
*unpopular opinion alert*

Stick Delph in for Dele Alli against Croatia and get him water tight on Modric. Centre of the park is their strongest area. Nullify Modric and Rakitic we probably win the game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:18:12
I've been trying to impress enormity of tonight's achievements on Ardiles Mks I & II.  Happily, I think that they get it.  Last time England made the semis in a WC coincided with '1st not 3rd' and our wrongful demotion from Div 1.  One day, I want my boys to understand what that summer - 28 yrs ago - felt like. Thinking about it now still gets me.  It fired my love of STFC.

The penalty shoot out of 1990 is, for me, inextricably linked with that summer and the start of my love for Swindon Town.  It's part of me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:22:19
*unpopular opinion alert*

Stick Delph in for Dele Alli against Croatia and get him water tight on Modric. Centre of the park is their strongest area. Nullify Modric and Rakitic we probably win the game.

What makes you think Delph will be better at doing that than Alli?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:25:36
*unpopular opinion alert*

Stick Delph in for Dele Alli against Croatia and get him water tight on Modric. Centre of the park is their strongest area. Nullify Modric and Rakitic we probably win the game.
Croatia were fantastic in qualifying and dogturd in the knock outs. Modric and rakitic have been shit the last 2 games. Croatia and England play like the last 2 games, we win. If both teams play to their best, we lose.
I think he will keep the same side.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, July 7, 2018, 23:38:10
Croatia were fantastic in qualifying and dogturn in the knock outs. Nordic and rakitic have been shit the last 2 games. Croatia and England play like the last 2 games, we win. If both teams play to their best, we lose.
I think he will keep the same side.
I just feel playing Delph instead of Alli means you're not risking having an isolated Henderson having rings run round him when Croatia win the ball back. Get past Henderson and they're in at our back 3. Modric and Rakitic have been shit against teams putting 9 or 10 behind the ball. We don't play like that. I'd just like the balance of Delph alongside Henderson with Lingard and Sterling free to play between the lines supporting Kane.

What makes you think Delph will be better at doing that than Alli?
More defensive minded, more likely to stick to task.

I realise I may be giving the Croatians too much respect with this opinion. Just have visions of Rakitic/Modric controlling the game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 8, 2018, 00:42:32
Iíve enjoyed reading the comments made by fans of some of nearby pals who seem so riled by Englandís run.

 :beers:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 8, 2018, 07:19:15
I enjoyed the England game, glad to be proved wrong about us losing, Pickford, Trippier and Maguire were immense, nothing more to add.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, July 9, 2018, 07:55:31
Just realised I've got airshow tickets for Sunday :doh:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, July 9, 2018, 08:35:54
I'm at a one day folk festival at Hatfield House. I go every year and take the family. If we get through, I hope they have a screen there otherwise I'll watch the first 2 acts then drive to find somewhere to watch it and back to the festival.  Can't drink though as driving.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 9, 2018, 08:45:03
I hope the scumbags that decided to jump on the ambulance car in London get their comeuppance. Damaged it so badly it had to be taken out of service.

Don't mind people celebrating but criminal damage to such a service is not acceptable.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 9, 2018, 09:01:43
I read somewhere that Millwall supporters were doing a crowd funding thing to pay for the repairs. Fair play to them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 9, 2018, 09:32:33
I hope the scumbags that decided to jump on the ambulance car in London get their comeuppance. Damaged it so badly it had to be taken out of service.

Don't mind people celebrating but criminal damage to such a service is not acceptable.

Getting a bit pissed off about this being touted as 'football fans' doing the damage...

Its just people who are incapable of taking their ale that are doing this, many of which don't give a shite about football. Sporting success brings out the nationalistic prick in too many people!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 9, 2018, 10:02:52
Getting a bit pissed off about this being touted as 'football fans' doing the damage...
This.

These people are using football as an excuse for behaving like a cunt, it has nothing to do with football itself. Football may be the steel that strikes the flint that lights the tinder, these people will act like twats with or without football.

Its just people with an extremely low inteligence who have let the sun get to them after drinking too much, the same could happen with any source of ignition but it happens to be football this time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 9, 2018, 11:02:37
I don't envy anyone working for any of the emergency services on Wednesday (not that I envy them at any time). You just know that whatever the result, a lot of people are going to behave like fucking lunatics...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: PlymRed on Monday, July 9, 2018, 11:53:39
I don't envy anyone working for any of the emergency services on Wednesday (not that I envy them at any time). You just know that whatever the result, a lot of people are going to behave like fucking lunatics...
It was ridiculous on Saturday and I'm not looking forward to Wednesday at all, too much drink and utter bellends is not a good mix.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Monday, July 9, 2018, 12:17:34
Every silver lining has a cloud.Unfortunately getting pissed and laity is one of our national characteristics


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, July 9, 2018, 12:58:30
One reason I prefer watching at home if I can't be in the stadium.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 9, 2018, 13:17:41
Every silver lining has a cloud.Unfortunately getting pissed and laity is one of our national characteristics
Being non-clerical members of the Church of England's General Synod? :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Monday, July 9, 2018, 22:36:26
😁Jesus Christ!What a typo


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 08:41:01
Oh no, just noticed the game is only on ITV.
(Iíd assumed by now the games would be on both channels, Iím sure they used to be)

Best we can hope for is a draw & penalties then :(




#TheCurseofITV


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 08:42:29
😁Jesus Christ!What a typo

Holy inappropriate


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:11:30
Oh no, just noticed the game is only on ITV.
(I’d assumed by now the games would be on both channels, I’m sure they used to be)

Best we can hope for is a draw & penalties then :(




#TheCurseofITV

God so we have (we don't have to, I could utilise the mute button and miss out on any atmosphere) listen to that overly biased half-wit Tyldesley and the inane ramblings of Glenn Hoddle.

I have a horrible feeling this is where our run ends, 2 early Croatia goals giving us too much to do. We'll score from a set-piece with 10 to go but Croatia will do enough to progress.

Football won't come home, and a number of English cities will get trashed.

Have a good Tuesday everyone :)




Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:14:12
I can't see where the croatia goals will come from though. Hardly prolific. I can see 1-1 til extra time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:16:47
God so we have (we don't have to, I could utilise the mute button and miss out on any atmosphere) listen to that overly biased half-wit Tyldesley and the inane ramblings of Glenn Hoddle.

I have a horrible feeling this is where our run ends, 2 early Croatia goals giving us too much to do. We'll score from a set-piece with 10 to go but Croatia will do enough to progress.

Football won't come home, and a number of English cities will get trashed.

Have a good Tuesday everyone :)



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God so we have (we don't have to, I could utilise the mute button and miss out on any atmosphere) listen to that overly biased half-wit Tyldesley and the inane ramblings of Glenn Hoddle.

I have a horrible feeling this is where our run ends, 2 early Croatia goals giving us too much to do. We'll score from a set-piece with 10 to go but Croatia will do enough to progress.

Football won't come home, and a number of English cities will get trashed.

Have a good Tuesday everyone :)



Probably right, although Im not sure about the 2 Croatia goals.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:22:21
It could happen for us. I don't go into the match fearing we'll get turned over (famous last words), I'm giving us a 50/50 chance again. That's how close we are...

Belgium will get to the final.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:34:57
I think its all up in the air, just two games and we could have two great performances and the opposition could have off days, its basically a lottery now.

Got a few quid on Belgium from the start so in a Belgium England final cannot lose really.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:37:49
There is little to choose between any of the semi finalists TBH, one good individual performance or one terrible one could be the difference.

It really could go either way with these games, I just hope we perform as we did at the weekend when we play tomorrow, if we are beaten by a great strike or piece of individual skill it will be easier to take than if one player royally fucks up and costs us the game.

As for France v Belgium, I am not a big fan of the French but love the Belgies, football and people wise, so its Belgium for me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:47:57
I think it'll be Croatia v Belgium final, but I want England v France  :)
I think they've done exceptionally well come what may.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:51:22
Croatia 0-2 England. Maybe aet.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:52:32
Whatever happens on Wednesday, this England side is different. The manager appears to be loved by everyone, the squad of players appears to be completely united, very little sign of egos. The system we are adapting seems to be very efficient.

Given the success of the under 17s, 19s and 21s recently I think the future is pretty bright for England. Given not many people really expected England to go very far in this tournament the world cup has exceeded expectations for us and hopefully we can move forward and progress in the upcoming tournaments - without getting too carried away of course!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:04:19
one player royally fucks up and costs us the game.


I am a little worried about Harry Mcguire, purely because the parallels with Southgate at Euro 96 are noticeable, centre half has unexpectedly good tournament and then fucks it up at the end....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:05:35
I would say Kyle Walker is more prone


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:11:57
I am a little worried about Harry Mcguire, purely because the Southgate at Euro 96 are noticeable, centre half has unexpectedly good tournament and then fucks it up at the end....

over-confidence?

As Sippo has said I think Kyle Walker has a serious rick in him unfortunately. One of those ones where he dummies the ball to let the ball run without realising there is a Croatian lurking dangerously behind him.

I also previously thought that Sterling should be dropped due to his inept finishing/final ball, but without him in the side, where is the pace? Its probably true that he was very important in the Sweden game as he scared them with his pace. I really really want him to click against Croatia and get that all important goal, as he does work his bollocks off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:14:45
Whatever happens on Wednesday, this England side is different. The manager appears to be loved by everyone, the squad of players appears to be completely united, very little sign of egos. The system we are adapting seems to be very efficient.

Given the success of the under 17s, 19s and 21s recently I think the future is pretty bright for England. Given not many people really expected England to go very far in this tournament the world cup has exceeded expectations for us and hopefully we can move forward and progress in the upcoming tournaments - without getting too carried away of course!

All good points.... it's interesting that the semis and final of the next Euro are at Wembley, it's the spread it around concept.

Further Wembley picked up 4 group games after Bekgium failed to deliver on stadium promises.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:34:21
the swindon fan within me is holding me back getting truely excited and confident. Its hard because getting to this stage is actually a success for this young team but ultimately it is winning that counts and it comes to back to my fine margins post previously. no one remembers a loser unless you are that loser you will always remember.

my first major football final memory age 9 was euro 96 semi final loss. Since then world cup 2002/04 quarter final losses, brighton semi final loss, chesterfield final loss, millwall final loss, brentford semi final loss, preston final loss.

Iv seen my teams as favourites and underdogs and it just makes no difference in a final. When you get this far its time to get the job done.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:44:26
over-confidence?

As Sippo has said I think Kyle Walker has a serious rick in him unfortunately. One of those ones where he dummies the ball to let the ball run without realising there is a Croatian lurking dangerously behind him.

I also previously thought that Sterling should be dropped due to his inept finishing/final ball, but without him in the side, where is the pace? Its probably true that he was very important in the Sweden game as he scared them with his pace. I really really want him to click against Croatia and get that all important goal, as he does work his bollocks off.


I don't think I put it very well, my concerns regarding McGuire are less to do with him fucking up than something going wrong that leaves the blame for our departure at his door, I note the issues with Walker but he has not been bigged up as some sort of break out player by the media like McGuire has been in this tournament and thats where the parallels to Southgate are clear as he had a great tournament in 96, and then it all went tits up when he was outside his comfort zone in a shoot out - Harry just don't take a penalty...

I would be inclined to leave Sterling in now, not changing a winning team and all that, however much of the discussion regarding the impacts of dropping him seem to assume that we will not be replacing him with anyone? Rashford has pace and the pain in the arseability and unlike Sterling also has the ability to finish, if I had a criticism of Southagte it is possibly making changes too late so if Alli is lethargic again (still not convinced he is fit!) get the changes made around the hour, not with 5-10 left.

I am English so thus not optimistic, but its still in our hands...

Plus if we lose fuck knows whats going to happen, after all the bollocks after our wins will those who cannot take their booze be able to take it...



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:51:56
I am hearing talk of a open top bus parade even if England lose tomorrow.

This would be unacceptable ....

Bus parades are for winners and not losers ...... You shouldn't reward failure.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:58:24
I am hearing talk of a open top bus parade even if England lose tomorrow.

This would be unacceptable ....

Bus parades are for winners and not losers ...... You shouldn't reward failure.
When England lost in 1990 there was an open top bus parade, nobody seemed to be against it then.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:59:56
We won in 1990  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:03:51
Also and Lidl closing at 3 on Sunday if England get through so their workers can watch the game. Great publicity for the Germans.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:21:02
Sterling was excellent against Sweden. We'd be mad to drop him, particularly against a team that plays with no real holding midfielder and a big gap in front of their back four.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:27:51
Sterling was excellent against Sweden. We'd be mad to drop him, particularly against a team that plays with no real holding midfielder and a big gap in front of their back four.
I agree, his first 2 games Sterling was fairly poor, not playing to his strengths which is running with the ball at them with pace.

Every time he had the ball vs the Swedes they looked scared of him and he made a lot of decent chances.

Dele Alli for me has been the only player that has not really played well all tournament, despite his goal, I thought Delph or Loftus-Cheek are much better options.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:50:18
Should be noted that Croatia have played extra time and pens in their last 2 games so we should be in slightly better shape.

It's good to talk about the lineups and where we could improve but I wouldn't change a thing at this stage. RL-C and Rashford can be super subs if Dele and Sterling fail to impress. For me, Sterling has played really well in the last two games and adds more to the team performance than a young, raw Rashford.

PS, who said Rashford was a finisher? He's got about a 1 in 4 strike rate for ManU. Sterling was around 1 in 5 for Liverpool and 1 in 3 for Man City. Pretty similar at club level, I'd say.

How fucking good has this tournament been by the way?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:59:44
Jayo makes a great point, this World Cup has been immense, especially given some of the pre-match press nonsense about fans being attacked etc.

What has been very refreshing to hear is how friendly and welcoming and enjoyable its been for all the visitors to Russia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:09:44
 For me, the the biggest improvement has been the penalising of the ridiculous holding at set pieces.... after a dodgy start, and with the advantage of VAR, refs have been prepared to give pens.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:42:09
I am hearing talk of a open top bus parade even if England lose tomorrow.

This would be unacceptable ....

Bus parades are for winners and not losers ...... You shouldn't reward failure.

This! Its not fucking sports day where "its the taking part that counts" and "everyone a winner"


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:44:11
Im as big a football fan as the next person and i really hope people win but people expecting a day of on Monday? Get a grip.
If you're lucky enough to work for an employer who is willing to do it, then lucky you, but to expect it......?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 12:53:43
My boss just offered me Thursday off if I want to have a few tomorrow  :D.

I declined, Iím already off Friday and Monday as Iím in Newcastle for a stag do this weekend, I thought Iíd better.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 13:05:56
Im as big a football fan as the next person and i really hope people win but people expecting a day of on Monday? Get a grip.
If you're lucky enough to work for an employer who is willing to do it, then lucky you, but to expect it......?
I'm a contractor, I'll be fucking furious if they declare a national day off on Monday.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 13:23:28
More excellent work from Mr Squires:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/jul/10/david-squires-on-england-croatia-and-the-world-cup-semi-finals


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 14:32:04
Sterling, while being consistently under the microscope has got, in my opinion, progressively better as the tournament has gone on. It's a very small upward curve but an upward curve nonetheless.

He's gone from less confident, hardly anything falling for him to chasing balls down and then running just a stride too far or not striking early enough, to now balls landing on his feet, chasing pretty much everything down, striking nearly everything at the right time, but a tiny bit of indecision (his head telling him he's offside, when a strikers instinct will put it in the net anyway, then face the consequences).

It's slowly clicking for him and he's lucky because as England have stayed in the tournament, naturally he's getting chance after chance. That last piece of jigsaw could fall in place just in time for the match v Croatia. I'm willing him to score because I believe if he does then he'll believe in himself and could quite easily score a hat trick.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 14:42:33
Can't see it.I think Sterling has been exactly the same in every game but if GS sees fit to pick him that's fine with me!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 14:55:28
Pro: Sterling opens up the game for others.
Con: Barn door..cow's arse-banjo. Blinkered vision.

No way would I drop him. The replacements all have their own fault's anyway. And one game he'll hit the target and make that pass.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 15:22:52
Just hope we don't rue another missed chance


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 15:24:59
Just hope we don't rue another missed chance

That's the worry, they are at a premium.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: normy on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 16:03:50
Sterling's our main guy who can open it up for others, doing an excellent job in my opinion.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 16:27:01
Some people at work are talking as though the world will come to an end if they get lose tomorrow; there will be another chance in 2 years for the Euros and another 4 for the World Cup again - your squad is still young for goodness sake.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 16:33:21
Get it forward!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 16:33:49
spoken like a German.

most of us don't get this opportunity often. it's taken 28 years to get back here and this world cup has been unusual.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 18:34:00
It would be interesting to see how many teams have lost to another in the group stage and beat them in the final, could happen again this year. Some odds you would get on that.

The only time thus far I can think of was 1954


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 18:43:02
It would be interesting to see how many teams have lost to another in the group stage and beat them in the final, could happen again this year. Some odds you would get on that.

The only time thus far I can think of was 1954
The ball is round and the game lasts 90 minutes.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 18:53:24
Belgium 2-0


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 18:59:26
Iíd prefer Belgium to win, but have felt France were favourites long before it started.

Although if they do win it, itíll be despite Deschamps not because of him. And I had my money on them, and only them, long before the WC began, which I mention so as to not show my 20-20 hindsight.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:06:48
Don't really know why but I always have distain for France and thus would be happy if Belgium won


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:19:26
Belgium are by far the better team therefore want France to win purely from England's pov


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:28:44
Listening to the bbc commentators is like stabbing your eardrums with a matchstick


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:35:24
It would be interesting to see how many teams have lost to another in the group stage and beat them in the final, could happen again this year. Some odds you would get on that.

The only time thus far I can think of was 1954
We lost and drew with Sunderland in 1989/90...

 :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Cheltred on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:08:59
We lost and drew with Sunderland in 1989/90...

 :)And with Leicester in 1992/93


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:23:55
Belgium are by far the better team therefore want France to win purely from England's pov
The benefit of playing France is Giroud - what a fucking donkey.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:26:57
France aren't shit.
Belgium aren't shit.

I'll worry about it if needs must Thursday (hopefully I will anyway)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:28:16
Whoever wins this game *should* go on to become champions.

*Should*


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:41:26
It doesn't take much to impress Danny Mills does it?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:44:18
It doesn't take much to impress Danny Mills does it?

Danny Murphy?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:45:44
Yeah that's the one


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:49:25
He sounds perpetually bored. But then I've developed a pretty good mental block for the commentary this WC.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:51:10
Everything is "absolutely sensational"


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:53:55
I thought France looked very suspect to crosses especially against their left back, that could bode well if we get into the final with Trippier running at them down the right.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:55:02
France in the Final. A tabloid newspapers wet dream if England get through.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:57:17
Was a bit of a shit game really. No one stood out, Maybe both keepers. They both made some good saves. Mbappe did similar stuff this match that Sterling has been doing but with less microscope.

If we do go on to play them, I wouldn't be massively fussed. Belgium, as has happened before were in danger of individuality not clicking. Great team of individuals and on an off day they can look average. Still great tournament for them. France win with a sneaky headed flick on at a corner. England don't score flick ons at corners because everyone prefers to wrestle us. Trouble is, we happen to have a good selection of lads who can  power head one home.

Corner and slightest slack marking probably the difference in tonight's match. Neither impressed or worried.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 20:59:35
France in the Final. A tabloid newspapers wet dream if England get through.
Perhaps Brexit should be decided by the outcome.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:12:27
Perhaps Brexit should be decided by the outcome.
No chance. The Germans make the rules you should know that by now.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:23:03
Thereís a politics thread for your pointless arguments gents. (Before it descends into a full on brexit off.) :mwah:

Mbappe did similar stuff this match that Sterling has been doing but with less microscope.

And more bukake from the commentators.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:36:09
Boo, I lost my £10 free sunbet on Belgium being outright winners. Yay, France won so guaranteed at least a £10 through work sweepstake.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:51:41
Another disastrous retreat from Moscow still a possibility for the French.

If England make it to the final, who is going to sit next to Infantino?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:53:56
thought Dr Bruyne was poor tonight, Mertens not much better. made the difference.

though France did defend reasonably well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bedford Red on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 21:55:59
Listening to the bbc commentators is like stabbing your eardrums with a matchstick

Nowhere near as bad as Clive Tyldesley though, i much prefer to watch England on the BBC


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 22:10:18
Massive respect to the Belgians.  Unlucky.

Nevertheless, Deschamps has a superbly organised team.  Some talent too.  Given the quality of the oppo, never looked in trouble.  Hazard looked like he was going to tear them a new one, early doors.  Faded.  Kante massive.

If England qualify, it's a different game and of course a one off.  Touching down in Florida tomorrow and looking straight away for a TV. 


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 22:29:04
Hard to spot an obvious weakness in the French side, although they're extremely narrow. Trying to get one on one with their full backs is key. Too many times Belgium played the ball back into the middle of the pitch and were inevitably crowded out by Kante, Matuidi and Pogba.

Still, we have our own business to take care of first.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 22:49:22
Nowhere near as bad as Clive Tyldesley though, i much prefer to watch England on the BBC

True, that is. Having said that I've enjoyed Sam Matterface's commentary, the best on either channel, imo.  And the risk with the BBC is always Jonathan Pierce.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 06:44:47
I thought Belgium lost it rather than France winning. Belgian passing went badly awry at times and, apart from a couple of good saves from both keepers, Belgians were badly off target, with de Bruyne at least as guilty as Gironde.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 08:33:51
Come on England!!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 08:34:17
IF England get through, out only saving grace against France would be that Giroud plays. Couldn't hit a barn door.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 08:39:41
France were good tactically. Belgium had no plan B - they will never win anything like that


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 08:41:44
France were good tactically. Belgium had no plan B - they will never win anything like that
We're fucked then....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 08:43:56
IF England get through, out only saving grace against France would be that Giroud plays. Couldn't hit a barn door.

But the space he creates is very clever. Takes defenders out, for Griezemann and Mbappe.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:15:38
Are all cards wiped for the final?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:16:22
Way less nervous about tonight than against Colombia. Think we've got the edge over Croatia but, more importantly, it's not a disaster if we lose. We've had the moments, we've had success, we've proven this young team and approach works.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:26:14
Are all cards wiped for the final?

Nope but they were wiped at the end of the quarters I think. Clean slates going into tonight, just don't get sent off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:30:18
But the space he creates is very clever. Takes defenders out, for Griezemann and Mbappe.

Le Hesqui


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:31:02
Le Hesqui
Le Norris


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 09:32:02
I have finally achieved full carried away today, and am sat at work in a waistcoat and tie. I haven't quite managed the prosthetic nose.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:03:19
France do have a weakness Griezmann and Giroud have been shite all tournament


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:28:43
They did alright in Ď98 without a striker


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:28:49
France do have a weakness Griezmann and Giroud have been shite all tournament
I thought Lucas HernŠndez looked really poor when Belgium were running at him all game yesterday, something Trippier will revel in if we get to the final, I also thought Hugo Lloris was rubbish dealing with crosses, constantly punching them, often with no distance to the punches, again that would suit us.

BUT there is a little matter of beating Croatia tonight who are no mugs having knocked out Angentina along the way and only conceding 4 goals in their 5 games so far and scoring 10.

They will be hard to break down and play as a team for each other, they play with a lone big striker (Manděukić) which could suit our back 3, they defend as a unit with a lot of experience throughout the team, they will be hard to break down and can be quite rough tacklers too at times, although not as bad as Colombia!

Its going to be a very tough game but if we play as a unit like we did vs Sweden and get at them then who knows.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:33:05
France were good tactically. Belgium had no plan B - they will never win anything like that

Starting Fellaini basically fucked up their plan B as bringing him on seems to be their only plan B.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:35:51
I don't like the way that many England fans (not the more educated like what we is ;) ) are assuming we will easily beat Croatia tonight. The press are especially guilty of this mass over hyping, as they often are.

Thats fucking dangerous territory to think that way pre game.

Lets take it one game at a time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:46:36
Agreed PV.Hate all this shit we're basically falling into the old ways forgetting that the ditching of that mindset is one of the main reasons we've done so well


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:47:42
Would you take a chance and book flights/tickets for the Final before tonightís game?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:50:04
No.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:50:35
Iím getting twitchy


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 10:54:58
I don't like the way that many England fans (not the more educated like what we is ;) ) are assuming we will easily beat Croatia tonight. The press are especially guilty of this mass over hyping, as they often are.

Thats fucking dangerous territory to think that way pre game.

Lets take it one game at a time.

Thing is most of these were the same people who said they didn't care about the national side a while back.  We could have a debate on here as to why 4 years ago the viewing figures for Bake Off, were twice that of an England game on the box.

Here's an old post from that debate by Baggins....  of course not 100% accurate, but a pretty good shot at viewing the then future.

"I didn't think it was that bad, although I agree about Rooney.  I thought it looked like a bunch of promising young players, not world beaters, that were crying out for a couple of top class players to show them the way - which is what we are lacking.  Our young players are going to have to learn without that guidance, because we have nobody like that.

I also thought we had a much better shape when we went to the diamond, with Sterling at the front.  He is wasted out wide - he makes things happen through the middle.  With him in behind Sturridge and Welbeck we look dangerous.  Henderson at the back of the diamond will grow in to the role - there is a good player there.  If we can create a couple of good players to play on either side of that diamond from Wilshere, O-C, Delph, Colback, or AN Other, then that will help.  Defensively - we are terrible.  Hopefully Chambers and Stones will help, but if our future defence is built on Phil Jones, Gary Cahill and Chris Smalling, then we are in trouble.

And yes - I am obviously one of those who do still care about the national team.  As you all would, if we were good and won a world cup."


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 11:19:04


BUT there is a little matter of beating Croatia tonight who are no mugs having knocked out Angentina along the way and only conceding 4 goals in their 5 games so far and scoring 10.





France knocked out the Argies.

Croatia got taken to Pens by Denmark and Russia... We've got this.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 11:25:50
France knocked out the Argies.

Croatia got taken to Pens by Denmark and Russia... We've got this.
I typed what my brain was thinking it meant to say beat the Argies, and actually beat them heavily.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 11:26:27
Agreed PV.Hate all this shit we're basically falling into the old ways forgetting that the ditching of that mindset is one of the main reasons we've done so well
tbf, it matters not a jot what the mindset of the fans is. It's the mindset of the team that has helped them do well and I'm pretty confident they'll maintain that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 14:58:35
I'd rather lose tonight to Croatia than lose to France. If we get to the final we have to win.....having lived in France for 20 years I couldn't stand any more of their gloating. I wouldn't mind so much if they weren't the worst plastic fans in the world.....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:02:42
tbf, it matters not a jot what the mindset of the fans is. It's the mindset of the team that has helped them do well and I'm pretty confident they'll maintain that.

What do you mean, it's got fuck all to do with "us"?  You mean we've been stopping my mates wife from watching the games, which we thought is bringing us good luck, is merely preventing her from watching us win?  Now we sound unkind and uncaring.  Are you absolutely sure we are not at least providing 1% of the required effort and skill to navigate this thing....................


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:18:08
Don't know if anyone has seen this.

1966 is when England last one the world cup. If you square each number you get 1x81x36x36. This equals 104976. The last time England won the world cup was 52 years ago. If you divide 104976 by 52 you get 2018.7.

So July 2018....


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:29:02
I'd rather lose tonight to Croatia than lose to France. If we get to the final we have to win.....having lived in France for 20 years I couldn't stand any more of their gloating. I wouldn't mind so much if they weren't the worst plastic fans in the world.....

I assume you mean at International level.

As domestically MK & Reading have that wrapped up


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:29:22
I'll take that Sippo.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:31:13
I assume you mean at International level.

As domestically MK & Reading have that wrapped up

I've been reading there's too much plastic wrap in the world


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:35:06
Getting into the swing now. Weíre watching/listening to Fat Les.

Early beer argument. Is Esther Rantzen in the Vindaloo video?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:40:05
Don't know if anyone has seen this.

1966 is when England last one the world cup. If you square each number you get 1x81x36x36. This equals 104976. The last time England won the world cup was 52 years ago. If you divide 104976 by 52 you get 2018.7.

So July 2018....

That's good, just to add more fuel to the hype train:

When Spain won the WC, Bacelona won La Liga, Pep Guardiola was manager
When Germany won the WC, Bayern Munich won Bundsliga, Pep Guardiola was manager
This world cup, Pep Guardiola is manager of Man City, they won the league!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 15:47:15
There will only be one goal in it but I think you will win.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:42:03
3-0 England
Kane x 2
Sterling


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:42:23
got to be optimistic, eh


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:47:25
I see it as a 50/50 game. I was surprised to see the media putting England as such firm favourites, but they're trying to create hype and sell papers/get clicks rather than paint an accurate picture.

I don't think the hype will affect the team - by all accounts they're in a bit of a bubble and don't really comprehend what's going on back here. I trust Southgate to keep their feet on the floor and help them focus on the task at hand.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:14:22
So in the past we have not been burdened by the weight of expectation.Up the expectation level and create pressure on the players..."this will be bigger than 1966"...unnecessary in my opinion.But to be honest this bunch do seem a different cup of meat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:30:24
As I said the other day I like comparisons and coincidences, we last won the World Cup when I was 6 months old, my Grandaughter is 6 months old this week. A good omen I think :)

Getting nervous now TBH, the final really is in sight and by no means beyind this team.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:45:22
Just remember this, when we started this competition we had Allardyce as manager and Rooney as captain.

Come a long way since then.

 :pint:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 18:06:49
Im going to shed tears tonight. I know i am.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 18:12:03
Im going to shed tears tonight. I know i am.
Of joy hopefully.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 18:24:23
I'm sure Croatia will be nervous too, come on boys do as you have done already.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 18:56:16
Thereís a certain irony that there are less players in the starting line ups playing in England tonight than there were last night.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 18:56:34
Just remembered that because I stream it I hear the neighbours cheer about 10 seconds before I see a goal. Iím trying to think of a way to nullify his issue, as it took away some excitement against Sweden. I might have to resort to headphones.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:03:03
Boom


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:24:23
Pickford is genuinely two footed, possibly the best long passer in the team.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:28:03
Anybody else feel uncomfortable with us passing it at the back?

Or maybe I've been following a Williams' team too long?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:32:59
Yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:47:18
All over them but they're still dangerous. Another early goal please


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 19:56:36
no flash, you aren't alone.

FFS. long 45 coming up. think we'll need a second


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:00:06
WTF is all this pint throwing in the air bollocks when we score?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:22:29
Bollocks


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:24:51
balls indeed


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:36:54
Not looking good


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:37:56
Croatia should be out of sight.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:39:50
Experience telling now


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:45:27
Croatia should be out of sight.

England should have been out of sight at half time


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:49:15
England should have been out of sight at half time

Thatís the beauty of football. Croatia overall shaded game for me but not enough to deserve the win. I think Croatia need to win in extra time or I fancy England on penalties


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:49:55
look dead on our feet, lost midfield :(


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 20:52:03
Our midfield has been total shite this half. Good to get extra time. Anything can still happen.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:12:24
A couple of Swindon flags behind the goal tonight. Always good to see flags of the smaller (non-Prem top sides) clubs at internationals. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would have an England flag with 'England' written on it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:18:21
Boom


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:18:43
game over


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:18:52
Boom

Twat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:20:08
Russia scored in extra time so still hope for England


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:32:36
Absolutely mullered them first half then never came back out. Gutted but praise lads, did very well to get this far.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:33:46
Is it full time yet? I've lost all feeds.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:37:21
Yep.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:38:50
To be fair England did better then the public expected. Young team which can progress for the future. No one can deny Croatia the win as better team overall. Credit to Southgate.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:39:47
The best team won. They had the quality we didn't. The second half was a total shitting on.  Been a a great world cup for England though.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:41:44
Agreed Chalks, I'll back Croatia against France. We did well, much better than Poland and Germany who were both awful  :)
Not forgetting Argentina  :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:41:59
The Curse strikes again.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:44:03
To be fair England did better then the public expected. Young team which can progress for the future. No one can deny Croatia the win as better team overall. Credit to Southgate.
Lost against the first decent team they came up against. Helped along the way by an extremely favourable route. They're no Wales 8)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:44:30
First half we were in total control, then Croatia controlled the second half and extra time.
Had chances to be out of sight in the first half, Kane has had his worst game of the tournament at the worst time. Gutted,  but got further than anyone expected.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:45:13
We took the game to them in the first half and they looked poor. If we kept that up = different story. Go on and do the business Croatia


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:46:27
Quote
To be fair England did better then the public expected. Young team which can progress for the future. No one can deny Croatia the win as better team overall. Credit to Southgate.
they did, better team won on the day (shit winner). if Kane hadn't turned into sterling on that chance...

massive missed opportunity. may never get a better one.

good overall progress, pride restored, but ultimately so what...

hey ho. Proud, but massively pissed off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:48:52
Lost against the first decent team they came up against. Helped along the way by an extremely favourable route. They're no Wales 8)

Wales, their world cup record is second to none  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:49:13
Oh, and hopefully that ends the Sterling/Rashford debate.
Thought Sterling was good till being taken off, then Rashford poor.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:49:45
If we can add a midfield maestro to add some creativity, this team could do stuff.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:51:29
I was disappointed when Sterling was taken off


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:52:51
Was crying out for Loftus Cheek. Not Eric Dier.

Alas, it's been a great tournament.



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:54:43
Quote from: 4D
I was disappointed when Sterling was taken off
ran himself into the ground. did so well in first half.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:55:20
Pericic was absolute quality. Modric got better as the game got on. Player for player they are better than us and we took them to extra time. Feel proud and disappointed at the same time. I hope Croatia go on and win it.
I think this team can grow but as said a midfield maestro is the most urgent requirement. What is Anton Rogers doing nowadays


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:55:24
No complaints. Lack of quality cost us in the end. Should have taken advantage of being on top in first half.

Overall, we over achieved in terms of the competition as a whole.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:55:45
I'm disappointed, but we got further than most others could dream of, unless losing the qualifiers counts as success.  :)
England are back  8)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:56:01
won the 1st half then faded, gutted  :cry:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:00:26
11 shots on goal, 2 on target. That is not a good stat.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:04:54
11 shots on goal, 2 on target. That is not a good stat.

England's achillies heal is goals from open play, so no surprise


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:07:54
A problem England have had way before Southgate is capitalising on a lead.
Should have been 3-0 at half time and game over.
Gutted for the lads but didnít they do well.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:09:23
I'm disappointed, but we got further than most others could dream of, unless losing the qualifiers counts as success.  :)
England are back  8)
Definitely exceeded expectations. Fallen short against a country with a 4m population mind. A Gareth Bale on your side would have made all the difference tonight.  :toocool:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:14:50
Well at least we have another League 2 campaign to look forward to. The joys of being an English, Swindon fan....

Arenít we all a lucky bunch.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:15:41
yippee


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:18:02
Well at least we have another League 2 campaign to look forward to. The joys of being an English, Swindon fan....

Arenít we all a lucky bunch.
:suicide:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:18:41
Definitely exceeded expectations. Fallen short against a country with a 4m population mind. A Gareth Bale on your side would have made all the difference tonight.  :toocool:

Didn't make a difference for your lot  ;)
Credit to a little country who have done well against countries with bigger populations than England, Wales should take note, can't see them ever achieving what Croatia have mind. Think you'll always be in the ROI/Scotland league :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:19:14
Roy Keane is a wanker :bye:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:19:22
Welsh in my local were fucking pathetic tonight. Cheering Croatia as if they were in the competition themselves, then singing you're going home to a bunch of England fans. I put em right.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:23:05
Welsh in my local were fucking pathetic tonight. Cheering Croatia as if they were in the competition themselves, then singing you're going home to a bunch of England fans. I put em right.

Saps


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:24:11
Definitely exceeded expectations. Fallen short against a country with a 4m population mind. A Gareth Bale on your side would have made all the difference tonight.  :toocool:

The population size thing is a weird argument.  You only need about 15 players. 15 out of 4m isn't a lot. Still. I'll enjoy China vs India in the final on Sunday.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:24:54
The population size thing is a weird argument.  You only need about 15 players. 15 out of 4m isn't a lot. Still. I'll enjoy China vs India in the final on Sunday.

 :nod:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:26:30
Didn't make a difference for your lot  ;)
Credit to a little country who have done well against countries with bigger populations than England, Wales should take note, can't see them ever achieving what Croatia have mind. Think you'll always be in the ROI/Scotland league :D
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap: I didn't expect to get a bite this easily hahahaha!!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:28:10
But I'm serious


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:28:58
Roy Keane is a wanker :bye:

I thought he'd gone grey   ???


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:31:14
Quote from: Ells
Welsh in my local were fucking pathetic tonight. Cheering Croatia as if they were in the competition themselves, then singing you're going home to a bunch of England fans. I put em right.


I don't mind that. I hate home nations love ins. it's great that Wales haven't gone to a world cup since 1958, not win a rugby union final since.. actually Google seems to have sensored that


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:33:57
Welsh in my local were fucking pathetic tonight. Cheering Croatia as if they were in the competition themselves, then singing you're going home to a bunch of England fans. I put em right.

Only to be expected but Ďwell doneí though for standing up to them.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:37:18
Even Bristol City have won a Welsh Cup. Embarrassing really


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:37:39
Until, our Ďeliteí players get some experience playing their club football abroad itís always going to be this way.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:41:51
But I'm serious
& I am. The first decent side you've been drawn against have turned you over despite being awful in the first half. If u'd been in the other half of the draw you'd have been found out 2 games ago & Southgate wouldn't have become a national treasure. Ultimately you choked when the pressure cranked up, just as we did against Portugal two years ago (although we were without Ramsey & Ben Davies on the day (probably the equivalent of u lot being without Maguire & Dele Alli - if he'd turned up).


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:48:07
Wouldn't say choked, just not quite good enough.

We'll see how strong the two halfs were when France take on Croatia.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 22:53:49
You don't know that for sure though, easy to be critical , perhaps Wales will surprise us one day and fall under the microscope of being in a competition. Doubt I'll be around to pass comment.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:03:11
You don't know that for sure though, easy to be critical , perhaps Wales will surprise us one day and fall under the microscope of being in a competition. Doubt I'll be around to pass comment.
We did, two years ago. I think we went further than you. It's good to see little old Wales can still stoke the fire in you. #noisyneighbours


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:04:15
Not really.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:04:39
& I am. The first decent side you've been drawn against have turned you over despite being awful in the first half. If u'd been in the other half of the draw you'd have been found out 2 games ago & Southgate wouldn't have become a national treasure. Ultimately you choked when the pressure cranked up, just as we did against Portugal two years ago (although we were without Ramsey & Ben Davies on the day (probably the equivalent of u lot being without Maguire & Dele Alli - if he'd turned up).
I think Colombia were decent and look who Sweden took out. At the end of the day we lost to a far better team. They had better players and got it together after we gave them a good going over in the first 45. They then fucking battered us for 45. We didn't create enough but still took then into extra time.
 Today is a day to enjoy how far we've come. Tomorrow we can look at how far we're still away from top drawer.
I'm hoping that cunt Rooney is looking at this and seeing what a team can do over a collection of individuals.


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:08:29
let's talk about Wales then

1 euro championship finals 2016 (exceptional to get to semi)
1 world cup finals 1958
0 rugby world cup wins

it's not exactly a glowing list of achievements. and the opposite of noisy


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:09:29
Wouldn't say choked, just not quite good enough.

We'll see how strong the two halfs were when France take on Croatia.
On a serious note, England were excellent in the 1st half. Didn't allow Modric to dictate play & if Kane had taken one of his two chances you'd probably have gone on & won. But that's the difference at the highest level. Columbia & Sweden offered nothing but Croatia upped the ante in the 2nd half. Perisic was superb, Mandzukic was clinical & Stones switched off at the crucial moment. You never really looked like scoring once you went behind & as I've already alluded to I think you came up short against the first decent outfit you came up against.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:09:48
We did, two years ago. I think we went further than you. It's good to see little old Wales can still stoke the fire in you. #noisyneighbours

How'd Wales get on against England by the way?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:13:48
let's talk about Wales then

1 euro championship finals 2016 (exceptional to get to semi)
1 world cup finals 1958
0 rugby world cup wins

it's not exactly a glowing list of achievements. and the opposite of noisy
For the size of our country I think that's pretty reasonable. Other than one WC on home soil the 'home of football' hasn't exactly pulled up any trees on an international scale other than the odd glorious failure.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:14:25
Until, our Ďeliteí players get some experience playing their club football abroad itís always going to be this way.

I donít really see it that way. There are a million and one ways to win a World Cup, FA Cup, League, Euros, etc. Young inexperienced teams win, experienced teams win. Defensive teams win, and lose. So do attacking teams. Germany have failed - and a good number of them play outside the Bundesliga. Neither have Spain. And they didnít win previous tournaments because players played abroad. They won because of the genius of Xavi and Iniesta (playing at Barca) or Muellerís goals for Bayern, and a bit of luck, and just because they were better.

When a side doesnít win, there is a temptation to look at what it isnít doing, and use that as the reason for not winning. Equally, if a side does well, thereís a temptation to look at all of its characteristics and decide they are ďgoodĒ. That just canít be right.  This side did well through a combination of luck, skill, leadership and a great attitude, and probably a few things weíll never know. Each time a side wins, it will win differently.

This tournament just proved that there is nothing fundamentally flawed about the England set up and the way we now develop players. We just need to do it slightly, just slightly - better.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:15:10
I think Freddy is just jumping on the "England bash" bandwagon. The bitterness is not unexpected, it's a minor irritant from the usual suspects. I suppose it's easier to make a dig when you have nothing to get excited about with your own national side. Normal.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:15:33
Quote from: StfcRusty link=topic57443.msg1463967#msg1463967 date=1531346988
How'd Wales get on against England by the way?
Who finished top of the group? Wow, I'm even feeling petty myself here  :toocool:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:19:21
I've got a picture somewhere of Bale getting skinned by Nathan Byrne.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:20:50
For the size of our country I think that's pretty reasonable. Other than one WC on home soil the 'home of football' hasn't exactly pulled up any trees on an international scale other than the odd glorious failure.

Still done better than your lot in any sport you can think of


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:22:01
Who finished top of the group? Wow, I'm even feeling petty myself here  :toocool:
fuck off you welsh twat


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:22:10
I think Freddy is just jumping on the "England bash" bandwagon. The bitterness is not unexpected, it's a minor irritant from the usual suspects. I suppose it's easier to make a dig when you have nothing to get excited about with your own national side. Normal.
It's purely basking in the delight of your misfortune, I won't pretend it's anything else & I make no excuses for it. The English press haven't stopped wanking over this since you got out of the group. The same press who hated giving us any credit when we got to the semis (see the Daily Mail's headline after we beat Belgium in the quarters). I'm thoroughly enjoying your defeat & so is the majority of my country. It's a rivalry. You need to get over it otherwise football probably isn't the sport for you.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:22:28
Who finished top of the group? Wow, I'm even feeling petty myself here  :toocool:

You lost when it mattered most to you - against England.  


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:23:50
fuck off you welsh twat
:D :D :D


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:23:56
It's not a rivalry, I couldn't give a shit about Wales. An irritant yes


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:24:57
It's not a rivalry, I couldn't give a shit about Wales. An irritant yes
For somebody who doesn't give a shit you've spent a fair chunk of tonight chatting about it!!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:26:25
You lost when it mattered most to you - against England.  
I'm pretty sure that the semi final hurt more (I was there) but if you want to think that.......


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:27:06
It's not a rivalry, I couldn't give a shit about Wales. An irritant yes

Yeah, exactly. If Wales play someone else I just shrug - not my country, whatever. I don't go out of my way to support the other team, and I live here!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:27:41
Dear me, what a dick


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:30:21
Fuck me, what a dick
How, exactly? For not wanting England to do well at a World Cup?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:33:07
How, exactly? For not wanting England to do well at a World Cup?

I see no issues with Freddy not wanting England to win. Itís the same as most of the fans on here not wanting Oxford to win any of their games. He supports a national team and didnít want England to win. I bet when Oxford got relegated to conference most tbe people who are bashing Freddy were posting their joy of Oxford misfortune.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:34:53
You didn't want England to win either, what do you think is going to happen.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:41:01
You didn't want England to win either, what do you think is going to happen.

All I am saying is that is from your posts it appears that if someone is happy England didnít win a game of football then he is a dick. Yet if someone wants Oxford to lose a game of football then they are not a dick. There is no logic to your argument.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:42:16
It's a rub your nose in it bollocks, don't try and dress it up


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:43:32
I thought we did pretty well overall. Went back to being the usual England 2nd half. Anyways.. 2 points i noted. If Trippier (I think) hadn't pushed the Croatia player in the back on the flick on header for the 2nd, the chance wouldn't have occurred. Fine margins and all that.
 Secondly I think Southgate screwed up with the subs, Should have done the 3 before 90 mins for tactical reasons, we would have had another to use in extra time if thought through properly.  (although i'm not conveying that well)

Ultimately a lack of big game experience undid us, plus Croatia were pretty good.

Overall 7/10 for the 3/4  weeks, which is far better than our usual 2 or 3 out of 10 for big tournaments.

On the plus side I wont have to hear 3 lions for another couple of years..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 23:52:54
Oh, is that it? I'm off to bed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 00:41:56
Well at least we have another League 2 campaign to look forward to. The joys of being an English, Swindon fan....

Arenít we all a lucky bunch.

Exactly... this campaign which has exceeded expectations is icing on the cake, the real business starts in a little over 3 weeks. I'm hoping that STFC can emulate England, and exceed expectations... we'll soon be able to have the fun of TEFers expressing what their expectations might be.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 04:41:04
Oh well, knighthoods on hold.
A great effort overall but a sense of big opportunity missed.

Kane played too deep to no great effect.
Golden trophy is more important than the golden boot. Pass it.

Dele Alli didn't do enough to get the deli alley at Spurs new ground named after him.

Hope Croatia can go on and win against France.
Whoever collaborates best as a team will do it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 06:36:11
If it wasn't for the introduction of under 23 teams in the jpt this wouldn't have been possible.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 07:49:34
Better team won.

It hurts but we'll be back, this squad has rekindled my love for the National Team.. brighter things are ahead.

They did us proud.

A few things I don't understand:

The 'size of the country' argument. You don't need to be from a big country to be good at football..

Throwing a pint when you celebrate.. I get the emotions are high, but it makes you look like a cunt. A beer wasting cunt.

The "not supporting home nations" argument. When Wales advanced further than England in the Euros, I was rooting for them.. I don't see Wales and Scotland as enemies, rather.. I see them as neighbours.. yep, Oxford/City/Rovers etc are all Swindon's neighbours, but that's a totally different thing (to me, anyway).



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 07:57:34
Unfortunately, there were two defining moments in that game. Had Kane squared it to sterling for 2-0
It would have been a different story.
Then what was stones doing for Croatias 2nd. He fell asleep.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:25:55
Wales are no more our rival than Oldham are rivals with Man United.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:35:15
Another top class striker and a holding midfield player is what England are missing to just make that difference. Credit where it's due, they are so much more refreshing to see.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:50:02
Another top class striker and a holding midfield player is what England are missing to just make that difference. Credit where it's due, they are so much more refreshing to see.
A fit Charlie Austin and Jack Wilshire :-)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:17:57
Haven't read the thread so apols if I'm repeating.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain would have started ahead of Alli, and will do moving forward, which plugs the biggest weakness in this shape.

We are desperate for a second all-round striker though.

All in all, a tight game. They deserved to edge it, but we had the chances in the first half to put it to bed.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:22:25
What about Adam Lallana when fit? Would he fit in?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:34:10
Modric "Croatia motivated by lack of respect from English press". We just can't help ourselves


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:48:21
Perhaps they read something at half time?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:04:34
To echo whats been said we need someone creative in midfield who can actually create a chance and a second striking option, we also need to speak to Klopp and understand how he can train Liverpool to press and harry for 90 mins as once again we looked fucked after a little more than an hour last night. I still think it will help that some of the players coming through at lower levels are getting some experience of playing abroad. Sterling played OK last night within his limitations, its all very well saying that he stretches teams (which he does) but if we had a player with his pace and a footballing brain who could create end product either in terms of creating a chance of being able to finish it would be 100x better.

Not sure why people are getting themselves into such a lather about Welsh people not supporting England, why should they, just had the pleasure of a conversation with someone who spend the entire year saying what a Scottish wanker Andy Murray is and then moans that the Scots don't support us. Plus it really something to crow about that we are a little bit better than a country than cannot even muster an entirely professional league.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:04:54
Disappointed but not surprised, too many England fans thought it would be a walk in the park last night.

1st half we looked well in control and should have put the game beyond Croatia, 2nd half we let the nerves get to us and thats what cost us, too many off performances, Young and Trippier (despite his great goal) had their worst games of the tournament, I thought Sterling looked pretty good most of the game, Kane wasn't at the races and I am still not convinced by Alli and Lingard.

Still I enjoyed the run to get to the semis, well done England and very well done Gareth.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the similarity between Sterling and Anderson for us, great running with pace on breakaways but his final ball/shot isn't quite as good as it could be most of the time.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:06:42
Modric "Croatia motivated by lack of respect from English press". We just can't help ourselves

I think the problem is that as a nation we are shite at other languages and thus have no idea what the foreign media are writing about us, however a lot of people abroad speak passable English and thus the jingoistic shite our media spouts (only writing what their readership want to read) gets circulated wider and picked up upon, we just don't seem to get that.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:11:08
Welsh in my local were fucking pathetic tonight. Cheering Croatia as if they were in the competition themselves, then singing you're going home to a bunch of England fans. I put em right.

So the Welsh, when in Wales, are supposed to support England, I bet that fucking told them?

And we wonder why people have an impression of the English as being arrogant colonial twats?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:13:03
Disappointed but not surprised, too many England fans thought it would be a walk in the park last night.

1st half we looked well in control and should have put the game beyond Croatia, 2nd half we let the nerves get to us and thats what cost us, too many off performances, Young and Trippier (despite his great goal) had their worst games of the tournament, I thought Sterling looked pretty good most of the game, Kane wasn't at the races and I am still not convinced by Alli and Lingard.

Still I enjoyed the run to get to the semis, well done England and very well done Gareth.

Is it just me or does anyone else see the similarity between Sterling and Anderson for us, great running with pace on breakaways but his final ball/shot isn't quite as good as it could be most of the time.

Pretty much all dat! The one positive is that bar Sweden a lot of our players singularly didn't actually have that great a tournament which bodes well for the future if they continue to develop  both singularly and as a team.

At least us miserable twats who tolerate it week in week out can have football back now!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:13:30
I don't think anyone is expecting support Horlock, it's the "anybody but England" attitude that's a bit tiresome.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:18:07
At least us miserable twats who tolerate it week in week out can have football back now!
Very much this! fed up with a lot of my friends and family who have less than 1% interest in football keep saying, we will win it, its coming home!

God that wore thin weeks ago.

Thanks for the fun but now the real football starts and thats very rarely fun.

I don't think anyone is expecting support Horlock, it's the "anybody but England" attitude that's a bit tiresome.
Yes the Jocks and Taffs have had a field day with this and that wore thin before the tournament began.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:27:07
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Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:29:23
still don't care about ABE. In fact I prefer it to a 'home nations' love in


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 12:12:40
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It's posts like these that highlight how bothered some of you are about the Welsh. You wouldn't feel the need to respond
if it didn't touch a nerve.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 12:37:45
Likewise


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 12:47:36
It's posts like these that highlight how bothered some of you are about the Welsh. You wouldn't feel the need to respond
if it didn't touch a nerve.

No, no, no, it's the gloating that bothers people(not me personally). You need to look at how we reacted to you being knocked out of the euros, if you want to compare.

Smaller teams, countries etc. always hate their larger adversaries more. It's why Oxford hate us more than the reverse, and why we hate Germany more whilst paying you little mind.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 12:59:42
Smaller teams, countries etc. always hate their larger adversaries more. It's why Oxford hate us more than the reverse, and why we hate Germany more whilst paying you little mind.

Itís this exactly, we all had a good laugh at Germany getting knocked out, because we know that they are now (and have been for some time) our superiors at Football.

So just spare a thought for the Welsh, because they are inferior not only in footballing terms but in just about everything else as well.

So for that reason alone let them enjoy our demise from the World Cup, because after all once the joy has worn off they will just have that inferiority to go back to.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 13:06:10
I actually tend to hope the other home nations do well in competitions. Except for against England, for reasons which should be obvious.

If they want to try and give out some stick, though, then I'm happy to give it back, and they should expect it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 13:29:26
It's posts like these that highlight how bothered some of you are about the Welsh. You wouldn't feel the need to respond
if it didn't touch a nerve.

Surely just pointing out how as a nation Wales has short man syndrome, coupled with an inferiority.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 13:45:19
I don't know why anyone would come on to a predominantly English forum having a go at England and not expect to get a bit of flat back.

Fuck off.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 13:50:52
Will be interesting to see if a full house of home nations can make into the 48 team tournament.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 14:03:25
No, no, no, it's the gloating that bothers people(not me personally). You need to look at how we reacted to you being knocked out of the euros, if you want to compare.

Smaller teams, countries etc. always hate their larger adversaries more. It's why Oxford hate us more than the reverse, and why we hate Germany more whilst paying you little mind.
Check the 2016 thread out fella, there was more than one of you willing us to lose the semi final.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 14:05:11
Itís this exactly, we all had a good laugh at Germany getting knocked out, because we know that they are now (and have been for some time) our superiors at Football.

So just spare a thought for the Welsh, because they are inferior not only in footballing terms but in just about everything else as well.

So for that reason alone let them enjoy our demise from the World Cup, because after all once the joy has worn off they will just have that inferiority to go back to.
Exactly. When a small nation massively overachieves & their bigger, more illustrious neighbors continually underachieve, naturally there's going to be a bit of banter.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 14:07:02
I actually tend to hope the other home nations do well in competitions. Except for against England, for reasons which should be obvious.

If they want to try and give out some stick, though, then I'm happy to give it back, and they should expect it.
Of course we should. I fully expect it & think it's totally warranted. I wouldn't expect anything less. Your all good chaps on here, absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of healthy banter.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 14:10:10
I don't know why anyone would come on to a predominantly English forum having a go at England and not expect to get a bit of flat back.

Fuck off.
Where have I insinuated that I didn't expect any back. I think the responses have been hilarious & at no point did I expect not to get a bit of stick. Being called a dick & told to fuck off is personal but I'm sure my skin is thick enough to deal with it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 14:20:16
I love whales.  :)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 16:58:38
This should probably go in the whats wrong with football thread, but couldn't be arsed to find it...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44800889


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 17:28:03
Surely not anti IRA songs at the semi. Guess I'm missing a reference to something else

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44811549


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 17:30:24
Surely not anti IRA songs at the semi. Guess I'm missing a reference to something else

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44811549

I had assumed it be something Balkan based and likely incredibly ill informed?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 18:39:11
would make more sense!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 18:48:20
'No Surrender' is clearly an anti-IRA song.

It's the Marching Season in NI at the moment and it's been kicking off a bit in Belfast and Derry/Londonderry/Derry so it must be related to that.

Why you would want to sing it at a World Cup Semi Final in Moscow though is a mystery to me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 18:48:57
So the Welsh, when in Wales, are supposed to support England, I bet that fucking told them?

And we wonder why people have an impression of the English as being arrogant colonial twats?  :hmmm:

Strawman or what. And you don't know what I said to them, so your "bet that told fucking told them" might have done for all you know.
And I am far from an arrogant twat.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 18:50:26
Quote from: OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR
'No Surrender' is clearly an anti-IRA song.

It's the Marching Season in NI at the moment and it's been kicking off a bit in Belfast and Derry/Londonderry/Derry so it must be related to that.

Why you would want to sing it at a World Cup Semi Final in Moscow though is a mystery to me.

nor indeed at Brentford, which was the last time I heard it live. Many years ago.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 19:10:09
Apparently they were making heterosexuals feels unwelcome, by singing songs about Southgate 'turning them on'.

There's nothing essentially wrong with 'no surrender', the problem is more the people who choose to sing it. They could say they don't want any political chants I guess, otherwise they're saying don't discriminate against terrorists?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 19:12:23
Isn't "no surrender" the EDL motto?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 19:22:34
Isn't "no surrender" the EDL motto?

A quick Google certainly suggests they use it a lot. Surely it's no more there's than the union flag or St. George's Cross though?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 20:48:09
A quick Google certainly suggests they use it a lot. Surely it's no more there's than the union flag or St. George's Cross though?

Depends how much you believe someone can appropriate a saying/symbol etc I guess. I've always associated the phrase with them in recent times.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 22:47:19
No surrender is a shortened version of the anti IRA one sung at most football grounds by the usual people.  Heard it being used in the pub last night as well, most of whom were probably not old enough to have much of an idea of why.

I was up in Glasgow last weekend and an Orange March came by, very odd.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 23:04:06
Oh, and the RAF WW2 one got a sounding as well in the pub, cracking lads no doubt, mush for brains though, as shown by the lad who decided throwing a chair at the screen was the right way to sign off the night - he missed, it was a easier to hit it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 23:26:48
You in the states?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 13, 2018, 07:13:56
You in the states?

No surrender is a shortened version of the anti IRA one sung at most football grounds by the usual people.  Heard it being used in the pub last night as well, most of whom were probably not old enough to have much of an idea of why.

I was up in Glasgow last weekend and an Orange March came by, very odd.

There may be a Glasgow in North Carolina of course but I'm guessing it's the one in Scotland.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 13, 2018, 08:37:09
On holiday in Swindon, something I never expected to happen in my lifetime :-)

Popped to Scotland while we were here, watching the Quarter Final in Edingburgh!  Never been to Scotland before, takes becoming an expat to do it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 15:28:14
Is the 3rd/4th game the most pointless game ever?



Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 15:31:18
Is the 3rd/4th game the most pointless game ever?



No


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Amir on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 15:33:25
Is the 3rd/4th game the most pointless game ever?



No, that would be Swindon Town vs. unknown u21 team. It's pointless but it's still England and I still want to win, especially as the waffle munchers beat us in the group stage.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 16:37:55
2-0


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 16:51:34
All very well playing tippy tappy and making nice triangles at the back, but you have to have movement up front and you sometimes have to take a player on or take a gamble. Thought England looked very poor and never really in the game.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 16:54:16
Why do the England fans dress like knights?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 17:00:21
Why do the England fans dress like knights?
Crusades innit? Richard I and all that...one of the many cliches that always gets rolled out with England and their supporters. I hate it. I've not noticed the 'England Band' playing the awful and monotonous theme from the Great Escape this time round - maybe I wasn't paying attention but if I'm right, that's a big plus in my book.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 17:20:42
Thought England looked very poor and never really in the game.

They were poor in the first half, thatís for sure.

However I thought they looked ok after the changes as half time & had opportunities to score, albeit Belgium looked really dangerous on the break.

England miss a creative midfield player, someone who is really world class


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 17:34:37
Crusades innit? Richard I and all that...one of the many cliches that always gets rolled out with England and their supporters. I hate it. I've not noticed the 'England Band' playing the awful and monotonous theme from the Great Escape this time round - maybe I wasn't paying attention but if I'm right, that's a big plus in my book.
Maybe because there was no 'great escape' the last couple of games.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 17:46:29
Crusades innit? Richard I and all that...one of the many cliches that always gets rolled out with England and their supporters. I hate it. I've not noticed the 'England Band' playing the awful and monotonous theme from the Great Escape this time round - maybe I wasn't paying attention but if I'm right, that's a big plus in my book.

Yeah that Crusades shit is cringey.

The history books will say 2018 England finished 4th which was a tremendous achievement but I donít think we should get carried away, we still need A LOT of work. We were so far behind Belgium today. (I know it was basically a friendly)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 18:06:26
Why do the England fans dress like knights?

Ironic really as 90% of Templars and Crusaders were French.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 18:12:01
Launched Randy Crawford

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVR7WLsvAg


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 20:11:08
Yeah that Crusades shit is cringey.


Not as cringey as the ĎEngland bandí.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 20:50:34
I saw two knobs dressed up as Teletubbies at Wimbledon..

People will seemingly do anything to get on TV


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 21:43:27
Quote from: Sippo
Not as cringey as the ĎEngland bandí.

surely nobody likes the bloody band..


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, July 14, 2018, 22:30:36
surely nobody likes the bloody band..

I've yet to meet anyone who does, and I think if I do I'll probably keep away from them.
They were definitely there anyway, whether or not they were playing TGE.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 13:38:06
surely nobody likes the bloody band..

And am I right in thinking that the FA get them tickets for every game?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: adje on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 13:47:02
Had the misfortune to be  1 row away at the Italy friendly.Knobheads who really think they are universally loved


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 14:41:42
Almost on top of us now, and no one seemingly interested.   Come on chaps, I know it's a nice day but it is the World Cup Final (Sorry  European World Cup Final),   Can understand why all the interest has gone,  sure it would be totally different if we were still in it.
Personally,   backed Croatia weeks ago at 14/1 but trebled my money on a cash out last night,  so took the profit and just left a couple of quid to run at 14/1, really can't see it, think France will be too strong, hope I'm wrong, no I hope I'm right, otherwise I've chucked money away !.
Anyway,   roll on the real football,   good old league 2,   Com'on town, lets do it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:15:27
France to win 3-1


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:17:34
A French person once said to me that Germany have a lot of foreigners in their national team...oh the irony


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:21:00
France to win 3-1

France score to make it 4-1


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:24:04
4-2


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:24:50
Lloris is shite


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:40:09
Lloris is shite

...and going to pick up the World Cup as captain.

I wish I was that shite.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: StefPol on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:43:24
France are efficient with such a young squad. Could dominate European/World football for next 8 years


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:55:27
A French person once said to me that Germany have a lot of foreigners in their national team...oh the irony
Ah that would be the EU Ďprojectí at work.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 17:58:49
Ah that would be the EU Ďprojectí at work.

Or colonisation


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 18:26:13
Or colonisation
By the back door in a lot of cases.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 19:40:44
France are efficient with such a young squad. Could dominate European/World football for next 8 years

Nah


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 20:32:42
so Kane won the golden boot? thanks Panama


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, July 15, 2018, 21:39:12
What a excellent World Cup. Some brilliant games. No trouble/violence, well none reported. VAR, on the whole, seemed to work quite well.

Think the best team lost today.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 16, 2018, 07:41:04
What a excellent World Cup. Some brilliant games. No trouble/violence, well none reported. VAR, on the whole, seemed to work quite well.

Think the best team lost today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-44844447/paris-celebrations-turn-violent-on-the-champs-elysees


Title: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 16, 2018, 07:49:11
thought var was a very mixed bag . great for offsides and nothing subjective. Frustratingly slowed the game for no better result at other times

But even yesterday France got an underserved free kick and a penalty from a what must have been the best disguised deliberate handball ever made. Shit refs remain shit.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, July 16, 2018, 08:35:55
VAR needs looking at. There seems to be no consistency.

Was watching the tennis over the weekend and though why not give the 2 captains a set number of challenges, per half or a game. Once the challenges have been used, thats it.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, July 16, 2018, 09:07:26
VAR needs looking at. There seems to be no consistency.

Was watching the tennis over the weekend and though why not give the 2 captains a set number of challenges, per half or a game. Once the challenges have been used, thats it.

VAR does not make decisions. It just gives the ref more time and information to make a decision. Any inconsistency is down to the referee on the field.

Yesterday's pen was not a VAR controversy, it was just a stupid call by the ref.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 16, 2018, 09:08:52
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-44844447/paris-celebrations-turn-violent-on-the-champs-elysees
If this happened in England the world would be up in arms about English hooligans...again, especially the Scots and Welsh.

As its the French nobody bats an eyelid.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 09:47:08
France are efficient with such a young squad. Could dominate European/World football for next 8 years

I must confess I wasn't really paying full attention to the final as I was catching up with the Tour at the same time, but did I hear them say that the average age of the French team was actually younger than the England team that we are getting all a lather about?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, July 16, 2018, 09:49:31
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-44844447/paris-celebrations-turn-violent-on-the-champs-elysees

No trouble in Russia I meant. The media once again over hyped pre-tournament.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:16:55
VAR does not make decisions. It just gives the ref more time and information to make a decision. Any inconsistency is down to the referee on the field.

Yesterday's pen was not a VAR controversy, it was just a stupid call by the ref.
It was my understanding that the ref's watching VAR give the ref on the pitch a signal if they think something should be looked at and then the ref makes a decision if he looks at it.

I may be wrong.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:20:14
It was my understanding that the ref's watching VAR give the ref on the pitch a signal if they think something should be looked at and then the ref makes a decision if he looks at it.

I may be wrong.

I think that the off field crowd can made a decision is a blatant error has been made, however if its a borderline case they can just refer it back to the on field ref to make the final decision as per yesterday. The thing with yesterday was it really came down to intent and I am not sure how that can be decided via watching a video?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:30:55
 I thought it was a pen...  I based my case on Alan Shearer thinking it wasn't.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:50:29
Pen for me..

His hand (unluckily) seemed to follow the patch of the ball.

The freekick was proper cheating and Shearer having a pop at the ref was unfair.

If a Gippo cons an old lady on her doorstep you don't blame the old lady...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:52:29
No trouble in Russia I meant. The media once again over hyped pre-tournament.

The locals were under strict instruction to keep it clean, or else.......


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, July 16, 2018, 11:15:49
I thought it was a pen...  I based my case on Alan Shearer thinking it wasn't.

I missed most the game beause I forgot it was on. But that's enough to convinve me.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, July 16, 2018, 11:21:21
Hopefully Pussy Riot won't be "disappeared" after the pitch invasion.

As town fans we have also been on the receiving end of a ďviolation of spectatorsí rightsĒ over the last three seasons.

Not much chivalry on display with the brolly hogging at the presentation.

Very enjoyable tournament and for once no one complained about the Germans getting the beach towels down first.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:16:34
did I hear them say that the average age of the French team was actually younger than the England team that we are getting all a lather about?

They did, but I wasnít convinced, so i checked.

The team that started for France yesterday was exactly the same age as the England team that started against Croatia in terms of years.
If you go down to days the French team was a combined 500 days older.

I guess they may have meant squad instead of just the starting XI


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:20:55
I'm sure I heard one commentator mention that England had the 2nd youngest squad in the tournament.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:33:24
They did, but I wasnít convinced, so i checked.

The team that started for France yesterday was exactly the same age as the England team that started against Croatia in terms of years.
If you go down to days the French team was a combined 500 days older.

I guess they may have meant squad instead of just the starting XI

I can imagine that Ashley Young rather skewed the figures?

In terms of sheer quality they seem a long way ahead of us.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:41:19
I can imagine that Ashley Young rather skewed the figures?

In terms of sheer quality they seem a long way ahead of us.

They had three players over 30, whereas we had just Ashley Young.

I guess you would look at the experience rather than just age, for example Pogba is the same age as Lingard (in fact heís 3 months younger), and Harry Maguire is the same age as Varane.

Hopefully the experience of this tournament will help our team in the future.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:50:08
I can imagine that Ashley Young rather skewed the figures?

In terms of sheer quality they seem a long way ahead of us.

France isn't really a footballing country.... what it does have is a huge talent pool in the banlieues, into which the small local clubs have tapped and their FA has invested in coaching and education, culminating in the Clairfontaine academy.

The French league is essentially a feeder league, for particularly the Prem and la Liiga, with some going to Germany and Italy...this of course helps the players learn.

Our FA is still way behind....  OK we've now got Burton which was established after France won 20 years ago, but one of the stated aims of selling Wembley is to put the money into grass roots.  Belgium for example suddenly got good on the back of some investment into coaching and facilities.

However... I'm guessing for most fans of football in England they'd rather have a strong domestic set up, and come up a bit short on the international front.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 16, 2018, 12:52:51
I think you need to take into account number of caps as well as age of the squad.  e.g. I heard a stat on the England vs Belgium game..  We had around 280 caps for our team vs around around 750 caps for Belgium - that shows better the international experience of our team vs others.

We have been building this squad for less than 2 years, if the core of it stays together with a sprinkling of the World cup winning youths coming through, it should be a relatively positive outlook.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 16, 2018, 13:00:11
I think you need to take into account number of caps as well as age of the squad.  e.g. I heard a stat on the England vs Belgium game..  We had around 280 caps for our team vs around around 750 caps for Belgium - that shows better the international experience of our team vs others.

We have been building this squad for less than 2 years, if the core of it stays together with a sprinkling of the World cup winning youths coming through, it should be a relatively positive outlook.

The positive outlook has to mean more regular appearances in semi finals and finals of Euros and WC's..... ok you can't win them all, but this WC should act as springboard for 2020 Euros, especially as semis and final are at Wembley.

You'd like to think GS will hang about, as there's more restructuring work to be done and he's now got a voice.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 13:02:12
France isn't really a footballing country.... what it does have is a huge talent pool in the banlieues, into which the small local clubs have tapped and their FA has invested in coaching and education, culminating in the Clairfontaine academy.


I wasn't aware that we didn't have suburbs in this country?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 16, 2018, 13:05:14
I'll put a dampener on it :) We did well, clearly not ready to sit at the top table quite yet but there is hope.

However the run also did remind me a bot of Wales in the last Euro's. A team achieving more than they should with great spirit/attitude. And look how that ended!


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 13:06:33
I think you need to take into account number of caps as well as age of the squad.  e.g. I heard a stat on the England vs Belgium game..  We had around 280 caps for our team vs around around 750 caps for Belgium - that shows better the international experience of our team vs others.

We have been building this squad for less than 2 years, if the core of it stays together with a sprinkling of the World cup winning youths coming through, it should be a relatively positive outlook.

The issue is our young players don't get caps for the simple reason that in the majority of cases they are not even playing in the highest league until they are heading towards their early/mid 20's, look at the teams which have won at the lower age groups (u19's u21's), very few of the players are anywhere near the first teams where they are and unless they get loaned out to a lower prem club (like Loftus Cheek last year for instance) its a few seasons in the championship which is not really a grounding for anything - see the way that promoted teams rapidly turn over players with those who got them promoted migrating back to the Championship.

Hopefully is starting to change as a few young players have grown a pair and started moving abroad for experience etc so fingers crossed, my main worry is that we don't seem to have anyone of the level of say Hazard or Mbappe either in the present crop or coming through as yet?

I'll put a dampener on it :) We did well, clearly not ready to sit at the top table quite yet but there is hope.

However the run also did remind me a bot of Wales in the last Euro's. A team achieving more than they should with great spirit/attitude. And look how that ended!

We did very well and when it got to the semi's I think we settled in our natural position within the 4 teams.

My worry was still the fact that whatever our talents were, we just didn't seem able to play at a decent tempo for more than an hour and looked knackered after that, mirroring a fitness issue which seems to have befallen Swindon for the last couple of years?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, July 16, 2018, 14:20:20
France isn't really a footballing country.... what it does have is a huge talent pool in the banlieues, into which the small local clubs have tapped and their FA has invested in coaching and education, culminating in the Clairfontaine academy.

The French league is essentially a feeder league, for particularly the Prem and la Liiga, with some going to Germany and Italy...this of course helps the players learn.

Our FA is still way behind....  OK we've now got Burton which was established after France won 20 years ago, but one of the stated aims of selling Wembley is to put the money into grass roots.  Belgium for example suddenly got good on the back of some investment into coaching and facilities.

However... I'm guessing for most fans of football in England they'd rather have a strong domestic set up, and come up a bit short on the international front.

The team that has reached three of the last six World Cup finals. Not really a footballing country


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 16, 2018, 14:28:25
*Reg facts


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, July 16, 2018, 14:34:10
He's got a point, France isn't really that big into football, more of a rugby country.  In the bar I work in, which is only a couple of hours from Lyon we're only ever busy for PSG Champion's League games insofar as french teams go whereas we have frenchies asking for rugby much more frequently.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 16, 2018, 15:35:13
He's got a point, France isn't really that big into football, more of a rugby country.  In the bar I work in, which is only a couple of hours from Lyon we're only ever busy for PSG Champion's League games insofar as french teams go whereas we have frenchies asking for rugby much more frequently.

PSG, only really came to prominence in 91 whern Canal+ decided that Paris should have a football club, for them to show on tele. 

They get a 40 odd thousand crowd, but there isn't another Paris club of any size.  Marseilles and Lyon are football places, and there is some interest in the north in places like Lille.  However the total top flight attendances would be well down on our Championship.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 15:51:24
Nice to see the Croatian president rolling up to games. She apparently attended every Croatia match, travelled in economy class and sat with the fans in the stadium. She refused to take any pay for her days not at work.

As she is eastern European here's a Picture for Reg....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiLADVDWAAApR_2.jpg:large)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 16, 2018, 16:01:22
She's also a conservative, so he'll have very mixed feelings indeed...


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 16, 2018, 16:09:14
She's also a conservative, so he'll have very mixed feelings indeed...

Wedding ring.... I'd steer well clear.


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 16, 2018, 16:56:38
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37204390_934151043436006_2284503352534368256_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c6fcbb87c1dea1d4a53ba5262389a7f0&oe=5BE01BA9)


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, July 16, 2018, 17:06:02
Nice to see the Croatian president rolling up to games. She apparently attended every Croatia match, travelled in economy class and sat with the fans in the stadium. She refused to take any pay for her days not at work.

As she is eastern European here's a Picture for Reg....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiLADVDWAAApR_2.jpg:large)

She should go in the birds I would thread


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 00:35:45
If you like "birds" with fucked up elbows


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018, 13:47:03
Nicked off that twitter

The next World Cup is on the run up to Christmas isn't it, can we expect another remix of its coming home featuring Chris Rea?


Title: Re: The world Cup Russia 2018 Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 18, 2018, 13:54:44
It's driving home, it's driving home, it's driving, golf is driving home.