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Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 07:38:42
Can't believe no-one has started one.

2.1 win for me today as am having a rare outing at the CG.
 :pint:

Not sure what the 93 squad will make of the current one  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Professor on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 07:44:51
Sorry, didn't see your post when I started one. A victory would be very, very welcome.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 08:47:48
I know of at least 2 people who are in Swindon today that are not bothering going to the football today despite the incredibly generous £3.07 discounted ticket prices.

I think we all know how today goes, Grimsby are awful and we are now really, literally on last chance saloon for the play offs (and relying on a Lincoln and Mansfield collapse) and so you would expect we would go out and give Grimsby a damn good thrashing......

But this is 2018 Swindon at home. A limp 1-1 draw.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:01:12
Although there's not much in this game for us.... it's massive for Grimsby.

The bit that is in it for us, is very much a perception thing.

We could do with a win, in order to lift the gloom about how next season might work out.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:14:00
Grimsby are fighting for thier L2 survival and badly need a win which will guarantee them safety if Barnet fail win at home to Newport.

Their current form is LDLWD.

We still have a minute chance of reaching the play offs but even if we win our last 3 games it now totally out of our own hands and probably not even THE most optimistic Town fan honestly thinks we can still make it so it depends on the character of the players.

Some are playing for their Swindon futures, I doubt that even 5 of our starting line up today will start our first game of next season.

I would like to see Henry and Romanski start at least one of the last 3 games so we can see what they have about them.

I have no problem giving Twine a starting slot in every game until the end of the season as he has to start somewhere and has shown some glimpses of good quality especially playing wide left and also a lot of what you would expect from aplayer of his age, bad decisions, sitting back and watching the game go on around him etc but thats to be expected at this level being thrown in at the deep end.

Most important though is Henry who needs games and Moore and RCC have both looked poor.

Nothing much to lose today not much to gain either.

2-1 defeat with Richards scoring a penalty.

5,455 crowd with 354 Grims there.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:14:08
Going to the game but couldn't really give much of a fuck about it. Hopefully we'll see a couple of our young uns. The score is pretty irrelevant. Last time I saw Grimsby was when brez did his arm. Up to that point he was brilliant. After injury and Granville getting the goaly coach job he was ordinary to crap. Those first few games though it looked like we had a top keeper.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:15:49
Henry has the makings of a good keeper. I'd happily see him, twine and romanski see the season out.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:26:36
Henry has the makings of a good keeper. I'd happily see him, twine and romanski see the season out.
Absolutely, nothing to lose really.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:40:37
Henry has the makings of a good keeper. I'd happily see him, twine and romanski see the season out.
What about Iandolo? Or is he injured?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:51:44
What about Iandolo? Or is he injured?
Hes not been on the bench since the home defeat to Cheltnumb, not sure if PB doesn't rate him or hes injured.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:52:25
What about Iandolo? Or is he injured?
Iandolo is an interesting one. He's got something about him but hasn't been able to nail down a spot. I'd happily keep him. He's got a decent left foot but he can't play wing back. He's got to be in the mid or winger.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 10:55:44
I'm going, think we win 2-0. Looking forward to seeing some of the youngsters play.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 11:08:00
Iandolo is an interesting one. He's got something about him but hasn't been able to nail down a spot. I'd happily keep him. He's got a decent left foot but he can't play wing back. He's got to be in the mid or winger.
He is an awful wing back but going forward he looks pretty good, as you say a wide midfielder or left winger with a decent left back behind him and he could be an asset.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 11:09:32
Iandolo is an interesting one. He's got something about him but hasn't been able to nail down a spot. I'd happily keep him. He's got a decent left foot but he can't play wing back. He's got to be in the mid or winger.

I wonder if we/he doesn’t know his best position yet. He’s still young and learning and perhaps next season he’ll really come of age, hopefully with Tom Smith in the side as well.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 11:50:45
Can't believe no-one has started one.

2.1 win for me today as am having a rare outing at the CG.
 :pint:

Not sure what the 93 squad will make of the current one  :hmmm:

If they donned their boots today they’d piss all over them still.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 12:23:37
Most important though is Henry who needs games and Moore and RCC have both looked poor.

That's a bit harsh on Moore and RCC, they're both playing in a division well above their skill level.
If we were non league then they'd be OK reserve keepers.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 12:30:58
Most important though is Henry who needs games and Moore and RCC have both looked poor.

That's a bit harsh on Moore and RCC, they're both playing in a division well above their skill level.
If we were non league then they'd be OK reserve keepers.

I take it that was from my quote?

I personally think RCC and Moore look no better than reserve keepers and almost every side we have played in this league their keepers have looked better than those 2 with few exceptions.

Coventry fans did warn us when we signed RCC about his limitations and how he cost them about 30 goals from his own individual errors in the last couple of seasons, that had been born out as true for us too.

Also that Barrow fans were not bothered that they released Stuart Moore who they considered not good enough to hold down a regular place at Conference level and Luton fans said he wa one of their worst keepers they had ever signed, he has played a couple of games when I genuinely thought he looked ok and others when he has looked like a rabbit in the headlights and his kicking is terrible.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: normy on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:05:29
Looking forward to seeing some young uns, as others have said. Might just as well try them out. Also Henry if he's fit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:16:10
Every time Henry has donned his gloves for us, he's looked utter garbage... I have no idea where the idea of him possessing any competence whatsoever has come from


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:23:39
I thought Moore made some good saves last week, his distribution was bad on the other hand. Charles-Cook is absolute rubbish


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bedford Red on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:24:20
Every time Henry has donned his gloves for us, he's looked utter garbage... I have no idea where the idea of him possessing any competence whatsoever has come from

When i saw him play against Shrewsbury (last match of 15-16) he looked ok that day, that's the only time i've seen him play though. I'd give him a few games, see what he's like. The other two options don't seem much better


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:55:21
Every time Henry has donned his gloves for us, he's looked utter garbage... I have no idea where the idea of him possessing any competence whatsoever has come from
A lot of the optimism about his level of ability comes from him being called up to England at U20 level and if the coaches have seen enough to call him up then that means a lot more to me than 99% of all fans verdicts.

Irrelevant anyway as hes not even made the bench today.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 13:56:47
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbTx9r9X0AE7Srq.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:00:55
Vigoroux tweet about Flitcroft is fairly interesting


'I don’t hate anyone on this planet except for that man and his sidekick, I will say what I want.. They didn’t put you through what they put me through 👍🏽, they made me hate going into work, made me hate what I worked so hard to do my whole life.'


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:13:35
Vigoroux tweet about Flitcroft is fairly interesting


'I don’t hate anyone on this planet except for that man and his sidekick, I will say what I want.. They didn’t put you through what they put me through 👍🏽, they made me hate going into work, made me hate what I worked so hard to do my whole life.'

I don't get why people are having a go at him for having a pop at Flitcroft.  He can say what he wants, in the same way that our fans do every week on twitter..


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:14:46
Romanski struggling a bit. Physically tough  for him. not having a go, just an observation.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:24:30
Romanski struggling a bit. Physically tough  for him. not having a go, just an observation.
He is growing into the game a bit but he needs to add a bit more strength to his armoury.

McGivern winning most balls in the air but his long ball distribution is terrible.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:26:11
Typical Div 4 match, a few chances, nothing much clear cut and very little quality on either side.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:26:51
yeah starting to settle now


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:30:31
Grimsby player nearly clears the CGH from 20 yards out, awful shot.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:32:53
Mullin goal disallowed and hes booked.


Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:33:02
was it!? handball that is


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:33:44
was it!? handball that is
Will look back now and see.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:34:46
Difficlut to see but probably handled in with the diving header, bit harsh.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:36:18
cheers


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:38:05
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987701632648523783 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987701632648523783)

Disallowed goal


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:39:13
should have been a goal. off the bar


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:39:32
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987701632648523783 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987701632648523783)

Disallowed goal
Yeah I have zoomed in and its impossible to see from that angle if hand is alongside head when he dives in.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:39:47
Richards hits the bar.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:40:31
should have been a goal. off the bar
Mullin shouting at Richards to pass it but for me Richards had every right to go for goal himself there.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:43:09
Grimsby are a very niggly side, keep leaving a foot in and ankle taps when we run past them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:44:47
Mullin shouting at Richards to pass it but for me Richards had every right to go for goal himself there.

https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987703021470732289 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987703021470732289)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:44:59
Husseys crossing today is utterly piss poor.


Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:48:05
what the fuck. no way..

penalty my arse


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:48:43
Pen to them.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:49:47
0-1



Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:50:36
McGivern didn't look to make any contact at first look with the striker who fell over his own feet well inside the box.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:51:00
HT 0-1


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:51:22
We seem to have absolutely nothing these days.nothing


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:52:06
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987705041233547264

Softest penalty ive seen for a while.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:52:21
what the fuck. no way..

penalty my arse

https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987705041233547264 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/987705041233547264)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:52:24
If he clipped him it was outside the box but it looks like he tripped over his own foot in the box


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:52:33
McGivern didn't look to make any contact at first look with the striker who fell over his own feet well inside the box.

Looked like he realised he wasn’t getting to the ball so fell over


Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:52:51
fucking hell, seen the replay. that's bollocks. he's tripped himself up


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:53:14
Watched it 3 times and I see no contact from McGivern on the runner who dives inside the box.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:55:10
If he clipped him it was outside the box but it looks like he tripped over his own foot in the box
Definately inside the box mate but there was no contact, McGivern was too far away to connect.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/ik4zachdl/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:55:12
Exactly how many pens have we conceded this season?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 14:57:33
Definately inside the box mate but there was no contact, McGivern was too far away to connect.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/ik4zachdl/Untitled.png)

I watched it a few time, it looked like McGivern’s leg brushed (and I mean brushed) the striker’s leg outside the box but he carried on and tripped himself up inside the box.

Either way, it’s not a penalty.

Rose wound the Townend up after scoring as well.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:00:29
RCC has done ok, his kicking is still not great but better than Moores was last week, he still won't come out for crosses.

Knoyle looks good when we attack down the right and defensively hes doing ok but Grimsby are not attacking us down that flank.

Hussey is defending better but his crossing is terrible today.

McGivern looks ok in the air not so on the floor, Romanski is doing ok and doesn't look out of place and isn't overawed by the match.

Dunne is doing ok, his long passing poor but he is winnign a few tackles and his short passing is ok.

Taylor looks more threating on the left than through the middle where he is innefectual.

Anderson is running around a lot, getting kicked a lot but his final ball is terrible.

Mullin is putting in a lot of effort but not getting into the right positions when the ball comes in, hes doing ok.

Richards is putting himself about more than his last few games and could have got a couple if he connected better.

Linganzi is probably my MoM so far, winnign headers, passing well and tackling, his shooting is not great but hes our best midfielder for me so far, he lost the ball in their half for the penalty but he has done quite well for me.

Grimsby are poor and offered no threat at all and were given a goal by the ref.

Poor home attendance today too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:04:19
I watched it a few time, it looked like McGivern’s leg brushed (and I mean brushed) the striker’s leg outside the box but he carried on and tripped himself up inside the box.

Either way, it’s not a penalty.
Its definately never a penalty but that screenshot is before McGivern could get near the snipered striker so any leg brush must have happened inside the box, not that there was any, he fell over his own feet and should be embarressed he conned the ref. Fair play that he got away with it but thats a shocking dive.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:10:18
Grimsby have their first shot of the game that I remember, well wide.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:11:21
Awful penalty decision.  Yet again we find ourselves losing to a poor team at the bottom end of the table.  The sooner this season ends the better.  


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:12:45
If he clipped him it was outside the box but it looks like he tripped over his own foot in the box

Yeah agree. Looking at it again, the only time they could've been near each other was outside the box. Once in the box the player suddenly has legs made of blancmange!

Awful. Should be 1-0 (potentially 2-0) and we somehow find ourselves 0-1.

I'll go 2-1 Town. Grimsby offer nothing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:13:53
Anderson makes their keeper make a save but Romanski can't hit the rebound on target.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:16:05
Lovely run by Romanski! wins a corner.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:16:55
What does Brown have against Elsnik?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:17:27
Banks and McDermott on for Mullin and Dunne.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:18:14
What does Brown have against Elsnik?
Probably just the way he has played the last few games he came on for, hes been very very poor.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:19:11
Romanski blocks a goalbound shot from 6 yards out.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:20:06
Fuck .Lincoln 1 up pen


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:24:29
Fuck .Lincoln 1 up pen
Our season was well over before today IMO, I just don't like to be cheated out of points as Harry Cardwell did today (if it stays this score).


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:24:56
What does Brown have against Elsnik?

Nothing, he's just injured.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:25:29
Linc 1 -1 Col


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:30:47
I'm glad I'm set here watching this rather then sat in the sun drinking 🍺.

comedy officiating too


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:31:16
This ref us a fucking joke.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:32:14
Grims player heads the ball over the line which RCC catches and the ref gives them a corner? WTF?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:33:23
twine to shine
posting in rhyme
oh good lord
I'm really bored


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:33:29
Twine on for Anderson.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:33:30
Stags 1 - 0 Valiants


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:34:54
This ref us a fucking joke.

He is, but we still don’t look much like scoring.

Maybe it’s just me but Richards hasn’t looked 1/2 as good since Norris got injured


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:35:07
twine to shine
posting in rhyme
oh good lord
I'm really bored
The ref is shocking
while we are dropping
Grimsby cheat
while we beat a retreat


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:38:23
Richards looked crap before Doris was injured.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:41:49
I think Richards has not loked himself since Flipflop left.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:44:24
6,690 there today.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:46:12
Grimsby are going to do the double over us.

Jesus wept what a season!


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:46:16
McDermotts hits high and wide from about 15 yards out after a good set up from Twine.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:46:31
We don’t seem to offer anything anywhere on the pitch. We can debate about the merits of various sides over the years, but this must be the worst group of individuals we’ve ever had.

If any more than 3 or 4 of them are involved next season we can write that one off, too.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:46:42
Grimsby are going to do the double over us.

Jesus wept what a season!
It has been pretty fucking terrible with only a handful of highlights.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:46:44
this has been shit. typical end of season, nothing to play for affair I suppose


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:47:57
Brown out
Wenger in


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:48:41
There's always pride .... isn't there?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:48:59
Brown out
Wenger in
There’s plenty of brown on the pitch


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:49:48
Poor match between 2 poor teams with an even poorer ref.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:51:35
Stags 1 - 1 Valiants haahaaha, I'm just enjoying seeing DF fuck up Mansfields season   :soapy tit wank: :pint: :smugfu:


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:52:15
Grimsby are going to do the double over us.

Jesus wept what a season!
And according to Reg it's not been a shit one! 😉

I beg to differ....



Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:55:05
We’ve been turned over so many times by some real turd this season - what does that make us?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:56:22
game over 0-1.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:56:34
We don’t seem to offer anything anywhere on the pitch. We can debate about the merits of various sides over the years, but this must be the worst group of individuals we’ve ever had.

If any more than 3 or 4 of them are involved next season we can write that one off, too.

I think that's accurate... we're a nothing team. No creativity and flair, but also no bite and fight. Non-threatening forwards, incompetent defenders, hapless keepers, uninspiring midfielders. All thrown on a pitch without a coherent plan.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:58:13
Well that was a crock.

Reg - how on earth you can't agree that this has been a shit season is beyond me.  No more than about 2 or 3 games worthy of a second watch in an entire season.  There is no doubt it could have been a complete fucking disgrace without the corrective action taken in the summer, but that does not stop that from being utter fucking shit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:58:34
Lincoln 2 - 1 Col U FT

Making a 3pts gap between themselves and DF's Stags


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 15:58:46
Brown out
Wenger in
Many a true word said in jest! Whilst we'd never get Wenger, without someone special coming in and LP going out (as he seems to have burnt his bridges with top teams for quality loans).The club is in terminal decline, our form during the run in is the worst in div 2. If we start next season with the same players and set up we're focked.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:06:47
Power simply has to go

If not after next year I fear we will be in the conference


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:12:24
We could always be Torquay...relegated to the National League South today  :(


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:15:38
Power simply has to go

If not after next year I fear we will be in the conference
His Flitcroft appointment turned out to be a poor one - I think we all know he was about 4th choice. But he did what we all wanted - an experienced lower league manager with, as far as we know, control of how his budget was spent.

The only positives for me has been Knoyle and the blooding of Twine and Romanski. Whether those 2 will turn out to be regular first XI players, time will tell.

Hopefully, this season has shown Power how not to go about appointing a manager.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:17:47
I find myself taking a pew and putting my feet up in the Brown out camp.

Let's get a new face in next season. Let's freshen things up a bit with a young, upcoming manager or retiring player/manager.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:23:50
I find myself taking a pew and putting my feet up in the Brown out camp.

Let's get a new face in next season. Let's freshen things up a bit with a young, upcoming manager or retiring player/manager.
Probably favouring that me sep


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:24:02
Should have been a dull 0-0.

Grimsby probably couldn’t believe how comfortable they had it in that second 45.

Meh. Meh. Meh. Meh. Meh. Meh.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:31:51
His Flitcroft appointment turned out to be a poor one - I think we all know he was about 4th choice. But he did what we all wanted - an experienced lower league manager with, as far as we know, control of how his budget was spent.

The only positives for me has been Knoyle and the blooding of Twine and Romanski. Whether those 2 will turn out to be regular first XI players, time will tell.

Hopefully, this season has shown Power how not to go about appointing a manager.

That’s the problem- he never learns by his mistakes at all. Every year is a total rebuild and his managerial appointments have been woeful.

Be better to have a fan run club than Power in charge- massive potential that under his rule will never be realised


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: hefty toe on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:32:50
How did Romanski get on?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:37:28
How did Romanski get on?

After 10 minutes it was boy against men where he really struggled to win much. But as the game went on he began to look more and more comfortable. Looked OK/good on the ball, didn't hide from getting it. But Grimsby didn't test him much so hard to tell.

Not a bad debut at all, needs a few more games to asses whether he's ready for first team squad football.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:42:43
Well, where do we begin. Lackluster, no tempo and no real attacking threat. A typical end of season game, but that would be an excuse because it has been like that before now.

This squad has become even less effective under Brown than Flitcroft, arguably. You get the impression that we are trying to control games more. But we look less likely to score/win.

Now its fair enough to say Brown can't play the Brown way with what he's got. So I don't think you can directly link next seasons prospects under Brown (if he stays), but equally I was expecting much much more from him.

Thank god there is only one more game to sit through this season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:50:02
This season has been dismal. I think the best I saw us play this season was at Dartford!!

Say what you want about Flitcroft, when he left for Mansfield we were in the play-offs. The football was not pretty to watch but somehow he got us in a promotion opportunity and the second round of the FA Cup for the first time in ages (although the Stevenage game was embarrassing)

Bringing Brown is seemed like the best idea. An experienced manager to steer us into the play offs but I think he has tried to do and change too much in not enough time. Points win prizes and Brown I think needs to move on and a fresh manager brought in very soon - ideally before the end of the season.

Player wise, I’m only really bothered about keeping Vigs, Conroy, Preston, Taylor, Richards, Mullins and possibly Woolery. Romanski, Young, Twine, Iandolo and Tom Smith I guess the future of the team.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 16:54:09
Player wise, I’m only really bothered about keeping Vigs, Conroy, Preston, Taylor, Richards, Mullins and possibly Woolery. Romanski, Young, Twine, Iandolo and Tom Smith I guess the future of the team.

yup


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:03:00
Have there been any post match interviews?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:10:14
yes.

not much said. Questioned certain players commitment, moaned about the ref, didn't do enough... normal stuff.

Got the impression he wants the job from the way he talked


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:12:53
Just gathering my thoughts!!  Woeful just about describes it, no skill on view at all, no pace, no attempt to do anything other than hoof a ball into the opponents half, with two very ineffective strikers   running around, like the rest of the team, as if they were headless chickens.  When we did break it was slow that Grimsby had enough time to get 10 men behind the ball - bit like watching last year's team but with less skill!  There was no teamwork or desire to play as a team.  Oh and a keeper who stays rooted to the line, afraid to come for the ball, they piled people forward for set plays when they realised how shit he was.

Never a penalty and as our guy was last man he should have been sent off, but not even a yellow card!  I just wonder whether this bunch of guys want to play for the manager, it didn't look like it!  Had to smile at Hussey being booed when man of the match was announced.

I did as I normally do exit the DRS and make my way to go out via the Town End.  There I witnessed an appalling incident!!  I have no idea what had gone one but two stewards were escorting a young fan out of the ground.  One glance and it was obvious that this lad has some sort of problem but one steward had an arm twisted up behind his back whilst the other had him bent over in a headlock.  They dumped him outside the ground and walked away pleased with themselves.  A few fans tried to help him and console him.  I shall be writing to Mr Invisible, aka Steve Anderson to complain about one steward and how he handled the guy.  Easy enough to spot him, big guy, bald and with a thick bushy beard.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:13:21
yes.

not much said. Questioned certain players commitment, moaned about the ref, didn't do enough... normal stuff.

Got the impression he wants the job from the way he talked

Cheers. Not sure what to make of him wanting the job really. Clearly he’ll want a total clear out and his own players but this trial has been a disaster and the end of the season has seen us fall out of any promotion chances with a bit of a whimper.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:14:28
yes.

not much said. Questioned certain players commitment, moaned about the ref, didn't do enough... normal stuff.

Got the impression he wants the job from the way he talked
Should we/Power want him though?
Got to be the worst run point wise we’ve been on this season (I’m sure will be corrected)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:15:49
P.S
We was left with some shit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:16:49
I'd give the job to Brown for next season. If he wants it. He can start building a squad now seeing as our season has ended.

Let's not forget, Luton with all their history have only just got back into L1 (3rd tier) after 10 years. We don't hav any given right to just be in the league above. We simply need to be good enough. Can Brown deliver that? With a fresh set of players that he thinks will work and retaining a few others. I would be more confident that he can do that. Let's face it, the season has limped away, it was limping away when DF was still here. I don't hold Brown to any of the seasons final outcome. The amount of shit he's had to work with for the last few games. Maybe some of these players just didn't quite have the fight and desire. More likely just not quite good enough. It's been  lottery league, we could've won another 10 games. We could have lost another 10.

Bring on next season, we're going up as champions. Full on Brown embarrassingly singing 'My Way' in the CG centre circle.   :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:19:58
Quote from: Quagmire
Should we/Power want him though?
Got to be the worst run point wise we’ve been on this season (I’m sure will be corrected)

I have no idea. So many variables, power and his chequebook being the biggest.

I've not been impressed by the end of the season, but it was going downhill under Flitcroft so maybe nobody would have got us in the playoffs.

I expected more though.

Take today, I thought Grimsby looked better organised than we did.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:25:26
And according to Reg it's not been a shit one! 😉

I beg to differ....



Because something is bog average doesn't make it shit... consider a couple of things that involve Grimsby.  Earlier in the season we lost there and then at home to Newport.... Grimsby were then 3 points off us, just outside the PO's. Since then a terrible run, seriously threatening their league status, only recently recovered.  They're still not out of it.  I would say that qualifies their season as being shit, we managed to avoid that. Had we gone on a similar run to the Mariners, the yes, shit.

Similarly the only time Grimsby have doubled us was 99/00 a season when we went bottom early doors and stayed there, ending with a GD of -39.  Any player worth a bean was sold and Jimmy Quinnn at 40 had to play.  The groundsman's mower was sold.  That was a shit season.

I guess the fact that Grimsby bought a few today helped push te gate up over 6000, meaning not the lowest at the CG v Grimsby, and quite ironic that, wheeling out the old boys, today's crowd bigger then when we played them in 92/93.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:34:00
Whether a season is shit or not is all relative to the expectations you had at the start.

For someone expecting a mid table finish it’s looking like a bang average season. To those who were expecting a play off push, it’s been shit...

Now, how realistic each persons expectations are/were is of course up for debate but not whether an individual thinks a season has been shit or not...


Me, personally, expected better but we are a nothing club with no ambition too to bottom which a fan base who have for the most part accepted the ‘just happy to have a club’ mantra.
Until the whole ethos of the club changes (and it won’t) we are here to make up the numbers and expect mid table nothing seasons like this one to become the norm.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:37:20
I have no idea. So many variables, power and his chequebook being the biggest.

I've not been impressed by the end of the season, but it was going downhill under Flitcroft so maybe nobody would have got us in the playoffs.

I expected more though.

Take today, I thought Grimsby looked better organised than we did.

I doubt PB, could do anything with a Power size budget... it takes a certain type of operator.

You only have to see Sarfend's spend on agents.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:38:09
Because something is bog average doesn't make it shit...
Yes it does. If you think something is shit, then it is. I think this season has been utter shit, therefore it has been.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:40:01
I hear what you are saying DV but I think getting up into a playoff spot raised expectations.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:45:29
Whether a season is shit or not is all relative to the expectations you had at the start.

For someone expecting a mid table finish it’s looking like a bang average season. To those who were expecting a play off push, it’s been shit...

Now, how realistic each persons expectations are/were is of course up for debate but not whether an individual thinks a season has been shit or not...


Me, personally, expected better but we are a nothing club with no ambition too to bottom which a fan base who have for the most part accepted the ‘just happy to have a club’ mantra.
Until the whole ethos of the club changes (and it won’t) we are here to make up the numbers and expect mid table nothing seasons like this one to become the norm.

But if you expected PO's, we've been there or thereabouts most of the season. In football there are no guarantees, and we've come up a bit short. In an average season, it's what happens, you get some good wins and some bad loses.

There's nothing wrong with just being happy to have a club.... for those that still go, you'd be a bit bonkers to think anything else.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:49:46
Whichever way you look at it, recruitment has been the problem.

I think it’s strange that certain players commitment has been questioned and, guessing, these players are the older, experienced lower league journeymen Flitcroft brought in. Now, you can question the skill level of these players, but commitment should be the one thing we were certain to get - unfortunately not.

Something stinks, generally, with this squad - bad apples? The young players, Woolery and Anderson, don’t seem to have much about them.

Maybe Flitcroft’s management style of bullying, scapegoating and marginalising has led to this. He had previous at Bury for the same approach. Vigs certainly seems to have borne the brunt of it.

Whatever, yet another big rebuild is needed.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:52:02
Totally unacceptable end to the season. The rest of it was pretty unacceptable too, saying that. Awful football, awful players and awful managers.  Brown is not the man to take Town forward. Power needs to appoint a recently-retired player or an up-and-coming manager and back him in the transfer market.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 17:59:40
Whichever way you look at it, recruitment has been the problem.

I think it’s strange that certain players commitment has been questioned and, guessing, these players are the older, experienced lower league journeymen Flitcroft brought in. Now, you can question the skill level of these players, but commitment should be the one thing we were certain to get - unfortunately not.

Something stinks, generally, with this squad - bad apples? The young players, Woolery and Anderson, don’t seem to have much about them.

Maybe Flitcroft’s management style of bullying, scapegoating and marginalising has led to this. He had previous at Bury for the same approach. Vigs certainly seems to have borne the brunt of it.

Whatever, yet another big rebuild is needed.

Clearly recruitment hasn't been a problem... we recruited a type of player suitable for Div 4, and that's broadly what we've got, most of them have a some point looked good enough for Div 4.   Recruitment was a problem last couple of seasons where players were acquired who weren't suitable for Div 3.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:11:38
it has.

we recruited a load of castoffs. And now we know why they were cast off.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:13:52
Div 4 players won’t get you out of Div 4 by definition. Even at our level you expect some level of competence - clearly lacking in the journeymen brought in by Flitcroft.

We got 2 half decent midfielders in on loan who look like they’ve downed tools and we’re back to playing Dunne and Linganzi who will create the square root of jack shit.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:21:29
But if you expected PO's, we've been there or thereabouts most of the season. In football there are no guarantees, and we've come up a bit short. In an average season, it's what happens, you get some good wins and some bad loses.

There's nothing wrong with just being happy to have a club.... for those that still go, you'd be a bit bonkers to think anything else.

If you expected the play offs and we don’t make the play offs (...and we won’t) then by definition it’s a shit season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:32:20
Div 4 players won’t get you out of Div 4 by definition. Even at our level you expect some level of competence - clearly lacking in the journeymen brought in by Flitcroft.

We got 2 half decent midfielders in on loan who look like they’ve downed tools and we’re back to playing Dunne and Linganzi who will create the square root of jack shit.

More or less all the sides in Div 4 have journeymen types.... therefore it is possible to get out of the league with this type of player performing well, over the course of a season.

To get quality in Div 4 is rare... look at this side PFA Div 4 pick from last season.

Goalkeeper: David Forde (Portsmouth)

Right-back: Kelvin Mellor (Blackpool)

Centre-back: Christian Burgess (Portsmouth)

Centre-back: Sonny Bradley (Plymouth Argyle)

Left-back: Enda Stevens (Portsmouth)

Midfield: Brad Potts (Blackpool)

Midfield: James Coppinger (Doncaster Rovers)

Midfield: Graham Carey (Plymouth Argyle)

Forward: John Marquis (Doncaster Rovers)

Forward: Matthew Godden (Stevenage)

Forward: Ollie Watkins (Exeter City)

Manager: Darren Ferguson (Doncaster Rovers)

How many of them have been tearing up trees in Div 3  or even like Godden Div 4  :hmmm:

Prob the only one whose shown quality is Ollie Watkins, but Brentford had to spend near on 2 mill for that.




Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:36:25
If you expected the play offs and we don’t make the play offs (...and we won’t) then by definition it’s a shit season.

Only if your expectations were way too high and have drama queen tendencies


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:02:09
Only if your expectations were way too high and have drama queen tendencies

No.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:05:14
I expected us to go out of the league(genuinely) but as someone said, getting into the top 6 raised those expectations mid season.
As for Brown/Flitcroft I know our run since the changeover has been the worst of the season but(I may be wrong as I've not checked)  I think Flitcrofts points tally since his departure is almost identical to Browns and Flitcroft has obviously a better bunch of players to work with.
So really overall in my opinion the season was not shit to start with but was shit to end with i.e average


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:05:42
Quote from: Batch link=topic=57381.msg1456069#msg1456069 date=15243
Take today, I thought Grimsby looked better organised than we did.
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To be fair I think most teams have looked better organised than us!!  A sad indictment on two experienced managers.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:18:21
I think a sign of how far we've fallen is that there is no outrage over a performance like that. Grimsby were probably the worst team down here this season. We were total tripe and in the second half played like it was a pre season friendly. We have absolutely zero invention. If a team can keep their shape all we've got is set pieces.
How Chris Hussey got mom is beyond me. He was shite and his crossing even worse. Linganzi was mom for me - mostly for his first half performance.
Romanski looked ok. For the last 2 games we've got to put the youngsters in. Don't play the loan players and drop useless lazy fuckers like Anderson.
We really are fucking crap.
I think Power has seriously got to look at next season otherwise I can see us playing to some very small crowds. Two years of absolute total fucking toss.
The fact that a few of us are just glad we didn't get relegated again is another sign of just how far we've fallen.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:19:22
Oh and fair play to the Grimsby fans. Given their away record that was good support from them - 600?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:30:57
How Chris Hussey got mom is beyond me.

Decided by match day sponsors. When a mate took along a party of bankers a few seasons back, he told me who it would be before the match. These were fellas there for the beer, with no idea of player's names and no great interest in the game.



Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:48:24
Because something is bog average doesn't make it shit... consider a couple of things that involve Grimsby.  Earlier in the season we lost there and then at home to Newport.... Grimsby were then 3 points off us, just outside the PO's. Since then a terrible run, seriously threatening their league status, only recently recovered.  They're still not out of it.  I would say that qualifies their season as being shit, we managed to avoid that. Had we gone on a similar run to the Mariners, the yes, shit.

Similarly the only time Grimsby have doubled us was 99/00 a season when we went bottom early doors and stayed there, ending with a GD of -39.  Any player worth a bean was sold and Jimmy Quinnn at 40 had to play.  The groundsman's mower was sold.  That was a shit season.

I guess the fact that Grimsby bought a few today helped push te gate up over 6000, meaning not the lowest at the CG v Grimsby, and quite ironic that, wheeling out the old boys, today's crowd bigger then when we played them in 92/93.

We were quite good but not good enough, this recent run of shit results have found us out.

We avoided the drop, that and Taylor's goal at Wycombe the only highlights.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 20:40:42
We were quite good but not good enough, this recent run of shit results have found us out.

We avoided the drop, that and Taylor's goal at Wycombe the only highlights.

The away form from the start of the season, a bit of a highlight there aren't too many more seasons where we've won more, further I think there's only been one game Notts C, where we haven't scored at least one, to get Wobbly Bob, wobbling away.  The home form a different kettle of fish, but Flitters had managed 5 wins in a row before jumping, from the start of 2018 to suggest an upturn, the comeback v Crewe was fun.

Beating FGR twice was something, I'd imagine they'll be spending in the summer, unless Vince has got bored, so may have to accept it might not happen again.

Taylor's all round perfromance has also been enjoyable, many wrote him off straight away, but not only does he still have the quality his attitude and professionalism are first class, just the sort of thing you want to set a standard for the younger lads.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 20:56:38
and one other thing, their cunt who scored the penalty deserved a fucking kicking. There was no need for his reaction when scoring. If ever there was a case for a player getting a slap, this was it. 


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 21:26:52
and one other thing, their cunt who scored the penalty deserved a fucking kicking. There was no need for his reaction when scoring. If ever there was a case for a player getting a slap, this was it. 
just seen that on football on 5, should have also been booked, after his kicking :nod:


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 22:00:15
just seen that on football on 5, should have also been booked, after his kicking :nod:

He was booked
Sadly didn't get a kicking


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 08:27:22
I think a sign of how far we've fallen is that there is no outrage over a performance like that. Grimsby were probably the worst team down here this season. We were total tripe and in the second half played like it was a pre season friendly. We have absolutely zero invention. If a team can keep their shape all we've got is set pieces.
How Chris Hussey got mom is beyond me. He was shite and his crossing even worse. Linganzi was mom for me - mostly for his first half performance.
Romanski looked ok. For the last 2 games we've got to put the youngsters in. Don't play the loan players and drop useless lazy fuckers like Anderson.
We really are fucking crap.
I think Power has seriously got to look at next season otherwise I can see us playing to some very small crowds. Two years of absolute total fucking toss.
The fact that a few of us are just glad we didn't get relegated again is another sign of just how far we've fallen.
Not sure Grimsby were THE worst side at the CG this season but they were bottom 4 or 5 for me, they were rubbish and created nothing and never threatened our makeshift defence really.

Hussey was awful, his crossing was some of the worst I have ever seen, defensively he was better but attacking was terrible.

Romanski didn't have much to do but grew into the game and looked fine, no worse that Robertson when hes at his best.

Anderson runs and dribbles well but falls when there is a slight puff of wind and his final ball is 99% of the time rubbish, like his new haircut.

A few big weeks coming up for the club, its up to Power to either appoint PB or tell him hes not wanted, I like PB and think he will turn us around with his own players but if he leaves I am not overly bothered either, but whichever way we turn we need a new man in before the end of May so he can get the squad sorted out well before pre season starts.

And finally.....

A couple of quotes from the Grims forum

Quote
2 best performances of the season have been against Swindon.

Great effort from the players and a really well organised away performance.

Watched the penalty again and I am not convinced that it was a foul. Appeared Cardwell tripped over his own legs BUT it is about time we got a stroke of fortune.

All Swindon I spoke to said we Deserved it

If that was one of their best performances I thought WE had it bad!

Definately never a penalty the man cheated a goal, if they scored a legal goal then I would not have a problem with them winning even though I don't think they deserved it at all, they were if anything worse than we were.

That was up there with the poorest performances team wise all season.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 08:42:18
Not sure Grimsby were THE worst side at the CG this season but they were bottom 4 or 5 for me, they were rubbish and created nothing and never threatened our makeshift defence really.

Hussey was awful, his crossing was some of the worst I have ever seen, defensively he was better but attacking was terrible.

Romanski didn't have much to do but grew into the game and looked fine, no worse that Robertson when hes at his best.

Anderson runs and dribbles well but falls when there is a slight puff of wind and his final ball is 99% of the time rubbish, like his new haircut.

A few big weeks coming up for the club, its up to Power to either appoint PB or tell him hes not wanted, I like PB and think he will turn us around with his own players but if he leaves I am not overly bothered either, but whichever way we turn we need a new man in before the end of May so he can get the squad sorted out well before pre season starts.

Whilst your correct with your assement of how we should progress with our management, its very unlikely,   
because the new manager and signings would have to be paid during the close season. We're more likely to see the cash saving, a week before the season starts appointment, with a few more feebies and a couple of past their sellby date old cloggers. PB is a good manager and even he can polish the turd that is our current team, which has some of the worst form in DIV2. You have to give it to LP he knows how to put out a team that is downwardly mobile year on year.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 08:44:15
Whilst your correct with your assement of how we should progress with our management, its very unlikely,  
because the new manager and signings would have to be paid during the close season. We're more likely to see the cash saving, a week before the season starts appointment, with a few more feebies and a couple of past their sellby date old cloggers. PB is a good manager and even he can polish the turd that is our current team, which has some of the worst form in DIV2. You have to give it to LP he knows how to put out a team that is downwardly mobile year on year.

Oh I can see what you are saying and that LP will do his utmost to save the salary of a manager and his assistant if he can, I am hoping LP can see that a new manager is needed ASAP.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:03:04
Oh I can see what you are saying and that LP will do his utmost to save the salary of a manager and his assistant if he can, I am hoping LP can see that a new manager is needed ASAP.

The recruitment needs to be underway now. In as much as the next incumbent ought to have a march on who he wants to keep, who can go and who he needs to get in. Now realistically only PB is in that position from a managerial point of view. Anyone else in contention from within the club should it not be PB will be behind the loop. Externally, well way off the mark until they are appointed.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 10:21:21
The recruitment needs to be underway now. In as much as the next encumbrance ought to have a march on who he wants to keep, who can go and who he needs to get in. Now realistically only PB is in that position from a managerial point of view. Anyone else in contention from with the club should it not be PB will be behind the loop. Externally well way off the mark until they are appointed.
We are chewing up managers at quite a rate without any sign of stopping the rot. Yes LP should have his list of names and as soon as the seasons over the new boss should be appointed, with immediate recruitment of the playing staff. Its just not going to happen with LP incharge. Lets all wake up and smell the coffee, LP's record of STFC is one of cheap fix and decline. He's taking us the same way as he did Cambridge, this is a poor division in which we've struggled to show any kind of form. without that run of six or seven wins we'd be nearer the foot of this league and at this rate we'll be mid table come the end of the season. Finally  if your a good div2 player or from divisions above looking for a loan would you sign for the town?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 10:28:15
Finally  if your a good div2 player

It's L2, (League 2) or in old money Div 4.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 10:57:15
Sat in the pub after the game, me being the only one out of the thirty or so people who had attended that shambles, and it struck me that I now have very little affinity to the players compared to only a few years ago.

Yes, I encourage/moan/groan in equal measure because it is my team, but if the whole senior squad were to go at the season's end would I be that worried? the answer is no. Whoever the next manager is will need far more than ending up with journeymen pro's who do just enough but no more so to stay in the profession.

To my way of thinking he will definitely need a requirement to attract players with more ability/determination/will to win than trying to change the mindset of the ones already here. Like to be proved wrong but cannot see it at the moment.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 11:22:50
Sat in the pub after the game, me being the only one out of the thirty or so people who had attended that shambles, and it struck me that I now have very little affinity to the players compared to only a few years ago.

Yes, I encourage/moan/groan in equal measure because it is my team, but if the whole senior squad were to go at the season's end would I be that worried? the answer is no. Whoever the next manager is will need far more than ending up with journeymen pro's who do just enough but no more so to stay in the profession.

To my way of thinking he will definitely need a requirement to attract players with more ability/determination/will to win than trying to change the mindset of the ones already here. Like to be proved wrong but cannot see it at the moment.

Last season: we need experience. Kids won’t win anything.
This season: we need youth and determination. Journeymen don’t want it enough.
Reality: you can be a shit youngster, or a shit journeyman, or a shit manager. There’s also good journeymen, good kids and good managers. We just need more of the latter.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 11:44:53
Surely most people think this year it's a lack of quality in key areas that's cost us?

I've not seen many question commitment, well Brown yesterday I suppose, but other than that.

They look like they give a fuck, which is why I've enjoyed this year more than last. Highly frustrated we aren't good enough, but satisfied with the effort.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 11:54:19
Do you think we will get a Hodgetts\Power love-in on the radio at the end of the season?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 12:08:05
Do you think we will get a Hodgetts\Power love-in on the radio at the end of the season?

The way the club have been recently it'll be Joe Romanski standing-in for Power.

 :toocool:

I'll save you all 50 minutes of Power Hour.

Power to say the same stuff about saving the club
It hurts him
Flitcroft disappointed Power
He's a football and/or business man
Training ground is ongoing
Can't talk about the purchase of the County Ground
Something Australian is discussed
PASHUN
One caller will complain about the pies
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
One caller will want Sol Campbell or Craig Bellamy
Another will want Glenn Hoddle
Another will want to sign Timi Elsnik
One caller takes on Power
This caller somehow shocks Power as this opinion doesn't reflect the masses
Hodgett's reads a jovial text to lighten the mood
Man from Marlborough thanks 'Mr. Power' for his continued effort
Phone-in ends
Suddenly you're listening to the first few seconds of 'China in Your Hand' by T'Pau


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 12:16:33
Do you think we will get a Hodgetts\Power love-in on the radio at the end of the season?

Willing to bet he is on holiday for the last game!


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 14:55:09
The way the club have been recently it'll be Joe Romanski standing-in for Power.

 :toocool:

I'll save you all 50 minutes of Power Hour.

Power to say the same stuff about saving the club
It hurts him
Flitcroft disappointed Power
He's a football and/or business man
Training ground is ongoing
Can't talk about the purchase of the County Ground
Something Australian is dicussed
PASHUN
One caller will complain about the pies
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
One caller will want Sol Campbell or Craig Bellamy
Another will want Glenn Hoddle
Another will want to sign Timi Elsnik
One caller takes on Power
This caller somehow shocks Power as this opinion doesn't reflect the masses
Hodgett's reads a jovial text to lighten the mood
Man of Malborough thanks 'Mr. Power' for his continued effort
Phone-in ends
Suddenly you're listening to the first few seconds of 'China in Your Hand' by T'Pau
Very true and pmsl!!!


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 15:16:39
thanks Costanza, you've given me an hour of my life back.

I'm going to use it wisely, maybe rearrange my CDs in alphabetical order


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: woolster on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 15:34:46
thanks Costanza, you've given me an hour of my life back.

I'm going to use it wisely, maybe rearrange my CDs in alphabetical order
or maybe spend that hour giving  that films remake thing with twat Lemon and paddy program a go  again :wink: :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 19:48:29
The way the club have been recently it'll be Joe Romanski standing-in for Power.

 :toocool:

I'll save you all 50 minutes of Power Hour.

Power to say the same stuff about saving the club
It hurts him
Flitcroft disappointed Power
He's a football and/or business man
Training ground is ongoing
Can't talk about the purchase of the County Ground
Something Australian is discussed
PASHUN
One caller will complain about the pies
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
One caller will want Sol Campbell or Craig Bellamy
Another will want Glenn Hoddle
Another will want to sign Timi Elsnik
One caller takes on Power
This caller somehow shocks Power as this opinion doesn't reflect the masses
Hodgett's reads a jovial text to lighten the mood
Man from Marlborough thanks 'Mr. Power' for his continued effort
Phone-in ends
Suddenly you're listening to the first few seconds of 'China in Your Hand' by T'Pau

You missed 90 minutes from championship!


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 22:01:15
Haven’t read back through the thread, but has anyone mentioned the irony that the crowd yesterday was bigger than the crowd we had against Grimsby in our promotion season to the Premier league.

I guess that was Power’s fault too ;)


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: johnritsons toupe on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 23:17:52
The way the club have been recently it'll be Joe Romanski standing-in for Power.

 :toocool:

I'll save you all 50 minutes of Power Hour.

Power to say the same stuff about saving the club
It hurts him
Flitcroft disappointed Power
He's a football and/or business man
Training ground is ongoing
Can't talk about the purchase of the County Ground
Something Australian is discussed
PASHUN
One caller will complain about the pies
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
One caller will want Sol Campbell or Craig Bellamy
Another will want Glenn Hoddle
Another will want to sign Timi Elsnik
One caller takes on Power
This caller somehow shocks Power as this opinion doesn't reflect the masses
Hodgett's reads a jovial text to lighten the mood
Man from Marlborough thanks 'Mr. Power' for his continued effort
Phone-in ends
Suddenly you're listening to the first few seconds of 'China in Your Hand' by T'Pau

I haven't looked in on you guys for a while, but I'm glad I did tonight. That's a brilliant post, Constanza. Absolute classic.

Powers time in SN1 is up I'm afraid.

His experiment with polishing up promising players from Premier clubs failed dismally despite looking quite promising at the start. His failure to recognise (or react to) his fundamental mistake in appointing (on a fucking 5-year contract with a ringing endorsement about him being the best coach he's ever worked with) and then sticking with Williams, put paid to it as we were relegated in some style.

I kind of admire him for shutting the fuck up (mostly) this season after appointing Titcroft, but despite a fairly promising start, that appointment ultimately failed. More worryingly for us, there doesn't appear to have been much of a personal relationship between manager and Chairman, which is presumably why Titcroft upped sticks as soon as he had another opportunity.

Brown was another roll of the dice which may have worked, but it didn't. If he now appoints Brown full time ( we could do a lot worse to be honest), he's taking a massive gamble because the current squad reacted to his arrival in much the same way that they reacted to Matt Taylor getting the nod early on; complete indifference. Many of them will be here next season and will form the backbone of the squad, so any new players coming in will have to be the ones to make a massive difference, which is a big ask in a relatively small squad.

Also, Power has been flushed out by the trust this season and it's now obvious to everyone that he's here for the money that's involved in a stadium redevelopment, as well as what must now be a diminishing / tiny profit by 'running the business within its means'.

Next season he'll probably be chucking a couple of hundred thousand in due to plummeting season ticket sales (I hear the renewal numbers are terrifying the staff, let alone Power) which won't sit comfortably.

Many supporters have been OK with him previously admitting to being here to make money. That sticks in my throat personally, but everyone is entitled to be a fucking idiot  :D

However, and this is important, if our results had been as awful in the first half of the season as they've been in the 2nd half, we'd be right down there fighting with the likes of Chesterfield by now. If that's not enough to scare the shit out of even the most stubborn of Power sympathisers, I'm not sure what else will do the job.

How ironic was it that the lads of 25 years ago who were rightly so well applauded prior to KO yesterday, had to sit and watch that pile of gutless shite yesterday.

I'd love to know what they really thought about the performance of the team as a whole, and about the individuals as well.

I'm guessing that a few heads were shaking and a few more were laughing their cocks off!

The games up Power.

Fuck off.




Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 08:58:20
 Power will probably stall to see the outcome of the May locals, should SBC change hands to maybe no overall control but a Lib/ Lab pact, then can't see a ground sale to the Lee Power fronted developers.

 However, if the Tories continue, then he will need to have a league club in the ground for appearances sake, so I'd expect us to be put on life support. A Cheltnum sized budget should be enough to ensure a comfortable mid table placing.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:04:13
I haven't looked in on you guys for a while, but I'm glad I did tonight. That's a brilliant post, Constanza. Absolute classic.

Powers time in SN1 is up I'm afraid.

His experiment with polishing up promising players from Premier clubs failed dismally despite looking quite promising at the start. His failure to recognise (or react to) his fundamental mistake in appointing (on a fucking 5-year contract with a ringing endorsement about him being the best coach he's ever worked with) and then sticking with Williams, put paid to it as we were relegated in some style.

I kind of admire him for shutting the fuck up (mostly) this season after appointing Titcroft, but despite a fairly promising start, that appointment ultimately failed. More worryingly for us, there doesn't appear to have been much of a personal relationship between manager and Chairman, which is presumably why Titcroft upped sticks as soon as he had another opportunity.

Brown was another roll of the dice which may have worked, but it didn't. If he now appoints Brown full time ( we could do a lot worse to be honest), he's taking a massive gamble because the current squad reacted to his arrival in much the same way that they reacted to Matt Taylor getting the nod early on; complete indifference. Many of them will be here next season and will form the backbone of the squad, so any new players coming in will have to be the ones to make a massive difference, which is a big ask in a relatively small squad.

Also, Power has been flushed out by the trust this season and it's now obvious to everyone that he's here for the money that's involved in a stadium redevelopment, as well as what must now be a diminishing / tiny profit by 'running the business within its means'.

Next season he'll probably be chucking a couple of hundred thousand in due to plummeting season ticket sales (I hear the renewal numbers are terrifying the staff, let alone Power) which won't sit comfortably.

Many supporters have been OK with him previously admitting to being here to make money. That sticks in my throat personally, but everyone is entitled to be a fucking idiot  :D

However, and this is important, if our results had been as awful in the first half of the season as they've been in the 2nd half, we'd be right down there fighting with the likes of Chesterfield by now. If that's not enough to scare the shit out of even the most stubborn of Power sympathisers, I'm not sure what else will do the job.

How ironic was it that the lads of 25 years ago who were rightly so well applauded prior to KO yesterday, had to sit and watch that pile of gutless shite yesterday.

I'd love to know what they really thought about the performance of the team as a whole, and about the individuals as well.

I'm guessing that a few heads were shaking and a few more were laughing their cocks off!

The games up Power.

Fuck off.

All well and good and whilst it is impossible to argue against a lot of what you say, who is actually waiting in the wings to take the club on in the event that LP decides he has had enough?

The options would appear to be (a) an extremely wealthy fan, who hasn't surfaced before  (b)  the Trust, which the majority would be more comfortable with (c) foreign ownership - more examples of bad rather than good outcomes (d) a chancer like Jed and his cronies

Hopefully given the likely absence of acceptable alternatives, the Trust would be in a position to acquire and run the club in the event that LP decides to leave.









Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:35:35
The way the club have been recently it'll be Joe Romanski standing-in for Power.

 :toocool:

I'll save you all 50 minutes of Power Hour.

Power to say the same stuff about saving the club
It hurts him
Flitcroft disappointed Power
He's a football and/or business man
Training ground is ongoing
Can't talk about the purchase of the County Ground
Something Australian is discussed
PASHUN
One caller will complain about the pies
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson
One caller will want Sol Campbell or Craig Bellamy
Another will want Glenn Hoddle
Another will want to sign Timi Elsnik
One caller takes on Power
This caller somehow shocks Power as this opinion doesn't reflect the masses
Hodgett's reads a jovial text to lighten the mood
Man from Marlborough thanks 'Mr. Power' for his continued effort
Phone-in ends
Suddenly you're listening to the first few seconds of 'China in Your Hand' by T'Pau

You missed the bit before hand where loads of people moan like fuck on the internet for weeks then don't phone in when they have the change to air their grievances?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:41:22

Powers time in SN1 is up I'm afraid.

The games up Power.

Fuck off.


Possibly so, but in the absence of anyone to buy him out he ain't going nowhere and unless the fans wish to withdraw financial support and run the club into the ground and force him out, which would potentially have the unintended consequence of there being no club left to support I really do not see a real world solution.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:43:24
So this years faults is Power's? I would disagree. Power back Flitcroft. Flitcroft had a good reputation of getting teams out of this league. Flitcroft failed.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:43:42
there could be someone willing to buy us.
they could be worse. or better.

hard to tell when the club isn't up for sale (as far as we know).


Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:45:15
Quote
So this years faults is Power's? I would disagree. Power back Flitcroft. Flitcroft had a good reputation of getting teams out of this league. Flitcroft failed.
he left us in a playoff position, albeit on a downward spiral.

Flitcroft, brown and injuries saw us fail.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:52:49
This season in isolation is not Power's fault. There's not much else he could have reasonably done.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:03:08
You missed the bit before hand where loads of people moan like fuck on the internet for weeks then don't phone in when they have the change to air their grievances?

But you're missing the FACT that Hodgetts filters the calls so that no negative calls are allowed to get through. Ever. Except for those that are but asides from those that are allowed, none are allowed. At all.

I've never quite got the criticism of Hodgetts. A lot of people seem to be convinced Power is guilty of whatever it is they think he is guilty of, and then blame Hodgetts for not revealing it. Because, of course, there is definitely something to be revealed, because some people on the internet say so.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:04:39
assuming the budget was as stated, and the recruitment was down to Flitcroft then yeah.

And no I'm not going all CT, just struggling with the reality of what a competative division 4 budget buys you. Not much.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: sir windon on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:10:11
It will be very interesting to see if Brown gets the job. He has a rapport with the fans so would satisfy most. Post Grimsby he admitted to failing to impress his potential future employer in terms of results yet seemed to challenge Power to 'put his money where his mouth is'. The chairman has openly preached frugality and past overspending has almost led to oblivion. Where does ambition become unsustainable and ultimately unattainable? Where does caution become too limiting and self damaging?
It may be a game of 'psychological chicken' between Brown and Power in terms of demands and promises. i believe they'll go their separate ways amicably and we, the fans, will be left in a period of wilderness again.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:12:27
From what he said post Grimsby he wants the job - if he can get rid of 40% of the present squad who he said he couldn’t work with. Seems a bit low to me.

Whether Power would sanction another major rebuild remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:12:32
assuming the budget was as stated, and the recruitment was down to Flitcroft then yeah.

And no I'm not going all CT, just struggling with the reality of what a competative division 4 budget buys you. Not much.

If you think back to the close/pre season, and the talk of competitive budgies, and to keep CS happy rock bands, the consensus was pretty much ours would be less than the big hitters of Div 4.  After the numbers and speculation had been crunched, you predicted a respectable 9th place fiinish.... still all to play for on that.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:13:14
there could be someone willing to buy us.
they could be worse. or better.

hard to tell when the club isn't up for sale (as far as we know).

I see this on FB all the time and don't get it.  Clubs are rarely put up for sale, except in the odd case like Newcastle etc.  Clubs are always up for sale, it just needs the willingness of anyone to enquire and negotiate a price that they would be willing to pay.

The fact is, there is not a queue of people doing that, and Power will want an unreasonable amount to sell the club, we all know that (unless he has had enough which we don't know).

The numerous shouts for "Power out" are a conversational non-starter as unless there is somebody ready to come in an pay the asking price, it's never going to happen until a buyer comes out of the woodwork.  Power will not just walk away without a pay out that is for sure.

He will want ownership of the ground at least before he considers it.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:15:58
If you think back to the close/pre season, and the talk of competitive budgies, and to keep CS happy rock bands, the consensus was pretty much ours would be less than the big hitters of Div 4.  After the numbers and speculation had been crunched, you predicted a respectable 9th place fiinish.... still all to play for on that.

I would have taken 11 competitive budgies over the non-competitive dross we have witnessed this season..


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:18:14
It will be very interesting to see if Brown gets the job. He has a rapport with the fans so would satisfy most. Post Grimsby he admitted to failing to impress his potential future employer in terms of results yet seemed to challenge Power to 'put his money where his mouth is'. The chairman has openly preached frugality and past overspending has almost led to oblivion. Where does ambition become unsustainable and ultimately unattainable? Where does caution become too limiting and and self damaging?
It may be a game of 'psychological chicken' between Brown and Power in terms of demands and promises. i believe they'll go their separate ways amicably and we, the fans will be left in a period of wilderness again.

Pretty much spot on. 


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:40:21
I see this on FB all the time and don't get it.  Clubs are rarely put up for sale, except in the odd case like Newcastle etc.  Clubs are always up for sale, it just needs the willingness of anyone to enquire and negotiate a price that they would be willing to pay.

The fact is, there is not a queue of people doing that, and Power will want an unreasonable amount to sell the club, we all know that (unless he has had enough which we don't know).

The numerous shouts for "Power out" are a conversational non-starter as unless there is somebody ready to come in an pay the asking price, it's never going to happen until a buyer comes out of the woodwork.  Power will not just walk away without a pay out that is for sure.

He will want ownership of the ground at least before he considers it.
and I think that sums up the utter hopelesness a lot of Town fans feel. After 2 seasons of utter dross and no signs of anything getting better then why not do something else on a Saturday - some of the players have already.


Title: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:42:43
To that Bernie I'd say I'm not expecting a 'for sale' page in the Adver.

I'm just saying that if a) Power gives up or b) the club goes close to financially belly up that there may well be some suitors that we just wouldn't know about now.

I don't think anyone actually expects him to give up though do they?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:48:37
I see this on FB all the time and don't get it.  Clubs are rarely put up for sale, except in the odd case like Newcastle etc.  Clubs are always up for sale, it just needs the willingness of anyone to enquire and negotiate a price that they would be willing to pay.

The fact is, there is not a queue of people doing that, and Power will want an unreasonable amount to sell the club, we all know that (unless he has had enough which we don't know).

The numerous shouts for "Power out" are a conversational non-starter as unless there is somebody ready to come in an pay the asking price, it's never going to happen until a buyer comes out of the woodwork.  Power will not just walk away without a pay out that is for sure.

He will want ownership of the ground at least before he considers it.
Absolutely exactly as I see it Berni.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:14:10
If anyone is interested, here is the form table of the league since DF left.


                                      P   +/-   Pts
1   Accrington Stanley   10   +14   28
2   Coventry City           10   +5   20
3   Notts County           10   +6   18
4   Exeter City           10   +4   18
5   Lincoln City           10   +3   18
6   Crewe Alexandra   10   +4   17
7   Luton Town            10   +6   16
8   Wycombe Wanderers   10   0   16
9   Carlisle United           10   +3   15
10   Cambridge United   10   +2   15
11   Barnet                   10   -3   14
12   Forest Green Rovers   10   +1   13
13   Cheltenham Town   10   +4   12
14   Port Vale.               10   0   12
15   Newport County.     10   -1   11
16   Colchester United   10   -3   11
17   Stevenage.             10   -3   10
18   Morecambe           10   -4   9
19   Grimsby Town.        10   -8   9
20   Mansfield Town.     10   -4   8
21   Chesterfield           10   -6   8
22   Yeovil Town            10   -7   8
23   Swindon Town           10   -6   7
24   Crawley Town           10   -7   7


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:22:28
 Also about the same time as Matt Preston going lame, then compounded by Lancashire joining him.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:32:23
If anyone is interested, here is the form table of the league since DF left.
TBF 2 of those defeats were before PB took over though.

Flipflop  p10 w1 d5 l4 wr10.0%

P Brown  p8 w1 d4 l3 wr12.5%

I personally think if PB does indeed take over and is allowed to bring in his own men then we will do well next year.

Flipflop took over an "allegedly" better squad and has managed to totally fuck them up.

He left us we were in 6th place we are now 9th.

Mansfield were in 4th place they are now 8th.

I have no problem about him leaving just the timing screwed us over and in the process but luckily he fucked up Mansfields push too! result!


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:37:03
 PB's record is very similar to Paul Hart.  PB.  P8 W1 D4 L3.  Hart. P8 W1 D3 L4


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:38:20
I try and tell myself Paul Hart never happened Reg, so thanks for the reminder.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:38:53
Also about the same time as Matt Preston going lame, then compounded by Lancashire joining him.
Prestons last match was ironically vs Mansfield on 10th Feb, since he has been injured we have had a run of LWLLWLDDDDLL.

Prior to his injury our run of form was WWWLWWDLW.

I think losing Preston was the pivotal moment of the season.



Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:43:04
Prestons last match was ironically vs Mansfield on 10th Feb, since he has been injured we have had a run of LWLLWLDDDDLL.

Prior to his injury our run of form was WWWLWWDLW.

I think losing Preston was the pivotal moment of the season.

I'd agree with that... it's a shame Power didn't get him signed up for next season.

If the form table is replicated into next season, then we are in trouble.  It doesn't have to work that way, but some things will need to change, and as we have seen from Power's handiwork there are no guarantees.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:16:48
I think that Flitcroft fcuked things up in January by not getting in the correct signings, no cover at CB or CF was signed up.

The players we have were brought in to play a certain way, very direct I think Brown has realised that and has whereas some have managed to adapt to a different style a lot have struggled and I think Brown has maybe tried to change to much to soon and realised some of the players are just crap old warhorses (or cart horses).

If he is not given the job we start again with a new manager who does not know the players, and we have to wonder how long it will take to appoint a new man and his staff and then for him to decide who he wants to keep and let go and work out the players needed for L2.

We need to start early, get a plan and go with it, but I think as Brown has eluded to if promotion id the aim everyone needs to be on board, including the fans, this season has never really felt like a potential promotion season, it is up to the club from the top down to install that mentality within the club and for that to filter out to the players and fans.

Power has a huge decision to make and this needs dealing with, I'm sure if he does not give it to Brown now or talk to him and let him go on his hols, Brown will not sit by the phone waiting and will probably tell Power to F Off if he goes and sounds out other managers and then goes back to brown as they are not interested.




Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:26:56
I would have taken 11 competitive budgies over the non-competitive dross we have witnessed this season..
But would we have got them on the cheep?


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:30:33
I think that Flitcroft fcuked things up in January by not getting in the correct signings, no cover at CB or CF was signed up.

The players we have were brought in to play a certain way, very direct I think Brown has realised that and has whereas some have managed to adapt to a different style a lot have struggled and I think Brown has maybe tried to change to much to soon and realised some of the players are just crap old warhorses (or cart horses).

If he is not given the job we start again with a new manager who does not know the players, and we have to wonder how long it will take to appoint a new man and his staff and then for him to decide who he wants to keep and let go and work out the players needed for L2.

We need to start early, get a plan and go with it, but I think as Brown has eluded to if promotion id the aim everyone needs to be on board, including the fans, this season has never really felt like a potential promotion season, it is up to the club from the top down to install that mentality within the club and for that to filter out to the players and fans.

Power has a huge decision to make and this needs dealing with, I'm sure if he does not give it to Brown now or talk to him and let him go on his hols, Brown will not sit by the phone waiting and will probably tell Power to F Off if he goes and sounds out other managers and then goes back to brown as they are not interested.




Flitcroft signed Richards who I believe will finish the season as our second top goalscorer.

Banks looked a good signing, but has flattered to deceive a little, much like his reports from his parent club.

The issue with the January recruitment was more that it did not create the necessary options in positions, it did not create some round pegs to go in round holes.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:31:26
I think that Flitcroft fcuked things up in January by not getting in the correct signings, no cover at CB or CF was signed up.

We signed Menayese (31 Jan) and Richards (15 Jan). Lancashire and then Norris got injured. He also tried to address the midfield creativity issue with Banks. i thought January was a fairly good window.

I wouldn't have brought in a rookie with a couple of league games under his belt in defense, simply because I don't see Lancashire as being up to it. But I'm sure the main plan was for Mayo to be cover, not starter.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:40:18
Brown suggesting he wants the job tells me that there's already been a discussion regarding budget etc.


Title: Re: Swindon v Grimsby matchday thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 14:49:27
We signed Menayese (31 Jan) and Richards (15 Jan). Lancashire and then Norris got injured. He also tried to address the midfield creativity issue with Banks. i thought January was a fairly good window.

I wouldn't have brought in a rookie with a couple of league games under his belt in defense, simply because I don't see Lancashire as being up to it. But I'm sure the main plan was for Mayo to be cover, not starter.

Jan window was fine other than losing a couple of bodies in Brophy and Goddard, to faciliate those coming in.  Maybe PB could have got some use out of them, before getting rid in the summer.  However we have to stick to budget so can't have everything.