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Title: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 09:39:14
Coyr need the win today


Title: Newport County V Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 09:40:06
A must win today but can see this ending in another draw, which would surely put the final nail in the coffin, great day for it whether wise :pint:


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: cdakev on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 09:46:09
Win Win Win COYR


Title: Newport County AFC v Swindon Town - Official Match Day Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 09:48:04
Pre match sing song jibber jabber in The Queens Hotel.
Plastic glasses normally mean that Armageddon is expected.

Suitably gloomy & overcast here for our first league visit since 1986.
A 2-2 draw at the old Somerton Park, now a housing estate.
Steve Berry played for them that day as did Roy Carter.
It's refreshing to know that as we speak, people could be taking a dump at the scene of our demise into the 4th division.

Plenty of Down Jackets on display for a scrappy 1-0 win courtesy of a Scott Twine deflected effort.
Although young Scott will be left disappointed when Harry Kane claims the goal.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 09:58:20
Three threads but mine was first  :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 10:20:36
Three threads but mine was first  :)

Against a 100% record for away match day threads this season though.  :)


Title: Re: Newport County V Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 10:29:18
...or it might see us 1 point closer to the play offs!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 10:29:36
I can't compete with that, mods please close this thread  :D


Title: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 10:59:16
Must win. Come on Town


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 11:39:56
Must win, should win, could win, probably won't win.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 11:43:10
Newport preview here.

https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/2018/april/swindon-preview/


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 13:41:00
Pointless, this. Seasonís been over for a while.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 13:52:14
Pointless?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 13:53:43
Pointless, this. Seasonís been over for a while.

You are a cheerful soul, aren't you?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:01:18
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavryiUXUAEAN4W.png:large)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:02:12
Mayo for the injured Lancashire the only change in the starting line up.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:08:13
interesting mayo has come straight in and not mcgivern based on recent squads.

no problem with it, just surprising


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:12:16
interesting mayo has come straight in and not mcgivern based on recent squads.

no problem with it, just surprising
McGivern wasn't up to match speed when he came on last week and was beaten in the air for the late equalizer, not sure if Mayo has been injured/rested/dropped for the last few games as he didn't even make the bench.

He won't be up against Nouble today though as hes dropped to the bench.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:15:05
Good that Brown has given a Twine another chance to learn the ropes.

Letís hope he can get the Red Army coir singing.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:19:25
Good that Brown has given a Twine another chance to learn the ropes.
Yes definately I though he played really well and barely put a foot wrong last game.

The only thing I would criticise him for would be twice he hoofed a clearance accross the pitch into touch when there were better options available to him, that will improve with games under his belt though.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:36:38
Mansfield 1 up with 15 to go


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:41:52
Mansfield 1 up with 15 to go
Disappointing.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:50:00
Pointless, this. Seasonís been over for a while.

Processed Beats - more like Processed Meats or should I say StefTroll  :soapy tit wank: :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 14:51:29
Pitch looks in a poor state.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:00:45
Processed Beats - more like Processed Meats or should I say StefTroll  :soapy tit wank: :soapy tit wank:

soapy tit wank Iím not sad enough to set up 2 accounts. Admin should be able to verify via ip addresses.

Hoping for a win today (need one now it looks like Mansfield are going to win). Not holding much hope though. Still, come on you reds !


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:01:04
Pitch looks in a poor state.
Looks better than the CG from the away end!
I guess you have the advantage of an elevated view.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:03:59
FT: Chesterfield 0 - 1 Mansfield

DF first win in 5 or 6? However just a point would've had them in temporary 7th. I still think Lincoln could buggar too up and Stags would've been expected to beat Chesterfield who are probably accepting now that relegation is but a formality. A positive blip for the Stags, I expect them to go back to negative form again. Now this is an extra must win though. I haven't had my Town shirt on since Cambridge Utd match. It's back on today... let's do it lads. Come on!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:06:05
soapy tit wank Iím not sad enough to set up 2 accounts. Admin should be able to verify via ip addresses.

Hoping for a win today (need one now it looks like Mansfield are going to win). Not holding much hope though. Still, come on you reds !

Haha! I was being a cunt. It's at least the constant we all seem to have or be. Yep Come on Town!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:06:55
Cov 1 nil up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:07:04
Coventry winning


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:10:58
Notts County losing


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:11:05
ColU 1 nil up against Notts


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:11:48
Looks better than the CG from the away end!
I guess you have the advantage of an elevated view.

Yeah its around the middle of the pitch is terrible.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/r0ubfx5b3/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:13:03
Crawley 1-1 Cov


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:14:01
Crawley level


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:14:14
Newport hit the top of the bar from 20 yards.

Their first real chance.


Title: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:16:18
hahaha fuck off Swindon, Brown, division 4 and football 1-0


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:16:41
Poor game with little quality so far.

1-0


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:17:23
Carlisle 1 up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:17:31
Not great defending again.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:19:15
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Not great defending again.
I'm shocked


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:20:29
Got to go for it now. Plenty of time to bring it back.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:21:43
Currently experiencing the very worst service I've had from ifollow all season, at least I got to see the goal...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:22:25
Twine has been playing right wing and looking a bit lost so far.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:22:34
Stanley 0-1 Exeter


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:23:15
I'm shocked
He flicked it over Moore well though but it should have been cut out before it got in the box.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:24:32
Taylor now gone to RW and Twine LW.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:25:39
Will we ever win again?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:25:44
Currently experiencing the very worst service I've had from ifollow all season, at least I got to see the goal...
Thats a shame KT my coverage is the best I have had in weeks, very smooth.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:27:13
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/985160998414880768 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/985160998414880768)

Newport goal


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:28:39
Taylor going mad at Dunne for not being close enough to the loose ball.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:29:14
Too many players having off day at the moment for us.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:30:11
Newport looking the most likely to add to their lead.

We are creating very little.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:31:37
Morecambe 1-1 Carlisle


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:32:33
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/985160998414880768 (https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/985160998414880768)

Newport goal

To be fair thatís not the worst defending Iíve seen this season


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:32:47
Our passing today is very poor from everyone.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:34:50
To be fair thatís not the worst defending Iíve seen this season
Not the worst no but not good either, 3 players on the man about to cross it and then Hussey backing off from the scorer before he realises theres trouble.

Good finish though.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:37:06
hahaha. season over


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:37:31
2-0 very poor defending of the cross again.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:37:36
Fucking Tozer


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:38:13
Season over..


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:38:14
Mayo seems to duck under the goalbound header.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:38:44
Roll on next season. What a load of wank


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:38:45
Fucking Tozer
You spelt Tosser wrong ;)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:39:38
Stanley (Kayden Jackson) 1-1 Exeter


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:40:08
Dear oh dear oh dear.ghosts continually haunt us


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:40:50
Worst performance since Cheltenham, the players don't look particularly bothered today, too many poor performances all round.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:41:20
Poor header then saved by Moore should have been 3.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:41:34
As much as our lot take the piss out of Flitcroft Phil Browns record here is far worse.

Yes we have some average players but surely he should be doing better than he is if we lose today thatís one win in 7 and 7 points from 7 games.

This quite frankly from a team looking for promotion is shit


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:42:26
Not sure if its his injury but Richards seems to have lost the ability to jump for headers.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:42:41
It's not really far worse is it?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:43:32
As much as our lot take the piss out of Flitcroft Phil Browns record here is far worse.

Yes we have some average players but surely he should be doing better than he is if we lose today thatís one win in 7 and 7 points from 7 games.

This quite frankly from a team looking for promotion is shit
Thats pretty unfair really.

PB has some shit to work with that was left over from Flipflops reign.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:44:24
Well we should've known it was a guarantee that an ex town player would score. Bloody hell, we never make things easy for ourselves do we?! Still it is a game of two halves and there will probably be drama in the 2nd half.

What is more frustrating though is, if it stays as it is and results elsewhere stay the same...we'd still only be 3pts from 7th!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:45:06
right, assuming it stays like this it is time for brown to commit long term or fuck off


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:47:53
Good turn by Twine but can't get hold of the shot...blocked 6 yards out.

Unfortunately I think Twine doesn't quite have enough physical presence for todays opponents who are big and strong all over the pitch.

He has come into the g ame a bit more in the last 5 mins as he takes up a striker role rather than winger.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:48:32
Not sure if its his injury but Richards seems to have lost the ability to jump for headers.

He plays much better when he has someone else (Norris), doing that job


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:49:09
Thats pretty unfair really.

PB has some shit to work with that was left over from Flipflops reign.

He should still be getting better out of them than 7 points in 7 matches- very disappointing


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:49:46
HT 2-0 poor.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:53:52
He should still be getting better out of them than 7 points in 7 matches- very disappointing
Alternatively though was (if we lose today) will only have lost 2 in 7 games, Flipflop didn't equal that once this season with us.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 15:58:22
That was god awful.

The pitch is terrible, it's like playing on concrete only it's full of bumps.  Some balls are double bouncing over head height.

Central defenders are terrible.  Newport have almost won every ball into the box.  It gives us no foundation if we can't compete.

Left side of our team is a fucking joke defensively.  There appears to be nowhere on the pitch you can play Taylor without him creating a defensive liability for us.  He's a conundrum for me, best player we have with the ball, great for set pieces and some delivery, but he's absent when defending and exposes those around him.  Hussey is not a good enough defender to compensate.

Both Woollery and Richards are guilty of the same thing, they have average control at best but always try and do something when receiving the ball rather than just holding the damned thing from time to time.  Combined with the pitch today it means they have lost the ball pretty much every time it has been played up to them.

I didn't really get the love for Twine in the last game and I'm afraid he is playing like a youth today.  Spent most of the game like a pinball bouncing around not being anywhere effective and not providing any sort of outlet.

Banks is absent because you cannot get any control in midfield.

Dunne is Dunne.  A combination of ball watching, losing players, chasing the ball and leaving his position and a waste of space in terms of possession.

Keeper is rooted to his line.

Knoyle is doing ok though, so there is that.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: sir windon on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:00:36
Clean sheet mentality?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:01:05
I canít wait until the end of the season and not have to watch most of these hopeless players next season.

Hopefully whoever is our manager next season can bring in some competent players and not another load of assclowns that we have currently.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:03:00
Hard to disagree with anything you say there RobT.

We are poor all over, we can't pass, tackle or head the ball today, changes in style and attitude as well as personel is needed this half.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:03:39
He should still be getting better out of them than 7 points in 7 matches- very disappointing

While I'm inclined to agree, he did make us a little harder to break down and has got us playing a bit more football. The squad as a complete unit just isn't intelligent enough to be able to turn the style of play around almost seamlessly. That's why they play in L2. I don't think it's not for trying though. On both PB and the players part. Bottom line 8/11 of them just don't have the extra ability and they're stuck in a style of play left to us by that blagging turd.

I do think PB with a clean slate could get us out of L2. He wouldn't have to break the bank. Just slightly better and slightly more tactically aware personnel.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:03:51
Much as I'd hate to say it, this s precisely the game for hit it and run football.  I doubt Man City could play the ball around on the floor on this.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:07:08
Mullin on for Woolery.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:08:36
Anyway. Whatís your National fancies?

Iíll go for Gasline Boy


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:10:21
Anyway. Whatís your National fancies?

Iíll go for Gasline Boy
Creosote its good over fences.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:13:25
McDermott on for Purkiss, Hussey gone to CB and Taylor LB


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Power to people on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:14:22
If Brown does not take this then I hope we go for Tidsdale - he's out of contract end of season and he knows this league.

It needs to be done early though so we have enough time to make the changes needed, we don't need wholesale changes but we need to improve the quality in every position


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:16:03
If Brown does not take this then I hope we go for Tidsdale - he's out of contract end of season and he knows this league.

It needs to be done early though so we have enough time to make the changes needed, we don't need wholesale changes but we need to improve the quality in every position
There is no way Tisdale will leave Exeter for Swindon, ever.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:16:39
This league truly is shit. The only time you can be shit, losing 2-0 and yet still move from 11th back to 9th and still be in with a chance of a play off spot with 3.33 games left!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:17:00
Banks hits the bar from 20 yards.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:18:24
Banks hits the bar from 20 yards.

At least we're showing signs of giving it a go! :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:18:51
If Brown does not take this then I hope we go for Tidsdale - he's out of contract end of season and he knows this league.

It needs to be done early though so we have enough time to make the changes needed, we don't need wholesale changes but we need to improve the quality in every position

No chance Tisdale comes here. Heíll either sign something with Exeter or get better offers than us.

If we arenít keeping Brown (Iím meh either way) then we should already be looking for next seasons gaffer. We need an entirely new squad. This one isnít remotely close to be up to standard.
Iíd keep Mullin (still donít think weíve played him upfront enough) but other than that...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:21:45
Yesssss get in boys! 2-1


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:21:52
well done mullin!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:22:21
2-1 Mullin.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:23:20
well done mullin!

You must hate me  :D


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: DV Canio on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:23:22
Talk of the devil...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:24:05
Port Vale 1 - 0 Lincoln


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:24:44
Lincoln losing


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:25:21
Red Card - Town


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:25:29
Mayo sent off.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:25:54
Left his foot in after a clearance after he was booked earlier.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:26:35
We are now left with 2 fullback and a midfielder turned fullback at the back.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:27:24
Fucksake could we BE more self destructive


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:28:07
Twine off Linganzi on.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:28:48
Banks with a terrible miss from 3 yards.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:30:04
Banks gone back to CB.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:30:18
Notts 2-1 up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:33:05
I am not sure other results matter much to us now.  I'd drop Meneyese off on the way past Bristol.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:37:24
Cov 2-1 up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:38:04
Notts 3-1 up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:38:38
Good save by Moore 1 on 1.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:40:33
Ref keeps up his card count


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:46:10
949 Town fans there today.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:47:09
Bout the same as next week😁


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:48:42
How we need a Barry corr!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:51:03
Moore goes walk about and Newport hit the post with an empty net.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:53:57
mwaaap
mwaaap
mwaaaaaaaaaaa


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:54:25
FT 2-1 poor.


Title: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:55:35
hussey throws punch into the away end apparently


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Power to people on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:55:57
Radio report Hussey throws a punch at a town fan


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:56:42
Radio report Hussey throws a punch at a town fan
Thatís the way to do it


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:56:52
Radio report Hussey throws a punch at a town fan

That about sums it up.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:57:36
Hope it was more accurate than his passing


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:58:26
A bit of effort in the second half, went more direct which is what this game and pitch required.  Mullin suited the ball being essentially a rubber ball bouncing all over the shop, so a good change.  Then a fuckwit decides to give the ref a chance to get some cards out - to be fair, Dunne can count himself lucky as well, talking back so many times, he could easily have had a yellow before he got the one he did.

A shit end to a shit season it seems.  Shame we didn't do the necessary back in December.  Although you have to laugh a bit when you end a game with your left back and most creative midfielder in central defence.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: woolster on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 16:58:42
Hope it was more accurate than his passing
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:00:10
Very bad form by Hussey if that is indeed true.

Bye Bye Hussey.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:03:07
Just need to clear the books and get shot of all of them..  start again..

At least Nicky Hammonds consortium will sort it out... 


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:03:46
So we're shit, looked a lost cause much of the time but how the fuck are we still in with a shot of play offs? Even now? Lincoln v Cov match comes massively into play. I really would love this season to die but even when we try to self capitulate, the league is somehow still giving us a bloody chance. It's a sign I tell theeeeeeeee!

Yes, I missed the punch but I hope it was due to some total dick trying to be clever (feeling confident, had a few beers. Twat). It's not great but if it's because of it, the prick deserves it.  :pint:


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:05:51
I think you can put those ideas of having a chance to one side.  Too many teams above us, you can catch one or two if you are lucky, but don't have a solid enough foundation as a team to even look like winning 3 on the bounce.  Even if we did, the teams above are too many with too many games in hand as well, they will get enough points.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:07:23
Shame we didn't do the necessary back in December.  Although you have to laugh a bit when you end a game with your left back and most creative midfielder in central defence.

Well I think we all know why that was the case - they're either all injured/suspended/committing ABH

Fuck me, we don't need to give the Piss Stains any ammo really do we.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:08:08
At last the season is over! (Not mathematically but realistically).

It sounds like there is more fight off the field than on with these players.

Weíve really missed Conroy and Preston this season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:09:30
still in with a shot of play offs?

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Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:09:41
I think you can put those ideas of having a chance to one side.  Too many teams above us, you can catch one or two if you are lucky, but don't have a solid enough foundation as a team to even look like winning 3 on the bounce.  Even if we did, the teams above are too many with too many games in hand as well, they will get enough points.

We're still 9th. Cov and Lincoln play each other. Mansfield will go back to their equal shitness (that's my opinion). Yes I probably have put it on the shelf for the season but there still remains several variables and everyone is pretty shit.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:12:13
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Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:12:33
Lincoln are not, in my opinion, going to get less than 6 points from their 5 games.  That mean swe won't catch them.
Coventry are equally likely to get enough with an extra game on top of the goal difference and points gap.
Mansfield might dip again, but we have to get maximum points almost to jump them as well - which will be irrelevant anyway because of the other two.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:13:41
Just need to clear the books and get shot of all of them..  start again..
Pretty much.

I would keep Taylor, Banks (if we can sign him), Richards, Woolery (shows some promise), Preston, Mullin, Henry, Knoyle and Conroy if he can get back to fitness.

Jury's still out on Purkiss, Anderson, Dunne, Linganzi, McDermott, Norris, Iandolo and Lancashire, replace them if decent replacements come up cheaply.

Definately get rid of RCC, Moore, Robertson, McGivern.

Priority for next season, get back Vigs or another decent keeper, get a left back who can defend, at least 1 if not 2 centre backs, a tackling holding midfielder, an run with the ball attacking midfielder, and a target man.



Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:14:16
Different season - same old shite. Some of the performances really have plumbed the depths of ineptitude.

The only ones Iíd keep are Conroy, Preston, Knoyle, Mullin

For all his good points, Taylor is a liability defensively. The midfield has been a shambles all season.

Hussey can fuck off. Dunne and Lunganzi can fuck off. Banks can fuck off. Anderson can fuck off. Woolery can fuck off. Norris can fuck off. Donít get me started on those 2 keepers. They can both fuck off. Purkiss can fuck off. Lancashire can fuck off. Robertson can fuck off.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:14:32
At least Nicky Hammonds consortium will sort it out... 
:hmmm:


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:14:54
At last the season is over! (Not mathematically but realistically).

It sounds like there is more fight off the field than on with these players.

Weíve really missed Conroy and Preston this season.

I think that is a bit unfair, we are not out of this because we don;t have a bunch a players of willing to put the effort in.  It is more a combination of shit management, shit level of talent, bad organisation and unfortunate issue of central defenders falling over themselves to visit hospitals.  They tried today, I will give them that, they were just shit.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:17:29
Lincoln are not, in my opinion, going to get less than 6 points from their 5 games.  That mean swe won't catch them.
Coventry are equally likely to get enough with an extra game on top of the goal difference and points gap.
Mansfield might dip again, but we have to get maximum points almost to jump them as well - which will be irrelevant anyway because of the other two.


That's all fair and we do have to win our remaining three games. I just think with Lincoln and Cov playing each other, whoever loses that could wobble. It's more of a tease if anything that we do still have some sort of an outside outside chance. I'd much rather the season did finish today.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:18:07
I think that is a bit unfair, we are not out of this because we don;t have a bunch a players of willing to put the effort in.  It is more a combination of shit management, shit level of talent, bad organisation and unfortunate issue of central defenders falling over themselves to visit hospitals.  They tried today, I will give them that, they were just shit.

I was being a bit pedantic based on the Hussey punch but you are right, they put in the effort, they are just inept.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:18:47
Yes the effort is there in 90% of games (about what you expect at this level TBH) but the quality is missing, the final ball in the box, the final tackle, the final poke of the ball into the net.

Yes we are in div 4 but other teams in this league have players capable of doing those things on smaller budgets than ours.

First and foremost lets sort out if PB is going to be with us next season or not and work from there, I have a gut feeling he won't stay.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:19:02
Different season - same old shite. Some of the performances really have plumbed the depths of ineptitude.

The only ones Iíd keep are Conroy, Preston, Knoyle, Mullin

For all his good points, Taylor is a liability defensively. The midfield has been a shambles all season.

Hussey can fuck off. Dunne and Lunganzi can fuck off. Banks can fuck off. Anderson can fuck off. Woolery can fuck off. Norris can fuck off. Donít get me started on those 2 keepers. They can both fuck off. Purkiss can fuck off. Lancashire can fuck off. Robertson can fuck off.

I'm sort of with you.  I think a good coach will eventually get something from Woollery, but it looks like he has been allowed to develop with a sole reliance on pace.

Richards is worth keeping around, he at least has a strikers instinct, but needs to be played in the right partnership, good squad player maybe.

Taylor - for all his good points, I think he is on the verge of the end of his career now.  He is a ghost in defence and that is our biggest issue.  If we had even an average defence to fall back on this year we'd be in the play offs.  We might not look like banging 5 in during a game, but we have scored enough to be up there, but you cannot concede the amount we do and stay in the hunt.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:36:37
They tried ... they were just shit.

If ever we need a strapline for the season highlights video...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:48:31
At last the season is over! (Not mathematically but realistically).

It sounds like there is more fight off the field than on with these players.

Weíve really missed Conroy and Preston this season.

Realistically the season was over after the Chesterfield game.... we'll never probably know the full truth as to why Flitters left, but it certainly didn't suggest he had any great faith in the Power project going forward.

There 's still plenty to play for.... despite what Bambi thinks we're in a dangerous place.  We don't need the wheels falling off, as the main positive of this season is that we've halted the slide, and been at least competitve in most games.  This has meant we've been around the Po's slots without quite managing to look wholly convincing.  It probably won't take too much off field chaos to throw that achievement away.  So a couple of good shows at the CG would at least suggest all is not lost.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:49:32
PB seems to me like he's talking about a future at Town. Said he can improve this team and make it better but he needs a transfer window. Talks highly of the fans and apologises to all 923 of them. Says they have wasted their money coming today (in a very sympathetic manner). He's disgusted with the performance. Wants players that put their heads into challenges.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 17:54:37
Realistically the season was over after the Chesterfield game.... we'll never probably know the full truth as to why Flitters left, but it certainly didn't suggest he had any great faith in the Power project going forward.

There 's still plenty to play for.... despite what Bambi (it's Bamboo, but appreciate the sentiment) thinks, I think we're in a dangerous place.  We don't need the wheels falling off, as the main positive of this season is that we've halted the slide, and been at least competitive in most games.  This has meant we've been around the Po's slots without quite managing to look wholly convincing.  It probably won't take too much off field chaos to throw that achievement away.  So a couple of good shows at the CG would at least suggest all is not lost.

Changed some bits for you.

I think Flitcroft left because he thought he was going into an easier job. So he could get a promotion with Stags and hide behind the massive myth that he is a competent manager. He's a bullshitter. Period.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 18:45:02
What an absolute load of shit this season has been.  Really don't know what else to say. 

I can't actually remember the last season we finished well?  Even the seasons we made the play-offs, we effectively limped over the line.  In 3 years, we've gone from being 90 minutes from the championship to this shower of shit who aren't even good enough to make the play-offs in a very poor League 2.  It's shameful how far we've fallen.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Outletred on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 18:47:48
What an absolute load of shit this season has been.  Really don't know what else to say. 

I can't actually remember the last season we finished well?  Even the seasons we made the play-offs, we effectively limped over the line.  In 3 years, we've gone from being 90 minutes from the championship to this shower of shit who aren't even good enough to make the play-offs in a very poor League 2.  It's shameful how far we've fallen.

And with Power at the helm the decline will continue....


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:02:50
What an absolute load of shit this season has been.  Really don't know what else to say. 

I can't actually remember the last season we finished well?  Even the seasons we made the play-offs, we effectively limped over the line.  In 3 years, we've gone from being 90 minutes from the championship to this shower of shit who aren't even good enough to make the play-offs in a very poor League 2.  It's shameful how far we've fallen.

This season has been far from shit.... just pretty average for Div 4.  You mention the last PO season, well Chesterfield were there too and they now look very likely to make the Conference next season.... now that is shit. 

Strong finishes are rare.... the last one was probably 88/89.  League football is attritional, especially Div 4, squads get ground down by fatigue and injuries, which is eactly what has happened to this one,


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:04:16
Itís very easy, and convenient, to point the finger of blame at Power. But it was Flitcroft who recruited, Dunne, Linganzi, Robertson, Lancashire, Purkiss. Whilst his recruitment of the more offensive players looked decent, I think we all had reservations about the recruitment of defenders and midfielders from the outset.

Yes, we can point to Conroy and Preston missing a large chunk of the season but, to my mind, it was the midfield that managed to both fail to protect the defence and support the strikers. The striking department was weak and seemingly incapable of converting a large % of those chances that were created.

Chuck in a couple of flappy keepers and itís no real surprise we struggled in so many games.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:22:36
you do have to say assembling a promotion winning side from nothing is difficult though.

was not impressed with what we got, with Flitcrofts style or,  ultimately, with Flitcroft. But it was never going to be easy


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:25:13
This season has been far from shit.... just pretty average for Div 4.  You mention the last PO season, well Chesterfield were there too and they now look very likely to make the Conference next season.... now that is shit. 

Strong finishes are rare.... the last one was probably 88/89.  League football is attritional, especially Div 4, squads get ground down by fatigue and injuries, which is eactly what has happened to this one,
Bla bla bla Reg. I'm with Jo, it's been an utterly shit season as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you've enjoyed it immensely though.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:25:46
And with Power at the helm the decline will continue....
How can you make such a statement without backing up with evidence! When LP took over we were going nowhere and the stfc fans hated PDC for spending money on players then leaving when they were sold for peanuts behind his back. Some people have short memories, if we stick with LP who's cut costs and is running the club at breakeven, with old hasbeens and nonleague unpolished diamonds, we'll still have a team to support. What league that team ends up in we may need to speak to the Cambridge supporters. Anyway roll on next season with the next manager and his new squad.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:26:36
Itís very easy, and convenient, to point the finger of blame at Power. But it was Flitcroft who recruited, Dunne, Linganzi, Robertson, Lancashire, Purkiss. Whilst his recruitment of the more offensive players looked decent, I think we all had reservations about the recruitment of defenders and midfielders from the outset.

Yes, we can point to Conroy and Preston missing a large chunk of the season but, to my mind, it was the midfield that managed to both fail to protect the defence and support the strikers. The striking department was weak and seemingly incapable of converting a large % of those chances that were created.

Chuck in a couple of flappy keepers and itís no real surprise we struggled in so many games.

Flitters came in late without a pre season planned, largely without a backroom staff, with a need to recruit a more or less full squad, with no great budget advantage over most of the other sides in Div 4.

Most sane folk recognised this as a difficult job.... when he started signing up Div 4 journeymen, most were happy, that it marked a clear departure from Power's Swindon way, which many thought could see us doing a Chesterfield.

Given the constraints, I don't think any manager could have done a whole lot more.  What is now needed is a bit of stability where a gaffer can build on what we've got, add in some fresh players and try to attain an improved finish for next season. The worry is more instability...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:36:19
I'm with Reg it's been nowhere near shit.Disappointing considering the opportunities we've had but not shit


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:45:56
Bla bla bla Reg. I'm with Jo, it's been an utterly shit season as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you've enjoyed it immensely though.

To give some sort of context as to it not being that bad.... in the 31 seasons since we last played at Newport in a league fixture.... in 11 of them we've won more games than the present 19.... in 20 of them we've won fewer.

That puts it pretty much in the average bracket....


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:49:46
I'm with Reg it's been nowhere near shit.Disappointing considering the opportunities we've had but not shit
We've managed to combine both being unattractive and ineffective. While there may well be all kinds of mitigating circumstances around that, and I accept some of those, it's still been pretty shit to watch. Which, as a fan, means it has been pretty shit for me


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:54:32
To give some sort of context as to it not being that bad.... in the 31 seasons since we last played at Newport in a league fixture.... in 11 of them we've won more games than the present 19.... in 20 of them we've won fewer.

That puts it pretty much in the average bracket....
Previous seasons don't provide any context to this season. They are just that, previous seasons. The league is shit, we've been shit, therefore the season has been shit. How we've done in previous seasons doesn't influence that.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 19:57:35
I'm with Reg it's been nowhere near shit.Disappointing considering the opportunities we've had but not shit
My money was on back to back relegations so I'm looking at a glass half full, we've over performed this season. We could have stayed up last season with some action in January but LP was happy to let us sink.Without a complete club overhaul from now on we can see where LP is taking us. Suck it up STFC hobbits and take what we're given, we'll soon have a new training ground at Highworth and the the county ground will be owned by our chairman, happy days! Will the next slim shady please stand up.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:03:30
Previous seasons don't provide any context to this season. They are just that, previous seasons. The league is shit, we've been shit, therefore the season has been shit. How we've done in previous seasons doesn't influence that.

Hahaha, this is so true but Reg will never listen. He'll always harp back to something that happened in the 70s as if it has any bearing on a completely different team with a completely different back room in a completely different decade. It's what he does.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:03:55
My first match was in 71. We are likely to have our second  lowest finish in that time. This follows on from a season that of total and utter ineptitude. The fact it's been less shit than last season is only because last season was so fucking desperately shit.
I don't see any reason not to expect more shit next season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:05:16
Hahaha, this is so true but Reg will never listen. He'll always harp back to something that happened in the 70s as if it has any bearing on a completely different team with a completely different back room in a completely different decade. It's what he does.
So you don't think we have anything to learn from history? In the general sense or just in a sporting context?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:08:05
Previous seasons don't provide any context to this season. They are just that, previous seasons. The league is shit, we've been shit, therefore the season has been shit. How we've done in previous seasons doesn't influence that.

The point of a football match is to win... I know under Luke we lost sight of that, but if you win it's a good thing, you go and   :pint:,  it makes you happy.  In no season have we won every game.... in no season have we lost every game. In a really good season you win maybe 25 or 26.... these seasons are rare. In a really poor season you maybe win 10/11, very occasionally there will be outliers either way.

19 wins means pretty average, if you took a median figure, perhaps slightly better than bog average.



Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Ells on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:08:34
So you don't think we have anything to learn from history? In the general sense or just in a sporting context?

Of course you can learn from history in a general sense, but I will put my neck on the line and say the fact we lost to Charlton in 1963 has no bearing on how we'd play against Charlton tomorrow. At all.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:11:45
My first match was in 71. We are likely to have our second  lowest finish in that time. This follows on from a season that of total and utter ineptitude. The fact it's been less shit than last season is only because last season was so fucking desperately shit.
I don't see any reason not to expect more shit next season.
Based on theat theory our cup of sh1te does run over and we are truly blessed.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:12:51
One (of many) problems with reg is that he'll use a game in 63 when we got walloped by Charlton to say we have no chance, as if a game in 75 when we hammered them doesn't count.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:16:16
The point of a football match is to win... I know under Luke we lost sight of that, but if you win it's a good thing, you go and   :pint:,  it makes you happy.  In no season have we won every game.... in no season have we lost every game. In a really good season you win maybe 25 or 26.... these seasons are rare. In a really poor season you maybe win 10/11, very occasionally there will be outliers either way.

19 wins means pretty average, if you took a median figure, perhaps slightly better than bog average.


I don't see your point Reg. History is not a barometer as to whether or not this season has been successful. I'll say it again, the league is shit, we've been shit. The conclusion is self explanatory. There won't be many who see it another way, at least not many who regularly attend games & have to watch this week in week out.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:34:20
I don't see your point Reg. History is not a barometer as to whether or not this season has been successful. I'll say it again, the league is shit, we've been shit. The conclusion is self explanatory. There won't be many who see it another way, at least not many who regularly attend games & have to watch this week in week out.

We're in the 4th tier of English football, it's never been great.... we know that.

The historical context is provided by the fact that largely speaking the game has always been XI v XI, in a 40 something games season, on a rectangular grass pitch of minimum dimensions. Further there has always been and continues to be 3 outcomes for a completed game.

This provides a useful bank of historical data.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:40:49
We're in the 4th tier of English football, it's never been great.... we know that.

The historical context is provided by the fact that largely speaking the game has always been XI v XI, in a 40 something games season, on a rectangular grass pitch of minimum dimensions. Further there has always been and continues to be 3 outcomes for a completed game.

This provides a useful bank of historical data.
If you are assessing this season in purely statistical terms against previous seasons without taking into context the variables, like the standard of the league, expectations of the fan base (both pre-season & ongoing), signings, injuries/bans etc then your point stands. However I'm looking at it purely from July 1st, taking all these variables into consideration. If you'd offered me where we are now at the start of the season, would I have taken it? The answer is no. I wanted better, I expected better & if this is a reasonable season in your eyes then fair enough.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 20:59:04
Reg was loving it when we went down last season. That's where his barometer is.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:04:09
Of course you can learn from history in a general sense, but I will put my neck on the line and say the fact we lost to Charlton in 1963 has no bearing on how we'd play against Charlton tomorrow. At all.
No but that wasn't what Reg was saying in this instance, he was quoting a general trend over a period of years. Many factors will have changed within that time (much as they would in a geopolitical context, if, for example, you wanted to draw lessons from the 1930s for today's climate) but there is enough of a similar context to draw comparisons. I get as impatient with the "In the 1970s before Thatcher ruined everything, a working man could buy a Rolls Royce for tuppence 'appeny and still have change for chips" anecdotes as anyone but I think you're being a bit unfair here.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:12:18
If you are assessing this season in purely statistical terms against previous seasons without taking into context the variables, like the standard of the league, expectations of the fan base (both pre-season & ongoing), signings, injuries/bans etc then your point stands. However I'm looking at it purely from July 1st, taking all these variables into consideration. If you'd offered me where we are now at the start of the season, would I have taken it? The answer is no. I wanted better, I expected better & if this is a reasonable season in your eyes then fair enough.

This is what I said at the outset of this season by way of expectations.....

"However, the infrastructure of the club is still Div 4/ upper Conference level, so Flitcroft will be doing well to achieve anything other than respectablity with his collection of journeymen."

I think he achieved respectabilty, with the odd little run which suggested maybe something a bit better, so about what I expected.

Now, had Power built us a new shiny training facility, which suggested the club was moving forward....


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:13:22
Well reg's initial point was(I think) that if you were to use the other 2 relegated teams as examples of having a shit season,we have been better than that.And that is a fact


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:16:32
Reg was loving it when we went down last season. That's where his barometer is.

My barometer hangs on the wall in the hall.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:19:06
If you are assessing this season in purely statistical terms against previous seasons without taking into context the variables, like the standard of the league, expectations of the fan base (both pre-season & ongoing), signings, injuries/bans etc then your point stands. However I'm looking at it purely from July 1st, taking all these variables into consideration. If you'd offered me where we are now at the start of the season, would I have taken it? The answer is no. I wanted better, I expected better & if this is a reasonable season in your eyes then fair enough.
But weíre you expecting better solely because we were in L2, ergo, we must surely do well, despite the obvious dodgy signings by the Flit Meister?

I donít think even my own low expectations quite envisaged having the double done over us by Newport fucking County. The fact that we struggled consistently despite it being a rotten, shit league does worry me, though.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:37:29
I know this has been alluded to before but this season's problems started when LP couldn't find a manager after reluctantly sacking Williams.  Flitcroft arrived when the majority of the decent free transfer players had been snapped up but his recruitment was average at best.  Come January and he made a complete bollocks of it, especially the defence.  It was always flimsy but to rely on a guy from the slave traders with hardly any experience was criminal, it was obvious if we picked up any more injuries/suspensions the defence would be in trouble.  In midfield we lack a player who can put his foot on the ball and dictate play, I personally thought that guy would be Elsnick but his fitness has been a major problem and his form has suffered.  Thnk with the forwards we have we should have scored a few more goals and eased the problems slightly but Norris has had his problems and I dont really think he is the answer.  Since the Vigs blow-up we have struggled with both of our keepers, perhaps Henry should be given his chance in the remaining games. 

If what is being said about Hussey punching a supporter is true then he should be fucked off back to Bramhall Lane pronto, at least that would open the door for Vigs to return next season!!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:40:12
But weíre you expecting better solely because we were in L2, ergo, we must surely do well, despite the obvious dodgy signings by the Flit Meister?

I donít think even my own low expectations quite envisaged having the double done over us by Newport fucking County. The fact that we struggled consistently despite it being a rotten, shit league does worry me, though.
I expected a top 7 finish, not because we're Swindon & we're 'too big' for this division but because I made a rational decision based on the other sides in the league being largely of a poorer standard than ourselves. The fact we've failed to achieve this (or are extremely unlikely too) means it's been a shit season in my eyes. I've also been 'subjected' to every home game which in the main have been sub-standard at best.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:47:57
I know this has been alluded to before but this season's problems started when LP couldn't find a manager after reluctantly sacking Williams.  Flitcroft arrived when the majority of the decent free transfer players had been snapped up but his recruitment was average at best.  Come January and he made a complete bollocks of it, especially the defence.  It was always flimsy but to rely on a guy from the slave traders with hardly any experience was criminal, it was obvious if we picked up any more injuries/suspensions the defence would be in trouble.  In midfield we lack a player who can put his foot on the ball and dictate play, I personally thought that guy would be Elsnick but his fitness has been a major problem and his form has suffered.  Thnk with the forwards we have we should have scored a few more goals and eased the problems slightly but Norris has had his problems and I dont really think he is the answer.  Since the Vigs blow-up we have struggled with both of our keepers, perhaps Henry should be given his chance in the remaining games. 

If what is being said about Hussey punching a supporter is true then he should be fucked off back to Bramhall Lane pronto, at least that would open the door for Vigs to return next season!!
Am I missing something here? Why would Hussey going back allow Vigs to return? Did something go on between the pair of them?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: hefty toe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 21:59:56
Flitcroft was a bad manager.  All lion, no fox.  Not remotely analytical just preaching 'a million percent' bollocks and full of bluster.  We were fortunate that Mansfield took him off our hands.  Our league position was very flattering under his reign as suggested by our poor goal difference.  The football did not improve during his tenure - it was always just hit and hope.  The fallout with Vigouroux was probably just about pride and machismo.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 22:13:49
Flitcroft was a bad manager.  All lion, no fox.  Not remotely analytical just preaching 'a million percent' bollocks and full of bluster.  We were fortunate that Mansfield took him off our hands.  Our league position was very flattering under his reign as suggested by our poor goal difference.  The football did not improve during his tenure - it was always just hit and hope.  The fallout with Vigouroux was probably just about pride and machismo.

I prefer the term 'a cockless pornstar' - aka, all mouth and no trousers.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 22:22:47
I thought that was DF's first win in 6. It was his first win in 9!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, April 14, 2018, 22:37:09
I think it is entirely possible to say this season has been shit, namely because it has been bar about 4 games, and also say it could have been a heel of a lot worse.

Flitcroft got in a team with one thing in mind - thump it forward and play for the knock downs.  During our first league game i think I lamented the style but suggested we would probably make the play offs - we have fallen just shy.  Unfortunately, because we just played roulette each week, we stood the chance of losing too many, and we did.  In December it was clear we were not quite right, it looked like the defence was shit and we were not quite as cohesive upfront as we should be, with players often playing slightly out of position.  A change then could have provided another Manager the opportunity to fix a few cracks and see us over the line.  It was too late once it was forced, and Brown has been left with a team with big holes as well as trying to get them to play a different way.  in an ideal world you just come in and keep it going - it's a messy end to a shit season to watch, and yes Reg, the course we were on from last season could have meant it was worse.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 01:08:06
I thought we were in danger of going non league.

it has been shit, the most shit it's been since i started watching league position wise. just less shit than I thought it would be.

A shit season, but it could be worse. lets hope power hasn't spunked his financial load on this season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 07:42:21
I think our cup Ďruní sums up the season a bit. Get past the first round of the Fa Cup for the first time in ages, breezing past a non-league side that was, on paper, a banana skin. Only to concede five pathetically at a poor Stevenage side.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 09:36:17
That was the performance of a mid table side with nothing to play for.
Except that there was still something to play for.
Not sure that the mentality of this squad has ever been quite as it should be.
Still, the sun was shining for a change.

Quality issues aside, Flitcroft was partially successful in getting results away from home.
It's the early home form that finished us off this season.

Not convinced that the budget was as "competitive" as has been stated, but regardless of that, it's still up to the manager to forge a team with the requisite spirit to get out of this league.

It's interesting that the teams with the lowest budgets could end up winning both this league and the Conference.
Macclesfield are supposedly full time, but some of the players have second jobs to make ends meet.
Look to have issues with a stay away owner as well.
I'd imagine that they would be among the favourites to go straight back down, so possibly only one relegation spot for Reg to worry about.  :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: cdakev on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 09:55:33
 I must be in minority here as i expected us to finish in the top 3.

Our biggest problem was a failure to land a goal scorer as early doors we created a hat full of chances.

The next issue was losing Conroy and Preston thus having a shit defence.

Then we decide not to play the best goalkeeper in the league. Yes he might be a dick but that should have been sorted behind closed doors.

After that the season became a mess and yes we messed up big time.

It will require a total rebuild next season with a hand full of players that would justify remaining.

LP needs to resolve the manager situation asap, and if it is Brown then make that decision so he can decide who wants

IMO i'm neither here or there with Brown but i'm not sure what the alternative is.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 10:15:58
Quote from: cdakev
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Then we decide not to play the best goalkeeper in the league. Yes he might be a dick but that should have been sorted behind closed doors.
.

Even if you think getting Vigs out the club was justified - replacing him with a keeper that turns to jelly when having a bad patch, and a backup keeper who just isn't of the standard yet... that's Flitcrofts mess up.

That said, the problems team far deeper than the keeper. As you pointed out.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 10:24:49
I expected a top 7 finish, not because we're Swindon & we're 'too big' for this division but because I made a rational decision based on the other sides in the league being largely of a poorer standard than ourselves. The fact we've failed to achieve this (or are extremely unlikely too) means it's been a shit season in my eyes. I've also been 'subjected' to every home game which in the main have been sub-standard at best.

This in a nutshell.

I have renewed my ST in the hope that it can get better, but as this season implodes moves must surely be made now as to a manager so that he can get us moving in the right direction early, not as happened last summer.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: cdakev on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 10:26:52
IMO the two goalkeepers next season should be Vigs and Henry.

I would play Henry for the remainder of the season and i would have played him far earlier.

Charles Reese-Cook and Moore need to be moved on.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 10:33:05
I'm not terribly analytical in assessing whether it's been a shit season or not, I just ask myself the question, "How much have I enjoyed this season?" My answer is "Not one bit OST"...it has therefore been, without doubt a shit season.

I know I should be grateful (Reg) that we've not 'done a Chesterfield' and slipped through to the Conference - as it appears they are going to do - and of course I am. On the other hand, that's not made the season any less abysmal and it's not going to cause me to crack open the Champagne, neither is the fact that it was far worse 35 years ago as some like to regularly remind us (not having a go at anyone but it does get a bit boring)

Appointing Flitcroft looked a decent move initially, especially in the light of 'handing him the keys' and letting him get on with it (although I did have some misgivings about his 11 game losing run at Bury). It turns out though that the bloke is a Grade 'A' Bullshitter who is right up there with Hart and Malpas in terms of shitness - in fact he's worse, he is an absolute imposter of a football manager. I sincerely hope he does not fluke Mansfield into L1 as it would be utterly undeserving for him to get a promotion for this season on his CV.

Having said that, if Power can regroup, get a half decent budget together (doesn't even have to be huge, just decent) and get PB to stay, I'm sure we can challenge for a top 3 spot next season (which I thought we would do this season cdakev - you're not alone!)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 11:18:42
Vigs this season has been no better than the other keepers. He has been shit with the added bonus of appearing disinterested. I would also play Henry for the last 3 games but I'd happily see the other 3 keepers gone and a new one brought in.
I'd keep mullin, knoyle, Richards, Conroy, Preston, Norris, and purkiss. Taylor is great on the ball but off of it is shite. I'd keep him but maybe as a supersub. The others can go. Woolery and Anderson are shite. Dunne and linganzi just don't influence games enough. Lancashire is shit and a shit captain. Robertson is wank. Hussey can go fuck himself if he whacked one of ours yesterday. Banks has gone seriously backwards.
I'd actually make purkiss captain and play him in a central ,3 with Conroy and Preston around him.
I must see a different game to most.i rate purkiss and Norris but think woolery is utter shite.
Let's see what a couple of our young ones are like now for the next 3.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 11:31:36
Very bad form by Hussey if that is indeed true.

Bye Bye Hussey.

Some cunt in a flash Merc with the number plate HU55IEY was driving like an idiot down Great Western Way yesterday morning, weaving in and out of cars. I assume it was him.

What a grade A bellend.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 11:41:07
I still stand by my comment yesterday that it's been a shit season.  I was also in the camp of genuinely thinking we'd be challenging for autos, least of all play-offs.  What did I base that on?  Probably nothing more than the fact that the last 2 times we've been in League 2 we've come straight back up (under 2 very different managers).  Coupled with Power stepping away from recruitment, supposedly providing a decent budget for League 2, I just wrongly had that expectation.  Not only am I obviously disappointed I was wrong, the football has been absolutely shit and we've had some real hammerings.  In fact I'm struggling to think of a game I can honestly say I came away from having enjoyed.  Probably Crewe because of turning it around.  The fact that large sections of our support had already left by the time we scored the winner pretty much sums this season up.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 11:52:25
Luton away was a rare bright spot.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 12:26:59
Luton away was a rare bright spot.

I didn't go, so can't even say that  :(


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 12:27:37
I'm not terribly analytical in assessing whether it's been a shit season or not, I just ask myself the question, "How much have I enjoyed this season?" My answer is "Not one bit OST"...it has therefore been, without doubt a shit season.

A bit of analysis is sometimes a good idea for example your contention that Flitters was worse than Hart.  Truth is that a comparison between Phil Brown and Hart, shows a similar record.  Hart got 11 games.... PB 10.  After 7 Hart's record W 1 D 3 L3.... PB's W1 D4 L2.

You then contend that if PB stays and Power gives him a "decent" budget you'd expect us to compete for top 3 next season.

Flitters had a win rate over 50%..... Hart 20 something. PB's slightly better.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 13:46:17
Still no more news on the Hussey incident ?,  must admit I didn't see anything myself,  but then, like many others was in a rush to get out after such a shit performance and get back to the cider house we found just next to the station.  Anyway,  if it's true as it seems it is IMO Hussey can just fuck off back to Yorkshire.  Shit game,  Shit season, roll on August, let's start again.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 14:32:09
A bit of analysis is sometimes a good idea for example your contention that Flitters was worse than Hart.  Truth is that a comparison between Phil Brown and Hart, shows a similar record.  Hart got 11 games.... PB 10.  After 7 Hart's record W 1 D 3 L3.... PB's W1 D4 L2.

You then contend that if PB stays and Power gives him a "decent" budget you'd expect us to compete for top 3 next season.

Flitters had a win rate over 50%..... Hart 20 something. PB's slightly better.

I think that type of comparison only serves to illustrate how incredibly difficult it is for a manager to come in with 10-12 games of a season remaining and try and get some positive results with a team built by their predecessor.
Throw MacDonald in there as well.

Flitcroft's loss rate was an impressive 40%


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:00:22
A bit of analysis is sometimes a good idea for example your contention that Flitters was worse than Hart.  Truth is that a comparison between Phil Brown and Hart, shows a similar record.  Hart got 11 games.... PB 10.  After 7 Hart's record W 1 D 3 L3.... PB's W1 D4 L2.

You then contend that if PB stays and Power gives him a "decent" budget you'd expect us to compete for top 3 next season.

Flitters had a win rate over 50%..... Hart 20 something. PB's slightly better.

We can interpret the stats how we like depending on our 'half full/half empty/nonplussed' outlooks. DF may well have had a win rate over 50% but he had a loss rate of about 43% the other 7% making up draws.

Now if we want to be comparable and make it a fairish test. Let us use your stats for both Hart and Brown in the short period they managed/have managed Town to date and DFs stats at Stags to date because there's no point comparing DFs 42 games at Town to PB and PH shorter data;

Manager    P  W D L  W%   D%    L%
=======================
Phil Brown  7   1  4  2  14.3  57.1    28.6
Dave Flitcr  9   1  4  4  11.1  44.45  44.45
Paul Hart   11  1  4  6    9.1  36.3    54.6

It's interesting they've all drawn four so far, which would indicate a fine margin. We also have to take into account that PH's data was in the league above. None of them come out great in the W% but it's probably important to note that PB's  L% is extremely better than PH's at nearly 50% and significantly better against DF's at about 35%. Feel free to interpret these stats however you wish.  :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:19:21
Well I committed to go and so I went. Pissed about on the trains there and back.....no you need a ticket...no you don't need a ticket, pay on the train....blah blah...shambles.

I did get a result yesterday, discovering the Cellar Door micro pub and £3 a pint 6% scrumpy....wonderful.

Got to the ground and whilst basking in the sunshine thought I might go to sleep as the cider kicked in. The players decided to that for me...fucking worse than hopeless display in the first half.

Newport organised and physical and we couldn't match them, second best.

Improved second half but we needed a win and that was never going to happen. Disappointing as I though we put up a decent show on Tuesday night.

Fucked off back to the pub for another scrumpy and back on the train.

Season finished at Exeter and now finally the straws to be grasped have all disappeared....we ain't going no where.

The abyss of non league has been avoided and I was seriously worried that we would drop again. I would of taken out current league finish all day long on opening day.... defeatist maybe but we were worse than dogshit last season and I was fearful of free fall.
I believe we had a competitive team to watch and support...quite good but obviously not good enough.

Next season is key and I am hoping we do at least have something to build on for a shot at L2....work to do...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:19:45
I didn't go, so can't even say that  :(
A really good away day and a reminder of how good it can be following STFC  :nod:

A bit of analysis is sometimes a good idea for example your contention that Flitters was worse than Hart. 
When I say 'worse than Hart' I'm really just saying I dislike him more (which is saying something as I really couldn't stand Hart). Statistical analysis doesn't really apply - it's subjective. I also just happen to think that Brown will do a much better job than Flitcroft did - again purely subjective.

"There are lies, damned lies and statistics"...Benjamin Disraeli (or the Duke of Wellington or Mark Twain or possibly none of them)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:21:36
We can interpret the stats how we like depending on our 'half full/half empty/nonplussed' outlooks. DF may well have had a win rate over 50% but he had a loss rate of about 43% the other 7% making up draws.

Now if we want to be comparable and make it a fairish test. Let us use your stats for both Hart and Brown in the short period they managed/have managed Town to date and DFs stats at Stags to date because there's no point comparing DFs 42 games at Town to PB and PH shorter data;

Manager    P  W D L  W%   D%    L%
=======================
Phil Brown 7  1  4 2  14.3  57.1  28.6
Dave Flitcr 9  1  4 4  11.1  44.45  44.45
Paul Hart  11 1  4 6    9.1  36.3  54.6

It's interesting they've all drawn four so far, which would indicate a fine margin. We also have to take into account that PH's data was in the league above. None of them come out great in the W% but it's probably important to note that PB's  L% is extremely better than PH's at nearly 50% and significantly better against DF's at about 35%. Feel free to interpret these stats however you wish.  :)

I don't really care about what Flitters does at Mansfield, beyond them being in the same league as us, which applies to 22 other teams.

What interests me is STFC and how we might be going forward into 18/19, as well as historical perspectives.  

It seems that several expected us to be top 3, not because we're Swindon in Div 4.... therefore 2 grades of measure,  A.  Finish top 3; good.    B don't finish top 3; shit

I'm a bit more nuanced...  having 4 grades.
A. Finish top 3; good  
 B. Respectable season, some good, some bad, finish safely upper top half; OK
C. A long flirt with the drop, but ultimately stay up; pretty shit
D. Conference trap door; big shit


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:35:00
I don't really care about what Flitters does at Mansfield, beyond them being in the same league as us, which applies to 22 other teams.

What interests me is STFC and how we might be going forward into 18/19, as well as historical perspectives.  

It seems that several expected us to be top 3 because we're Swindon in Div 4.... therefore 2 grades of measure,  A.  Finish top 3; good.    B don't finish top 3; shit

I'm a bit more nuanced...  having 4 grades.
A. Finish top 3; good  
 B. Respectable season, some good, some bad, finish safely upper top half; OK
C. A long flirt with the drop, but ultimately stay up; pretty shit
D. Conference trap door; big shit

Ahhh, a lovely political response, swerving the evidence on the table with distraction (I'm being a pedant but it's true). A man after my own heart you are Reg (now i'm being honest). I can't remember who said it but someone once simply said;

'Are we all, so different?'

I don't think you can say most people think top 3 great; not top 3 shit. It's not as definitive as that. Could be more nuanced than yours (i'd probably find a way to have six grades), could be slightly less nuanced. I would err on 3 grades;

A) Top 3 - Pretty good/sort of expected
B) Top 10 - Good/nothing less/bit mehh (when the emotional dust has settled if outside P/O)
C) 11 Down - Crap/Really crap (especially if had been a relegation fight)

The football has been very poor at times though.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 15:53:13
Of all the games I saw as much as anything else I was disappointed in the way we played. Compared to last season where we overplayed time and again, this season was the total opposite. I struggle to remember (at home mainly) where we passed the ball around for any length of time which resulted in a shooting/goalscoring opportunity on a consistent basis. Can only be hopeful it might change for next season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: cheltred69 on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 16:02:22
I don't think anyone will say anything other than this has been a shit season, with degrees of opinion heavily influenced by prior expectations. I haven't found it as tedious as last season although the quality of league 2 football is generally awful.
I would expect we've had one of the bigger budgets in the league do the outcome can't go other than disappointing.

Looking forward to next season, if I'm correct those remaining in-contract are Charles-Cook, Lancashire, Conroy, Dunne, Anderson, Mullin, Woolery, Norris and Richards. That gives plenty of scope for rebuilding for whoever the manager is, though it retains some of those who many would like to see gone. I really can't see Vigs wanting to come back here and I'd expect he'll have other options. Likewise Preston would probably hope to get an offer at league 1 level. Other than Henry & Twine and possibly Knoyle there aren't any others I'd be keen to keep.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 16:28:51

It seems that several expected us to be top 3 because we're Swindon in Div 4

No it doesn't. There were several people who said they expected us to be top 3, all of them explicitly said it wasn't because we were Swindon in Div 4. It's bad enough when you do the "many think" shit without any evidence, but when you flatly ignore what people have actually said, come on?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 16:54:52
League position alone is no measure of someones subjective opinion.  Take the Premier League season - statistically our worst season ever, yet I enjoyed quite a bit of it.  Having watched all bar one of the league games this season, it has been a shit season to watch.  I won't remember any of it fondly.

Was there a real threat it could have been worse, of course there was.  It could have been the single worst season in our history, but it wasn't, but it was still shit.  If we had somehow sneaked into the play offs (as we probably should have done with the original squad assembled) it would still probably have been a shit season.  There have been very few games that were enjoyable, both in winning and in defeat.

I thought we had enough in the squad to sneak a top seven finish, certainly not top 3.  I maintain, despite my criticism of players, that when the relative quality we have faced is put into the equation, we still had enough for top 7.  We could very well finish 8th or 9th, so close to that.

On the subject of Brown and Flitcroft - the people saying we could do well under him are probably not just taking his time here, but his record at this level.  He wasn't the sort of person I'd want, but I have seen evidence of changes - the problem is the timing was all wrong.  Our defence was fucked by the time he arrived, so I'd like to see what he can do with a summer behind him.  With a "reasonable" budget and some replacements that fit the way he wants the team to set-up, there is a good chance he can create some marginal improvements on this term at least.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 16:58:06
No it doesn't. There were several people who said they expected us to be top 3, all of them explicitly said it wasn't because we were Swindon in Div 4. It's bad enough when you do the "many think" shit without any evidence, but when you flatly ignore what people have actually said, come on?

Altered for you. It makes no difference to the substantive point.



Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: ron dodgers on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 17:01:38

I did get a result yesterday, discovering the Cellar Door micro pub and £3 a pint 6% scrumpy....wonderful.


Nice IPA as well, I was sat at the bar in the corner!!!!


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 17:35:49
League position alone is no measure of someones subjective opinion.  Take the Premier League season - statistically our worst season ever, yet I enjoyed quite a bit of it. 

Prem season was our highest ever finish in the pyramid 22/92. We're presently 77/92. Might be why you enjoyed it


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 17:45:08
Prem season was our highest ever finish in the pyramid 22/92. We're presently 77/92. Might be why you enjoyed it

But by the tried and tested % of games won in a season algorithm it was our worst, was it not?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 20:23:09
Prem season was our highest ever finish in the pyramid 22/92. We're presently 77/92. Might be why you enjoyed it
Jesus Christ Reg, there's more to life than fucking statistics. Or maybe you're on a massive wind up in which case, well done - I fell for it, H, L and S... ::)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Sunday, April 15, 2018, 23:13:07
Look on the bright side - by staying down, we may get to play the yellow filth gain


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 16, 2018, 06:26:13
Look on the bright side - by staying down, we may get to play the yellow filth gain

Possible, but unlikely. On account of being at the bottom, the other clubs below them are unlikely to be picking up many points themselves and unlikely to overtake Oxford. Still quite precarious for the Pox, though.

It would be good, though. They appear to be somewhat of a trainwreck at the moment.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, April 16, 2018, 07:51:55
I think their win at the weekend pretty much confirmed theyíll be staying up


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 08:44:21
Jesus Christ Reg, there's more to life than fucking statistics. Or maybe you're on a massive wind up in which case, well done - I fell for it, H, L and S... ::)

It's quite simple really, Rob was saying that despite a season 93/94 which only contained 5 wins as opposed to this season's 19, he enjoyed it more.  I suggested it might have been to do with the club being on a historic high.

That season we were getting doubled by the likes of Man City and Chelsea.... this season Newport and Cheltnum, who incidentally were both playing in the Southern League and Gloucestershire back then.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Audrey's Bellend on Monday, April 16, 2018, 09:23:29
I like the way Brown says he wonít name individuals who lack character or the wherewithal to put their bodies on the line, and then comments on numbers 2,5,6 and 3..

Heíll be here next season, I have no doubt. Not many of the present squad will - or those that are contracted wonít see the first XI again.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 10:31:08
I like the way Brown says he wonít name individuals who lack character or the wherewithal to put their bodies on the line, and then comments on numbers 2,5,6 and 3..

Heíll be here next season, I have no doubt. Not many of the present squad will - or those that are contracted wonít see the first XI again.

I would say it's more likely that the players who are contracted will still be here, but the manager who isn't won't. Your scenario would require Power to spend... something he's never been keen to do.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 16, 2018, 10:42:58
I would say it's more likely that the players who are contracted will still be here, but the manager who isn't won't. Your scenario would require Power to spend... something he's never been keen to do.

Can you name a transfer window under Power where we haven't spent money?

Saturday was utter garbage. The football has, generally, been better under Power but the first half was one of the worst I've seen. The players just looked like they couldn't be arsed. 2nd half was better (but couldn't have been much worse). Mayo was a red card waiting to happen so no shock there although god knows how it took the ref about 5 minutes to actually decide it was a second yellow. McDermott (again) was a much better option wide when he came on and he, several times, ran about 20/30 yards to actually make a challenge.

Fans were shit, yet again, although under the circumstances I don't really blame them. However, sarcastically chanting for Moore when he made a save... I mean, it's a dick move anyway but when you're doing it 4 or 5 times it's not really ironic any more. Whoever got smashed by Hussey probably deserved it.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 16, 2018, 11:08:29
The football has, generally, been better under Power

Didn't have you down as one of them there CTs Tails :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 11:08:40
Can you name a transfer window under Power where we haven't spent money?

The last window.... we brought in 4, and shipped out 3. Of course, the question of spend is muddied by Vigs, as although he went to Waterford, it's likely we still pay his wage, so I suppose getting in Moore carried a cost.

You'd imagine that the other 3 in, Banks and Richards were mostly covered by shipping out Goddard and Brophy. Mayo is probably being covered by Wovers as we're doing them a favour.

Now, I don't particularly object to Power's tight purse policy, but it does lead me to think that is how he'll continue to operate.  

So if it's a question of appoint a manager, unable to work with existing staff, where there will be a cost to getting them out.... or appoint someone cheaper, able to work with existing staff, he'll take the latter course.





Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 16, 2018, 11:24:12
Did we not spend money on Anderson though?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 11:39:02
Did we not spend money on Anderson though?

As in a fee?  I don't know. I guess his wage post loan will have been grreater than on loan, so you're probably right.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:05:10
Pretty sure we must have paid a fee for Anderson. A few also suggesting they would bin Woolery but didn't we pay about £250k for him?


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:12:08
It was reported at the time that we'd paid an undisclosed fee for Anderson. So anything from 20p to £20m, take a wild guess and use it to back your favoured hypothesis :)


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:13:42
I'd bin them both. Anderson is the master of running into brick walls when he can be bothered. Woolery has pace and nothing else - has the scoring instinct of Shaun Close.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:30:44
I'd bin them both. Anderson is the master of running into brick walls when he can be bothered. Woolery has pace and nothing else - has the scoring instinct of Shaun Close.


The problem is that it isn't easy to find quality forward players, and sometimes it's just right man wrong time or something.

Take Kayden Jackson, he'd do very nicely for us atm.  However, not even notching a few for Supermarine could get him a game with us.  Think we got in George Barker instead, allegedly paying a fee. George is only a year older than Kayden, and banging them in for Worthing in the Isthmian League, well when I say banging, he's scored 1, since his deadline move from H and W.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:41:21
The problem is that it isn't easy to find quality forward players, and sometimes it's just right man wrong time or something.

Take Kayden Jackson, he'd do very nicely for us atm.  However, not even notching a few for Supermarine could get him a game with us.  Think we got in George Barker instead, allegedly paying a fee. George is only a year older than Kayden, and banging them in for Worthing in the Isthmian League, well when I say banging, he's scored 1, since his deadline move from H and W.
I appreciate we're a 4th division team and our pool is limited but I'd take Richards and Norris ahead of those two any day of the week. If we could get rid, I would. As it is they're signed up for next season and I can't see anyone coming in with offers. Saying that I never thought someone would take Connor Thomas off our hands.
If we could make better use of Wollery's pace then maybe but it probably means him playing on the shoulder of the last defender. Even then he's borrowed Pat Kanyuka's head and put it on his boots. Anderson is utter tripe and I can't see him coming good.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:49:56
The first thing that needs doing is securing Brown now let's not wait until seasons end, get him signed and he can then start deciding who he wants in the squad next season and arranging pre season.

It sounded like it maybe dependant on what wages & budget he is given by power, lets hope Power doesn't think that by leaving it late like last season he can save a few quid on wages.

I think Vigs will return as Brown likes to play it out from the back and that is Vigs fortay rather than just lump it forward, I'm sure there wont be a lot of interest in him so he maybe worthwhile hanging around and have a good season back in england.

As for others I think with a bit of coaching Woolery can become a decent wide player, not sure on Keshi he seems to lack a position that he looks like he can make his own.

Hopefully Tom Smith can make an impact next season as well and Will Henry can come back and really push for a place as well


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:52:39
Woolery the most disappointing for me due to the battle to get him and the build up.

Dunne has bee poor but improved under Brown by doing the dirty stuff and releasing it instead of trying to play football.

Most others have been mediocre with bright spots.

Taylor, Richards, Preston high spots...


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:58:34
Can you name a transfer window under Power where we haven't spent money?


Fans were shit, yet again, although under the circumstances I don't really blame them. However, sarcastically chanting for Moore when he made a save... I mean, it's a dick move anyway but when you're doing it 4 or 5 times it's not really ironic any more. Whoever got smashed by Hussey probably deserved it.
Don't understand what you are trying to say, why were the fans shit ?,  There were a few comments on some players commitment,  certainly can't say I heard any chanting  espcially regarding Moore,  must admit wouldn't argue with anyone regarding his positioning with the ball that was lobbed over him, what the fuck was he doing hallway up the field ?.  Don't know what was said to Hussey, but at the end of the day he's supposed to be a professional,  he had no right to do what he did and IMO if that's the way he reacts then I hope he fucks off.
Around 950 Swindon fans paid to see the game, and surely wether they stayed to the end or left early as many did, they are entitled to their opinion,  watching a shit non event game does not make us shit fans.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, April 16, 2018, 13:02:52
The first thing that needs doing is securing Brown now let's not wait until seasons end, get him signed and he can then start deciding who he wants in the squad next season and arranging pre
I think Vigs will return as Brown likes to play it out from the back and that is Vigs fortay rather than just lump it forward, I'm sure there wont be a lot of interest in him so he maybe worthwhile hanging around and have a good season back in england.

As for others I think with a bit of coaching Woolery can become a decent wide player, not sure on Keshi he seems to lack a position that he looks like he can make his own.

Hopefully Tom Smith can make an impact next season as well and Will Henry can come back and really push for a place as well
Excellent summary,  agree 100% with everything you said,  for me the return of Vigs is paramount.   Wasn't upset when he went,  thought we had more than capable back ups,  how wrong I was.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, April 16, 2018, 14:00:36
The first thing that needs doing is securing Brown now let's not wait until seasons end, get him signed and he can then start deciding who he wants in the squad next season and arranging pre season.

It sounded like it maybe dependant on what wages & budget he is given by power, lets hope Power doesn't think that by leaving it late like last season he can save a few quid on wages.

I think Vigs will return as Brown likes to play it out from the back and that is Vigs fortay rather than just lump it forward, I'm sure there wont be a lot of interest in him so he maybe worthwhile hanging around and have a good season back in england.

As for others I think with a bit of coaching Woolery can become a decent wide player, not sure on Keshi he seems to lack a position that he looks like he can make his own.

Hopefully Tom Smith can make an impact next season as well and Will Henry can come back and really push for a place as well

Not forgetting the return of Conroy too, I think he's been a huge miss all season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 15:00:12
I think Vigs will return as Brown likes to play it out from the back and that is Vigs fortay rather than just lump it forward, I'm sure there wont be a lot of interest in him so he maybe worthwhile hanging around and have a good season back in england.

I wince reading this.... the last thing we want to be doing in Div 4 is have Vigs fannying aroiund at the back.  Basically Vigs isn't terribly good, he is in his own mind though.

When you're a keeper in a side with a shit defence, you can look good, because plenty of saves to make..... most keepers can do that bit, it's the technical stuff that most struggle with.  Positioning at set plays... organising defenders at set plays. Positioning when out of possession in final third... concentration and keeping discipline and distribution etc

Of course, you can work at improving that side. That nobody wanted Vigs, tells you all you need to know, about how he is perceived. 

I thought when R C-C came in after the Luton debacle we looked a bit more comfortable at the back.. but once R C-C's vunerability under the high ball was exposed, that quickly drained



Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, April 16, 2018, 15:27:10
I wince reading this.... the last thing we want to be doing in Div 4 is have Vigs fannying aroiund at the back.  Basically Vigs isn't terribly good, he is in his own mind though.

When you're a keeper in a side with a shit defence, you can look good, because plenty of saves to make..... most keepers can do that bit, it's the technical stuff that most struggle with.  Positioning at set plays... organising defenders at set plays. Positioning when out of possession in final third... concentration and keeping

I thought when R C-C came in after the Luton debacle we looked a bit more comfortable at the back.. but once R C-C's vunerability under the high ball was exposed, that quickly drained









Surely that's what keeper's are for,  they are the last line of defence,  Admitted nobody came in for Vigs, but he's still better than most keepers in this division.   RCC & Moore have both been given chances and both shown they are not good enough.
Agree with you on many things Reg, but sorry,  think you're wrong on this one.




Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 15:56:25

Surely that's what keeper's are for,  they are the last line of defence,  Admitted nobody came in for Vigs, but he's still better than most keepers in this division.   RCC & Moore have both been given chances and both shown they are not good enough.
Agree with you on many things Reg, but sorry,  think you're wrong on this one.


There's litttle difference in the win rate of Vigs and R C-C this season...

Vigs 7 wins in 14   R C-C 11 wins in 21

R C-C won't make it as a keeper unless he can sort out the high ball weakness.... Vigs the technical and professionalism side of it.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, April 16, 2018, 16:29:36
If LV's agent is anywhere near as adept as Branco's was, then he may yet get the backup gig at Everton....

In the Primera Division de Chile.

Can't see him surviving, or even wanting to survive, the upcoming cull in the summer.

Working on the confidence of RCC might be the better option for next season.


Title: Re: Newport County v Swindon Town official match day thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 16, 2018, 17:43:20
If LV's agent is anywhere near as adept as Branco's was, then he may yet get the backup gig at Everton....

In the Primera Division de Chile.

Can't see him surviving, or even wanting to survive, the upcoming cull in the summer.

Working on the confidence of RCC might be the better option for next season.

Maybe having Waterford on his CV, is an effort to get a gig at O'Higgins.