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Title: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:32:50
Following on from the posts about great town free kicks, this popped up on my YouTube recommendations. He was at Palace by the time of this goal, but still good to see.  8)

http://youtu.be/rJw4m_rZ8fA


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Amir on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:40:59
Absolute pandemonium.

https://youtu.be/nfNoELP39Bc


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Amir on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:53:48
From 5.20

https://youtu.be/9YvUXFEsy_A


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:58:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOPr9uoZPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIxeOOINXk

We could probably do a part III since these videos were published!


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 11:48:31
Paul Evans 40 yarder free kick


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 11:49:54
Define a great goal...

Was That Danny Invinicible goal a great goal because it kept us up?!


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 11:57:40
Define a great goal...

Was That Danny Invinicible goal a great goal because it kept us up?!

When, like Taylor's last night, a goal doesn't get you any points, then I think it detracts a bit from its value...

The Fallon goal, got us a point v a despised rival, which adds to its provenance.

Further I like it when a goal is framed by Town fans going ape, a terrace is good, Fallon's goal has that quality.  This season, Keshi's late winner at Yeovil was decent.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 12:08:12
Define a great goal...

Was That Danny Invinicible goal a great goal because it kept us up?!

I'm thought we were defining great as the individual/team skill in scoring the goal?

Loads of defining goals have been brilliant and important, but not great in that definition (Invincible, RDV @ Northampton, etc).


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 12:48:20
When, like Taylor's last night, a goal doesn't get you any points, then I think it detracts a bit from its value...
Yep, agree. Although you can still admire the skill/artistry


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 15:18:53
That Simon Cox goal v Walsall. Took it on the half volley after teeing himself up from about 25yrds.

https://youtu.be/Qy0YuNuPrhw (https://youtu.be/Qy0YuNuPrhw)

Thing is, and i'm sure many of you remember, he's scored an identical if not better goal in pre season v Fenerbache;

https://youtu.be/GXlINN4UHTs (https://youtu.be/GXlINN4UHTs)

In the words of Alan Partridge. Footballllllllll! Gooooooaaaalllll! Back of the net, indeed!


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 15:18:58
Hoddle's first for town...

http://youtu.be/NQaGYj9nAP4



Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 04:11:24
Hoddle's first for town...

http://youtu.be/NQaGYj9nAP4



my first town game


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 18:32:04
Not seen the Don Rogers clip before.
Masterful explanation from Jimmy Hill about the order of the goals.
Something which the current MOTD team would be entirely incapable of.
ESL student Shearer would struggle without being able to mention a "he's entitled to go down there".

The STFC greatest goals vols 1 & 2 are essential viewing when all things STFC related are not going too well.
Preferably in work time and with the sound turned up.
My two favourites are the Hoddle goal at Wembley and the keepy uppy one at Watford
Also numerous reminders of how good the 03-04 team was, and under a much maligned manager as well.

Couldn't find footage of the Kerrouche free kick against Southampton.
Just something about the casual way he sauntered up and smacked it into the net.
Class.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 18:39:34
Kenny Stroud vs Everton in 1977 from easily 35 to 40 yards put.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsauHgNCz_g

Marlon Broomes vs Birmingham in 1997 was also a cracker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDKfR6UwHI

53 seconds in, probably better than Strouds goal IMO, not bad for a centre back that only scored 5 league goals in his career of 250 games.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 18:51:13
Itís a bit sobering to realise how many of those goals I actually saw live. Still reckon that Matt Taylor goal was the best free kick goal - and he likes a celebration donít he!


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 18:55:22
Itís a bit sobering to realise how many of those goals I actually saw live. Still reckon that Matt Taylor goal was the best free kick goal - and he likes a celebration donít he!
I agree about Matts free kick, never seen one hit with so much power and accuracy, yes we have had some cracking free kick goals over the years but that was perfect. The keeper saw it all the way and still couldnt get near it.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 18:59:24
 Craig Taylor scored a screamer on debut v Saturday's opponents.  3:42 in for those not inclined to revisit a time when we actually looked half decent for a few weeks...

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19980110

These occasional long rangers from distance by a centre half are all well and good, but relatively recently I've come to appreciate, the proper goalscorers art, the sort of thing that looks really easy, but clearly isn't, as Luke shows on a regular basis.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 21:12:07
Taylors goal was class and up there with Guernsey's Roberto Carlos effort at Leeds.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 22:15:39
Craig Taylor scored a screamer on debut v Saturday's opponents.  3:42 in for those not inclined to revisit a time when we actually looked half decent for a few weeks...

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19980110

These occasional long rangers from distance by a centre half are all well and good, but relatively recently I've come to appreciate, the proper goalscorers art, the sort of thing that looks really easy, but clearly isn't, as Luke shows on a regular basis.

I think the true test of ability is one on one's.  You have a special bread of players that have a strikers instinct, but I think being consistent at putting it past a keeper in a straight through one on one shows whether or not a player has the combination of a skill set and mental fortitude.  You'll get players who rely on instinct and suffer in a one on one and you also get those that over think it and suffer.

Yes Long Range ones look amazing, but even with a half decent skill set you will get the odd one struck just right.

Great team moves are good as well.  There is a move in the Sunderland 1990 Play Off final with something like 20 odd passes.  In commentary Malone just reverts to calling out the last name of each players as it moves along - I think Foley misses in the end.  Such a shame I;ve always thought, especially as McLoughlin's goal goes in off Bennett's bum.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: sir windon on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 22:26:16
Craig Maskell impressed me with his coolness at one on ones when he turned up. I think one of his early goals at Molineux was a pleasant surprise in the ease of it's execution. I'd not seen a striker as convincing in that scenario until then.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: bamboonoshoe on Thursday, February 15, 2018, 22:32:11
I think the true test of ability is one on one's.  You have a special bread of players that have a strikers instinct, but I think being consistent at putting it past a keeper in a straight through one on one shows whether or not a player has the combination of a skill set and mental fortitude.  You'll get players who rely on instinct and suffer in a one on one and you also get those that over think it and suffer.

Yes Long Range ones look amazing, but even with a half decent skill set you will get the odd one struck just right.

Great team moves are good as well.  There is a move in the Sunderland 1990 Play Off final with something like 20 odd passes.  In commentary Malone just reverts to calling out the last name of each players as it moves along - I think Foley misses in the end.  Such a shame I;ve always thought, especially as McLoughlin's goal goes in off Bennett's bum.

While I agree, are we not getting into the world of "Great goalscorers" as opposed to "Scorers of great goals"? Yes i'm aware some players are fortunate to do both. Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Bergkamp, Cantona etc come to mind. The England Euro 96 team goal v Holland was a class example of a great team goal. Owen's goal v Argentina was also a stunning individual effort, probably not the goal itself but everything he did to get the chance to was sublime. Gazza in 96 against the Scots was another and obviously Hurst's (Wolstenholme moment) v Germany is another.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 16, 2018, 00:35:08
I think the true test of ability is one on one's.  You have a special bread of players that have a strikers instinct, but I think being consistent at putting it past a keeper in a straight through one on one shows whether or not a player has the combination of a skill set and mental fortitude.  You'll get players who rely on instinct and suffer in a one on one and you also get those that over think it and suffer.

Yes Long Range ones look amazing, but even with a half decent skill set you will get the odd one struck just right.

Great team moves are good as well.  There is a move in the Sunderland 1990 Play Off final with something like 20 odd passes.  In commentary Malone just reverts to calling out the last name of each players as it moves along - I think Foley misses in the end.  Such a shame I;ve always thought, especially as McLoughlin's goal goes in off Bennett's bum.

I like your thinking on this...

I'll offer.....The Don, for Palace v Manu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3QRi_oQ9mU

and Charlie Austin v Soton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRH9spWOA4


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: RobertT on Friday, February 16, 2018, 01:30:04
I'm not sure Austin was a consistent one on one guy as opposed to just having the goalscorers instinct.  Don is a great example, consistently doing the same thing and nearly always coming out on top.  Flip it the other way, it is why Schmeichel was always so good.

You just have players who never look like missing one on one and others who you have no confidence in.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, February 16, 2018, 06:55:52

Great team moves are good as well.  There is a move in the Sunderland 1990 Play Off final with something like 20 odd passes.  In commentary Malone just reverts to calling out the last name of each players as it moves along - I think Foley misses in the end.  Such a shame I;ve always thought, especially as McLoughlin's goal goes in off Bennett's bum.
We should have won that game 5-0 - not that it would have counted for anything obviously - the best 90 minutes of football I've ever seen from a Town side.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, February 16, 2018, 14:41:16
Did anyone actually end up posting the Evans and Gurney free-kicks. For the record:

@0:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5VyVWCBoAY

@5:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLRG8t0Sux0

I think Taylor beats Gurney's. Neck and neck with Evans - not so far out, but beat the keeper without any element of surprise.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 16, 2018, 15:00:08
 I don't think anyone has mentioned the Igoe free kick v Bradford City to win a game 1-0 with 10 men into the TE. Quality stuff SSP had got a red, after handbags with the keeper, and someone form the TE jumped out to have a word about it.

 http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20050110


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Tails on Friday, February 16, 2018, 15:01:43
That was a great strike.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, February 16, 2018, 15:05:00
I don't think anyone has mentioned the Igoe free kick v Bradford City to win a game 1-0 with 10 men into the TE. Quality stuff SSP had got a red, after handbags with the keeper, and someone form the TE jumped out to have a word about it.

 http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20050110

Had forgotten that - a great contender. Similar style to the Taylor effort.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, February 16, 2018, 16:32:41
Duncan Shearer's goal away at Watford, about 20 mins in.

It was so good I bought the full match video from Watford :) which is uploaded here

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19890107


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 16, 2018, 17:32:40
Duncan Shearer's goal away at Watford, about 20 mins in.

It was so good I bought the full match video from Watford :) which is uploaded here

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=19890107

I had forgot that goal, good call, that was my first ever trip to Watford.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: adje on Saturday, February 17, 2018, 14:40:24
Marlon Broomes' debut effort and i remember john trollope scoring a beauty against Watford(i think)


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, February 18, 2018, 10:09:24
When it comes to heading a ball, we've had a few players with 50p shaped heads.
But there have been some memorable headers.

Greer v Norwich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ6QmP5Zeto

Fjortoft v Norwich (12mins in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq6k5ANzStY

Shaun Taylor. The Maskell one was pretty good as well.  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgCKc7MCDDo

Seem to remember Duncan Shearer twisting and arching the neck for a great one against Portsmouth in the FA cup, 1989.


Title: Re: Great goals town players past and present
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, February 18, 2018, 11:09:02
Royce Brownlie vs Barnet

https://youtu.be/KNSPxBovD8M?t=58